Re: 7.27.10 Research Shows Controversial Illness is Real and...

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

 

Please explain to me exactly who's ICD-9 Number we are borrowing to describe OUR

illness. What is the exact name and ICD number of the disease which currently

uses that number?  I have listed some ICD-9 codes, at the bottom of this

posting, for you to choose from. Why don't we co-opt the ICD-9 Code for

Infantile Paralysis? That way we also get a free telethon on Labor Day, along

with their ICD-9 Code [Joke]. You can't just pick an ICD-9 code from the

existing list, the way you would pick a hair style you wanted from a picture

book hair style list. A disease has to FIRST be recognized by the international

organization which OWNS the list. Then THEY assign the disease an ICD-9 Code

Number.

 

Entry Portal to ICD-9 Lists

ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/Health_Statistics/NCHS/Publications/ICD9-CM/2009/

 

Some ICD-9 Inflamatory disease code numbers:

Inflammation, inflamed, inflammatory (with exudation)

 

respiratory, upper (see also Infection, respiratory, upper) 465.9

chronic, due to external agent - see Condition, respiratory, chronic, due to,

external agent

due to

fumes or vapors (chemical) (inhalation) 506.2

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Sharon Kramer wrote:

 

I would say so. What is very good about this paper, among other things,

is that Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome CIRS has an ICD 9 code.

These codes are what physicians must follow when diagnosing a patient and

prescribing treatment. So, unlike those who carry the label for their

illness

of Multiple Chemical Sensitivity MCS, which has no ICD code, and thus the

physicians have a difficult time with insurers when trying to treat if

that

diagnosis is given; the label of CIRS-WDB will help the physician to be

able

to do with what he needs to - while adhering to the rules of the system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

ph,

Good questions. I don't know. Jack and Carl are on this board. Maybe

they can answer exactly which ICD 9 Code for CIRS-WDB

I do know this, though. The Dept of Labor awarded disability to one of

the Detroit

Air Traffic Controllers based on the diagnosis of CIRS from water damaged

building exposure - which is an ICD 9 Code diagnosis. Exactly which one, I

don't know. Ask the paper's authors.

If it is a good enough diagnosis for the United States DOL, seems like it

should be good enough for the private sector insurer and & Joan Public.

Sharon

In a message dated 7/30/2010 3:01:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

josephsalowitz@... writes:

Sharon,

Please explain to me exactly who's ICD-9 Number we are borrowing to

describe OUR illness. What is the exact name and ICD number of the disease

which

currently uses that number? I have listed some ICD-9 codes, at the bottom

of this posting, for you to choose from. Why don't we co-opt the ICD-9 Code

for Infantile Paralysis? That way we also get a free telethon on Labor

Day, along with their ICD-9 Code [Joke]. You can't just pick an ICD-9 code

from the existing list, the way you would pick a hair style you wanted from a

picture book hair style list. A disease has to FIRST be recognized by the

international organization which OWNS the list. Then THEY assign the disease

an ICD-9 Code Number.

Entry Portal to ICD-9 Lists

_ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/Health_Statistics/NCHS/Publications/ICD9-CM/2009/_

(ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/Health_Statistics/NCHS/Publications/ICD9-CM/2009/)

Some ICD-9 Inflamatory disease code numbers:

Inflammation, inflamed, inflammatory (with exudation)

respiratory, upper (see also Infection, respiratory, upper) 465.9

chronic, due to external agent - see Condition, respiratory, chronic, due

to, external agent

due to

fumes or vapors (chemical) (inhalation) 506.2

......................................................................

Sharon Kramer wrote:

I would say so. What is very good about this paper, among other things,

is that Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome CIRS has an ICD 9 code.

These codes are what physicians must follow when diagnosing a patient and

prescribing treatment. So, unlike those who carry the label for their

illness

of Multiple Chemical Sensitivity MCS, which has no ICD code, and thus the

physicians have a difficult time with insurers when trying to treat if

that

diagnosis is given; the label of CIRS-WDB will help the physician to be

able

to do with what he needs to - while adhering to the rules of the system.

[Guest guest]

My daughter's doctor coded her MCS as 989.8.........Toxic effect of other

substances, chiefly nonmedicinal as to source.

Jean