Sharing

[Guest guest]

Hi I am new to the list and would like to share what I just made..it was a

gel candle. Here are some sites for them.

<A HREF= " http://www.delphi.com/gelcandles " >Gel Candles Forum</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.angelfire.com/cgi-bin/admem?category=Home " >Making Gel

Candles</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.candlegel.com/ " >Candle Gel recipe, formula, suppliers and

procedures GEL CANDLES</A>

<A HREF= " http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/hotscents/ " >SCENTED OILS FOR CANDLES,

SOAPS, & BODY</A>

Marilyn/WA

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I have just signed up for this list. I am hoping to learn a lot about bath

and body items to add to my line of candles after the first of the year. I

live in Georgia, and have 2 children. If any one ever needs any tips on

candles please fill free to ask. I'd like to know where is the best prices on

bottles to put lotions and such in when I make them? Is it easier and cheaper

to perhaps buy lotions already made up and just add my scent? any answers

would be appreciated

thank you,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

There are some great place to get bottles and i get mine from <A

HREF= " http://www.from-nature-with-love.com/ " >From Nature With Love</A> ,Kibby

is a great person to do business with.

There are many places to get bulk lotion and such,it depends on you and what

you want.Here's a place that has lotion and shower gel <A

HREF= " http://www.angelfire.com/yt/CountryProd/index.html " > </A>b<A

HREF= " http://www.bittercreek.net/ " >ittercreek.net</A> .

Kim

Idaho

<A HREF= " http://www.angelfire.com/yt/CountryProd/index.html " >

Country Products</A>

[Guest guest]

Sounds pretty good. Too often my anger and frustration

ends up misguided against my loved ones, not by a

conscious decision, but I guess because I haven't

channelled my anger properly. -dz-

--- EssJayinOR@... wrote:

> This was on another list and I just wanted to share

> it with all of you.

> Reading it this morning brightened up what was

> starting out being a somewhat

> dismal day for me. Hope you all enjoy it. You're in

> my thoughts and prayers.

> Always, SJ

>

> Letter to Hep C, The Mortal Enemy

>

> I felt you there since long ago,

> gnawing at my life

> draining me of energy, causing grief and strife

> You robbed me of ability

> to make my dreams come true

> And everytime we looked for why

> the doctors said " it's you "

> I cannot fault the doctors

> for not finding what you hid

> They naturally assumed

> that you were something that I did

> The years of working faithfully

> with patients where you lay

> exposed me in so many forms

> Even now the stigma stays

> But now we know that long ago

> you snuck into my blood

> and from that point you reproduced

> and caused a painful flood

> I hate you more than words can say

> how you stubbornly refused

> To allow me to become myself

> and kept me so confused

> The thing I really rage about

> that makes us so unkind

> Is the source of all disharmony in body and in mind

> Dragon will NOT keep causing loved ones any more

> tears

> It's YOU the monster that we fight and not our

> friends so dear!

> The anger that I feel inside I turn against YOU here

> Hepatitis C beware, no longer do we fear!

> For we have lost so much to you

> you parasite inside

> No longer will you rob from us

> no longer will you hide!

> You demon sent from darkness

> dank and burning deep

> we will not let you ever rest

> we will not let you sleep!

> Hepatitis C beware, no longer are we weak

> no longer will you beat us down

> while we have breath to speak!

> The time has come to stop your reign

> of death and pain and fire

> Your use of us is over

> The " knights " refuse to tire!

>

>

> (Copyright April 2000, by LEONA

> all rights reserved...)

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I find that, at times, I will get frustrated and angry at small things like

material things not doing what they are supposed to do - like things getting

caught up or tangled, etc. It is a wonder that my vacuum cleaner still runs

after the way I have treated it. If I stop writing it could be that I have

been arrested for vacuum cleaner abuse. Fortunately the anger goes away

quickly and it doesn't happen with people. I think it is directed toward

myself but I don't know why. Maybe I'm mad at myself for having this

disease which limits what I can do. I experience this mostly when I am

tired and low on energy. I guess I will just have to try and control it

better.

It's below freezing here and the wood stove is nice and warm. :-)

I'm helping a teacher at work with a project to re-establish the American

Chestnut tree. It should be interesting.

Have a good day every one.

Dennis

Re: [ ] Sharing

> Sounds pretty good. Too often my anger and frustration

> ends up misguided against my loved ones, not by a

> conscious decision, but I guess because I haven't

> channelled my anger properly. -dz-

>

> --- EssJayinOR@... wrote:

> > This was on another list and I just wanted to share

> > it with all of you.

> > Reading it this morning brightened up what was

> > starting out being a somewhat

> > dismal day for me. Hope you all enjoy it. You're in

> > my thoughts and prayers.

> > Always, SJ

> >

> > Letter to Hep C, The Mortal Enemy

> >

> > I felt you there since long ago,

> > gnawing at my life

> > draining me of energy, causing grief and strife

> > You robbed me of ability

> > to make my dreams come true

> > And everytime we looked for why

> > the doctors said " it's you "

> > I cannot fault the doctors

> > for not finding what you hid

> > They naturally assumed

> > that you were something that I did

> > The years of working faithfully

> > with patients where you lay

> > exposed me in so many forms

> > Even now the stigma stays

> > But now we know that long ago

> > you snuck into my blood

> > and from that point you reproduced

> > and caused a painful flood

> > I hate you more than words can say

> > how you stubbornly refused

> > To allow me to become myself

> > and kept me so confused

> > The thing I really rage about

> > that makes us so unkind

> > Is the source of all disharmony in body and in mind

> > Dragon will NOT keep causing loved ones any more

> > tears

> > It's YOU the monster that we fight and not our

> > friends so dear!

> > The anger that I feel inside I turn against YOU here

> > Hepatitis C beware, no longer do we fear!

> > For we have lost so much to you

> > you parasite inside

> > No longer will you rob from us

> > no longer will you hide!

> > You demon sent from darkness

> > dank and burning deep

> > we will not let you ever rest

> > we will not let you sleep!

> > Hepatitis C beware, no longer are we weak

> > no longer will you beat us down

> > while we have breath to speak!

> > The time has come to stop your reign

> > of death and pain and fire

> > Your use of us is over

> > The " knights " refuse to tire!

> >

> >

> > (Copyright April 2000, by LEONA

> > all rights reserved...)

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I once read that what separates us from the lower

animals is that we are not afraid of vacuum cleaners.

I find my anger hits me like that too. It kind of

sneaks up on me, I snap, and then get my head back

together. It's not really physical, although I seem to

vaguely remember kicking something a while back (but

nothing that could kick back) -dz-

--- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote:

> I find that, at times, I will get frustrated and

> angry at small things like

> material things not doing what they are supposed to

> do - like things getting

> caught up or tangled, etc. It is a wonder that my

> vacuum cleaner still runs

> after the way I have treated it. If I stop writing

> it could be that I have

> been arrested for vacuum cleaner abuse. Fortunately

> the anger goes away

> quickly and it doesn't happen with people. I think

> it is directed toward

> myself but I don't know why. Maybe I'm mad at

> myself for having this

> disease which limits what I can do. I experience

> this mostly when I am

> tired and low on energy. I guess I will just have

> to try and control it

> better.

> It's below freezing here and the wood stove is nice

> and warm. :-)

> I'm helping a teacher at work with a project to

> re-establish the American

> Chestnut tree. It should be interesting.

> Have a good day every one.

>

> Dennis

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis,

What a wonderful thing to be involved in...re establishing the

Chestnut tree. :-) I am an environmentalist of sorts and really

protect my trees here. I believe in being earth friendly and living

the simple life.

I do some writing on topics related to living simply. I have a web

site called Inkspillers Attic. If anyone is interested please do

check out some of my published articles. If you visit, please sign

the guestbook too. I would love that. :-)

YOu can link to it at-----

http://myinkspillersattic.homestead.com/homepage.html

Writing has helped me get through my depression and anxiety from

another disorder I have (sleep apnea). I am now off of all

medications for depression and I am doing fine. I thought I was

going to get in a depression when I found out I had Hep C. But I am

okay.

My doctor will do a viral load and see where I am with it. My liver

function tests were perfect he said. I still have the disease even

if the viral load is zero. I will know in a few days. My husband

has to be tested too.

I think writing to a group like this helps a great deal.

Below freezing there? Here it is in the 80's. Nice? and muggy.

Raining in areas, but not here this morning. Could sure use it

though.

> > > This was on another list and I just wanted to share

> > > it with all of you.

> > > Reading it this morning brightened up what was

> > > starting out being a somewhat

> > > dismal day for me. Hope you all enjoy it. You're in

> > > my thoughts and prayers.

> > > Always, SJ

> > >

> > > Letter to Hep C, The Mortal Enemy

> > >

> > > I felt you there since long ago,

> > > gnawing at my life

> > > draining me of energy, causing grief and strife

> > > You robbed me of ability

> > > to make my dreams come true

> > > And everytime we looked for why

> > > the doctors said " it's you "

> > > I cannot fault the doctors

> > > for not finding what you hid

> > > They naturally assumed

> > > that you were something that I did

> > > The years of working faithfully

> > > with patients where you lay

> > > exposed me in so many forms

> > > Even now the stigma stays

> > > But now we know that long ago

> > > you snuck into my blood

> > > and from that point you reproduced

> > > and caused a painful flood

> > > I hate you more than words can say

> > > how you stubbornly refused

> > > To allow me to become myself

> > > and kept me so confused

> > > The thing I really rage about

> > > that makes us so unkind

> > > Is the source of all disharmony in body and in mind

> > > Dragon will NOT keep causing loved ones any more

> > > tears

> > > It's YOU the monster that we fight and not our

> > > friends so dear!

> > > The anger that I feel inside I turn against YOU here

> > > Hepatitis C beware, no longer do we fear!

> > > For we have lost so much to you

> > > you parasite inside

> > > No longer will you rob from us

> > > no longer will you hide!

> > > You demon sent from darkness

> > > dank and burning deep

> > > we will not let you ever rest

> > > we will not let you sleep!

> > > Hepatitis C beware, no longer are we weak

> > > no longer will you beat us down

> > > while we have breath to speak!

> > > The time has come to stop your reign

> > > of death and pain and fire

> > > Your use of us is over

> > > The " knights " refuse to tire!

> > >

> > >

> > > (Copyright April 2000, by LEONA

> > > all rights reserved...)

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis!!! I too feel mad at myself..I feel like a disappointment to my family....That's the depression we go through with this but it sure is hard...Remember the song "Tears of a Clown"? That's me pretty often now days.....It'll get better....Oh Dennis.........LEAVE THE POOR VACUMN be ok!!!!! LOL

[Guest guest]

Minna,

*I'll address a few of your comments that I've snipped, I'll let

others with metals experience cover those areas:

> 2) have also read about the GFCF diet this fall. We have started

to slowly

> change diet, and have had soem success with eliminating gluten, and

the

> casein had been easier, since the children have never drank milk,

but used

> soy milk.

*You will probably have to remove soy, also. There is research to

support that soy will produce opiate peptides, also and I've read

many posts from parents confirming this.

The hidden dairy is the most difficult to eliminate... and the

> CHEESE!!!!! it is a favorite addiction of us all..... although now,

the

> cheese we have in fridge, will be the last of it.. no more will

come home

> from town..... and we have had success in limiting its consuption

(daughter

> would ONLY eat cheeese at some times).

*Cheese was the last dairy item I removed, also. Very hard to do

when you cannot use soy, either.

So the second thing we are working

> on is going on a totally GFCF diet, and trying then to add food

items... as

> per what people talk about, and dana's experiences in her

website.

What

> would be the most helpful if we had some sort of a outline, as to

what to

> do-exactly... personaly have much difficulty following something

new,

> without a concrete outline as to what to do... am hoping to develop

one...

> basically what it is going to be is this: once a total GFCF diet

ahs been

> established, will determine one food item at a time to add, and

then see

> what happens... just dont know the particulars, how long to wait to

be

> totally GFCF before adding? which foods to start with? etc.

*Do you mean you will remove gluten and casein, then try adding it

back to watch for a reaction? If so, I would test first with a cup

of milk. I believe lactose-free milk is a good idea to keep a

lactose-intolerance seperate from a casein reaction. I would wait a

few days, then test again. Wait a few days, then test with a small

amount of gluten, perhaps a cracker. Wait at least three days, then

if no reaction, test with more gluten. Gluten takes up to a few

weeks to get out of the system, if you do see a reaction. I would

recommend checking out ' book from the library. It is

called, Special Diets for Special Kids. I liked her idea to start

which I adapted to start with all breakfasts till everyone's

adjusted, then all lunches, then all dinners, then all snacks.

> am quite confused, as well due to the following point:

>

> 3) supplements. having read here, have now stopped all supplements

for

> kids.... they have bcomplex, C, " effalex " (son), which has some

b6, thyme

> oil, evening primrose oil, and tuna oil ...and a multi-vitamin

prior to teh

> enzymes. how long is a good time to wait before starting them

again, one

> at a time........ for mineself, take milk thistle (have a liver

disease),

> along with medicines from the Medicine Healer (a Traditional

herbalist at

> the Native Health Center we are patients at). Am sure none of them

have

> gluten or casein, they are all dried herbs collected the summer

prior.....

* My UNmedical advice to to stay off all of them while you are

starting the enzymes and diet and trying to figure out how your

children react. Then, start one at a time and wait two weeks (maybe

longer) between starting supplements.

>

> 4) the enzymes daughter is taking seem to really BE helping her.

She

> eagerly " reports " on her " good poopies " now, and when she went to

her

> fathers for 2 days, and didnt have enzymes, n ate whatever she

wanted, she

> came back very stimmy, " picky " (she is a picker, she picks her skin

on the

> tips of her fingers down to raw flesh) spaced out and

constipated....

> what have noticed that happened one day, was the meltdown of her

life!...

> she got very very distressed, (itchy skin, scratching herself,

pressing in

> on her eyes, crying uncontrollably, flapping, squirming in her

chair,

> finally running down the hall and back again) this arose because her

> brother gto tired, went to be early, and michelle hadnt had a

change to

> look through her clothing to pick out the next days clothes (they

share a

> room) prior to her brother going to bed. which broke her routine.

She had

> not had such a reaction in yrs to something such as that. Have

attributed

> that to the fact that she is now experiencing everything more

intensely....

> does that make sense?

> Also, son, he tells that he is now able to taste things better.

Things he

> used to say were too weak, (like the powdered juices he so much

craves for)

> now he says they are too strong.. even juice, when mixing the

frozen can,

> had always put 4 cups of water, thinking it was too sweet, son would

> complain, saying it was too weak, now he made it with 5 water! and

asked

> " is this too sweet or just right? cant tell " .... he was not sure if

it was

> still too sweet. does anyone else find this happened? their taste

became

> more sensitive?

*You are seeing GREAT results!!! Since the enzymes are apparently

doing such a great job breaking down the problematic peptides, you

may find you don't have to worry so much about the diet, but that is

your call. The goal of the diet is the same as what the enzymes do -

eliminate peptides. However, it is extremely difficult to do that

with diet alone. My son continued to develop more and more food

sensitivities while on the diet, so having the enzymes work so much

more efficiently for my son was a great thing.

*I am very sorry to hear about your daughter's reaction, but I think

you are saying it was after she was off the enzymes for a few days,

is that correct? Was she better once back on enzymes?

>

> 5) dosing: have noticed that if am giving daughter 1 whole

peptizyde it

> was way too much... she got stomach pains... and immediate

diarrea... now

> have made the chocolate wafers from the enzymes and put 1/3 or a

peptizyde

> and 1/2 of the HN-Zyme Prime in each wafer.

> and by the way, for the parent inquiring about the making of the

chocolate

> wafers, what me did was this: melted on a plate in the microwave 5

> chocolate chips in a pile making several piles on a plate. then

sprinkled

> the enzymes on the melted chocolate, and mixed it all up with a

toothpick

> froze it, and then scraped it off the plate (this is the part that

any

> suggestions are welcome, because many of them broke leaving little

piles of

> 'shavings' which is ok, but any suggetions on making the chocolate

not

> stick so much?)... then the chocolate wafers/shavings are placed in

little

> packs in seran wrap in the fridge. daughter happily takes them and

has

> one.

*I do not give my son the enzymes in chocolate, but I have made

candies in the past for parties and such. I used plastic candy molds

which are very inexpensive. To help the chocolate pop out, you can

grease the mold with some form of shortening - check to make sure it

is gfcf if that is your goal.

>

> well, that is our experiences so far... daughter has been on

enzymes now 3

> weeks, and son only starting to try them on a few meals.. he is

much more

> reluctant to try anything new.... but he is getting more familiar

with the

> idea of having some " enzyme chocolates " ....

>

> well that is it for sharing, and questions... please feel free to

reply

> with suggestions or anything.

> thank you for listening.

*I'll never get tired of listening if it helps a child like mine has

been helped. I hope your children continue to progress.

>

> minna

>

> I try to take it a day at a time, but lately several days have

attacked me

> at once.

>

> Che Guevara said,

> 'above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice

committed

> against anyone, anywhere in the world.'

> This is the most beautiful quality of a revolutionary....

>

> " The nation is tired of false men and traitors who make promises

like

> liberators and who, on arriving in power, forget them and constitute

> themselves as tyrants. " Emiliano Zapata 1879 -

1919

>

> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter "

> Dr. Luther King, Jr.

>

> " when i give food to the poor they call me a saint,

> when i ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. "

> Dom Helder Camara

[Guest guest]

Hello minna,

> Your energy and effort in

helping your

> children is beyond comprehension, by anyone other then a parent....

I will comment on this at the end of the note---- I'm leaving

your text (above) as a reference point....

> 1) after reading much, have come to see that it is useless to

chelate

> without taking out the mercury fillings.

yes-- many sources say it is downright dangerous to do so.

NOT recommended.

> son has 11 !!!!!! yes,

what a

> shame... ( mine own fault, he was a go-to-bed-with-a-bottle

kid...

> ( (wish that had known about that)... so at this rate, it will

take

> yrs of saving to get his fillings taken out.... ( mine own

mouth has

> about as many fillings.... ( luckily someof them are starting to

fall

> out! lol.... and perhaps can find a dentist who will agree to

'replace'

> them due to their age

hummm-- wonder why you say this?? are you hoping to get insurance

to pay for it? I had about 8 done last year, and insurance co

did not question why they all needed replacement. HOWEVER the

non-metal kind do cost more, and insurance will only pay the

amount they would pay for amalgam, since the extra cost is

" unnecessary " and " only cosmetic " (no comment). So it does

get expensive

> (*some of them definitely are 30 yrs old!*)...

this

> leaves daughter.... the only one of us with NO filings!!!!! (mom

learnt

> her lesson, at the expense of sons teeth, to benefit daughter).....

this

> leaves the thought that the ALA is the one that would have to go

with,

> unless can find a doctor who will perscribe the other (whatever it

was

> called).... this still leaves the cost.. how much does ALA cost?

ALA is VERY CHEAP. At least there is something that is cheap

It is something like .10 to .30 per capsule. I'm currently

buying mine from Trader Joe's which is cheaper than the kind

I got before-- but NONE of it is expensive.

Here is some info on how to buy DMSA without an Rx IF YOU WANT

TO. Mind you, I am NOT recommending it, and think it is a

personal choice--- and requires a lot of willingness to learn

and take responsibility etc:

/files/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA

DMSA is a bit more $$$ that ALA--- about $1 per capsule.

Here is some other stuff you might want to read:

/files/Mercury-Autism%20FA

Q

/files/Counting%2BRules

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

/files/ANDY_INDEX

/files/Andy_dose_sched

/files/LOVE_LETTERS

Dana's website: http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/dmain.htm

Okay, now, I am going to comment on the statement that *only*

parents would comprehend the energy and effort expended by

the good folks on this list. I don't know you, and many of

the people on this list don't know me---- so I could potentially

" get in trouble " here on this one--- I will assure you in

advance that I am ***not*** angry or upset with you!

But, for some reason I do feel like commenting on this, today.

I would like to point out to you that I am NOT a

parent and that I personally created all of the files I

just referred you to except for Dana's website and the

FAQ. (The FAQ I only formatted--- I didn't write it.)

(Rita also is a creator of LOVE_LETTERS, I am a co-creator,

and originated the file to begin with.)

The people who DO know me from the autism treatment list

will, I do think, agree that I am quite a prolific/verbose

writer. I can, upon request, point out other similar

ways I have (rather obsessively) attempted to assist

many people learn about mercury poisoning and chelation,

in the last year. Please take a look at all of the

URLs I included.

I assume that your life, and the lives of other

readers here, is/are blessed by many non-parents who similarly

contribute to your life, your children's life and your

family. These people, at least some of them, I presume, could

have some (perhaps limited) comprehension of the effort involved

in a list such as this.

I repeat: I am NOT angry at you. I actually think it would

be " in better taste " if I just did not comment at all.

But I find I'm feeling pretty strongly about it. I have

a lot of pent-up frustration about this non-parent issue.

I would respectfully ask

that you reconsider whether you perhaps exaggerated slightly

out of your *understandable* desire to make a point.

I would also respectfully request that anyone who is able

to refrain from comment please do so--- I really don't mean

to start a whole thread on this.

all the best,

-- Moria

[i'm a presumably-NT adult, recovering from mercury poisoning.

I've been chelating, using ALA only, for 1 year.]

> I try to take it a day at a time, but lately several days have

attacked me

> at once.

I love this

[Guest guest]

hmmm it didn't send to the list

here's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser

/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/twyly\

ghtSkyeSoaps.jpg

Terri

> The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was

> here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world

> inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL

> This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices

> soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.

> Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica

> both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from

> the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.

> Terri

[Guest guest]

Terri-

Those came out awesome! I love that Purple Haze mica.

It's a neat purple!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

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[Guest guest]

Terri, Nice!! Did you use clear MP or an opaque MP?

Thx!

Shaye

Re: sharing

hmmm it didn't send to the list

here's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser

/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/t

wylyghtSkyeSoaps.jpg

Terri

> The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was

> here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world

> inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL

> This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices

> soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.

> Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica

> both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from

> the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.

> Terri

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[Guest guest]

Terri,

You too? You guys are so talented. These are awesome! I love the colors you

picked too. Very cool!

Katy

> hmmm it didn't send to the list

> here's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser

>

/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/t

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> Terri

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> > The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was

> > here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world

> > inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL

> > This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices

> > soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.

> > Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica

> > both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from

> > the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.

> > Terri

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Talented?? I'm so M & P challenged it isn't funny. I've been dabbling with M & P for almost 2 years and this is my first success with anything that wasn't one color or shredded colors with white over it.

I may play again tonight while ER is on... got my soap done for an order so now I'm on my time. I'll post pic's if I'm not a one time M & Per LOL

Terri

Re: Re: sharing

Terri,You too? You guys are so talented. These are awesome! I love the colors youpicked too. Very cool!Katy> hmmm it didn't send to the list> here's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser>/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/twylyghtSkyeSoaps.jpg> Terri>>> > The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was> > here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world> > inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL> > This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices> > soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.> > Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica> > both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from> > the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.> > TerriOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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I wouldn't have guessed it! I did M & P with my daughter once and we were working with those chinese symbol molds. Just trying to get the lettering to look right was too frustrating for me. She does a better job than I do. Has much more patience! Keep posting your pictures. I also loved the lavender/vanilla that Colleen posted. They looked really classy and elegant. The scent sounds really good too!

Katy

Re: Re: sharing

Terri,You too? You guys are so talented. These are awesome! I love the colors youpicked too. Very cool!Katy> hmmm it didn't send to the list> here's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser>/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/twylyghtSkyeSoaps.jpg> Terri>>> > The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was> > here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world> > inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL> > This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices> > soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.> > Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica> > both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from> > the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.> > TerriOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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Terri,

Your soaps came out great!

Dee

-- Re: sharing

hmmm it didn't send to the listhere's the link... you may have to cut and paste into your browser/files/Thistle%20Meadow%20Soaps/twylyghtSkyeSoaps.jpgTerri> The hubby just got home and told me the software for the camera was> here all along just not put on the desktop DOH! there is a world> inside the computer beyond the desktop! LOL> This is my first REALLY successful M & P other than my fruit slices> soaps.... I'm sooo happy with them.> Colored with Purple Haze (-after our Shaye) and 14kt gold mica> both from Terry at SoapWerks. Scented.... well I changed the name from> the FO it's Pineapplie and sweetiest. I call it Twylyght Skye.> TerriOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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> They could say anything they wanted to, but the rest of us were put on

moderated status or kicked off the list for even questioning them. This is a

much better list to be on.

I was on a list one time that was like that. The list-owner's name was Trapper

Oops shhh. He was a tyrant (I still feel afraid to mention his name) he would

rant and belittle almost everyone. He said he was from Alaska. I heard he was

really a nut from North Carolina. It was a bit scary. I don't know why I stayed,

O I remember he was also fascinating. But not worth the abuse. He was just a

bully.

I was also on a (so called) Christian list once where if anyone questioned

anything they said they were kicked off with a poem called " Seasons " Boy were

they afraid someone would actually share their own opinion. I sincerely believe

it wasn't God's word they wanted to share , but rather like Jim total

compliance to their interpretation of His word.

Good for you to get out of there.

Joyce

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, need some advise. My cherub, Bianca nearly 4...awaiting

assessment for autism has trouble understanding the sharing concept of

things. She will grab what she wants from another child and chuck a major

wobbly if we return it back to the child it was taken from. At the moment we

are giving in to her (I know that cant be right) just for peace and I dont

want to do the wrong thing. Here in Australia the schools are on holidays

until february (being summer) so I have no way to contact her early

intervention therapists. Can anyone give me some advice here. I have tried

redirecting her to no avail. Thanks .

[Guest guest]

, you daughter is tonot do with intent but is clearly a thing of the

lack of theory of mind things , she to clearly not understand the other

children's to be to have feelings and is at the stage of development where

she to be to only see self and not others a so tolls and or connected to her

play. This will take some time for her to learn and develop but she to

clearly not be doing it to be controlling and or selfish as these to not be

her motive at all just blinded socially yet to give and takes. Social

stories might help and role modeling but also a thing that can help is to be

to do play with her alone at times and imitate her behavior while playing

and to explain what is going on when this happens, also when she grabs from

you try to get her to ask or gesture she to want the thing you to have so

she can learn to use words to obtain the items and her friends will then not

see her so much forceful of taking things.

Sondra

[Guest guest]

I agree with you 100%.

We use a local independent Radiology Lab

frequently and they will X-Ray my patients standing or lying

Which helps . The local hospital

will also oblige.

I find it is better to determine

true anatomical leg length deficiency after 2 or 3 tx when the spine is more

Stable..

DrBobb

W. Pfeiffer,D.C.;D,A.B.C.O.

P. O. Box 606

Pendleton, Or. 97801

Re: Once in a

lifetime/protocol sharing

I am patient-centered so I have

about 1500 different protocols, which one do you want me to share?;-)

How about this:

I am a big promoter of standing (barefoot

) x-rays of L-spine/pelvis. I see, what seems to be, a growing number of chiros

who use medical imaging places where they lay people down and x-ray them. I

think we should be standing 'em all up. One thing I do on most everyone is try

to get a 'real-world' sense if there is anatomic leg length inequity. If I find

it (and I often do) I also look at their static (standing) navicular drop test

(that foot levelers promotes)...you have to practice doing the test I think to

get good at it...and combine with gait observance for over-pronation (an

artform in and of itself)..... I often find that the low femur head side

correlates to a foot that pronates more....So, in my effort to promote

better function in this individual and in my attempt to

assuage/mitigate/ameliorate/minimize/and/or/obliterate their

subluxation/dysfunction, through 'high-quality chiropractic care' I will

often prescribe the use of one or more of ! the following: small heel lift (I

dont' like to put more than 7 mm in there) and/or inexpensive superfeet green

capsule orthotics and/or foot levelor orthotics and/or visit to podiatrist

and/or visit to shoe-modification guy (he is in SE and his prices are

reasonable, his name is cobbler bill)...in addition to my in-office care. I had

a patient this morn with over a 2 cm LLI which is basically anatomic in

nature...it is bio-mechanically impossible for this to be pelvic torsion. Yet

this fellow used to go to a DC who claimed to " clear out his LLI "

with blocking. How?

So my question is- how could I even begin to evaluate for such things if I have

misleading x-ray studies (or no x-rays studies as in his case) with the patient

supine.

Some food for thot.

J. , DC

Springbrook Chiropractic

& Natural Health Center

1015 N. Springbrook Rd.

Newberg, OR 97132

503-538-0618

www.springbrookclinic.com

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,

Delighted that spoke up as a CI advocate. We need both " hearing " and

" not naturally hearing " people to speak up. It helps people to hear it from

different perspectives. Tell her to not give up. You can lead a horse to water,

as they say, but not always get them to drink it. I'm proud of her!!

M., N24C

w/3G BTE

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who offered sympathy on the recent

death of my brother...it helps to know that others understand. Also, welcome

to all the newbies and continued prayers for those that are struggling with

difficulties at the moment---Fania and Melinda especially come to mind....and I

know there are others as well...I am thinking of you!

Tomorrow will be 16 years old---yikes! But today, for the FIRST time,

he spent several hours with two friends at our local shopping mall. These two

young men are friends from middle school and because they attend different

high schools now, their time together is limited. Both of them are the nicest

kids and just the sort of friends I would choose for if I could...

said this was the best day of his life...LOL! This was a big day for us as

these

kids called HIM to hang out and not the other way around.

Rehearsals for the school play are going well for and he is looking

forward to " opening night " October 24. As for the academics, I guess things are

okay for now. We have school conferences Oct. 9 and then I will have a better

idea of how is doing. But for the time being, he is a " happy camper " and

for that I am so grateful. Although the other night he asked me if I thought

he was " odd " ...I told him he was just " different " and that that was not a bad

thing to be...sometimes he thinks being an Aspie is not a good thing to be

But today he must not be thinking about all of that since he enjoyed himself

with his two friends.

Just wanted to share...sorry for rambling...hope all is well with all of you

and yours...take good care...

Blessings,

Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail,

I love hearing such wonderful news! Happy Birthday .

, Mom to , reflux, hiatal hernia, compacted bowels, asthma, global

hypotonia, motor dyspraxia, SID, Asperger's

[Guest guest]

Happy B-day !

And I am glad everything is going so well. Gives me needed hope.

a

> Tomorrow will be 16 years old---yikes! But today, for the

FIRST time,

> he spent several hours with two friends at our local shopping

mall. These two

> young men are friends from middle school and because they attend

different

> high schools now, their time together is limited. Both of them

are the nicest

> kids and just the sort of friends I would choose for if I

could...

> said this was the best day of his life...LOL! This was a big day

for us as these

> kids called HIM to hang out and not the other way around.

>

> Rehearsals for the school play are going well for and he is

looking

> forward to " opening night " October 24. As for the academics, I

guess things are

> okay for now. We have school conferences Oct. 9 and then I will

have a better

> idea of how is doing. But for the time being, he is a " happy

camper " and

> for that I am so grateful. Although the other night he asked me if

I thought

> he was " odd " ...I told him he was just " different " and that that was

not a bad

> thing to be...sometimes he thinks being an Aspie is not a good

thing to be

> But today he must not be thinking about all of that since he

enjoyed himself

> with his two friends.

>

> Just wanted to share...sorry for rambling...hope all is well with

all of you

> and yours...take good care...

> Blessings,

> Gail

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