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In a message dated 8/24/99 9:21:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SCSullivan@... writes:<< I don't know if there is any truth to this but

I'd feel guilty

if there was..................... >>

these letters are always hoaxes and do not belong on this mailing

list...please keep it in mind and next time consider sending it to your

off-list friends instead Bernadette

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In a message dated 8/24/99 10:22:40 AM EST, BratDet@... writes:

<< In a message dated 8/24/99 9:21:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SCSullivan@... writes:<< I don't know if there is any truth to this but

I'd feel guilty

if there was..................... >>

these letters are always hoaxes and do not belong on this mailing

list...please keep it in mind and next time consider sending it to your

off-list friends instead Bernadette >>

Amen to that ! I hate those guilt letters too Bernadette !

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bless you

BearyPrety@... wrote:

> From: BearyPrety@...

>

> In a message dated 8/24/99 10:22:40 AM EST, BratDet@... writes:

>

> << In a message dated 8/24/99 9:21:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> SCSullivan@... writes:<< I don't know if there is any truth to this but

> I'd feel guilty

> if there was..................... >>

> these letters are always hoaxes and do not belong on this mailing

> list...please keep it in mind and next time consider sending it to your

> off-list friends instead Bernadette >>

>

> Amen to that ! I hate those guilt letters too Bernadette !

>

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Thank you for forwarding me the " dying kid " story. Unfortunately,

the story you sent me is a well-known hoax. I have attached an

excerpt from an article on the hoax I recently read on the

Internet TOURBUS.

By the way, if you do not yet subscribe to TOURBUS, I strongly

recommend that you do. TOURBUS is a free, semi-weekly Internet

newsletter that tells you about the latest Internet sites and helps

you debunk the latest Internet urban legends. I have included

TOURBUS subscription information at the bottom of this message.

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THE DYING KID HOAX

------------------

You have probably seen email letters stating that, in return for your

forwarding an email letter to all of your friends, a certain hospital

or not-for-profit organization will make a donation to research in

the name of a dying child. All of these letters are cruel and sick

hoaxes.

So far, I have seen THREE different versions of this hoax, none of

which are true. The first version says that the National Lung and

Cancer Association will donate three cents towards research for each

time their email is forwarded. Unfortunately, there is no such thing

as the National Lung and Cancer Association.

The second version says that Valley Childrens hospital in Pittsburgh

has agreed to donate 7 cents to the National Diesese Society in honor

of a child dying of ostriopliosis of the liver. There is no Valley

Childrens hospital in Pittsburgh, there is no such think as the

National Disease Society, and there is no such thing as ostriopliosis

of the liver.

The final version says that the American Cancer Society will make a

donation of anywhere between 3 and 7 cents for every person you

forward a particular email letter to. While the American Cancer

Society does indeed exist, no fundraising efforts are being made by

the American Cancer Society using chain letters of any kind. In fact,

the American Cancer Society has issued a press release at

http://www.cancer.org/chain.html

explaining that this " dying child " email letter is " fraudulent. " You

can find out more about the history of all of these " dying kid hoaxes "

in the archives of the Mining Company's Urban Legends and Folklore site

at

http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/bljess.htm

A lot of people who have redistributed the dying kid hoax letter have

asked " who could it hurt? " The answer is the American Cancer Society

who now is forced to redirect a significant part of its time and

resources to combating this hoax. Considering the damage that this

hoax is causing the American Cancer Society, if you receive the dying

kid hoax letter from one of your friends, it would be a good idea if

you talked that friend into making a public retraction AS

QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]===================

The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238

Copyright 1995-98, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved

Archives on the Web at http://www.TOURBUS.com

Join Send SUBSCRIBE TOURBUS Your Name to LISTSERV@...

Leave Send SIGNOFF TOURBUS to LISTSERV@...

Send this copy to 3 friends and tell them to hop on the Bus!

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I just realized that it appears that this is my text below, I don't know who

wrote it, I found it on the internet.

Sorry,

Marta

>From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...>

>

>Thank you for forwarding me the " dying kid " story. Unfortunately,

>the story you sent me is a well-known hoax. I have attached an

>excerpt from an article on the hoax I recently read on the

>Internet TOURBUS.

>

>By the way, if you do not yet subscribe to TOURBUS, I strongly

>recommend that you do. TOURBUS is a free, semi-weekly Internet

>newsletter that tells you about the latest Internet sites and helps

>you debunk the latest Internet urban legends. I have included

>TOURBUS subscription information at the bottom of this message.

>

>------------------

>THE DYING KID HOAX

>------------------

>

>You have probably seen email letters stating that, in return for your

>forwarding an email letter to all of your friends, a certain hospital

>or not-for-profit organization will make a donation to research in

>the name of a dying child. All of these letters are cruel and sick

>hoaxes.

>

>So far, I have seen THREE different versions of this hoax, none of

>which are true. The first version says that the National Lung and

>Cancer Association will donate three cents towards research for each

>time their email is forwarded. Unfortunately, there is no such thing

>as the National Lung and Cancer Association.

>

>The second version says that Valley Childrens hospital in Pittsburgh

>has agreed to donate 7 cents to the National Diesese Society in honor

>of a child dying of ostriopliosis of the liver. There is no Valley

>Childrens hospital in Pittsburgh, there is no such think as the

>National Disease Society, and there is no such thing as ostriopliosis

>of the liver.

>

>The final version says that the American Cancer Society will make a

>donation of anywhere between 3 and 7 cents for every person you

>forward a particular email letter to. While the American Cancer

>Society does indeed exist, no fundraising efforts are being made by

>the American Cancer Society using chain letters of any kind. In fact,

>the American Cancer Society has issued a press release at

>

> http://www.cancer.org/chain.html

>

>explaining that this " dying child " email letter is " fraudulent. " You

>can find out more about the history of all of these " dying kid hoaxes "

>in the archives of the Mining Company's Urban Legends and Folklore site

>at

>

> http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/bljess.htm

>

>A lot of people who have redistributed the dying kid hoax letter have

>asked " who could it hurt? " The answer is the American Cancer Society

>who now is forced to redirect a significant part of its time and

>resources to combating this hoax. Considering the damage that this

>hoax is causing the American Cancer Society, if you receive the dying

>kid hoax letter from one of your friends, it would be a good idea if

>you talked that friend into making a public retraction AS

>QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>

>=====================[ Tourbus Rider Information ]===================

> The Internet Tourbus - U.S. Library of Congress ISSN #1094-2238

> Copyright 1995-98, Rankin & Crispen - All rights reserved

> Archives on the Web at http://www.TOURBUS.com

>

>Join Send SUBSCRIBE TOURBUS Your Name to LISTSERV@...

>Leave Send SIGNOFF TOURBUS to LISTSERV@...

>

> Send this copy to 3 friends and tell them to hop on the Bus!

>=====================================================================

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In a message dated 4/11/00 12:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SeaDoc@...

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<< McCain himself said so, and he by the way, is the only present and former

presidential candidate who spoke openly against the Anthrax vaccination

program.

>>

When did he do this? Does this mean he will be on our side at the meeting on

the 13th?

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In a message dated 04/12/2000 12:24:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

User102241@... writes:

<< << McCain himself said so........>>

When did he do this? Does this mean he will be on our side at the meeting

on

the 13th? >>

Dear list,

Senator McCain's staff was briefed yesterday on the details of the

controversies surrounding this program. Hopefully the illegal nature of the

order will be communicated to the Senator and to other SASC members. Each

SASC member was also delivered a copy of the official House Gov. Reform Comm.

report recommending suspension of the program. The staffers have all the

data and the ability to draw the same conclusions we have and I doubt any of

the men and women on the SASC want to be party to a dishonest legislative

review. The process is working, albeit slowly.

Keep the faith,

Major Tom " Buzz " Rempfer

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At 10:37 AM 04/11/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 4/11/00 12:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SeaDoc@...

>writes:

>

><< McCain himself said so, and he by the way, is the only present and former

>presidential candidate who spoke openly against the Anthrax vaccination

>program.

> >>

>

>When did he do this? Does this mean he will be on our side at the meeting

on

>the 13th?

>

>

I didn't hear that either before - he's a buddy of Cohen - I doubt if he

will be at your side or speak out against the program.

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I heard it directly from his lips the final week of his presidential

campaign in San Diego, CA. He believes a moratorium should be

enacted to allow all sides to contribute on this issue before more

harm may come to our servicemembers. His friendship to Cohen may

have been in the past, but given Cohen's record as SECDEF, many

friendships may have already been broken by his republican colleagues.

Craig

> >In a message dated 4/11/00 12:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SeaDoc@...

> >writes:

> >

> ><< McCain himself said so, and he by the way, is the only present

and former

> >presidential candidate who spoke openly against the Anthrax

vaccination

> >program.

> > >>

> >

> >When did he do this? Does this mean he will be on our side at the

meeting

> on

> >the 13th?

> >

> >

>

> I didn't hear that either before - he's a buddy of Cohen - I doubt

if he

> will be at your side or speak out against the program.

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA wwithin@...

> Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

> Bookstore - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bookstor.htm

> International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine

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This was posted to the list awhile back

San Diego Union Tribune Marelius STAFF WRITER 26-Feb-2000 Saturday At a news conference after the rally, McCain said the military has failedto allay fear about the safety of the anthrax vaccination and shoulddiscontinue its use until it is studied further."I think that there should be a pause. I think that they have not done thejob in educating the members of the military, and I would pause and I wouldget the best scientific and medical people together and make a betterargument than they've made," he said.He added, "I'm not saying that I know enough to say that it should neverbe, but right now members of the armed services, the Guard and reserves arenot accepting it."http://www.uniontrib.com/news/utarchives/cgi/idoc.cgi?554928+unix++www.uniontrib.com..80+Union-Tribune+Union-Tribune+Library+Library++%mccain

ORhttp://www.uniontrib.com/news/utarchives/cgi/idoc.cgi?554928+unix++www.uniontrib.com..80+Union-Tribune+Union-Tribune+Library+Library++%28mccain----- Original Message ----- From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...><egroups>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Please read > At 10:37 AM 04/11/2000 EDT, you wrote:> >In a message dated 4/11/00 12:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SeaDoc@... > >writes:> >> ><< McCain himself said so, and he by the way, is the only present and former > >presidential candidate who spoke openly against the Anthrax vaccination > >program. > > >>> >> >When did he do this? Does this mean he will be on our side at the meeting> on > >the 13th?> >> >> > I didn't hear that either before - he's a buddy of Cohen - I doubt if he> will be at your side or speak out against the program.

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We could always email you alot on here lol

Tina

>From: " Aisha Elderwyn " <aisha@...>

>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Please read

>Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:01:29 -0000

>

>Hi all,

>

>I just found out that we are having trouble with our internet

>provider. Their mail isn't working - great huh?

>

>So all the stuff I posted out to you about the chat room, chat times

>and the rest wont get to you until they fix it - nothing we can do :(

>

>(I'm sending this from onelist so I know you will get it.)

>

>Tina 2nd... you know where the connect to irc button is... well above

>that is a menu. Select a different DALnet server and try again.

>Sounds to me like you have everything else working fine, but the

>server that you originally had just didnt work.

>

>Also the daily chat times were an hour ago - typical huh... was

>wondering why no one was in the room. I have sent out the times so

>you all know the daily chat times ok. But feel free to organise your

>own chats if you are online and someone else is too ok.

>

>If you need more information on anything to do with the irc chat, or

>the being sick list, please visit your members loungue at

>http://www.elderwyn.com/members

>

>I'm in the chat room, so if you are around and wanna pop in cool :)

>

>Hope you are having a good day - I'll get around to reading your mail

>when I get it! *AHhhhhhhhhhhh*

>

>How am I going to survive without email??? AAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

>

>Janalise... GET OFF THAT LEG!

>

>Love you all,

>Aisha.

>

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>I would also make a comment to our pro-vaccines medical professionals.

>They state if the parents of today lived through Polio, measles and

>mumps we would be first in line for the vaccines. I'm 43 yrs. old I

>had the measles, mumps and chicken pox. I was immunized against polio

>in the eary 60's, God knows if I was infected with the monkey virus.

Amen - just visited my parents and asked my mom (who is an RN, graduated

1948 and worked pediatrics ONLY) if she was fearful when we got measles,

mumps or rubella - she laughed and said 'of course not'. She said it was a

normal childhood illness everyone got and did fine. I am 50 years old

(yikes!!!!) and believe me it was NORMAL.

>My mother was very pro-vaccines, she forced me to get the swine flu

>shot. She ragged me non-stop. Well it was the last day they were

>offering the first shot in the series. She was almost beside herself,

>so I got the shot. Within a half hour of receiving it I was deathly

>ill, high fever and nausea. I could not pull myself out of bed.

>Needless to say I did not receive anymore. Not long after I developed

>hepatitis, they really could not determine what type it was.

Oh, my gosh! What did your mother say after all of that? Did she finally

'get' it????

>

>Most of our older population believe that doctors are like mini Gods,

>well maybe 40 or 50 yrs. ago they put their patients interests first.

>I'm sure there are still good doctors out there, but they are few and

>far between. Just look at all are seniors lining up for their flu

>shots.

Exactly - talked my parents out of the flu vaccine when I was there. Also

filled their ears with my other information. My parents had had several

very bad experiences with doctors this past year and so were ready to hear

and realize now-a-days that they aren't gods and many are scammers. One

doctor told me dad he had serious kidney and liver problems and needed more

tests and meds - he was feeling fine so went to another doctor - TOTAL

LIES. I asked my mom if she reported the doctor (her) and she said no. So

they continue on!

>

>Oh well the post is long enough. Thank for letting me vent.

Vent away!

Sheri

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>I would also make a comment to our pro-vaccines medical professionals.

>They state if the parents of today lived through Polio, measles and

>mumps we would be first in line for the vaccines. I'm 43 yrs. old I

>had the measles, mumps and chicken pox. I was immunized against polio

>in the eary 60's, God knows if I was infected with the monkey virus.

***

I'm another " old one " one the list. I had mumps.. the worst part was not

being allowed to go and play! I sat by the back door with this silly rag my

dad tied around my head and chin and wanted only to be able to go out and

play.

I am immune to measles so I must have been exposed but never showed

symptoms. Chicken pox at 11 was a week of fun at home.

I am not making light of these things knowing that some people have gotten

much more ill with them. This was my experience.

PS- I read awhile back that there was a link between mumps in women and

ovarian cancer? I don't remember where or when or whether or not this was

even a real study. Does anyone know of it? Showing that having had mumps

reduced your risk of ovarian cancer?

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>I am not making light of these things knowing that some people have gotten

>much more ill with them. This was my experience.

>

>

>PS- I read awhile back that there was a link between mumps in women and

>ovarian cancer? I don't remember where or when or whether or not this was

>even a real study. Does anyone know of it? Showing that having had mumps

>reduced your risk of ovarian cancer?

Interesting! Haven't heard that.

Sheri

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women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

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, I just did a search of the literature re: mumps and ovarian cancer.

I can't be entirely sure what's going on, because there were a number of

studies which did not include abstracts, so I need to go read them. And the

abstracts were at times confusing themselves. But this is what I have

gotten so far: Although there were early studies showing a possible

protective effect from mumps re: ovarian cancer, that is not necessarily

holding up. There was some more recent evidence, if I understood the

abstracts, that having no children increased your risk and to whatever

extent mumps reduced reproductive lifespan (does it?), and hence your chance

of having children, mumps might increase your risk of ovarian cancer. I'll

try to get my hands on the actual articles fairly soon and report back what

I find after that. Sandy

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is having trouble again....this made it to our list, but not to

my inbox so I'm resending it for cause I already answered her

and now no one knows what we're talking about LOL

Terri

*%# & egroups! I wrote this -- then it wouldn't let me send and it

disappeared!!!

ANYWAY!!!!!

My husband is on a committee for Jefferson County's Rhapsody in Pink--

an organization that raises funds for women in the North Country who

have breast cancer, yet cannot afford to pay for services. Each

September they hold a ball and a silent auction. I've been asked if

I'd like to donate a basket of soaps and toiletries to be auctioned

off. Then, I came up with an idea....our CNY group could also put

together a basket! Great advertising for individuals--plus, it's

just sort of a nice thing to do.

Interested?

We don't have to put together anything right now; we still have

months to go, but I thought I'd throw the idea out and see what you

guys thought!

--- End forwarded message ---

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Sounds like a good idea to me.

The other

Fwd: Please Read

is having trouble again....this made it to our list, but not to

my inbox so I'm resending it for cause I already answered her

and now no one knows what we're talking about LOL

Terri

*%# & egroups! I wrote this -- then it wouldn't let me send and it

disappeared!!!

ANYWAY!!!!!

My husband is on a committee for Jefferson County's Rhapsody in Pink--

an organization that raises funds for women in the North Country who

have breast cancer, yet cannot afford to pay for services. Each

September they hold a ball and a silent auction. I've been asked if

I'd like to donate a basket of soaps and toiletries to be auctioned

off. Then, I came up with an idea....our CNY group could also put

together a basket! Great advertising for individuals--plus, it's

just sort of a nice thing to do.

Interested?

We don't have to put together anything right now; we still have

months to go, but I thought I'd throw the idea out and see what you

guys thought!

--- End forwarded message ---

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G- " our CNY group could also put

together a basket! Great advertising for individuals--plus, it's

just sort of a nice thing to do. "

I'm behind on emails, but I would love to donate something too! Please

keep us posted as to what, when, and where.

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

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[ ] Please Read

Hi Everyone,

I know this is not our usual subject matter, but it is

important & I'm sure you would like to help out.

Kris

If you decide not to forward this, please send it back

to me. This is

an actual petition, and " signatures " will be lost if

you drop the line.

Please take 3 minutes out of your life to do your

part. And be sure to

include other members of your household who are

willing to sign.

Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and it

was heartbreaking.

Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war

upon women. Since

the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear

burqua and have

been beaten and stoned in public for not having the

proper attire, even

if

this means simply not having the mesh covering in

front of their eyes.

One

woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of

fundamentalists

for accidentally exposing her arm(!) while she was

driving. Another was

stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a

man that was not

a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go

out in public

without

a male

relative; professional women such as professors,

translators, doctors,

lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from

their jobs and

restricted to their homes. Homes where a woman is

present must have

their windows painted so that she can never be seen by

outsiders.

They must wear silent shoes so that they are never

heard. Women live in

fear of their lives for the slightest misbehaviour.

Because they cannot

work,

those without male relatives or husbands are either

starving to death

or begging in the street, even if they hold Ph.D.'s.

Depression is

becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency

levels. There is no

way

in

such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide

rate with certainty,

but

relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate

among women must be

extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper

medication and

treatment for severe depression and would rather take

their lives than

live

in

such conditions.

At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter

found still, nearly

lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds,

wrapped in their

burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but

slowly wasting away.

Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in

corners, perpetually

rocking

or

crying, most of them in fear. When what little

medication that is left

finally

runs out, one doctor is considering leaving these

women in front of the

president's residence as a form of protest. It is at

the point where

the term " human rights violations " has become an

understatement. Husbands

have the power of life and death over their women

relatives, especially

their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right

to stone or beat a

woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh

or offending them in

the

slightest way. Women enjoyed relative freedom: to

work, to dress

generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in

public alone until

only

1996. The rapidity of this transition is the main

reason for the

depression

and

suicide; Women who were once educators or doctors or

simply used to

basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and

treated as subhuman

in

the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not

their tradition or

'culture', but it is alien to them, and it is extreme

even for those

cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. Everyone

has a right to a

tolerable human

existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country.

If we can

threaten

military

force in Kosovo the name of human rights for the sake

of ethnic

Albanians,

citizens of the world

can certainly express peaceful outrage at the

oppression, murder and

injustice committed against women by the Taliban.

STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current

treatment of women in Afghanistan is completely

UNACCEPTABLE and

deserves action by the United Nations and that the

current situation

overseas

will not be tolerated. Women's Rights is not a small

issue anywhere, and

it

is UNACCEPTABLE

for women in 2000 to be treated as subhuman and as so

much property.

Equality and human decency is a fundamental RIGHT, not

a freedom to be

granted,

whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere.

1) Giuliana D. Black, Daly City, CA, USA

2) m Nayiny, Palo Alto, CA, USA

3) Sunaina Gulati-Ruh, Palo Alto, CA USA

4) McCaslin, Palo Alto, CA USA

5) Blake Hallanan, San Francisco, Ca. USA

6) Kit , Sacramento, CA USA

7) Kara Myers, San Francisco, CA

8) Ellen Tilden, San Francisco, CA

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Dear Ellen,

I read your post, most unfortunate for this little one, my heart goes out to

any parent going through this nightmare. How old is this child, and how

long since her last chemotherapy treatment? I recently sent a good friend

of mine to Utah to a clinic who practices alternative therapies with good

results, he has cancer of the colon and liver. Young children even do

better with these therapies. If I had cancer myself or one of my children,

I would not hesitate to go there, as a matter of fact I would sell every

last possession to get there. I know you do not know me, but I have a heart

for children and notices like these break mine. If the family has an

interest in alternative therapies, please send them my way, until then

will be at the top of my prayer list, as will her family, many

blessings to you all,

Doc and Dena

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[Moffitt] Update on Thursday June 28, 2001

>

>

> > Good morning

> >

> > Katy and I met with 's doctors yesterday afternoon at MUSC.

> >

> > The tumor has grown back the second time after radiation and

> > chemotherapy treatment for this last year. We were given two

> > options. The first option is to bring home and make her as

> > comfortable as possible and medicate any symptoms that might cause

> > her problems. The second option would be to put her through a high

> > intensity chemotherapy treatment which would include a bone marrow

> > transplant. would have to be in the hospital for about a

> > month. The doctors told us that this option could very well kill her

> > due to her inability to withstand the normal dosages of chemotherapy

> > thus far. The doctors stated that option 2 would be a last ditch

> > effort and that they give her less than 20% chance of survival even

> > if she lives through it.

> >

> > Katy and I are praying about it and we have the child life

> > specialists at MUSC talking with today to see where she is at

> > with all of this. After speaking to the doctors at length yesterday

> > Katy and I are leaning heavily towards option 1. The doctors stated

> > that we might have 3 to 4 months left if we take that option. Katy

> > and I feel that God is in control here. Katy and I feel that while

> > is alive there is still hope and would encourage you to

> > continue to pray for both 's healing and our family to remain

> > strong no matter what the outcome.

> >

> > Thank you again for your prayers and support through this ordeal.

> >

> > God bless

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You can contact them throught the websites. is 10 or 11. She has 2

reare kinds of brain cancer and the treatment for one feeds the other. THey

just sent out a post that are not doing anymore treatments.

From previous posts I beleive this means NOTHING except pray.

Love and Blessings,

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[Moffitt] Update on Thursday June 28, 2001

> >

> >

> > > Good morning

> > >

> > > Katy and I met with 's doctors yesterday afternoon at MUSC.

> > >

> > > The tumor has grown back the second time after radiation and

> > > chemotherapy treatment for this last year. We were given two

> > > options. The first option is to bring home and make her as

> > > comfortable as possible and medicate any symptoms that might cause

> > > her problems. The second option would be to put her through a high

> > > intensity chemotherapy treatment which would include a bone marrow

> > > transplant. would have to be in the hospital for about a

> > > month. The doctors told us that this option could very well kill her

> > > due to her inability to withstand the normal dosages of chemotherapy

> > > thus far. The doctors stated that option 2 would be a last ditch

> > > effort and that they give her less than 20% chance of survival even

> > > if she lives through it.

> > >

> > > Katy and I are praying about it and we have the child life

> > > specialists at MUSC talking with today to see where she is at

> > > with all of this. After speaking to the doctors at length yesterday

> > > Katy and I are leaning heavily towards option 1. The doctors stated

> > > that we might have 3 to 4 months left if we take that option. Katy

> > > and I feel that God is in control here. Katy and I feel that while

> > > is alive there is still hope and would encourage you to

> > > continue to pray for both 's healing and our family to remain

> > > strong no matter what the outcome.

> > >

> > > Thank you again for your prayers and support through this ordeal.

> > >

> > > God bless

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Amen to the natural diet stuff. Can't go wrong there. But what about also

including something called ESSIAC. My understanding is that it's some kind

of combination of natural components. And what about Dr. Burzynski? I was

recently reading about his cancer therapy and it sounds like it makes sense.

He has supposedly had a great deal of success with it. Although the FDA

limits who his pediatric patients can legally be. I believe potential

pediatric patients must have undergone chemo and perhaps even surgery before

they can be treated by Dr. Burzynski. Evidently the FDA wants patients to be

at death's doorstep before they are allowed Burzynski's treatment.

Kathleen

In a message dated 7/1/2001 9:19:07 PM Central Daylight Time,

Resume@... writes:

> I don't know how old the child is, but miracles have happened when a child

> is put onto a natural diet. Some great videos and info on that can be found

> at http://www.hacres.com and http://www.drday.com. Dr. Lorraine Day

> overcame breast cancer and I have three of her videos that are wonderful.

> She was told she had no chance of survival and now goes around full time

> letting people know that they can get well by natural methods. Her videos

> on overcoming cancer, and her newest one on depression, are phenomenal.

>

> Basically those who are very sick are given large doses of fresh carrot

> juice, barley green juice (by the AIM company - which seems to be superior

> to other types) and fresh and raw fruits and vegetables. The Hallelujah

> Acres site also has wonderful books and materials on the subject. There is

> also a book called " Raw Kids " that is wonderful. It's the true story of a

> woman who put her 7 year old child on the diet and overcame severe learning

> disorders and behavioral problems.

>

> I am a firm believer, my own brother has overcome many health problems and

> now feels so good that he swears he will never go back to eating the way he

> used to. They have even put their dog on the diet who was diagnosed with

> cancer and now seems to be doing 100% better than he has in the past 2

> years!

>

> I would highly recommend this to anyone with severe health problems. If you

> check it out you will find that many people who were told they were

> terminally ill with tumors, cancer, etc. have had full recoveries.

>

> HTH.

>

> They are in my prayers,

>

> M. Parish, CPRW* (Certified Professional Resume Writer)

> Career Coach / Business Start-Up & Support Consultant

> CareerPlan, Inc., Premier Career, Business, and Life Planning Services

> TOLL FREE: (888) 449-2200; EMAIL: Resume@...

> [Moffitt] Update on Thursday June 28, 2001

>

>

> > Good morning

> >

> > Katy and I met with 's doctors yesterday afternoon at MUSC.

> >

> > The tumor has grown back the second time after radiation and

> > chemotherapy treatment for this last year. We were given two

> > options. The first option is to bring home and make her as

> > comfortable as possible and medicate any symptoms that might cause

> > her problems. The second option would be to put her through a high

> > intensity chemotherapy treatment which would include a bone marrow

> > transplant. would have to be in the hospital for about a

> > month. The doctors told us that this option could very well kill her

> > due to her inability to withstand the normal dosages of chemotherapy

> > thus far. The doctors stated that option 2 would be a last ditch

> > effort and that they give her less than 20% chance of survival even

> > if she lives through it.

> >

> > Katy and I are praying about it and we have the child life

> > specialists at MUSC talking with today to see where she is at

> > with all of this. After speaking to the doctors at length yesterday

> > Katy and I are leaning heavily towards option 1. The doctors stated

> > that we might have 3 to 4 months left if we take that option. Katy

> > and I feel that God is in control here. Katy and I feel that while

> > is alive there is still hope and would encourage you to

> > continue to pray for both 's healing and our family to remain

> > strong no matter what the outcome.

> >

> > Thank you again for your prayers and support through this ordeal.

> >

> > God bless

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I don't know how old the child is, but miracles have happened when a child is

put onto a natural diet. Some great videos and info on that can be found at

http://www.hacres.com and http://www.drday.com. Dr. Lorraine Day overcame breast

cancer and I have three of her videos that are wonderful. She was told she had

no chance of survival and now goes around full time letting people know that

they can get well by natural methods. Her videos on overcoming cancer, and her

newest one on depression, are phenomenal.

Basically those who are very sick are given large doses of fresh carrot juice,

barley green juice (by the AIM company - which seems to be superior to other

types) and fresh and raw fruits and vegetables. The Hallelujah Acres site also

has wonderful books and materials on the subject. There is also a book called

" Raw Kids " that is wonderful. It's the true story of a woman who put her 7 year

old child on the diet and overcame severe learning disorders and behavioral

problems.

I am a firm believer, my own brother has overcome many health problems and now

feels so good that he swears he will never go back to eating the way he used to.

They have even put their dog on the diet who was diagnosed with cancer and now

seems to be doing 100% better than he has in the past 2 years!

I would highly recommend this to anyone with severe health problems. If you

check it out you will find that many people who were told they were terminally

ill with tumors, cancer, etc. have had full recoveries.

HTH.

They are in my prayers,

M. Parish, CPRW* (Certified Professional Resume Writer)

Career Coach / Business Start-Up & Support Consultant

CareerPlan, Inc., Premier Career, Business, and Life Planning Services

TOLL FREE: (888) 449-2200; EMAIL: Resume@...

[Moffitt] Update on Thursday June 28, 2001

> Good morning

>

> Katy and I met with 's doctors yesterday afternoon at MUSC.

>

> The tumor has grown back the second time after radiation and

> chemotherapy treatment for this last year. We were given two

> options. The first option is to bring home and make her as

> comfortable as possible and medicate any symptoms that might cause

> her problems. The second option would be to put her through a high

> intensity chemotherapy treatment which would include a bone marrow

> transplant. would have to be in the hospital for about a

> month. The doctors told us that this option could very well kill her

> due to her inability to withstand the normal dosages of chemotherapy

> thus far. The doctors stated that option 2 would be a last ditch

> effort and that they give her less than 20% chance of survival even

> if she lives through it.

>

> Katy and I are praying about it and we have the child life

> specialists at MUSC talking with today to see where she is at

> with all of this. After speaking to the doctors at length yesterday

> Katy and I are leaning heavily towards option 1. The doctors stated

> that we might have 3 to 4 months left if we take that option. Katy

> and I feel that God is in control here. Katy and I feel that while

> is alive there is still hope and would encourage you to

> continue to pray for both 's healing and our family to remain

> strong no matter what the outcome.

>

> Thank you again for your prayers and support through this ordeal.

>

> God bless

>

>

>

>

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Hello,

With regards to mercury, has used DMSA in the past with amalgams

in her mouth and had very interesting results (we were taking care of

high mercury in her blood). Several months after using the DMSA we

decided the best thing to do was have her amalgams removed. She will

detox after that using a different product.

Mark and

> I was doing research on myco and c. pneumoniae and came up with a

> few interesting sites and was wondering if anyone knows about their

> protocols if anyone has used them.

>

> 1. www.rain-forest.com/mycopack.htm

> Dr. 1-800-780-5902

>

> 2. www.ovimmune.com

> Dr. Marilyn 740-943-1371

> Dr. Kaminski 847-784-0011

>

> p.s. Has anyone used DMSA or done any heavy metal detoxing?

>

> Thanks

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