Re: type 111 Gell and Combs

[Guest guest]

Yep, Jeanine,

That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness in which

the

macrophanges are working their tails off to make one better as they circulate

throughout the body. It is kind of like a war going on in your body where

the battle ground is constantly moving.

In a message dated 9/9/2010 12:43:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

Type III Immune Complex Hypersensitivity

A. Reactions occur when soluble antigen and corresponding antibody unite

and activate complement. The Ag-Ab complexes form in blood and tissue spaces

and are deposited in the walls of blood vessels, in basement membranes, an

d in joint synovia.

[Guest guest]

Dr. Marinkovich was an immunologist and a physicist. He was s Hopkins,

Harvard and Kings College educated. He oversaw the pediatric

allergy/immunology clinic at Stanford. Once he started really speaking out of

the

known health effects of mold from water damaged buildings, and speaking out on

behalf of physicians such as Dr. Senaiko, who were successfully treating

children with ADD thru the use of anti-fungals, he too, became a target of the

medical hierarchy. That is another point, the fear of retribution within

the medical community causes many physicians to turn a blind eye. Politics

is more deadly than mold.

Sharon

In a message dated 9/9/2010 4:13:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

svican@... writes:

speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

immunologist? Are we potentially missing something diagnostically by

not having seen an immunologist, and only seeing the mold and

environmental medicine specialists, or do the immunologists ignore mold

and environmental factors, anyone have a perspective on this?

[Guest guest]

speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

immunologist? Are we potentially missing something diagnostically by

not having seen an immunologist, and only seeing the mold and

environmental medicine specialists, or do the immunologists ignore mold

and environmental factors, anyone have a perspective on this?

thanks, sue v

>Yep, Jeanine,

>

>That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

>anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness

[Guest guest]

that's a good description, I can fell these things going on in my body when they

are aggervated. macrophanges gone bad. makes sence to me.

you know, even the most important thing with " true allergies " is advoidance. the

more I look into IgE, the less I believe that it is always related to allergy.

why is it the the other Ig's are fairly gut and dry but IgE, grrrrr.

>

> Yep, Jeanine,

>

> That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

> anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness in

which the

> macrophanges are working their tails off to make one better as they circulate

> throughout the body. It is kind of like a war going on in your body where

> the battle ground is constantly moving.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I went to a allery and immunology clinic in La Crosse,WI.

one of the doctors was a AAEM member doctor.

>

> speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

> immunologist? Are we potentially missing something diagnostically by

> not having seen an immunologist, and only seeing the mold and

> environmental medicine specialists, or do the immunologists ignore mold

> and environmental factors, anyone have a perspective on this?

>

> thanks, sue v

>

>

> >Yep, Jeanine,

> >

> >That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

> >anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Rea did all the same tests for the immune system as my immunologist did. The

T Cell, B Cells and Gamma Globulin levels. (G,M,A and E.) I saw an immunologist

at a hospital here in Dallas who agreed with Dr. Rea that I was immune-deficient

but said that " there was no way that my mold exposure was the cause. " We know

better...

>

> speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

> immunologist? Are we potentially missing something diagnostically by

> not having seen an immunologist, and only seeing the mold and

> environmental medicine specialists, or do the immunologists ignore mold

> and environmental factors, anyone have a perspective on this?

>

> thanks, sue v

>

>

> >Yep, Jeanine,

> >

> >That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

> >anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness

>

[Guest guest]

My allergist is well aware of environmental factors, mold and such. When I told

him about my house having mold, he said that mold would make one ill. IMO, when

ill with mold, it is always good to seek the help of an allergist as a start.

Many people can't fly across the US to a doctor so we have to rely on our local

MD's. As I have said before and again, my allergist played a major factor in

getting me well and keeping me well. The first MD who actually helped me was a

country doctor in the small town that I moved to.

>

>

>

> >

> > speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

> > immunologist? Are we potentially missing something diagnostically by

> > not having seen an immunologist, and only seeing the mold and

> > environmental medicine specialists, or do the immunologists ignore mold

> > and environmental factors, anyone have a perspective on this?

> >

> > thanks, sue v

> >

> >

> > >Yep, Jeanine,

> > >

> > >That is exactly what I was diagnosed with and treated for, with

> > >anti-fungals by Dr. Marinkovich. HP that is a kind of serum sickness

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think haveing at least IgG testing to types of mold found and even some not

found in a WDB. at least if you know what types you were exposed to you'd have a

better idea of understanding what all happened. the cell and combs scale points

to it proveing much more than just exposure. I really wish I had went back for

more testing.

as far as allergy ,IgE, I've read it's not 100 percent allergy driven, toxin

exposure can interfear and no doubt cause more damage and more immune

problems,inflamation,ect. I've also read that IgE testing proves sensitivity but

not allways a allergy.

>

> Dr. Rea did all the same tests for the immune system as my immunologist did.

The T Cell, B Cells and Gamma Globulin levels. (G,M,A and E.) I saw an

immunologist at a hospital here in Dallas who agreed with Dr. Rea that I was

immune-deficient but said that " there was no way that my mold exposure was the

cause. " We know better...

[Guest guest]

In my case the immunologist accepted part but not all.  Not the

hypersensitivity

to other substances part, not all the havoc mold and by-products can do to a

body, but  Accepted HP .............. The RA Dr was injured himself and had 5

sinus surgeries due to mold and open minded due to his own experience. 

Unfortunately I lost my Ins when I found him.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: sue <svican@...>

Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 7:08:55 PM

Subject: Re: [] type 111 Gell and Combs

 

speaking of dr marinkovich, wasn't he both an allergist AND

immunologist?

[Guest guest]

Dr. , Allergy assoc. LC,WI. he uses a treatment of drops under the

tounge instead of allergy shots, I had a reaction to the first drops , something

in them that wasn't found with first round of tests, didn't make it back for

more testing. didn't do the treatment. but they did give me albuteral inhalent,

but it didn't seem to help much than but maybe the diference in in useing a

neubulizer.

longer treament,with maybe slowly getting more opening to the restricted lungs,

I guess. I hadn't really got in a good advoidance state yet either so that

probably played in to weather anything was really helping me at that time. was

still getting exposed to some of my belongings and homes because of lack of

knowledge and collecting evidence,pictures,ect. dealing with belongings.

they also did lung function tests, some food tolerence tests, intradermal

testing, specific IgE,IgG testing for certain molds,

I was haveing a bad reaction when I got there from the hotel hallways I couldn't

advoid, carpet fresh, had dry rales,crackleing in lungs,dilated pupils, worse

loss of balance, ect.

last time I looked he was still listed as AAEM member, would be interesting to

know if he's gained more knowledge on this illness.

I think they were fairly new at it when I went there,2004.

his patients that were there when I was there swore by his allergy drop

treatment. ? I guess at least it would be much easier than shots.

even with allergies the first step is advoidance.

>

> I went to a allery and immunology clinic in La Crosse,WI.

> one of the doctors was a AAEM member doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry some of you are having so many issues with your allergist. I am so

blessed to have one of the best in the world! I went through a few before I

found one that I really liked and I would not give him up for any other doctor!

>

> My Allergy / Immunologist was helpful until I walked in with a respirator. 

> Then he gave me a label and denied me 02 even though I was blue (blue lips,

blue

> nails ) when I went to him.  He would not even do blood work to check my 02

> levels.  Consider your self fortunate as I have seen over 12 physicians most

> probably more than this and have no Dr yet to treat me in yet in 4

>  years.    Tommorrow I have to file a complaint for my latest misfortune

with

> Dr's that almost killed me.  One idiot right after the other. 

>

[Guest guest]

let us know if you check it out. cant remeber if my medicare and medicaid

covered everything or not. if I remember right I had to pay out of pocket for

treament, that may have been another reason I didn't do the treament. thinking

some testing was covered but not all.

>

> Dr. , Allergy assoc. LC,WI. he uses a treatment of drops under the

tounge instead of allergy shots,

>