Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I know people who've worked with their family doctors to get the tests done. Labcorp and Quest are pretty standard everywhere in the US, and insurance pays for many of their tests. I've gotten insurance (Medicare) so far on everything but I had to sign ABN's for a few that recently went in. I hear Shoemaker will give a free consult to a physician who is trying to treat a patient with his protocol. A friend of mine did it and recorded the call to play back the relevant sections to her Dr. as she moves through the steps. He's helped a lot of people but it's a lot to travel across the country Janis Visit my blog Search for the Cure: My Healing Journey http://www.cfsmethylation.blogspot.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:09 PM, fontanafool <productionking04@...>wrote: > > > I have been reading Dr. Shoemakers latest book and it is me. Or I am it. > Either way, my daughter is also very much described in the first chapters. > My question is if I were to try and see a doctor who treats basically like > Shoemaker, who would I see? I know the doctor in New Mexico is treating > moldies. After reading the book the description of a dreaded genotype is me > too. I have blue shield here so it would be nice to make them pay for > something, for a change. > Any suggestions? I thought we might make the trip and see if we can get > better. My daughter is in Ventura and I am near San Bernardino. > I don't want my daughter to get worse. > Meredith > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 yes I know how that is. I would love to go see Dr Shoemaker but I live in Maine and I doubt my insurance would cover anyway Janet In a message dated 3/26/2011 3:08:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, productionking04@... writes: My doctor reads everyting I bring in and has done some of the tests. I don't know how you set up a conference with two doctors as I am sure timing is difficult. I thought about giving her the book but how do you ask your doctor to read a 700 page book? If travel weren't so hard I would go to MD. but you all know how that is! Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 HI, my thoughts: 1) I believe there is a doctor in santa barbara area who treats mold patients, but i don't recall her name, someone on this list should know and it is probably in the files 2) there is also an environmental medicine doctor in ojai, dr. robin bernhoft 3) i see a lot of my sick son in dr. shoe's new book too... i have discussed the book with his doctor, and I believe that the missing info in Dr. Shoe's book is 2-fold: a) NOT ONLY MOLD, but other things like lyme, maybe XMRV, and other insults to the body/immune system can cause the innate immune system to go wild and crazy, leading to all these abnormal lab results....so it is not so simple as: conventional labs normal, Shoemaker labs abnormal = mold exposure and mold patient.... my son has had a mold exposure, but also is xmrv positive, maybe has lyme that is indeterminate, also dreaded genotype and doesn't detox well so chemicals, metals build-ups? and what else? he has the mystery diagnosis 5 years into it... there is lots of overlap in symptoms, lab results between chronic fatigue, lyme, mold illness Also, my son's doctor says that some of Dr. Shoe's steps are not so easy as " A out of whack, fix, move on to B, etc... " some of the fixes are not so easy or even necessarily safe in his view, and he is a chronic illness doc completely familiar with shoemaker protocol.... just another viewpoint... Happy Healing, Sue V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 My doctor reads everyting I bring in and has done some of the tests. I don't know how you set up a conference with two doctors as I am sure timing is difficult. I thought about giving her the book but how do you ask your doctor to read a 700 page book? If travel weren't so hard I would go to MD. but you all know how that is! Meredith > > HI, > > my thoughts: > > 1) I believe there is a doctor in santa barbara area who treats mold > patients, but i don't recall her name, someone on this list should know > and it is probably in the files > > 2) there is also an environmental medicine doctor in ojai, dr. robin bernhoft > > 3) i see a lot of my sick son in dr. shoe's new book too... i have > discussed the book with his doctor, and I believe that the missing info > in Dr. Shoe's book is 2-fold: > > a) NOT ONLY MOLD, but other things like lyme, maybe XMRV, and other > insults to the body/immune system can cause the innate immune system to > go wild and crazy, leading to all these abnormal lab results....so it is > not so simple as: conventional labs normal, Shoemaker labs abnormal = > mold exposure and mold patient.... my son has had a mold exposure, but > also is xmrv positive, maybe has lyme that is indeterminate, also > dreaded genotype and doesn't detox well so chemicals, metals build-ups? > and what else? he has the mystery diagnosis 5 years into it... there > is lots of overlap in symptoms, lab results between chronic fatigue, > lyme, mold illness > > Also, my son's doctor says that some of Dr. Shoe's steps are not so > easy as " A out of whack, fix, move on to B, etc... " some of the fixes > are not so easy or even necessarily safe in his view, and he is a > chronic illness doc completely familiar with shoemaker protocol.... just > another viewpoint... > > > Happy Healing, Sue V. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I saw him in 2005 and at that time he was a Preferred Provider of Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Not sure about now. He would be listed in their PP listing of land area if so. In any case, if no longer that cateogory, they would certainly cover charges from him for office visit and SOME of his tests. I was lucky to get tested RIGHT before BC/BS cut some of his tests off as being 'experimental'. Really under the wire bec Dr Shoe wanted to redo a couple tests but his office warned me the second go round I'd have to pay bec of the new classification of the tests, so I was there perhaps just a month before they recategorized many of his blood tests. Paying for the blood work can be expensive. I did not redo the tests bec of it. The staff can give you expected costs of blood work and you could go over list w your insurance co to see what would be covered and what not I think if you wanted to see him! --- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...> wrote: > > I have been reading Dr. Shoemakers latest book and it is me. Or I am it. Either way, my daughter is also very much described in the first chapters. > My question is if I were to try and see a doctor who treats basically like Shoemaker, who would I see? I know the doctor in New Mexico is treating moldies. After reading the book the description of a dreaded genotype is me too. I have blue shield here so it would be nice to make them pay for something, for a change. > Any suggestions? I thought we might make the trip and see if we can get better. My daughter is in Ventura and I am near San Bernardino. > I don't want my daughter to get worse. > Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I don't have medicare but in my experience medicare many times covers more things than private health insurance companies do. I know they sometime even cover alternative cancer treatments given in other countries. > > I know people who've worked with their family doctors to get the tests done. > Labcorp and Quest are pretty standard everywhere in the US, and insurance > pays for many of their tests. I've gotten insurance (Medicare) so far on > everything but I had to sign ABN's for a few that recently went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Hi Meredith- Perhaps someone has already posted this and if so, feel free to ignore: http://www.mold-survivor.com/DrLists/ Kathy --- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...> wrote: > My question is if I were to try and see a doctor who treats basically like Shoemaker, who would I see?..snip....Any suggestions?..snip.. Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 You can get 2 or 3 way doctor calls if the docs are willing, and you usually end up paying both doctors, I inquired way back about phone consults w/Dr Shoe, he won't do them with a patient he hasn't seen in person, so maybe it would just be your doc calling him, and then your doc working with you... sue v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Hi, I'm so sorry that you and your daughter have been made ill by water damaged buildings. I too have had my health and life forever changed by WDB. I had one doctor tell me that I was making it up, nothing was the wrong with me. I had one doctor drug test me. (Of course, negative.) I went from doctor to doctor for 6 years and spent my savings and retirement fund trying to find out what was wrong with me. I saw doctors from California to the east coast. (I live in Kentucky.) I know that it is difficult and expensive to travel, but I haven't been able to find anyone better than Shoemaker. I saw a chronic fatigue specialist in California. I spent A LOT of money on appointments and supplements there. Shoemaker's costs are significantly less. Most blood tests are covered by insurance. His office charges have been 'out of network' for my insurance policies, but are very reasonable. As it turned out, I also had Lyme! He was able to sort things out, and based on labs determine what (Lyme vs WDB exposure) was continuing to make me ill. Feel free to contact me directly if you'd like more information or to discuss. Thanks, Debbie --- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...> wrote: > > I have been reading Dr. Shoemakers latest book and it is me. Or I am it. Either way, my daughter is also very much described in the first chapters. > My question is if I were to try and see a doctor who treats basically like Shoemaker, who would I see? I know the doctor in New Mexico is treating moldies. After reading the book the description of a dreaded genotype is me too. I have blue shield here so it would be nice to make them pay for something, for a change. > Any suggestions? I thought we might make the trip and see if we can get better. My daughter is in Ventura and I am near San Bernardino. > I don't want my daughter to get worse. > Meredith > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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