AN's Book [Was: sick building symposium conference convention in Los s]

[Guest guest]

AN,

I'd like to repond to this statement by you: 'As for this, " And I

won't support anyone who does " --that's not really necessary, in

my case. What a spot of bother over what people are AFRAID of.'

You know you aren't to be feared but there are MANY excellent

reasons some on this group would be afraid. Including me.

1. This group has been taken advantage of multiple times over

the years.

2. Not long ago someone was re-posting some of our messages

on their web site as if it were their own. There was no permission

and no notice. It was slowly and accidently discovered.

3. We recently had " scott " (not Armour) come on and start

making accusations and offending some of us.

4. About a year ago someone named totally disrupted the

group with outrageous claims of harm and threats of legal actions

and that he was dying. He took no advise, contributed nothing,

and ignored all the efforts to help and comfort him. After he left

here he ran the same routine on some other groups.

5. Most phishing expeditions for products are caught early but a

few get through, creating doubt on what little hard science there

is because of their " snake oil " claims.

6. I've had my postings on this and other groups entered into

evidence at depositions.

7. I've had my written statements in Indoor Environment

Connections, my book, other publications, and presentations at

conferences thrown back at me in a variety of ways including in

the court room.

8. Some on this group have shared intensely personal details

about their bodies and their lives. That type of detail is often

critical to understanding what they are experiencing and receiving

appropriate suggestions. ANYTHING which puts a chill on that

level of participation is detrimental to the group. I've

unintentionally done that at times. And have apologized.

9. Occasionally someone begins posting on how a specific

treatment is the only way to heal and if we don't follow it we are

responsible (guilty) for our own suffering. This is particularly

troublesome when the remedy is religious in nature. It can be a

form of abuse.

10. Finally, this hasn't happened in a few years but we - and other

groups - used to be hit with what sounded like a legitimate,

caring, loving creation of a non-profit to help those most

victimized. All but a couple were legit. And it wasn't found out until

some members sent hard earned money which they couldn't

really afford because they wanted to help.

My intention with you is not to discourage you from participating

or from writing your book. But to help you understand that the

concern and fears expressed here are legitimate and have been

thoughtful.

BTW, I understand you are experienced at writing and marketing.

But there is always something to be learned and the market

keeps changing, as does the technology. I'm always asking

others if there is something new they know. That's what I'm

willing to share with you.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Carl, Exactly, almost. Since I've published and marketed books, that's

not really what I asked you for. A technical review and clarification of

technical aspects that still remain a mystery are what I asked for.

Since a writer's research is based on credible sources, which means

scientific research, expert interviews, etc., that's of course what I mean

when I said, " I've begun work on the research portion, reading and

taking notes to fill in what I don't know. "

If Carl isn't comfortable answering questions, that's okay, too, as I've

asked Armour to talk with me on the phone, and he agreed.

Of course, I may not even need to talk to you, Carl. I'm still reading about

the technical concepts. As I did tell you, though, the technical aspect is a

small part of it.

As for this, " And I won't support anyone who does " --that's not really

necessary, in my case. What a spot of bother over what people are

AFRAID of. As I have said five million times, I volunteered a statement

last month, when I first posted to the group about my book, and first

asked you, Carl, about answering questions and reviewing technical

information. I said: " This list has been a refuge; I have no intention of

violating it. "

Though what this is actually feeling like is less a refuge and more

paintball, with me an arbitrary target.

This ALL should be handled off-list.

From: Carl E. Grimes <grimes@...>

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