Re: Kenalog or other steroids

[Guest guest]

I was on steroids for a year had a hard time cong down off them so we

had to go real slow they helped me with acute asthma but made me gain weight

In a message dated 12/12/2010 5:12:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

There is ample information in the medical/scientific literature that

steroid use increases the risk of aspergillosis. A minimum of two weeks usage

is

sufficient to do this.

Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria.

However, they inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores

and bacteria that are taken up by these cells.

[Guest guest]

There is ample information in the medical/scientific literature that steroid use

increases the risk of aspergillosis. A minimum of two weeks usage is sufficient

to do this.

Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria. However,

they inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores and

bacteria that are taken up by these cells.

[] Kenalog or other steroids

This is a difficult question to ask because I'm not exactly sure how to word

it to get my point across but I'll do the best I can. Can being on kenalog or

other steroids cause even a mild exposure to turn into one that sends your

system into overload and you became extremely symptomatic? I'm thinking that

steroids will weaken the immune system and allow something that normally

wouldn't bother you (like a mold exposure) to turn into something that could

completely wreak havoc on your immune system and make you more susceptible to

major health problems.

I guess the best way to put it is can streroids turn a minor exposure into

something major?

Sorry I'm not making myself to clear I'm dealing with allot of brain fog

today.

Tug

[Guest guest]

I have experienced what you are talking about. The steroids made me so sick I

ended up in bed and couldn't get out of bed for a week with a high fever and

sore throat. Dr. Shoemaker says it's like throwing gasoline on a fire...

Kathi

>

> This is a difficult question to ask because I'm not exactly sure how to word

it to get my point across but I'll do the best I can. Can being on kenalog or

other steroids cause even a mild exposure to turn into one that sends your

system into overload and you became extremely symptomatic? I'm thinking that

steroids will weaken the immune system and allow something that normally

wouldn't bother you (like a mold exposure) to turn into something that could

completely wreak havoc on your immune system and make you more susceptible to

major health problems.

>

> I guess the best way to put it is can streroids turn a minor exposure into

something major?

>

> Sorry I'm not making myself to clear I'm dealing with allot of brain fog

today.

>

> Tug

>

[Guest guest]

Are you differentiating between steriods and corticosteriods here or are you

saying they both do this?

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> There is ample information in the medical/scientific literature that steroid

use increases the risk of aspergillosis. A minimum of two weeks usage is

sufficient to do this.

>

> Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria. However,

they inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores and

bacteria that are taken up by these cells.

>

[Guest guest]

thank you for all your replys.

Dr Thrasher in English please

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

> Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria. However,

they inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores and

bacteria that are taken up

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, good to know. Macrophages suppressed by steroids.another reason to be

anti-steroid.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

There is ample information in the medical/scientific literature that steroid use

increases the risk of aspergillosis. A minimum of two weeks usage is sufficient

to do this.

Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria. However, they

inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores and bacteria

that are taken up by these cells.

[Guest guest]

No. This information has been on my web site for sometime and is in the review

paper written by me and S. Crawley on biocontaminants.

[] Re: Kenalog or other steroids

Are you differentiating between steriods and corticosteriods here or are you

saying they both do this?

>

> There is ample information in the medical/scientific literature that steroid

use increases the risk of aspergillosis. A minimum of two weeks usage is

sufficient to do this.

>

> Corticosteroids do not inhibit phagocytosis of spore and bacteria. However,

they inhibit the respiratory burst of macrophages that kill the spores and

bacteria that are taken up by these cells.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry. I haven't had time to read it yet. My dermatologist gave me kenalog

injections skin depth only for a skin problem. Cleared up the bacterial

infection but I developed brown stain there, so not going to get them anymore.

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> No. This information has been on my web site for sometime and is in the

review paper written by me and S. Crawley on biocontaminants.

>

> [] Re: Kenalog or other steroids

>

> Are you differentiating between steriods and corticosteriods here or are you

saying they both do this?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and if you have not been listening , it has been mentioned at least once a

week. Dr Shoe even says steroids are contra-indicated. When I was exposed to

mold in 1991 , no one knew anything about it. i went to the dr because I had

irritated lungs. She gave me a strong steroid inhaler. it tripped my into the

worst MCS I ever had in my life and made living intolerable. Never take

steroids.

>

> This is a difficult question to ask because I'm not exactly sure how to word

it to get my point across but I'll do the best I can. Can being on kenalog or

other steroids cause even a mild exposure to turn into one that sends your

system into overload and you became extremely symptomatic? I'm thinking that

steroids will weaken the immune system and allow something that normally

wouldn't bother you (like a mold exposure) to turn into something that could

completely wreak havoc on your immune system and make you more susceptible to

major health problems.

>

> I guess the best way to put it is can streroids turn a minor exposure into

something major?

>

> Sorry I'm not making myself to clear I'm dealing with allot of brain fog

today.

>

> Tug

>

[Guest guest]

What about hydrocortisone or adrenal cortex extract?

[Guest guest]

Any of the adrenal steroids used to treat inflammation. I suggest all of you

read on the use of steroid to control inflammation.

[] Re: Kenalog or other steroids

What about hydrocortisone or adrenal cortex extract?