Re: Carl - Washing Clothes

[Guest guest]

Carl,

 

then what do you suggest will work for washing clothes that have spores on them?

 

Shonda

Rescue until there are none; don't breed or buy while homeless animals still

die.

Don't cry because they passed on; smile because you were blessed to have them.

Abusing animals is abusing perfection that God has blessed us with.

 

 

From: Carl Grimes <grimes@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Has Anyone Used these products?

Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 9:10 PM

Tug,

If it is true as you say that you used Microban to launder your clothes then

that is the most likely reason why your reactivity cannot be  controlled.

You are always exposed to a known chemical trigger which was improperly used in

the mold remediation. If you continue to use it because of ongoing " mold "

reactions then it will seem like you have been cross-contaminating mold. While

that may also be true  it would also be true you are directly and repeatedly

contaminating with a chemical.

One connection between them is mold gives off VOCs which are chemicals in the

same family as some of those in Microban and other antimicrobial products. They

are also in most cleaning and personal care products. You will keep getting

triggered all over the place.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[Guest guest]

Shonda,

Anything that works as a detergent. Seriously, to get rid of the

spores use hot water and a detergent to loosen them from the

fabric so they will go down the drain.

Killing them with a chemical, or heat, or anything else without

removing from the clothing does nothing. The components of the

cell walls which trigger the reactions are still present in dead mold

just like they are in live mold. Killing does not change any of that.

Killing only stops them from growing more spores. But they won't

grow anyway unless kept damp.

Spores and other parts of the whole mold organism (spores are

the seeds, not all there is to mold growth) can generate VOCs

and mycotoxins. These are a problem but they can't be killed

because they aren't alive. They are what live mold generates, sort

of like waste products.

But residues of them can be a problem and a difficult one at that.

This is why some on this group say using ammonia will help, that

it will alter or change those to something different. Some have

said it works but others have said it doesn't. But what I and others

caution is that if you are reactive to ammonia then washing

clothes with it probably isn't a good idea. If you don't react to

ammonia, go ahead.

Here's an important point when trying to figure out what is the

right thing to do and what to avoid. If it is successful doing what it

claims but you react to it, you have not solved the problem. You

have added to the problem or replaced it with a new one.

There is no absolute right answer for everyone. And that is what

makes this so hard. Find out the possibilites from others but then

you have to experiment to see what you don't react to.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Carl,

then what do you suggest will work for washing clothes that have spores

on them?

Shonda

Rescueuntil there are none; don't breed or buy while homeless animals

still die.

Don't cry because theypassed on; smile because you were blessed to

have them.

Abusing animals is abusingperfection that God has blessed us with.

From: Carl Grimes <grimes@...>

Subject: Re: [] Re: Has Anyone Used these products?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 9:10 PM

Tug,

If it is true as you say that you used Microban to launder your clothes

then that is the most likely reason why your reactivity cannot be

controlled.

You are always exposed to a known chemical trigger which was

improperly used in the mold remediation. If you continue to use it

because of ongoing " mold " reactions then it will seem like you have been

cross-contaminating mold. While that may also be true it would also be

true you are directly and repeatedly contaminating with a chemical.

One connection between them is mold gives off VOCs which are

chemicals in the same family as some of those in Microban and other

antimicrobial products. They are also in most cleaning and personal care

products. You will keep getting triggered all over the place.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

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