Re: Re: Letter~CA Ins.Comm Candidate.Jack & Carl

[Guest guest]

What started this thread being in discussion was 's comment of the

importance to speak out of the deceit of the US Chamber et al, and basically

that she was glad to see a candidate for CA Comm of Insurance speaking out

of the insurance fraud.

We started ACHEMMIC because of lack of transparency within the EPA. Their

not following through on what they started on the recommendations of the

GAO audit, while not giving clear answers of why this is.

ACHEMMIC was SPECIFICALLY formed to request transparency from the EPA in a

manner to add some muscle to the question lack of transparency in the EPA,

coming from the voices of many.

Jack, you say " What I got tired of was the constant bickering between

Kramer and Wisecup. I spoke with both individuals and they both stood by their

convictions "

In the name of transparency, Jack, what is it you are claiming you caught

in the middle of? What convictions do Kramer and Wisecup standby?

Do you feel it is important for people to continue to speak out of the

deceit of ACOEM?

Why did KC, a few others and myself leave ACHEMMIC?

Carl, you are welcome to jump in here and help Jack answer these

questions.

Sharon

In a message dated 8/17/2010 5:53:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

: you were encouraged by Sharon Kramer to ask this question. I have

never advocated such a position. What I got tired of was the constant

bickering between Kramer and Wisecup. I spoke with both individuals and they

both

stood by their convictions. I, like others (Shoemaker, Fisher and probably

Carl) wanted out of the loop. I asked Sharon to take me out of the loop

and she refused to do so. I am of the position that we must agree to

disagree. Sharon can do as she wishes and Cheryl can do as she wishes. Do not

bring

this issue up with me again. I am tired of it.

I asked Sharon to take me out of the loop, so did Shoemaker, Fischer and

others.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

_toxicologist1@..._ (mailto:toxicologist1@...)

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

_sandracrawley@..._ (mailto:sandracrawley@...)

916-745-4703 - Off

775-309-3994 - Cell

Sharon Noonan Kramer

[Guest guest]

You are asking for transparency then go after Cheryl regarding these issues. As

I said Cheryl has her convictions, you have yours.

You brought this issue up on this forum by sending an email to , asking her

to post her question to me and Carl. So why don't you show your transparency by

admitting it.

I suggest that you post the email that Sharon sent to you so that everyone

can see that you were put up to do this.

I have noticed that Carl has not responded.. Where are you Carl?

Re: [] Re: Letter~CA Ins.Comm Candidate.Jack & Carl

What started this thread being in discussion was 's comment of the

importance to speak out of the deceit of the US Chamber et al, and basically

that she was glad to see a candidate for CA Comm of Insurance speaking out

of the insurance fraud.

We started ACHEMMIC because of lack of transparency within the EPA. Their

not following through on what they started on the recommendations of the

GAO audit, while not giving clear answers of why this is.

ACHEMMIC was SPECIFICALLY formed to request transparency from the EPA in a

manner to add some muscle to the question lack of transparency in the EPA,

coming from the voices of many.

Jack, you say " What I got tired of was the constant bickering between

Kramer and Wisecup. I spoke with both individuals and they both stood by their

convictions "

In the name of transparency, Jack, what is it you are claiming you caught

in the middle of? What convictions do Kramer and Wisecup standby?

Do you feel it is important for people to continue to speak out of the

deceit of ACOEM?

Why did KC, a few others and myself leave ACHEMMIC?

Carl, you are welcome to jump in here and help Jack answer these

questions.

Sharon

In a message dated 8/17/2010 5:53:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

: you were encouraged by Sharon Kramer to ask this question. I have

never advocated such a position. What I got tired of was the constant

bickering between Kramer and Wisecup. I spoke with both individuals and they

both

stood by their convictions. I, like others (Shoemaker, Fisher and probably

Carl) wanted out of the loop. I asked Sharon to take me out of the loop

and she refused to do so. I am of the position that we must agree to

disagree. Sharon can do as she wishes and Cheryl can do as she wishes. Do not

bring

this issue up with me again. I am tired of it.

I asked Sharon to take me out of the loop, so did Shoemaker, Fischer and

others.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

_toxicologist1@..._ (mailto:toxicologist1@...)

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

_sandracrawley@..._ (mailto:sandracrawley@...)

916-745-4703 - Off

775-309-3994 - Cell

Sharon Noonan Kramer