Thrush

[Guest guest]

I was just diagnosed with oral thrush and I had absolutely no clue for a few

weeks. It wasnt until I was diagnose with OralThrush that my PCP decided it

was systemic cause of other symptoms I was having. Anyhow, the thrush really

started as a sore throat that lasted three days. That went away and about a

week later the edge all around the front of my tongue felt really strange.

Almost like an itchiness inside the tongue which ended up going way back into

my throat. Then I noticed my tongue had teeth imprints which means it was

swollen. My sore throat came back three days later ( I think it had to do

with staying at my moms which has visible mold cause of a leaking ceiling).

Then came the mini mouth ulcers and a really red throat with some ulcers,

which at this time didn't feel like a sore throat. My gums started to bleed.

My teeth started to feel sore. I did NOT have the classic white patches AT

ALL.

Here I am after diflucan which did not work cause everything is still the

same! UGH!

a

[Guest guest]

I have Candida but not surprisingly enough I also gave birth to

children with oral thrush. It took forever to get rid of (6 months

in a newborn is forever)

We found we kept reinfecting the babies. We actually found you have

to do more than one treatment to finally be rid of it. Went through

bottles of prescription nystatin before realizing that it make more

sense anytime he ate to rinse out the mouth with the first teaspoon

and swallow the second.... So I used a Q-tip and would go over every

inch of mouth with the swab and then squirt a bit in the mouth

(AFTER eating ) so that the killing goes on in the mouth. Don't

drink anything after taking the medication.

Further - we obviously had to handle the other end (rash)With

Nystatin cream too.

I've come to realize that I've had candida for a long time (probably

years) and just now have figured out the cause of various other

ailments are really symptoms of candida. Now that I'm off anti-

inflammatories and eating a virutally yeast free diet (and sugar

I'm feeling much better in just weeks). I also take

acidolphillus and natural plain yoghurt (yeach!!!).

Good luck

> I was just diagnosed with oral thrush and I had absolutely no clue

for a few

> weeks. It wasnt until I was diagnose with OralThrush that my PCP

decided it

> was systemic cause of other symptoms I was having. Anyhow, the

thrush really

> started as a sore throat that lasted three days. That went away

and about a

> week later the edge all around the front of my tongue felt really

strange.

> Almost like an itchiness inside the tongue which ended up going

way back into

> my throat. Then I noticed my tongue had teeth imprints which means

it was

> swollen. My sore throat came back three days later ( I think it

had to do

> with staying at my moms which has visible mold cause of a leaking

ceiling).

> Then came the mini mouth ulcers and a really red throat with some

ulcers,

> which at this time didn't feel like a sore throat. My gums started

to bleed.

> My teeth started to feel sore. I did NOT have the classic white

patches AT

> ALL.

>

> Here I am after diflucan which did not work cause everything is

still the

> same! UGH!

>

> a

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I think that when I got diagnosed with this, they changed my middle name to

Thrush! I take 25mg of MTX, Plaquenil, Prednisone and Celebrex...Everytime I

get Thursh cleared up, something happens and its back. I also get tremendous

mouth sores. Some come and go - I also have Sjorgrens and Biotene mouth care

products are great. Thrush is no fun! Call the Dr. and get a RX for Nystatin

and follow Dr instructions. The last time I got Thrush, I let it go and it

went up the eustacian tube in one of my ears, totally goofed up my

equilibrium. Don't wait.

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Carol. Does it seem to be worse the day you take the MTX and

maybe the day after? Drs. office still hasn't called back and I seem

to be a little better today.

> Hi,

> I think that when I got diagnosed with this, they changed my middle

name to

> Thrush! I take 25mg of MTX, Plaquenil, Prednisone and

Celebrex...Everytime I

> get Thursh cleared up, something happens and its back. I also get

tremendous

> mouth sores. Some come and go - I also have Sjorgrens and Biotene

mouth care

> products are great. Thrush is no fun! Call the Dr. and get a RX for

Nystatin

> and follow Dr instructions. The last time I got Thrush, I let it

go and it

> went up the eustacian tube in one of my ears, totally goofed up my

> equilibrium. Don't wait.

> Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

> Carol M.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, now that you mention it. The mouth sores and sores under the skin on my

lips are worse the 2 days after the MTX injection. At first, I gained a lot

of weight due to the Prednisone, but now with these handy dandy mouth things,

I am back where I started. Guess you have to take the good with the bad?

The Rheumy cautioned me not to use harsh tooth paste and mouth washes,

because that only irritates it and makes it worse. I tried it, He was

right!. It seems to help me to keep an overly hydrated as possible. I

contstantly drink water. Somehow it seems to neutralize it. If you find out

anything else, please let me know.

Gentle Hugs & prayers,

Carol

[Guest guest]

I got thrush after taking a few days course of an antibiotic. I used a

prescription nystatin mouth rinse which I kept in my mouth for a minute or

two and then swallowed. I did this for about ten days & it cleared up. A

few months before that I had tried the antibiotic protocol for PA & wound up

with a terrible case of a fungal infection on the trunk area of my body. It

took three weeks of Diflucan to clear that one up. Peggy B.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

I tried gentian violet on myself and on my baby for about three

weeks and it didn't work for us. Also tried other home remedies

(vinegar, lemon juice, etc.)and they didn't work. After 6 weeks of

cracked nipples and thrush in my baby's mouth and natural treatments

not having any effects, we finally went with Diflucan for the two of

us for three weeks straight and that cleared it out for the two of

us and we did not get it again. There is an issue of problems with

the liver in immune compromised people, so be sure your liver is in

good health before using any prescribed antifungal. Now I need to

tell you, I did not know about grapefruit seed extract and oil of

oregano when I went through this, but I have used these (in

capsules, alternating them for a couple of weeks only) for my

autistic's son's thrush around his mouth plus 100 billion organisms

of probiotics a day, and that has worked for him in the last four

months. There are also other natural antifungals to try like

caprylic acid, candex, aqua flora, biotin which others have used and

have had success using. I think the key is once you start

antifungals, be sure to use probiotics to help keep the yeast at

bay. Hope this helps and take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

P.S. Since thrush is a yeast problem, I don't think antibiotics will

work on it. I had tried antifungal creams and antibiotics on myself

and my autistic son's thrush and neither helped and even seemed to

aggravate the site even more.

> Folks,

> What is your best way of treating Thrush homeopathically. Of

course the doc wants to prescribe

> antibiotics!!!!

> Thanks so much for all your help,

> Jill

[Guest guest]

go here...

http://www.drjaygordon.com/bf/thrush.htm

jmg wrote:

> Folks,

> What is your best way of treating Thrush homeopathically. Of course the doc

wants to prescribe

> antibiotics!!!!

> Thanks so much for all your help,

> Jill

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks SO much for helping me out.

Very much appreciated.

Jill G.

The La Rue Family wrote:

> go here...

>

> http://www.drjaygordon.com/bf/thrush.htm

>

>

[Guest guest]

Candida seems to be very tenacious and doesn't go away very rapidly. I

didn't start to notice any definite improvements until 3 months into the

diet, and then it was very gradual from there on out.

Now after 6 months, many of my symptoms are gone but the ones that are

left are still troublesome.

Hang in there!

Zack

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, bernicegent wrote:

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>

> I have been on the Candida diet for a month, have not cheated at

> all, have been taking caprylic acid 1500 mg a day and acidopholis

> (18 billion)...and still I have thrush. why? I am getting very

> despondent.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been on the Candida diet for a month, have not cheated at

> all, have been taking caprylic acid 1500 mg a day and acidopholis

> (18 billion)...and still I have thrush. why? I am getting very

> despondent.

Bernice, you might consider changing to another antifungal than

caprylic acid. Caprylic acid isn't for everyone and some people

don't do well on it. I prefer raw certified organic garlic to any

other antifungal - be sure to crush it to release it goodies and have

at least 3 cloves a day, or make garlic tea (recipe is in my article

in the files to the left). Also coconut oil is a must for all

candida sufferers. Along with many other benefits it is also

antifungal and aids digestion of all other foods.

Oregano oil is also very good and some people get good results with

grapefruit seed extract. I also use clove oil and pau d'arco extract

or pau d'arco tea. I take 4 drops of clove oil twice a day in warm

to hot water with 1 tablespoon of liquid chlorophyll mixed in.

If you are taking " acidophillus " it is usually made from milk. You

might try cabbage rejuvelac instead, or switch to cal-dophililus or

another form that is not made from milk.

Let us know what you decide to try and how it goes for you.

Warm regards,

Bee

[Guest guest]

start with probiotics and eliminating sugars/ yeasts from her diet.

good luck!

Jami in Naperville, IL

thrush

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> It is highly likely that my breastfeeding daughter and her 2 month

> old son

> have thrush by reading descriptions of it. She doesn't like the

> sounds of

> any of the allopathic treatments, so don't want to go to the doctors

> if we can use a homeopathic remedy. I can't find anything in

> Castro's book

> that matches her symptoms or for his

> bottom.

>

> Both of her breasts itch and sometimes burn. The babies bottom is

> 1/2 irritated and red. Does anyone have any ideas on how to treat

> this?

>

> Thanks, from Missouri

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[Guest guest]

Has she cut out sugar and dairy.

May need more than an acute remedy

I leave in the AM so I cannot help.

Better to talk to a homeopath by phone than an MD

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com

click on find a homeopath

and in Wisconsin does phone consults along wiht a woman in

India who is very good

Dr. Leela - Kay and others know her on the list.

At 07:36 PM 01/21/2005 -0000, you wrote:

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>I have looked through Castro's book again and the only remedy I have

>found for my breastfeeding daughter who has thrush is sulphur. It is

>the only one that has both burning and itching under breastfeeding

>problems. It isn't listed under thrush as such. The thrush listed

>is all for oral or vaginal.

>

>Her 2 month old son has it on his bottom

>and not his mouth. Dana Ullmam's book has belladonna listed if the

>skin is bright red and swollen with inflammation but is not raw or

>oozing. Castro's book doesn't bring it up for skin conditions. I

>also got some calendula cream for his bottom.

>

>Am I on the right track with these remedies? They are the only thing

>I can come up with. If they don't work, I guess we are off to the

>doctors - ugh!

>

>Thanks, from Missouri

>

>Will pass on the info on changing her diet.

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[Guest guest]

Hmm...

My son had a terrible case of thrush in his mouth when he was small. My

midwives suggested spraying my breasts with vinegar, allowing it to air

dry, and then rubbing on olive oil. They also had me use both in his

mouth (non-toxic!). It worked wonders. The vinegar discourages

fermentation, and the olive oil smothers the yeast cells to death. Worth

a try, anyway! If she's still nursing, I would imagine breastmilk would

probably help too...if you go to the doctor, they'll be likely to

prescribe Nystatin- ick!

Breezy

[Guest guest]

If you're working from Castro, I believe she also has Borax as being

effective for thrush. Strongly associated with a baby who cannot stand

downward motion, doesn't like being put down. Haven't got any books handy

but you could compare symptoms?

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" As well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on the

worth of vaccination. " - Bernard Shaw

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> I have looked through Castro's book again and the only remedy I have

> found for my breastfeeding daughter who has thrush is sulphur. It is

> the only one that has both burning and itching under breastfeeding

> problems. It isn't listed under thrush as such. The thrush listed

> is all for oral or vaginal.

>

> Her 2 month old son has it on his bottom

> and not his mouth. Dana Ullmam's book has belladonna listed if the

> skin is bright red and swollen with inflammation but is not raw or

> oozing. Castro's book doesn't bring it up for skin conditions. I

> also got some calendula cream for his bottom.

>

> Am I on the right track with these remedies? They are the only thing

> I can come up with. If they don't work, I guess we are off to the

> doctors - ugh!

>

> Thanks, from Missouri

>

> Will pass on the info on changing her diet.

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[Guest guest]

Breezy,

Thank you and the others for your reply on my daughter's thrush. We thought

it went away. Last weekend she battled a clogged duct and I think she

worked that out. Now the thrush is back and she is more uncomfortable with

the burning and itching this time. The baby had a bad diaper rash a couple

of weeks ago with it, but no symptoms now.

Breezy, how long did you have to threat yourself before it disappeared?

Also just how did you apply the vinegar (is that straight?) and the olive

oil to your son's mouth? I guess we have to treat 's mouth even

though he has no symptoms.

I have given her sulphur for 2 days, but so far so relief. It was the only

remedy I found for both burning and itching. Trying to keep from going to

the doctors.

from Missouri

Re: thrush

Hmm...

My son had a terrible case of thrush in his mouth when he was small. My

midwives suggested spraying my breasts with vinegar, allowing it to air

dry, and then rubbing on olive oil. They also had me use both in his

mouth (non-toxic!). It worked wonders. The vinegar discourages

fermentation, and the olive oil smothers the yeast cells to death. Worth

a try, anyway! If she's still nursing, I would imagine breastmilk would

probably help too...if you go to the doctor, they'll be likely to

prescribe Nystatin- ick!

Breezy

[Guest guest]

HI Mike

my daughter had a really bad time with Candida which

causes thrush, until she had a heller myotomy.

--- Mike <kc2huv@...> wrote:

> Just a quick question.....

>

> Anybody else develop Thrush as a result of their A?

>

> Mike (Jane, stop this crazy thing......)

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,

I also developed Thrush once about a year before I was

diagnosed with Achalasia.

Thanks

--- Mike <kc2huv@...> wrote:

> Just a quick question.....

>

> Anybody else develop Thrush as a result of their A?

>

> Mike (Jane, stop this crazy thing......)

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone investigated serrapeptase from silkworms. One of my docs suggested I

do a little research on it and it looks pretty good. I haven't been in this

group long enough to know if you all have discussed it. Cheers (clink of glass)

Edy

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Encyclodea page about cinnamon:

Preliminary results from test tube and animal studies suggest that cinnamon oil

and cinnamon extract have antifungal, antibacterial, and antiparasitic

properties. 4–10 For example, cinnamon has been found to be active against

Candida albicans, the fungus responsible for *****vaginal yeast infections and

thrush (oral yeast infection),***** Helicobacter pylori (the bacteria that

causes stomach ulcers), and even head lice. However, it's a long way from

studies of this type to actual proof of effectiveness. Until cinnamon is tested

in double-blind human trials, we can't conclude that it can successfully treat

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thrush

Can you have thrush just on the tongue? If you have no spots in the

mouth or throat(like usual), just a sore throat and a white coated

tongue that feels " sticky " would you think that is thrush, or just

wait a few days?

Valarie

[Guest guest]

Part of getting a coated tongue can often be die off and healing

symptoms. When I was on my way to healing my tongue would get

coated. Hope that gives you a bit of encouragement. it is not

always thrush. If I get a coated tongue at some stage when I start

the diet, that makes me happier because I know toxins are being

loosened and are coming out.

Adam.

>

> Is it possible to have a thick coated tongue without

> any other symptoms? My tongue gets a thick coating to

> it at times with eating foods. Even good foods like

> broccoli. It does not hurt and does not get red it

> you try to scrape the white off. Maybe i always had a

> coating to my tongue n never knew it. Isee people

> with pinky pink tongues and wish it were me. My

> tongue has been white for that iknow of 2 years.

>

> Is it possible that it is not thrush?

>

> sue

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[Guest guest]

I would like to second this point. My tongue is not normally that

coated and I don't have thrush, but when I am taking lots of

antifungals or probiotics I wake up with tons of white film.

Also the master cleanse uses tongue coating as a gauge too. Obviosuly

the master cleanse is horrible for candida(I did it for 20 days, I

should probably be dead and that's how I felt). But for people

without candida, what happens is your tongue starts to get really

coated throughout the cleanse because of toxin release and after about

10 it should be pretty clear. This has worked for other people I know

who have ahd success with the cleanse.

greg

>

> Part of getting a coated tongue can often be die off and healing

> symptoms. When I was on my way to healing my tongue would get

> coated. Hope that gives you a bit of encouragement. it is not

> always thrush. If I get a coated tongue at some stage when I start

> the diet, that makes me happier because I know toxins are being

> loosened and are coming out.

>

> Adam.

>

>

>

> >

> > Is it possible to have a thick coated tongue without

> > any other symptoms? My tongue gets a thick coating to

> > it at times with eating foods. Even good foods like

> > broccoli. It does not hurt and does not get red it

> > you try to scrape the white off. Maybe i always had a

> > coating to my tongue n never knew it. Isee people

> > with pinky pink tongues and wish it were me. My

> > tongue has been white for that iknow of 2 years.

> >

> > Is it possible that it is not thrush?

> >

> > sue

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Greg, what is in this master cleanse and where do you get it? Steph

[Guest guest]

Hi

I was told by a dr who is yeasty literate that it can

be spread through sex. So I wonder about through

saliva...

dont know but families do tend to share it so

possibly..

sue

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