Re: Re: Mattresses & cross contamination risks

[Guest guest]

thanks, but we don't have months to offgas anything, we will have an

apartment inspected tomorrow and if a " go " will move in this coming

weekend, I will probably move several mattresses from our house, wash

the dust mite covers first and put them back on, and use those until I

can order and get brand new organic futons.........we are not going to

sleep on the hard floor...especially my sick son with his every ache and

pain...

sue

>Hi,

>I am extremely chemically sensitive & to the surprise of those like me I

>slept on an inflatable mattress. I would leave a new one outside to

>offgas for months & then clean it with soap & water followed by vodka -

>which helps neutralize the petroleum. I then put it in a dust mite

>cover. I also had several back-ups that had been offgassing outside for

>months & then put in the attic as they spring leaks very easily.

>

>

>

>>

>> Use inexpensive blow up mattresses . If you take anything from your

>contaminated home, you may not get the full benefit of moving. The

>mycotoxins do not wash of-and with a mattress you could not even try. Do

>not buy a lot of furniture until you have ascertained tat the new home

>is safe. Even then, it could turn on you.

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

There might be a way to minimize off-gas of blow up mattesses. I've never done

this with a blow up mattress, but I have had good luck using carbon fabric

material and blankets to help reduce smells. I don't have the expertise to say

that it officially reduced chemical off-gassing. But it seemed to help me when I

wrapped a mattress in carbon blankets and covered them all in a hypoallergenic

mattress cover. Or maybe does some you know have an old inflatable you can

borrow or buy?

Sam

thanks, but we don't have months to offgas anything, we will have an

apartment inspected tomorrow and if a " go " will move in this coming

weekend, I will probably move several mattresses from our house, wash

the dust mite covers first and put them back on, and use those until I

can order and get brand new organic futons.........we are not going to

sleep on the hard floor...especially my sick son with his every ache and

pain...

sue

[Guest guest]

I'd be afraid of anything with soybeans since most of them are washed

in toxic hexane.

Barth

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bbw> At a fabric store, you can get 2 or 4 inch foam rubber sheets that are bed

size, and put sleeping bags on them. Joanne Fabrics now has green colored ones

that are made of soybeans. Not sure

bbw> how motivated you are to avoid moving your bed or if this would be better

or not. I bought some for a project. It has SOME odor but you have to put your

nose right in it to smell it.

bbw>

>>

>> Hi Sue,

>>

>> Could you get inflatable camping pads as a temporary measure? Thermarest

makes some really comfy thick ones that aren't too pricey and you should be able

to buy them locally. They may have a

>> faint new smell but nothing like the inflatable mattressess. Those really do

stink when brand new.

>>

>> Since your son's health has been so affected it makes sense to do everything

you can not to cross contaminate the new place, even piling blankets on the

floor over an inflatable pad to make it

>> soft enough.

>>

>> Best wishes for the inspection and move,

>>

>> Amy

>>

[Guest guest]

Could you please explain what you mean by off gases? from matresses? Do you mean

with black mold, and asper, and penicilium? I am positive in my house for 9

things the other is floral related it says hyphal---- I could've sworn I smelt

gas the other day but the burners were off? Also can the toxin combination

affect a gas stove in how it functions?

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From: Sam <yaddayadda53@...>

Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 1:44:39 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Mattresses & cross contamination risks

 

There might be a way to minimize off-gas of blow up mattesses. I've never done

this with a blow up mattress, but I have had good luck using carbon fabric

material and blankets to help reduce smells. I don't have the expertise to say

that it officially reduced chemical off-gassing. But it seemed to help me when I

wrapped a mattress in carbon blankets and covered them all in a hypoallergenic

mattress cover. Or maybe does some you know have an old inflatable you can

borrow or buy?

Sam

thanks, but we don't have months to offgas anything, we will have an

apartment inspected tomorrow and if a " go " will move in this coming

weekend, I will probably move several mattresses from our house, wash

the dust mite covers first and put them back on, and use those until I

can order and get brand new organic futons.........we are not going to

sleep on the hard floor...especially my sick son with his every ache and

pain...

sue

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I was referring to the earlier post that had to do with inflatable " blow-up "

mattresses that are made out of synthetic materials that have an chemical odor

to them and tend to off-gas the chemicals they are made from.

Sam

  Could you please explain what you mean by off gases? from matresses? Do you

mean

with black mold, and asper, and penicilium? I am positive in my house for 9

things the other is floral related it says hyphal---- I could've sworn I smelt

gas the other day but the burners were off? Also can the toxin combination

affect a gas stove in how it functions?

________________________________

There might be a way to minimize off-gas of blow up mattesses. "  

[Guest guest]

We had a building biology consultant come check out a prospective rental

unit for us today and he agrees that it is as good as we are going to

find so we will pursue it....it was interesting, he looked for water

intrusion (none, the building is just 6 months old), emf levels--very

low, at levels that people strive for--but not perfect, some hot spots

that could be addressed w/a little shielding, and very slight new

chemical offgassing from new building materials that are mostly

sustainable/non or low toxic, he recommended opening the windows, hepa

filters, and bags of activated charcoal, zeolite and potassium pergamate

(sp?), but really the chemical offgassing is very minimal, a small price

to pay for knowing it is mold-safe...

He also referred us to a mold remediator who may be able to help us w/

our old house but who also does cleaning of possessions, apparently

there is a protocol where they use commercial hepa vacuum, going over

furniture etc. 3 times from different directions, I am eager for a new

day to come so I can call and learn more, would be nice to salvage some

possessions safely.

thanks to all for mattress advice. thermarests are a good idea, not TOO

expensive, pretty comfortable, not too bad smelling from the outset and

can use for camping, etc.---of course wish we could just use the 4

thermarests we already have at home...

sue v.

[Guest guest]

TY Sam for answering so quickly. Right now I feel like this is really the only

place I can talk to people and they understand what I am going through. I really

have a big battle ahead of me as I still have to get a dr and lawyer and I 

don't trust that the health plan dr or a state doctor will even understand what

SBS is. I guess we'll be finding out soon. After living in here for 4 1/2 years

of slowly inhaling this I am frustrated and I am so upset iot kinda probably is

comparable to hormone rage LOL It's driving me crazy and my friends are not

really understanding and I've even thought about just not talking to anyone

anymore cuz I can't say what I mean or I forget things even if i have a list or

i get up to go to the bathrom and i wake up hours later and I am so tired of

being accusswed of of misusuing my meds cuz I know in my heart that isn't what

is causing me to do all these weird things. I've been a chronic pain patient for

12 years so why would I all of a sudden start fainting etc It is very scary to

be inside a body and know the truth but now the people I need to hear this like

a judge I can't find (good lawyer) anyone to help me cuz I am on ssdi and I

don't have $3,500 to even put down or  i am going to just have to start doing a

ton of paperwork and take it to whomever to get my son back home. I am so sad

and very upset and I need some certain people. My pain level is higher than

norrmal and omgosh yesterday it was senior day so i went to the store for my

self and then back to go for my friend and I was so wound up from all of the

actual physical activity I'm finally so tired I want to fall asleep right here

on the keybopard. Goodnite all:0) Going to take a very short nap I have too many

things to do and hope you all have a great day! Thank you for your kindness to

help others out whomever formed this group is a very special person. TYVM!

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From: Sam <yaddayadda53@...>

Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 1:28:44 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Mattresses & cross contamination risks

 

Donna,

I was referring to the earlier post that had to do with inflatable " blow-up "

mattresses that are made out of synthetic materials that have an chemical odor

to them and tend to off-gas the chemicals they are made from.

Sam

  Could you please explain what you mean by off gases? from matresses? Do you

mean

with black mold, and asper, and penicilium? I am positive in my house for 9

things the other is floral related it says hyphal---- I could've sworn I smelt

gas the other day but the burners were off? Also can the toxin combination

affect a gas stove in how it functions?

________________________________

There might be a way to minimize off-gas of blow up mattesses. "  

[Guest guest]

Also, most of them are genetically modified soybeans....courtesy of

Monsanto. I'd stay away.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:16 PM, ginloi <ginloi@...> wrote:

>

>

> Great post - I am afraid of soy for several reasons...first, the " hormone "

> effect, second, the toxic wash you mention, third, it is included in almost

> all processed food, including many baked products such as cookies and

> crackers.

>

> And, I believe that soy should be grown for fuel for autos and for homes,

> period and never consumed by humans. JMHO!

>

>

> >

> > I'd be afraid of anything with soybeans since most of them are washed

> > in toxic hexane.

> >

> > Barth

> >

> > www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

> >

> > SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

> >

> > ---

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear about all that you're going through Donna. Most on the list do

know what you're going through. Thanks to KC we have a forum to share and learn.

 

TY Sam for answering so quickly. Right now I feel like this is really the

only

place I can talk to people and they understand what I am going through. 

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear about all that you're going through Donna. Most on the list do

know what its like. Thanks to KC we have a forum to share and learn. God Bless.

Right now I feel like this is really the only

place I can talk to people and they understand what I am going through. I really

have a big battle ahead of me....  whomever formed this group is a very special

person. TYVM!