Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 I only know that mold has caused me to have serious temperature issues, cold and hot like you describe but generally not so quickly changing. Usually the hot or cold lasts for hours before changing. I especially get very hot in my head and chest and am continually using a cold hand to cool my chest. In summer with 100 degree temperatures it was awful, was using ice and washcloths all the time. I hope you find the cause. Some outdoor contaminant coming in? Is anyone spraying? painting? Have you had a lot of rain or humidity? Mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 The temperature fluctuations probably result from increases and decreases in pro-inflammatory cytokines that are produced with expoures, e.g. Interleukin 1, TNF-alpha. Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. Toxicologist, Immunotoxicologist, Fetal toxicologist Cell - 575-937-1150 Cell-Thrasher Crawley, M.ED., LADC Trauma Specialist Cell -775-309-3994 www.drthrasher.org From: apami@... Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:22:15 +0000 Subject: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes I only know that mold has caused me to have serious temperature issues, cold and hot like you describe but generally not so quickly changing. Usually the hot or cold lasts for hours before changing. I especially get very hot in my head and chest and am continually using a cold hand to cool my chest. In summer with 100 degree temperatures it was awful, was using ice and washcloths all the time. I hope you find the cause. Some outdoor contaminant coming in? Is anyone spraying? painting? Have you had a lot of rain or humidity? Mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Thank you for responding. I do literally mean sudden. Every 5-10 minutes and I am going nuts about it. I have to put something on, then 5-10 minutes I am sweating a lot and have to take it off and I am burning up.   I have temp changes with mold, m sweats were at night, this is all day and all anight long. God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: anita paulsen <apami@...> Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 8:22:15 PM Subject: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  I only know that mold has caused me to have serious temperature issues, cold and hot like you describe but generally not so quickly changing. Usually the hot or cold lasts for hours before changing. I especially get very hot in my head and chest and am continually using a cold hand to cool my chest. In summer with 100 degree temperatures it was awful, was using ice and washcloths all the time. I hope you find the cause. Some outdoor contaminant coming in? Is anyone spraying? painting? Have you had a lot of rain or humidity? Mold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Mayleen, I've read all your posts and I have to say, you have really gone through so much. I'm not surprised you have this latest symptom, given the sewer and mold and everything. I'm really sorry to hear about all you've been through. ~AN From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 3:02 AM Thank you for responding. I do literally mean sudden. Every 5-10 minutes and I am going nuts about it. I have to put something on, then 5-10 minutes I am sweating a lot and have to take it off and I am burning up.  I have temp changes with mold, m sweats were at night, this is all day and all anight long. God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Everyone should be aware of the dangers of sewer (sewage) exposure. These are hydrogen sulfide and other reduced gaseous sulfur compounds (Neurotoxins and very toxic to mitochondria, very irritating to lungs, skin and eyes); any and all volatiles (microbial and solvents, etc.); Gram negative bacteria and their endotoxins; Gram positive and their exotoxins, and potential infections from the sewer bacteria. In addition, you will have eventual exposure to mold, yeast and bacteria that have grown on the water damaged materials in the home. I have been involved in a situation of an exposure of this type regarding two adults and their 15 year old daughter. All are very ill as results of the multiple toxins. Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 3:02 AM Thank you for responding. I do literally mean sudden. Every 5-10 minutes and I am going nuts about it. I have to put something on, then 5-10 minutes I am sweating a lot and have to take it off and I am burning up. � I have temp changes with mold, m sweats were at night, this is all day and all anight long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Im amazed too. You are a very strong person Mayleen. I really feel for you and everyone effected by this nightmareish illness. You are in my thoughts hon. I wish there was more i could do for you. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thank you so very much Dr Thasher for responding. I understand what you have stated here. It seems I cannot get out of one trap or another. It follows us around like the plague as does the abuse we endure. I have one additional thing I was pondering about last night. I had a severe exposure to formaldehyde. To the point my hands were burnt, the skin had blisters and it broke open. Looked like second degree burns to me. Raw, red, blistered, cracked open. My question can this also have caused these wild body temperature changes ?? Can it disrupt my thyroid that is weak ( I only have half of it and it has a nodule). I have had hyperthyroidism about 30 years ago which went away after treatment. ????  God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 12:33:20 AM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  Everyone should be aware of the dangers of sewer (sewage) exposure. These are hydrogen sulfide and other reduced gaseous sulfur compounds (Neurotoxins and very toxic to mitochondria, very irritating to lungs, skin and eyes); any and [snip] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thank you Ann for reading my posts and responding to me. For some weird reasn I am not getting all of my messages. I only found yours because of Dr Thasher's responce. Thank you for your support. It seems it all follows us around like a bad tail we cannot get rid of. I pray you are doing better. God Bless ! May > > From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...> > Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes > > Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 3:02 AM > > > Thank you for responding. I do literally mean sudden. Every 5-10 minutes and I > > am going nuts about it. I have to put something on, then 5-10 minutes I am > > sweating a lot and have to take it off and I am burning up. > > >  I have temp changes with mold, m sweats were at night, this is all day and all > > anight long. > God Bless !! > > dragonflymcs > > Mayleen > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I do not think that formaldehyde in an by itself causes temperature fluctuations like you describe. Formaldehyde is an adductor to DNA and proteins causing mutations and well as antibody responses to the adduct proteins. The skin reaction you describe appear to be Hypersensitivity Types II-IV, and possibly Type I.The formaldehyde most likely has added to your health problems. Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Everyone should be aware of the dangers of sewer (sewage) exposure. These are hydrogen sulfide and other reduced gaseous sulfur compounds (Neurotoxins and very toxic to mitochondria, very irritating to lungs, skin and eyes); any and [snip] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thank you Dr Thrasher, I am grateful. Now if I could just get out of this swamp........ that would help......    God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 8:00:40 PM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  I do not think that formaldehyde in an by itself causes temperature fluctuations like you describe. Formaldehyde is an adductor to DNA and proteins causing mutations and well as antibody responses to the adduct proteins. The skin reaction you describe appear to be Hypersensitivity Types II-IV, and possibly Type I.The formaldehyde most likely has added to your health problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Mayleen, as an Industrial Hygienist, I can't help but wonder what your exposure was? It sounds like you dipped your hands in concentrated formaldehyde, or were frequently using a cleaner/liquid with formaldehyde (HCHO))as an ingredient. Please can you provide details. Thank You. > > Thank you so very much Dr Thasher for responding. I understand what you have > stated here. It seems I cannot get out of one trap or another. It follows us > around like the plague as does the abuse we endure. > > > I have one additional thing I was pondering about last night. I had a severe > exposure to formaldehyde. To the point my hands were burnt, the skin had > blisters and it broke open. Looked like second degree burns to me. Raw, red, > blistered, cracked open. > > > My question can this also have caused these wild body temperature changes ?? > Can it disrupt my thyroid that is weak ( I only have half of it and it has a > nodule). I have had hyperthyroidism about 30 years ago which went away after > treatment. ???? >  > > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > > > > > ________________________________ > From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> > > Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 12:33:20 AM > Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes > >  > Everyone should be aware of the dangers of sewer (sewage) exposure. These are > hydrogen sulfide and other reduced gaseous sulfur compounds (Neurotoxins and > very toxic to mitochondria, very irritating to lungs, skin and eyes); any and > [snip] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Hi , I walked into a Wal- mart (there I said the bad word) LOL  It was freezing here I did not have how do deal with the cold.  I looked at clothes, got sick, left and the both of us were burnt.  Faces, lips, hands.  I had the worst burns of all on my hands.  I guess they came in with the mother load of formaledhyde. God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: <scottarmour@...> Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:47:58 PM Subject: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  Mayleen, as an Industrial Hygienist, I can't help but wonder what your exposure was? It sounds like you dipped your hands in concentrated formaldehyde, or were frequently using a cleaner/liquid with formaldehyde (HCHO))as an ingredient. Please can you provide details. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Mayleen, since formaldehyde is used in some clothing mfr applications (e.g., wrinkle free), did you figure out which thing you touched? Again, as a hygienist, if there is no exposure there should be no illness/symptom. I would love to know th source so we could no the exposure concentration. To cause large 'burns' one would expect large contact area. Have you had similar past experience - especially with objects your are absolutely certain contained formaldehyde? Your severe " burns " are intriguing because the reaction was immediate. I'd like to hear a toxicologist or skin expert tell me how this could happen. > > Hi , > I walked into a Wal- mart (there I said the bad word) LOL  It was freezing > here I did not have how do deal with the cold.  I looked at clothes, got sick, > left and the both of us were burnt.  Faces, lips, hands.  I had the worst burns > of all on my hands. >  > I guess they came in with the mother load of formaledhyde. > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Fascinating reply, Dr Thrasher. , If I were to make your statement I'd probably modify it from, " as a hygienist... I would love to know th source so we could no (sic) the exposure concentration. " to " as a hygienist... I would love to know the source so we could *attempt* to know the exposure concentration. And, conversely, I'd love to measure something to help determine the source. " As you know, many exposure sources and their concentrations for the hyper-reactive have not been successfully detectable both for known and unknown reasons. Either below the minimum detection limit, testing for the wrong substance, or the " trigger " is actually a combination of factors both exogenous and indogenous. It also carries the hystorical assumption that if we can't measure it then it is doesn't exist and therefore any claimed effect cannot be physical in nature. Usually implying but sometimes stated that the claim is therefore, by process of elimination, psychogenic. And the latest, as our mutual colleague recently posted on another forum, there is the mystery of the disappearing statistical correlation in an article in The New Yorker titled, " The Truth Wears Off " by Jonah Lehrer. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- : Formaldehyde is an adductor. It binds to proteins causing the formation of denatured proteins which act as antigenic determinants. The immune response to these new antigenic determinants include Hypersensitivity Types I to IV. The British have added Type V (autoimmune diseases). Once sensitized the immune reaction to minute amounts can cause severe skin reactions involving Types II, III and IV. Hypersensitivity Types II, III and IV can appear suddenly and look like skin burns. I published on this subject many years ago regarding exposure to formaldehyde in mobile homes and in a ureaformaldehyde spill in Alaska. The formaldehyde resins are used for both antiwrinkle effect and fire retardation. The formaldehyde concentrations in the mobile homes were as low as 0.05 ppm at the time of testing. The concentrations in the Alaska spill are in the paper below: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1567939/pdf/envhper0 0414-0211.pdf [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Mayleen, since formaldehyde is used in some clothing mfr applications (e.g., wrinkle free), did you figure out which thing you touched? Again, as a hygienist, if there is no exposure there should be no illness/symptom. I would love to know th source so we could no the exposure concentration. To cause large 'burns' one would expect large contact area. Have you had similar past experience - especially with objects your are absolutely certain contained formaldehyde? Your severe " burns " are intriguing because the reaction was immediate. I'd like to hear a toxicologist or skin expert tell me how this could happen. ---------- The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: DEFAULT.BMP Date: 15 Jun 2009, 23:10 Size: 358 bytes. Type: Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 : Formaldehyde is an adductor. It binds to proteins causing the formation of denatured proteins which act as antigenic determinants. The immune response to these new antigenic determinants include Hypersensitivity Types I to IV. The British have added Type V (autoimmune diseases). Once sensitized the immune reaction to minute amounts can cause severe skin reactions involving Types II, III and IV. Hypersensitivity Types II, III and IV can appear suddenly and look like skin burns. I published on this subject many years ago regarding exposure to formaldehyde in mobile homes and in a ureaformaldehyde spill in Alaska. The formaldehyde resins are used for both antiwrinkle effect and fire retardation. The formaldehyde concentrations in the mobile homes were as low as 0.05 ppm at the time of testing. The concentrations in the Alaska spill are in the paper below: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1567939/pdf/envhper00414-0211.pdf [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Mayleen, since formaldehyde is used in some clothing mfr applications (e.g., wrinkle free), did you figure out which thing you touched? Again, as a hygienist, if there is no exposure there should be no illness/symptom. I would love to know th source so we could no the exposure concentration. To cause large 'burns' one would expect large contact area. Have you had similar past experience - especially with objects your are absolutely certain contained formaldehyde? Your severe " burns " are intriguing because the reaction was immediate. I'd like to hear a toxicologist or skin expert tell me how this could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Carl: Thank you. Help me figure this one out. For some reason your emails are going directly to me delete file. How do I correct this? Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Fascinating reply, Dr Thrasher. , If I were to make your statement I'd probably modify it from, " as a hygienist... I would love to know th source so we could no (sic) the exposure concentration. " to " as a hygienist... I would love to know the source so we could *attempt* to know the exposure concentration. And, conversely, I'd love to measure something to help determine the source. " As you know, many exposure sources and their concentrations for the hyper-reactive have not been successfully detectable both for known and unknown reasons. Either below the minimum detection limit, testing for the wrong substance, or the " trigger " is actually a combination of factors both exogenous and indogenous. It also carries the hystorical assumption that if we can't measure it then it is doesn't exist and therefore any claimed effect cannot be physical in nature. Usually implying but sometimes stated that the claim is therefore, by process of elimination, psychogenic. And the latest, as our mutual colleague recently posted on another forum, there is the mystery of the disappearing statistical correlation in an article in The New Yorker titled, " The Truth Wears Off " by Jonah Lehrer. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hi ,   Thanks for responding. I am concernd about this myself. The burns were bad and I am affraid of children being injured. I was touching (reading labels so not much skin contact). The clothes were either folded or hanging on hangers, none of which were permanent press or wrinkle free. I was looking for 100% cotton.  So I had to read labels.   I am sure (positive) it was WaL-Mart. We both got burns. I suffered the worse burns,  I have since spoken to a cashier there and she suspects clothes are burning her too. complained of dry, bruned hands.  She told me to complain as they were having problems too.   She has had daily contact with clothing items. I had one day conatct. We have the burns after some healing on film now. Water made the burns worse. When my hands were washed or placed in water the burning started all over. They were pretty bad. I would love for someone to investigate this. I have found this online after looking :  i am really upset that this has happened before and contnues to happen. Lead has gotten a lot of press lately, especially with the recent recalls of a whole lotta Mattel toys. Lead, however, is not the only problem you may encounter with products made in China. A New Zealand investigative television show is set to reveal that scientists found 500 times the safe amount of formaldehyde in woolen and cotton clothing made in China. http://www.parentdish.com/2007/08/19/chinese-clothing-may-be-toxic/ http://www.safbaby.com/formaldehyde-free-baby-and-childrens-clothing-companies Wal-Mart Department Store Co., Ltd. in Beijing in sales, in nominal Shenzhen Airlines Cashmere Products Co., Ltd. produced " JEANBERGER " leisure pants (170/80A); billion passenger-long Haotian Trading Company's sales, nominal by the City of Guangdong Province Harvard Road Clothing Co., Ltd. production, " Harvard Road, " trousers (23), were found excessive formaldehyde. http://www.sourcejuice.com/1012534/2006/11/15/Wal-Mart-been-selling-pants-formal\ dehyde-file/ https://windsorpeak.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=311759  God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: <scottarmour@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 9:09:43 AM Subject: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  Mayleen, since formaldehyde is used in some clothing mfr applications (e.g., wrinkle free), did you figure out which thing you touched? Again, as a hygienist, if there is no exposure there should be no illness/symptom. I would love to know th source so we could no the exposure concentration. To cause large 'burns' one would expect large contact area. Have you had similar past experience - especially with objects your are absolutely certain contained formaldehyde? Your severe " burns " are intriguing because the reaction was immediate. I'd like to hear a toxicologist or skin expert tell me how this could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Please keep telling me more. I also get burns from paper, I cannot even get mail, both respiratory inability and I get skin burns    God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: Carl E. Grimes <grimes@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 11:57:40 AM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  Fascinating reply, Dr Thrasher. , If I were to make your statement I'd probably modify it from, " as a hygienist... I would love to know th source so we could no (sic) the exposure concentration. " to " as a hygienist... I would love to know the source so we could *attempt* to know the exposure concentration. And, conversely, I'd love to measure something to help determine the source. " As you know, many exposure sources and their concentrations for the hyper-reactive have not been successfully detectable both for known and unknown reasons. Either below the minimum detection limit, testing for the wrong substance, or the " trigger " is actually a combination of factors both exogenous and indogenous. It also carries the hystorical assumption that if we can't measure it then it is doesn't exist and therefore any claimed effect cannot be physical in nature. Usually implying but sometimes stated that the claim is therefore, by process of elimination, psychogenic. And the latest, as our mutual colleague recently posted on another forum, there is the mystery of the disappearing statistical correlation in an article in The New Yorker titled, " The Truth Wears Off " by Jonah Lehrer. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 All I can tell you is that you appear to be having a severe immune response with the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines. Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Fascinating reply, Dr Thrasher. , If I were to make your statement I'd probably modify it from, " as a hygienist... I would love to know th source so we could no (sic) the exposure concentration. " to " as a hygienist... I would love to know the source so we could *attempt* to know the exposure concentration. And, conversely, I'd love to measure something to help determine the source. " As you know, many exposure sources and their concentrations for the hyper-reactive have not been successfully detectable both for known and unknown reasons. Either below the minimum detection limit, testing for the wrong substance, or the " trigger " is actually a combination of factors both exogenous and indogenous. It also carries the hystorical assumption that if we can't measure it then it is doesn't exist and therefore any claimed effect cannot be physical in nature. Usually implying but sometimes stated that the claim is therefore, by process of elimination, psychogenic. And the latest, as our mutual colleague recently posted on another forum, there is the mystery of the disappearing statistical correlation in an article in The New Yorker titled, " The Truth Wears Off " by Jonah Lehrer. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Most likely some sort of setting in your email program. Or your ISP detects me as spam. I have no issues with other groups or individuals. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC (fm my Blackberry) Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Carl: Thank you. Help me figure this one out. For some reason your emails are going directly to me delete file. How do I correct this? Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes Fascinating reply, Dr Thrasher. , If I were to make your statement I'd probably modify it from, " as a hygienist... I would love to know th source so we could no (sic) the exposure concentration. " to " as a hygienist... I would love to know the source so we could *attempt* to know the exposure concentration. And, conversely, I'd love to measure something to help determine the source. " As you know, many exposure sources and their concentrations for the hyper-reactive have not been successfully detectable both for known and unknown reasons. Either below the minimum detection limit, testing for the wrong substance, or the " trigger " is actually a combination of factors both exogenous and indogenous. It also carries the hystorical assumption that if we can't measure it then it is doesn't exist and therefore any claimed effect cannot be physical in nature. Usually implying but sometimes stated that the claim is therefore, by process of elimination, psychogenic. And the latest, as our mutual colleague recently posted on another forum, there is the mystery of the disappearing statistical correlation in an article in The New Yorker titled, " The Truth Wears Off " by Jonah Lehrer. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thank you Dr Thrasher, but it was in french LOL  can I now have a discription in plain english.   Severe Inflamation i understand , the other part a little more detail maybe ??  Thank you God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 8:14:28 PM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  All I can tell you is that you appear to be having a severe immune response with the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 also check this out on clothing making people sick: <http://www.thecanaryreport.org/2010/10/31/horror-fil/> >Hi , > >Thanks for responding. I am concernd about this myself. The burns were >bad and >I am affraid of children being injured. I was touching (reading labels >so not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I cannot say it any other way. I will try something else. When the immune system is activated (both humoral and innate), the cells produce pro-inflammatory chemicals (cytokines) that cause the inflammation you are experiencing. The only defense is to stay away from the offending environments. Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes All I can tell you is that you appear to be having a severe immune response with the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thank you again Dr Thrasher.  I guess my body is an inflammatory mess. I will definately read up some more on this.  Thank you once again.   God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 11:23:01 PM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  I cannot say it any other way. I will try something else. When the immune system is activated (both humoral and innate), the cells produce pro-inflammatory chemicals (cytokines) that cause the inflammation you are experiencing. The only defense is to stay away from the offending environments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thanks , I wonder if anyone is doing anything about this. I know how it happened to me, but what about a child???   God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: sue <svican@...> Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 11:20:22 PM Subject: Re: [] Re: Dr/ Help Temperature Changes  also check this out on clothing making people sick: <http://www.thecanaryreport.org/2010/10/31/horror-fil/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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