Car and Car Air Conditioning/Re: more mold

[Guest guest]

There are available a few air purifiers for the car that have hepa filters and

carbon filters.  There is also a cabin filter from the manufactuer that can be

changed frequestly. 

I have heard other talk of this :  They say it has been very useful to them. 

Mostly for VOC's

http://www.air-purifier-power.com/portable-air-purifiers.html

Amaricare you can order VOC canister or blanket,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they also

have the cabin filters I believe by auto model.

http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/roomaid.html?itemId=287

Cabin filters are found behind an access panel in the AC duct housing, which may

be under the hood or inside the cab. It will generally be on the passenger

side.  See your owner manual forcabin air filter not to be confused with the

other filters.

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

The contamination of the car may be coming from outside the car threw the

ventilation system

Whenever you drive you recirculation button should be on meaning it is closed,

not coming in from outside.  Change the cabin filter often and use an air

purifier inside the car.  Keep car dry.  So on damp days do not open your car

to

the envrionment. 

On dry days you may what to exchange the air in your car. Do it in a safe place,

away from traffic, pollution, near the beach on a very dry day I feel helps.

These are things that I have done to keep the car safe.  Have not had any

problems.  I know I may end up sleeping in it so I try very hard to keep it

livable.

The exposures you maybe experiencing may be coming from outside, molds are

outside too, the reactions may not be from mold as you can get sensitized to

others things as well. 

You have to figure out what Is causing the reaction, mold from outside, dampness

moldy outside coming threw your recirculation system etc.

When I became sensitive in my car I noticed what was going on around me at the

moment.  Recirculation button was a big problem.  

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 12:22:00 AM

Subject: [] Car and Car Air Conditioning/Re: more mold

 

This is an excellent question one that i was thinking of earlier. How do you

make sure the hvac doesn't get contaminated and if it does how do you remediate

without causing any cross contamination?

>

> How do we properly clean and maintain Central air and ducts? After mold

>contamination of house and before when move to new location?

>

> Thank you..

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

It is possible that the contamination is coming from outside the car. However,

it is most likely that the AC system is contaminated. Fungi and Actinomycetes

have been demonstrated in the A.C. system of automobiles.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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Dr. Thrasher, 

Do you know if there is a safe way to decontaminate a car a/c system that gets

musty and how best to keep it clean? I've asked some remediation companies and

those in my area say they do not work on cars.

Thanks,Sam

It is

possible that the contamination is coming from outside the car. However, it is

most likely that the AC system is contaminated. Fungi and Actinomycetes have

been demonstrated in the A.C. system of automobiles.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

There is no simple way that I know. Perhaps Carl Grimes knows. The situations

I have been involved in resulted in replacement of the AC system, particularly

the condenser and confessor pans. You need to make sure that the condensation

is draining from the collection pan. Some manufacturers mad the car AC a closed

system and the pan does not drain or empty to the exterior. The collected water

was allowed to evaporate with time.

Re: [] Car and Car Air Conditioning/Re: more mold

Dr. Thrasher,

Do you know if there is a safe way to decontaminate a car a/c system that gets

musty and how best to keep it clean? I've asked some remediation companies and

those in my area say they do not work on cars.

Thanks,Sam

It is

possible that the contamination is coming from outside the car. However, it is

most likely that the AC system is contaminated. Fungi and Actinomycetes have

been demonstrated in the A.C. system of automobiles.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

[Guest guest]

Carl-if this really works I am going to be so grateful to you! I am assuming the

scent from this is unoffensive and non-toxic. Also I'm not super clear about the

intake and I'm not exactly sure how to get it to exhaust but I will try this!

Anyone following me knows that AC in cars are a BIG BIG problem for me-in fact

I'm driving with a protective mask now because I can't afford a new car.

Thank you!!!!

Surella

>

> There is a simple way for a temporary solution to the car A/C

> problem.

>

> Go to the health food store and buy the 2 oz container of

> Citricidal. It's grapefruit seed extract and it comes in a white

> plastic bottle with red lettering. It will say for internal use only but

> it works great for spraying on plants and into car A/C units.

>

> Contrary to what I say about not having to kill mold this stuff

> works differently and seems to do more than just kill mold. It

> works great for small areas and limited use. Unfortunately it is not

> EPA registered as an anti-microbial and the company making it

> isn't foolish enough to over-sell it.

>

> Mix it twice the strength it says on the bottle with a quart of tap

> water and put it in a trigger spray bottle.

>

> Turn on the car and run the A/C with the fan on high to pull in

> outside air and exhaust through the floor vents. Spray about a

> quarter of the bottle into the air intake, usually along the bottom of

> the windshield. Most will hit the grid and the interior structure but

> some of the spray will go all the way through.

>

> Then switch the A/C so it exhausts through the dash vents.

> Repeat the spraying.

>

> The turn off the A/C and put on the heat. Repeat.

>

> Sit in the car with the fan blowing and see if the air coming out

> the dash vents is okay. (Sorry, but that is the only way to test

> this). If so, you are done. If not, mix another bottle of solution and

> repeat the process.

>

> Almost always 2-3 applications will sufficiently reduce the mold,

> bacteria and other substances coming from the A/C. If you can't

> get it good enough then you have to take it to the auto repair

> shop and have them flush the A/C coil with YOUR solution, NOT

> theirs! If that doesn't work then replacement, as Dr Thrasher

> suggested, is the only option.

>

> I have used this process on my own car and on client cars for

> years. They usually have me do it the first time because they

> aren't sure how to do it. But after they observe once they take

> care of it themselves. You can't ruin anything with this and the

> concentrate makes so much useable liquid that you don't have to

> worry about wasting it.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

[Guest guest]

Mayleen, I think I disagree with you on this. As you point out, many newer cars

have cabin air filters. Most of these filter only outside air entering the AC,

but do not filter recirculating air. If there is absolutely no dust in your car,

great, no problem. But if there is dust, or perhaps you take a pet in the car,

some of that dust and animal dander will enter the AC when it is on recirculate,

potentially contaminating coils and drain pan, leading to mold growth. My car is

a 1996 Ford Contour which has never been run on AC Max, recirculate. The AC

still smells as fresh as when new. And AC mold is my worst trigger. As you point

out, cabin air filters should be changed frequently. I have found that I can get

3 years or more on a filter if I spray a little Lysol on it before installation.

I change it in the spring so I can drive with my windows open until the Lysol

smell is gone. Without Lysol, filters are good for me for 18 months tops.

Gil

Re: Car and Car Air Conditioning/Re: more mold

Posted by: " dragonflymcs " dragonflymcs@... dragonflymcs

Date: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:13 pm ((PDT))

The contamination of the car may be coming from outside the car threw the

ventilation system

Whenever you drive you recirculation button should be on meaning it is closed,

not coming in from outside. Change the cabin filter often and use an air

purifier inside the car. Keep car dry. So on damp days do not open your car to

the envrionment.

On dry days you may what to exchange the air in your car. Do it in a safe

place, away from traffic, pollution, near the beach on a very dry day I feel

helps.

These are things that I have done to keep the car safe. Have not had any

problems. I know I may end up sleeping in it so I try very hard to keep it

livable.

The exposures you maybe experiencing may be coming from outside, molds are

outside too, the reactions may not be from mold as you can get sensitized to

others things as well.

You have to figure out what Is causing the reaction, mold from outside,

dampness moldy outside coming threw your recirculation system etc.

When I became sensitive in my car I noticed what was going on around me at the

moment. Recirculation button was a big problem.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen