Testing [Was: Toxin Help]

[Guest guest]

AN,

I agree with the need - or as you say " obsession " - with tests to figure out

these critical differences so the correct treatment can be determined.

But testing for testing sake can lead to wrong medical treatment and false hope.

The test must be the correct one to answer the medical diagnostic question. And

sometimes it is a combination of factors which must be tested and interpreted.

Think about when a physician has ordered a " panel " of tests to figure out which

of several possibilities is true for you.

Or when you go in for a routine physical. Is there a single test to determine

whether you are healthy or not? No. There are several lab tests and measurements

of body functioning to determine where, within a range of possibilities, you

are. Including age, gender, race, and even geographical location, to name just a

few.

This is where experts often go wrong by not understanding the complexities and

unknowns. Which you so correctly state. A single test is insufficient and may

not support a correct solution.

I think most of us can understand this from a medical point of view. And it is

also true from an environmental point of view.

Which is why Dr Thrasher's statements about a comprehensive panel of testing for

WDB is so critical. And the basis for my saying it's not always just mold and

why a few simple samples (usually the wrong ones) almost never gives a true

picture of what happened, where it is located, and what needs to be done to fix

it. And especially to determine if the remediation is sufficient and

appropriate.

The current discussion about the variabilities and complexuties if fatigue and

CFS is a good case in point.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

Re: [] Re: Toxin Help

This is EXACTLY the reason for an " obsession " with tests:

[Guest guest]

All excellent points! You are right that the problem with testing is when it is

done in isolation and on service of one reductive answer--a false holy Grail.

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On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:52 PM, " Carl Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Which is why Dr Thrasher's statements about a comprehensive panel of testing for

WDB is so critical. And the basis for my saying it's not always just mold and

why a few simple samples (usually the wrong ones) almost never gives a true

picture of what happened, where it is located, and what needs to be done to fix

it. And especially to determine if the remediation is sufficient and

appropriate.

The current discussion about the variabilities and complexuties if fatigue and

CFS is a good case in point.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

Re: [] Re: Toxin Help

This is EXACTLY the reason for an " obsession " with tests:

[Guest guest]

I really like your phrase in " service of one reductive answer... "

That is perhaps the single biggest mistake we all make, including the

professionals.

I have a new client who is confused and frustrated. One person inspected the

leaking roof. Another the synthetic stucco with visible damage and construction

defects. A third inspected the crawlspace.

They each tell him something different. Of course! And nobody has put the pieces

together despite the fact the water in the crawlspace is from all three sources.

Because each has only responded in service of one reductive answer.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

Re: [] Testing [Was: Toxin Help]

All excellent points! You are right that the problem with testing is when it is

done in isolation and on service of one reductive answer--a false holy Grail.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:52 PM, " Carl Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Which is why Dr Thrasher's statements about a comprehensive panel of testing for

WDB is so critical. And the basis for my saying it's not always just mold and

why a few simple samples (usually the wrong ones) almost never gives a true

picture of what happened, where it is located, and what needs to be done to fix

it. And especially to determine if the remediation is sufficient and

appropriate.

The current discussion about the variabilities and complexuties if fatigue and

CFS is a good case in point.