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My first question made no sense..! Sorry. I'll try again

If someone needed high dose antibiotics long term for some reason, for example

Lyme patient, and also had systemic fungal infection, would the antibiotics

cause a problem w the fungal infection? Does anyone know?

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> If someone needed high dose antibotics long term, like for example Lyme

patient need, would it be a problem if they also had a it is difficult to treat

someone w two illnesses? Thanks

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Most likely. Also, antibiotics are immune suppressing chemicals. Antibiotics

are products of mold and actinomycetes, they are not purified to the extent to

remove mold and actinomycete antigens.

I must say once again, Lyme disease is transmitted by deer ticks. If one has

not been infested with a deer tick then most likely they do not have Lyme

disease. Antibodies in the blood to various antigens, including the :Lyme

bacteria, only mean exposure not necessarily illness. There has been too much

hype regarding Lyme disease. If one has elevated IgG antibodies and very low or

not IgM antibodies to an antigen, the tests results only demonstrated immune

memory, not infection. The infectious agent must be cultured and identified for

a positive result.

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My first question made no sense..! Sorry. I'll try again

If someone needed high dose antibiotics long term for some reason, for example

Lyme patient, and also had systemic fungal infection, would the antibiotics

cause a problem w the fungal infection? Does anyone know?

>

> If someone needed high dose antibotics long term, like for example Lyme

patient need, would it be a problem if they also had a it is difficult to treat

someone w two illnesses? Thanks

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I get thrush when I take them

In a message dated 1/1/2011 9:04:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

advocate_now@... writes:

Personal experience: I get a yeast infection every. single. time. I am on

antibiotics. Every time! I dislike them. I use them when necessary, and that

turns out to be a lot, but I don't like them.

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From: barb b w

My first question made no sense..! Sorry. I'll try again

If someone needed high dose antibiotics long term for some reason, for

example Lyme patient, and also had systemic fungal infection, would the

antibiotics cause a problem w the fungal infection? Does anyone know?

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I know there have been a lot of false positives out there just for what you

stated below.   When I got my first positive test, I said no way!!!   had

them redo he test, turns out there were 5 other false positives in same week

from the same lab.  

From: Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. <toxicologist1@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Theoretical question

Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 11:56 AM

Most likely. Also, antibiotics are immune suppressing chemicals. Antibiotics

are products of mold and actinomycetes, they are not purified to the extent to

remove mold and actinomycete antigens.

I must say once again, Lyme disease is transmitted by deer ticks. If one has

not been infested with a deer tick then most likely they do not have Lyme

disease. Antibodies in the blood to various antigens, including the :Lyme

bacteria, only mean exposure not necessarily illness. There has been too much

hype regarding Lyme disease. If one has elevated IgG antibodies and very low or

not IgM antibodies to an antigen, the tests results only demonstrated immune

memory, not infection. The infectious agent must be cultured and identified for

a positive result.

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Personal experience: I get a yeast infection every. single. time. I am on

antibiotics. Every time! I dislike them. I use them when necessary, and that

turns out to be a lot, but I don't like them.

----- Original Message -----

From: barb b w

My first question made no sense..! Sorry. I'll try again

If someone needed high dose antibiotics long term for some reason, for example

Lyme patient, and also had systemic fungal infection, would the antibiotics

cause a problem w the fungal infection? Does anyone know?

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I`ll tell you my experience with them for the past month.

My Intergrative doctor felt it was necessary to give me massive amounts of anti

biotics for the past month to treat the nasal staph

way back in the nasal cavity that many mold suferrer have.

Dr. S recommends treating this before VIP. Anyway, as I was on these

3 different antibiotics for 4 weeks now all of a sudden I began to feel sick.

Like i use to when my mold illness was bad. I began to get very weak and just

couldnt keep up with much. I stopped the antibiotics and Iam trying to take a

few antifungals I had around the house in the past. I think this is what is

going on. My malise is not much better but that I believ is because of the die

of affect.

I never did finish off all the anti biotics and think the doctor went overboard

with his dosage but what do I know.

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> Personal experience: I get a yeast infection every. single. time. I am on

antibiotics. Every time! I dislike them. I use them when necessary, and that

turns out to be a lot, but I don't like them.

> ----- Original Message -----

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> From: barb b w

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> My first question made no sense..! Sorry. I'll try again

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> If someone needed high dose antibiotics long term for some reason, for example

Lyme patient, and also had systemic fungal infection, would the antibiotics

cause a problem w the fungal infection? Does anyone know?

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After our experiences, we've learned to avoid CAFO sourced meats and seek

out antiobiotic / added hormone free meat.

Anytime I feel a need to call the doc for probable antibiotics (UTI, sinus

infection, bronchitis, etc) I instead boost probiotics and take high doses

of vitamin C and D (5 grams and 60,000 iu / day repectively) for a few days

to see if there are improvements. I have given this a few days trial before

calling the doc. I've found following this plan I have cleared up all my

situations without need to consult the allopathic doc and have since avoided

antibotics.

My husband now also follows this plan. He is acutely and chronically ill,

was told he would be dead within days from severe congestive heart failure

(was stage 4, returned to stage 2, once again stage 3), its been 34 months

and counting! He also suffers lingering partial paralysis / neuropathy since

an " unknown virulent virus " attack nearly 2 years ago. We have yet needed to

call the doc for any antibiotics even for his recent sinus infection and

another bout of bronchitis.

For bronchitis we also use chinese formulas we have experience utilizing

formerly under the guidance of an oriental medicine doctor (OMD).

We've been so succesful now if we call our allopathic MD for anything other

than routine visits with labs or life-threatening concerns his response " you

see oriental doctors for this! " He knows us well :-)

My / our experience, others mileage will vary.

Jeri

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Barb,

I understood what you were asking in the first place.. : )

In my experience the answer is yes indeed. I was put on 3 antibiotics in

November to treat a resistant staph infection and was to continue them after 30

days of usage. My body began to react by mid December

just as it has done before when my fungi (candidia) count and what ever other

fungi I may still have in me skyrockets. I became so weak

and I could hardly function. I suspected it was the antibiotics. The doctor was

away so I could not contact him so I just treated myself as best as I could and

I`am still trying to undo the damage. I started back on

half dose of antifungals I had around for about 5-7 days. The die off for me is

severe even with half dosage. full dosage I`am bedbound. I`am strickly off of

all sugars and wheats, carbs and its now the the end of January and I`am

starting to feel a little better than I did.

I never did finish off the antibiotic`s. I`d rather live with it than

go through that unless I`am at deaths door.

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> > If someone needed high dose antibotics long term, like for example Lyme

patient need, would it be a problem if they also had a it is difficult to treat

someone w two illnesses? Thanks

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