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Hi Donna,

I understand how frustrating this can be. About seven years ago, I had a very

bad exposure and developed rheumatoid like symptoms that were extremely painful

in my upper arms and hands. My joints were very swollen. I saw numerous

specialist including rheumatologists, internists, infectious disease

specialists, and OCCMED docs. Several doctors did say that they thought I had

Lupus. I tested negative for everything, except I had a very high sedimentation

rate. Also, I have Hashimoto, and my thyroid peroxidase levels were extremely

high, although the T3 and T4 did not change (I do take synthroid).

Interesting, I went on a vacation to the Caribbean and had my symptoms worsen

when I went into the ocean (but not swimming pool). In retrospect, I think

there were likely biotoxins in the ocean that exacerbated the inflammation. The

rheumatoid type symptoms remained for about 2 years. Sometimes my hands were so

swollen that I could not hold my brand new grandson (that was the worst part).

No doctors could figure out what was going on, but they all agreed that I had

some type of inflammation. The OCCMED doc agreed that my reactions were likely

from exposures to contaminants in water damaged buildings. I ultimately got

better by staying out of water damaged buildings for a while (I am a

consultant). I have been much more diligent with PPE also. In reading Dr.

Thrasher's publications, I see now that thermoactinomytes, toxins, and other

contaminants in water damaged buildings were the likely cause. Reading some of

Dr. Thrasher's posts and publications might be helpful to you.

BTW, I have not had any rheumatoid type symptoms for five years. However, I

have developed chronic sinusitis and other allergenic type reactions. I do not

take medications for allergies unless I get a severe reaction. However, I do

take a supplement, Intramax, that has glutathione and other toxin binders.

Good Luck.

Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

Sanit-Air, Inc.

cleanlinest.wordpress.com

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> My daughter and I were exposed to high levels of mold (we had air tested) in

early summer. Subsequently, we both had severe reactions--my daughter has had

ongoing sinus infections and asthma and I developed lupus like symptoms. We

were both tested and found to have positive ANA speckled pattern titers.

Although we continue to have all the previous symptoms (antibiotics seem to be

helpng my daughter some), a recent ANA test showed us both as negative. Her ENT

doc disregards any suggestion of mold as the cause and my rheumatologist still

believes it is lupus and also feels mold is not a contributing factor.

>

> Can you lend any insights into this situation.

> Thanks!

> Donna

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Go to biotoxin info, you have mold illness. You must remove from exposure. Mold

triggers auto-immune issues, Go to Low Dose Naltrexone.com, this therapy can

reverse auto-immunity, it cured my RA

--- In , " donna.ruppert@... " <donna.ruppert@...>

wrote:

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> My daughter and I were exposed to high levels of mold (we had air tested) in

early summer. Subsequently, we both had severe reactions--my daughter has had

ongoing sinus infections and asthma and I developed lupus like symptoms. We

were both tested and found to have positive ANA speckled pattern titers.

Although we continue to have all the previous symptoms (antibiotics seem to be

helpng my daughter some), a recent ANA test showed us both as negative. Her ENT

doc disregards any suggestion of mold as the cause and my rheumatologist still

believes it is lupus and also feels mold is not a contributing factor.

>

> Can you lend any insights into this situation.

> Thanks!

> Donna

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I am going to put a packet together for my MD to educate him on mold and MCS.

He has been more open lately the more I have talked to him and told him about

diagnoses I have received from other health professionals. Someone else has had

success getting his doctor to listen more and wanting to help by bringing in

more and more material for him to get educated on mold.

Are you doing any detoxing? Antifungals like raw garlic or olive leaf extract?

[] WDB and positive ANA

My daughter and I were exposed to high levels of mold (we had air tested) in

early summer. Subsequently, we both had severe reactions--my daughter has had

ongoing sinus infections and asthma and I developed lupus like symptoms. We

were both tested and found to have positive ANA speckled pattern titers.

Although we continue to have all the previous symptoms (antibiotics seem to be

helpng my daughter some), a recent ANA test showed us both as negative. Her ENT

doc disregards any suggestion of mold as the cause and my rheumatologist still

believes it is lupus and also feels mold is not a contributing factor.

Can you lend any insights into this situation.

Thanks!

Donna

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> Go to biotoxin info, you have mold illness. You must remove from exposure.

Mold triggers auto-immune issues, Go to Low Dose Naltrexone.com, this therapy

can reverse auto-immunity, it cured my RA

>

I had an exposure once to black rubber and once to new carpet....before i

realized how bad these things could be. Both times about two days later I hurt

in every joint and could barely get out of bed. My joints swelled and atayed

that way. I went to a rheumatologist and I asked about the LDN and he said I

didn't have RA and gave me pain meds which cause ringing in my ears to worsen.

None of my doctors believe the exposures cause the swelling. My knees never

recovered and it's been almost two years. ANy advice on how to get the LDN from

a doctor?

Meredith

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sorry, I am lucky to have a good dr

> >

> > Go to biotoxin info, you have mold illness. You must remove from exposure.

Mold triggers auto-immune issues, Go to Low Dose Naltrexone.com, this therapy

can reverse auto-immunity, it cured my RA

> >

>

>

> I had an exposure once to black rubber and once to new carpet....before i

realized how bad these things could be. Both times about two days later I hurt

in every joint and could barely get out of bed. My joints swelled and atayed

that way. I went to a rheumatologist and I asked about the LDN and he said I

didn't have RA and gave me pain meds which cause ringing in my ears to worsen.

> None of my doctors believe the exposures cause the swelling. My knees never

recovered and it's been almost two years. ANy advice on how to get the LDN from

a doctor?

> Meredith

>

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