Re: Bentonite clay/charcoal coffee enemas

[Guest guest]

I don't mean to get too personal here, but which medications were you given that

caused the heart attack?  So sorry to hear of that challenge; I have had

symptoms of heart failure that seem related to medications/food.  I'm curious

about what meds you were given.  Anyone else react strongly to charcoal?  I

know, it sounds weird, but I really reacted to it.  I know it can be so

helpful,

but I'm scared to try it again.  sally

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From: " kpmanganaro@... " <kpmanganaro@...>

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 4:17:57 AM

Subject: [] Bentonite clay/charcoal coffee enemas

I am using both , bentonite clay and activated charcoal, at the present and they

are helping. I have done colonics too. At one point in time I would get huge

hives every time I ate ANYTHING!!! 

[Guest guest]

Sally, what kind of reaction do you have to charcoal? I know someone who

said it made her wired or hyper and wouldn't take it after that. I follow

the rule that unless I understand (or have a very, very good, educated

guess) as to why I had a bad reaction to something, and it makes sense to

take it again based on that, I won't try it again. Best to be safe.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:55 AM, sally braithwaite-marshalll <

mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

>I don't mean to get too personal here, but which medications were you given

> that

> caused the heart attack? So sorry to hear of that challenge; I have had

> symptoms of heart failure that seem related to medications/food. I'm

> curious

> about what meds you were given. Anyone else react strongly to charcoal? I

>

> know, it sounds weird, but I really reacted to it. I know it can be so

> helpful,

> but I'm scared to try it again. sally

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was given high doses of T3 thyroid hormone that were not properly ramped up

slowly in incremental doses as the body tolerated.

I was also given a high dose of pregnenolone which has been documented by Dr.

Ray Sahelian to cause atrial fibrillation. The hydrocortisone they gave me

helped for two days and then I ended up in bed for a week with high fever, a

sore throat that wouldn't quit and terrible fatigue and weakness. The usual

things such as echinacea and goldenseal did not work. Nothing worked until I

stopped the hydrocortisone. The F & F doctor thought I was detoxing on the

hydrocortisone. It's funny because every other doctor knew that the

hydrocortisone was like Dr. Shoemaker says.... " like throwing gasoline on a fire

if you are toxic from mold " I ended up sicker from their treatment than when I

walked in the door. Prior to going I had been doing high doses of vitamin C to

bowel tolerance. This resulted in a day of herxing and then slow but steady

improvement. When I left work several months before I could barely walk. The F & F

doctor thought I was a hormone only patient. He got nothing right.

I do have CSF as verified by Dr. Cheney. I also took the Shoemaker tests last

month and am a moldie and MCS person. I am in the .5-1% of the population

according to some of my friends that interpreted the test for me. ( HLA DR BDQ)

My MSH is low and so is my VIP. My C4a level is within the range. My TGF b1 is

out of range and is at 11,220. ( normal being 344-2382) My LAD collapsed in the

absence of coronary artery disease. My weight was fine for my age and all heart

factors such as BP, cholesterol, HDL and LDL were in the normal range.

All this happened within two months ( three visits) For me the F & F Center was my

nightmare!!

>

> I don't mean to get too personal here, but which medications were you given

that

> caused the heart attack?  So sorry to hear of that challenge; I have had

> symptoms of heart failure that seem related to medications/food.  I'm curious

> about what meds you were given.  Anyone else react strongly to charcoal?  I

> know, it sounds weird, but I really reacted to it.  I know it can be so

helpful,

> but I'm scared to try it again.  sally

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: " kpmanganaro@... " <kpmanganaro@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 4:17:57 AM

> Subject: [] Bentonite clay/charcoal coffee enemas

>

>

> I am using both , bentonite clay and activated charcoal, at the present and

they

> are helping. I have done colonics too. At one point in time I would get huge

> hives every time I ate ANYTHING!!! 

>

[Guest guest]

Pwr2Heal:  I am so fatigued right now that I might welcome feeling hyper or

wired...hee.  Sorry, my sense of humor has been dimmed as my brain fogs.  Ah,

well.  Within minutes of taking it, one of my calves swelled to three times its

size, my hands and fingers swelled, I had chills and purple blotches on my arms

and legs, my extremities got super cold, and my fingernails turned blue. 

Scary.  I don't want anyone to be afraid of charcoal, as I know this is a

really

atypical reaction.  So, too, is my severe reaction to Benadryl, which helps so

many other folks.  It seems that I react adversely to the cure!!  Weird. 

 I

haven't tried it again since then, as I had eaten nothing else and could

identify no other causes for this scary reaction and don't want to experience

that again.  Again, I am not suggesting charcoal is bad; it's just scary for

me.

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From: Pwr2Heal <pwr2heal@...>

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 12:33:01 PM

Subject: Re: [] Bentonite clay/charcoal coffee enemas

 

Sally, what kind of reaction do you have to charcoal? I know someone who

said it made her wired or hyper and wouldn't take it after that. I follow

the rule that unless I understand (or have a very, very good, educated

guess) as to why I had a bad reaction to something, and it makes sense to

take it again based on that, I won't try it again. Best to be safe.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:55 AM, sally braithwaite-marshalll <

mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

>I don't mean to get too personal here, but which medications were you given

> that

> caused the heart attack? So sorry to hear of that challenge; I have had

> symptoms of heart failure that seem related to medications/food. I'm

> curious

> about what meds you were given. Anyone else react strongly to charcoal? I

>

> know, it sounds weird, but I really reacted to it. I know it can be so

> helpful,

> but I'm scared to try it again. sally

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kathleen!  Doctors have tried to give me steroids of one kind or another for

years.  I had a bad reaction to Prednisone (spelling?) years ago and will not

take these drugs, even though so many providers view them as the only course for

my lung issues.  So glad I trusted my instincts and refused; I am so sorry for

your horrible experience!!  Good health to you...it's coming!!! 

________________________________

From: Kathleen <kpmanganaro@...>

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 1:19:16 PM

Subject: [] Re: Bentonite clay/charcoal coffee enemas

 

I was given high doses of T3 thyroid hormone that were not properly ramped up

slowly in incremental doses as the body tolerated.

I was also given a high dose of pregnenolone which has been documented by Dr.

Ray Sahelian to cause atrial fibrillation. The hydrocortisone they gave me

helped for two days and then I ended up in bed for a week with high fever, a

sore throat that wouldn't quit and terrible fatigue and weakness. The usual

things such as echinacea and goldenseal did not work. Nothing worked until I

stopped the hydrocortisone. The F & F doctor thought I was detoxing on the

hydrocortisone. It's funny because every other doctor knew that the

hydrocortisone was like Dr. Shoemaker says.... " like throwing gasoline on a fire

if you are toxic from mold " I ended up sicker from their treatment than when I

walked in the door. Prior to going I had been doing high doses of vitamin C to

bowel tolerance. This resulted in a day of herxing and then slow but steady

improvement. When I left work several months before I could barely walk. The F & F

doctor thought I was a hormone only patient. He got nothing right.

I do have CSF as verified by Dr. Cheney. I also took the Shoemaker tests last

month and am a moldie and MCS person. I am in the .5-1% of the