Dead or Alive/Re: Some Basics (Questions)

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Im getting now how the thieves claims can be frustrating. First gives folks the

idea they dont have to get rid of the mold. Second, dispersing thieves into air,

if it kills, is not going to solve the problem and depending on the type of mold

and the person, could make things worse.

To fine tune this (or go further in circles, but hopefully on my way out)...

what about the molds that can infect like fusarium and aspergillus F. both of

which can cause infections in the body.

My parents had extremely high AP in their house and developed lung conditions,

several bouts of pnsumonia for my mother, and are stil struggling. So potential

Aspergillus P there or was there.

The place we are temporatily relocating to has low levels of fusarium in outdoor

air. I am reading this can be common in some places though the literature on

line is sketchy. It was found seasonally in summer in Turkey..

I am also reading more scientifc abstracts about fusarium infections from

hospitals usually with immune compromised people. Many people with lyme and or

CFS/ME are immune compromised.

One potential case where the postulation was the infected contracted fusarium

infections by breathing in the fusarium spores as outdoor air samples were 8

fold higher that day than I suppose indoor or other outdoor sample previously

taken. There was a rash of fusarium infectons with cancer patients.

Fusarium also like to take residence in humidifiers.

So in the cases of these spores (speaking of strays not the mold source)..

wouldnt killing be the exception to the rule? Also, I can see more importance of

getting rid of stuffed furniture, bedding, semi porous items that cannot be

adequately washed.

??

Thank you!

Straying off into the toxicity of fusarium:

I am nervous about the fusarium and dont know if continuous exposure to low

levels of potent toxins, which fusarium contains is dangerous to folks with the

mold and multisuseptable HLA type as per Shoemaker.

Most likely, due to its presence where we are temporarily relocating, we will

not consider staying there unless I can see where fusarium is a very common mold

most everywhere. The toxins are going to emit into the air whether airborne of

not, I am assuming.

I do understand that agricultural areas might have higher levels and we will

stay away from ag areas. My body load is just too high for me to feel

comfortable with fusarium.

Robin

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> Barb,

>

> You're usually right but don't continue to focus on what kills mold,

> or whether spores die or not.

>

> If no water they don't grow. They may die but most will go

> dormant for years, decades, centuries and be revitalized by

> moisture. So remove growth and clean frequently to reduce

> accumulations of settled spores and fragments. Stop the water

> and nothing grows. You also don't need sealants with 20 to 50

> year warranties. Because the warranties are void if - are you

> ready? - the warranties are void if they get wet again. So even the

> shysters know moisture is the key, which is why they void their

> own warranty.

>

> FIRST FACT: You don't need to kill mold.

>

> SECOND FACT: You don't need to kill mold.

>

> THIRD FACT: You don't need to kill mold.

>

> FOURTH FACT: It's not just mold. It's the damp filth.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Mold spores: If they don't get food and water they die. Their 'toxins' stick

> around. That might be what is confusing to you.

>