Nausea

[Guest guest]

Hi, Rhonda-

Those are classic side-effects of NSAID's, and other drugs used to treat

arthritis. What other drugs are you taking for RA?

Jean

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>From: rparker@...

>rheumaticonelist

>Subject: rheumatic Nausea

>Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 1:12 PM

>

> From: rparker@...

>

> Hi everyone _ I am a brand-new member who began having RA symptoms in

> mid-June and started Minocin the end of July. One of my most troubling

> symptoms is severe nausea. I even vomit occasionally. I also suffer from

> heartburn and acid reflux. My rheumatologist does not think RA includes

> stomach symptoms. Any feedback would be much appreciated. _ Rhonda

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Could it be your meds??

What are you taking?? including vitamins.

Do not underestimate the power of herbal remedies. They are NOT BENIGN.

Don't forget.....strichnine and arsenic are also natural.

Vitamin B used to make me vomit as well as a mineral supplement I tried to

take.

Also, doxycycline used to give me nausea.

Vitamin B3 used to make me flush. I'd get all red like a sun burn for half

an hour.

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The only remedy I used was carrot/apple juice from a juice extractor. And

of course I stopped taking the mineral and the vitamin b3.

Donna

Ottawa, Canada

Scleroderma, Jan.95, AP Oct.97

(My Story)http:// www3.sympatico.ca/mousepotatoes

rheumatic Nausea

>From: rparker@...

>

>Hi everyone _ I am a brand-new member who began having RA symptoms in

mid-June and started Minocin the end of July. One of my most troubling

symptoms is severe nausea. I even vomit occasionally. I also suffer from

heartburn and acid reflux. My rheumatologist does not think RA includes

stomach symptoms. Any feedback would be much appreciated. _ Rhonda

>

>>

[Guest guest]

- not sure what meds you are on but MTX, prednisone and most of the

anti-imflammatories cause stomach problems if you are sensitive. I know a

friend on a high dose of pred. who also takes Prilovec - I'm not on that one

- I deal with the stomach problems pretty well - but if anyone else is on

that maybe they would post and let us know if it's been successful in helping

with tummy troubles.

[Guest guest]

I have had stomach problems for years from all

the drugs for A & PA. I take Prilosec daily and

it has really helped me. I take mtx, folic acid

(which all should take w/mtx, currently on

prednisone - hoping to go off by summer, go for

my second infusion of remicade on wednesday and I

take clairitin D for my allergies.

Nanc

--- TADEL630@... wrote:

> - not sure what meds you are on but

> MTX, prednisone and most of the

> anti-imflammatories cause stomach problems if

> you are sensitive. I know a

> friend on a high dose of pred. who also takes

> Prilovec - I'm not on that one

> - I deal with the stomach problems pretty well

> - but if anyone else is on

> that maybe they would post and let us know if

> it's been successful in helping

> with tummy troubles.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Stomach problems can be solved by taking special coated pills that

allow some medication to be disolved in your intestines. Example

Naproxen is reg and Naprolen is coated. Ask your doctor if your med

has a coated pill.

Good luck.

Roy

:})

> - not sure what meds you are on but MTX, prednisone and

most of the

> anti-imflammatories cause stomach problems if you are sensitive. I

know a

> friend on a high dose of pred. who also takes Prilovec - I'm not on

that one

> - I deal with the stomach problems pretty well - but if anyone else

is on

> that maybe they would post and let us know if it's been successful

in helping

> with tummy troubles.

[Guest guest]

I take Prilosec for my stomach problems. Whether it will help others

depends on what the cause of the problem is. It is an acid blocker so

decreases the amount of acid your stomach produces. I have had stomach

problems in the past and was recently diagnosed with GERD basically acid

reflux. Ot started when I was battling a case of thrush and I had an acid

burn in the back of my throat, Having to go for an endoscopy in may to

check things out.

Lorna

[Guest guest]

>I have been having nausea, mostly in the evenings, for about three months

> now. I have been trying to figure out what's going on (no I'm not

> pregnant.) The only thing I can figure is I've been upping my fat intake

> the last six months or so... more VCO and butter. It seemed to start

> after

> I took Terramin clay for about a week - that could be coincidence. Does

> anyone know what could cause me do be nauseous just about every day?

> Thanks,

> Kim

Are you gluten free? My nausea with morning hunger went away right after

gluten went.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

if you go to the Tropical Traditions web site, they talk about VCO

making some people nauseous...with me, it made me just plain sick,

diarrhea and all.

on the web site they suggest backing up and gradually increasing.

me, i had to to back to 1 tsp per day and work my way up.

something that gives me the same reaction is the garden of life

Primal defense (hso's, homeostatic soil organisms; see Jordan Rubin's

book The Maker's Diet).

it's called a Herxheimer reaction; its a cleansing reaction, killing

the bad organisms in your gut and the sickness is a reaction to the

dieoff.

i might be wrong about what's making you nauseous, but this is my

understanding.

the fact that it started happening after the clay is the first hint.

correct me if i'm wrong, anyone.

laura

> I have been having nausea, mostly in the evenings, for about three

months

> now. I have been trying to figure out what's going on (no I'm not

> pregnant.) The only thing I can figure is I've been upping my fat

intake

> the last six months or so... more VCO and butter. It seemed to

start after

> I took Terramin clay for about a week - that could be coincidence.

Does

> anyone know what could cause me do be nauseous just about every day?

> Thanks,

> Kim

[Guest guest]

> Are you gluten free? My nausea with morning hunger went away right after

> gluten went.

>

> Wanita

>

Wanita-

Thanks for the idea... I've been gluten free for about seven years now...

I'm really reactive to it. I couldn't believe the improvement in my overall

health when I gave it up.

Thanks

Kim

[Guest guest]

> Hi Kim,

>

> if you go to the Tropical Traditions web site, they talk about VCO

> making some people nauseous...with me, it made me just plain sick,

> diarrhea and all.

Thank you, you know I think I'm going to just give it up for a couple weeks

and see how I feel.

> something that gives me the same reaction is the garden of life

> Primal defense (hso's, homeostatic soil organisms; see Jordan Rubin's

> book The Maker's Diet).

>

> it's called a Herxheimer reaction; its a cleansing reaction, killing

> the bad organisms in your gut and the sickness is a reaction to the

> dieoff.

>

You know I tried some of this primal defense a few month back also but it's

hard to believe I would still be in a die off or cleansing mode a couple

months later.

Thanks... food for thought.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

<You know I tried some of this primal defense a few month back also but it's

hard to believe I would still be in a die off or cleansing mode a couple

months later.>

I've been going through all kinds of heavy detoxing for the last three

years, though recently it's been relatively mild. When I got my first

coconut oil (the fermented stuff from WFN) a couple of weeks ago, I had a

tablespoon of it it mid-afternoon, away from meals. That night, even before

I went to bed, I began belching from a huge amount of gas in my stomach, and

the rest of the night I was sleepless from pain and from a racing, " souped

up " brain.

The next day I learned I should only take CO with an equal amount of animal

fat, and when I did that (actually using 1T CO at each meal with 2 T butter)

I had no problems and slept well. I'm thrilled now with what the difference

I feel in physical energy (I've had CFS for over twenty years) and with what

seems to be a real difference in mental sharpness. I originally ordered a

half-gallon and I plan to order a gallon soon. I don't want to run out of

this stuff!

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

For nausea, if it's something I ate that either doesn't agree with me or is

actually spoiled, I take activated charcoal.

I bought some in bulk and mix a heaping teaspoonful into some water and drink it

down. It works instantly.

A.C. is a classic remedy that poison control centers used to tell people to take

if they'd swallowed something they shouldn't have. It draws toxic junk to it and

gets excreted through the colon.

By the way, thanks for all the responses on making your own sauerkraut.

Best,

Nenah

[Guest guest]

Kim,

My understanding is, it's not a once-only cleansing...you have to

keep it up or it comes back.

so if you take the hso's and have a cleansing reaction...you can't

assume you're done. you have to keep taking the hso's on a daily

basis to prevent the bad organisms (yeast and bacteria) from building

back up.

so i could see where you would definitely be having another reaction,

this time from coc. oil, if you haven't taken any hso's in a few

months. know what i mean?

laura

> You know I tried some of this primal defense a few month back also

but it's

> hard to believe I would still be in a die off or cleansing mode a

couple

> months later.

> Thanks... food for thought.

>

> Kim

[Guest guest]

claire,

i'm amazed by what you said. i had no idea you're supposed to take

co w/ animal fat!! may i ask where you learned that?

the stuff we don't know. sally's book EFLF doesn't say anything

about that...the trop. trad. web site says nothing...

i'm so glad it has been helping you...you give me hope! i'm 50, fat,

and have been tired for as long as i can remember and i feel more and

more stupid with each passing year (and this from someone who

graduated summa in biology from college...). i'm not consistent with

the co...maybe i should try your suggestion, so with every TB of co i

take i'll take a TB of raw cream.

thanks so much for this suggestion...

any more suggestions? i so want to heal and get back to as much as

possible my old self...or even better since i've been tired and

depressed pretty much my whole life. bad diet from infancy.

laura

The next day I learned I should only take CO with an equal amount of

animal

> fat, and when I did that (actually using 1T CO at each meal with 2

T butter)

> I had no problems and slept well. I'm thrilled now with what the

difference

> I feel in physical energy (I've had CFS for over twenty years) and

with what

> seems to be a real difference in mental sharpness.

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

<may i ask where you learned that?

When I had such a bad reaction, I asked on the Primal Diet list if CO could

be a strong detoxifier. I knew coconut butter was, but somehow thought the

more processed oil wouldn't be. Anyway, most people on that list are

detoxifying big time and know about causes, prevention, and amelioration of

symptoms. And sure enough, someone had the answer for me.

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

[Guest guest]

Yes. And for some reason, it gets worse during sleep. I wake up all hours of the night queasy, and I go from the bed to the couch over and over trying to get comfortable. Often, I get in a cool bath and wash my hair to make it cool. I LIVE on Phenergen. It's been going on for years. "Chronic Nausea." Between this, and motion related issues with fluid on my brain, it's just nearly impossible to ride in a car. I'm dreading my 7 hour drive to Norfolk next month to see a PS.

[Guest guest]

The nausea could be from so many things and yes, the HRT is a good

bet. I had nausea when I had implants and was really sick with many

other symptoms. It came and went. And it does with detox too so I

can only assume that it can be related to toxins in the body from

the implants whether chemial or living pathogens. Many people with

fibromyalgia--very commonly diagnosed in women sick from impants--

have irritable bowel and that includes intermittent nausea.

However, about a month ago, many people I knew were nauseaus off and

on for weeks--it was some kind of virus. Whether it is related to

your implants or not, if it isn't severe, I wouldn't worry too much

about it.

One of the best things I have seen for intestinal problems is Primal

defense. I have seen it really help all kinds of irritable bowel

symptoms and it kills of all kinds of pathogens in the intestinal

track. Good luck and take care

Kathy

--- In , " leyna1964 " <leyna1964@...>

wrote:

>

> Does anyone else (who still have their implants) have nausea? I

don't

> throw up or anything, but every day the last week I've been queasy

> feeling. Don't know if I have a bug, or it's my implants.

>

> I've had this off and on for several years now...I kept thinking

it

> was because I went into surgical menopause and was trying

different

> HRT's.

>

> Now I'm wondering if it's my implants making me queasy feeling all

the

> time.

>

> Anyone else have this?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think I have IBS.....no telling what it's from. I had it before I went into surgical menopause though.mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote: The nausea could be from so many things and yes, the HRT is a good bet. I had nausea when I had implants and was really sick with many other symptoms. It came and went. And it does with detox too so I can only assume that it can be related to toxins in the body from the implants whether chemial or living pathogens. Many people with fibromyalgia--very

commonly diagnosed in women sick from impants--have irritable bowel and that includes intermittent nausea. However, about a month ago, many people I knew were nauseaus off and on for weeks--it was some kind of virus. Whether it is related to your implants or not, if it isn't severe, I wouldn't worry too much about it. One of the best things I have seen for intestinal problems is Primal defense. I have seen it really help all kinds of irritable bowel symptoms and it kills of all kinds of pathogens in the intestinal track. Good luck and take careKathy>> Does anyone else (who still have their implants) have nausea? I don't > throw up or anything, but every day the last week I've been queasy > feeling. Don't know if I have a bug, or it's my

implants.> > I've had this off and on for several years now...I kept thinking it > was because I went into surgical menopause and was trying different > HRT's.> > Now I'm wondering if it's my implants making me queasy feeling all the > time. > > Anyone else have this?> __________________________________________________

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In a message dated 8/28/2006 7:06:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Brigite,

I'm wondering if your doctor would give you something to put you to sleep for the ride . . kinda like anesthesia.

Rogene

That's exactly what I'm going to ask them. I see both my primary doc and my neurologist tomorrow. I hate to make my hubby drive 7 hours with me snooze in back, but there's no other way.

Thanks for reassuring my thoughts on this...

Brigite

[Guest guest]

Where in your abdomen is your pain?

> Does anyone else (who still have their implants) have nausea? I don't

> throw up or anything, but every day the last week I've been queasy

> feeling. Don't know if I have a bug, or it's my implants.

>

> I've had this off and on for several years now...I kept thinking it

> was because I went into surgical menopause and was trying different

> HRT's.

>

> Now I'm wondering if it's my implants making me queasy feeling all the

> time.

>

> Anyone else have this?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Brigite, I'm wondering if your doctor would give you something to put you to sleep for the ride . . kinda like anesthesia. Rogene

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/29/2006 12:31:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964@... writes:

Bless your heart! Is there anything you've found that you could take to make you less nauseaus for the drive? I lived on Phenegren for a long time, too, till my prescription ran out and since the doctors couldn't find a reason for the nausea, they quit prescribing it for me.

Up until now, at least, my doc has been good about Phenergen, though I've heard from other people doc's get greedy with it -so we'll see. I go tomorrow to see what my doc's ideas are for the drive. I'm terrified! The last time I had to go very far was to a doc in Lexington, KY. It was a 4 hour drive, and by the end of the day I was so sick with nausea, vomitting, and migraine that my right pupil blew up. So, now I have a tonic pupil and retina damage. So, that's another fear with this. I'm lucky, because the damage left my right pupil only slightly larger than my left (not bad enough to look weird like most tonic pupils), but if it happens again... I fear not only the pain and nausea, but also what my pupil would do.

So, everyone just wish me luck!!! I'll let ya'll know what they say to do. I'm hoping knocking myself out would be enough for the trip.

Brig

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In a message dated 8/29/2006 12:33:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964@... writes:

I don't have any pain in my abdomen...it's just queasy, sort of around my bellybutton.

I thought at first it was an ulcer, so I've laid off anything irritating. I've been taking a lot of OTC pain meds lately, maybe that's it.

I've had tests run on gallbladder and appendix-both are normal. They said my liver was a little sluggish, and I've been taking Milk Thistle, which really helps me go to the bathroom-I'm a lot more "regular" than I've ever been at least!

I've had this nausea for a few years now, off an on....

Same exact thing, minus the liver issue and OTC pain meds. It hurts so bad around my belly button sometimes that it keeps me up at night. It's like throbbing about an inch or two under the skin within a 6 inch circle of my naval. (And I've already said about the nausea issues.) They've also ruled out my gallbladder and appendix (I have sharp pains in that area, too, and have been to the ER at least 4 times over in the past several years.)

Weird!!! Weird!!! Weird!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/29/2006 1:29:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964@... writes:

Yours sounds a lot like an ulcer....have the doctors done an Endoscopy on you to rule that out? They're not fun at all, but some doctors will put you to sleep for the test.

I've had ulcers in the past and GI xrays, but my doc didn't seem to think that was my problem. I don't have stomach pain like I did with a peptic ulcer. She's tested me for intestinal bacterias and didn't find anything. She did ask me to get scoped, and I refused... it freaks me out. I know some people say it's not bad, but others I know say it's horrible. So, things like that are last resort when I just can't take it anymore! lol

[Guest guest]

Bless your heart! Is there anything you've found that you could take to make you less nauseaus for the drive? I lived on Phenegren for a long time, too, till my prescription ran out and since the doctors couldn't find a reason for the nausea, they quit prescribing it for me. KissofSadness@... wrote: Yes. And for some reason, it gets worse during sleep. I wake up all hours of the night queasy, and I go from the bed to the couch over and over

trying to get comfortable. Often, I get in a cool bath and wash my hair to make it cool. I LIVE on Phenergen. It's been going on for years. "Chronic Nausea." Between this, and motion related issues with fluid on my brain, it's just nearly impossible to ride in a car. I'm dreading my 7 hour drive to Norfolk next month to see a PS.

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