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Yours sounds a lot like an ulcer....have the doctors done an Endoscopy on you to rule that out? They're not fun at all, but some doctors will put you to sleep for the test.KissofSadness@... wrote: In a message dated 8/29/2006 12:33:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964 writes: I don't have any

pain in my abdomen...it's just queasy, sort of around my bellybutton. I thought at first it was an ulcer, so I've laid off anything irritating. I've been taking a lot of OTC pain meds lately, maybe that's it. I've had tests run on gallbladder and appendix-both are normal. They said my liver was a little sluggish, and I've been taking Milk Thistle, which really helps me go to the bathroom-I'm a lot more "regular" than I've ever been at least! I've had this nausea for a few years now, off an on.... Same exact thing, minus the liver issue and OTC pain meds. It hurts so bad around my belly button sometimes that it keeps me up at night. It's like throbbing about an inch or two under the skin within a 6 inch circle of my naval. (And I've already said about the

nausea issues.) They've also ruled out my gallbladder and appendix (I have sharp pains in that area, too, and have been to the ER at least 4 times over in the past several years.) Weird!!! Weird!!! Weird!!!

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Brig, ((HUGS)) God-I've never heard of a tonic pupil, but it sounds absolutly horrid! There has got to be something out there that will help your nausea! Good luck! KissofSadness@... wrote: In a message dated 8/29/2006 12:31:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964 writes: Bless your heart! Is there anything you've found that you could take to make you less nauseaus for the drive? I lived on Phenegren for a long time, too, till my prescription ran out and since the doctors couldn't find a reason for the nausea, they quit prescribing it for me. Up until now, at least, my doc has been good about Phenergen, though I've heard from other people doc's get greedy with it -so we'll see. I go tomorrow to see what my doc's ideas are for the drive. I'm terrified! The last time I had to go very far was to a doc in Lexington, KY. It was a 4 hour drive, and by the end of the day I was so sick with nausea, vomitting, and migraine that my right pupil blew up. So, now I have a tonic pupil and retina damage. So, that's another fear with this. I'm lucky, because the damage left my right pupil only slightly larger than my left (not bad enough to look weird

like most tonic pupils), but if it happens again... I fear not only the pain and nausea, but also what my pupil would do. So, everyone just wish me luck!!! I'll let ya'll know what they say to do. I'm hoping knocking myself out would be enough for the trip. Brig :)

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I am sorry both of you have nausea. That's a horrible feeling.

Leyna, do you still get nausea?

I know there are anti-nausea over-the-counter medications, that I have taken

before. I

have no idea if they would help you with this, but they sure helped me when I

was sick.

Yes. And for some reason, it gets worse

during sleep. I

wake up all hours of the night queasy, and I go from the bed to the couch over

and over

trying to get comfortable. Often, I get in a cool bath and wash my hair to make

it cool. I

LIVE on Phenergen. It's been going on for years. " Chronic Nausea. " Between this,

and

motion related issues with fluid on my brain, it's just nearly impossible to

ride in a car. I'm

dreading my 7 hour drive to Norfolk next month to see a PS.

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I've had it done 3 times myself...the first was when I was in high school. I was absolutely tramautized by it! lol And then again when I was in my 20's....they told me I would not remember a thing, even though it was local anesthesia. Let me tell you though, that I DID remember everything-I could hear them talking, I could feel them forcing that thing down my throat, I remember gagging and almost puking, and I remember the panic attack I had and the valium they had to put in my IV. So, when I was forced to get it done again, I INSISTED that they put me to sleep, AND give me something ahead of time for anxiety! lol All I remember that time was the nurse saying "Ok, we're gonna give you something to relax you a bit..." and then I woke up awhile later with them saying it was all over with. I don't see how people can say there's

nothing to it, but then again, we're all different in what we can handle and what we can't....and I can't handle much myself! LOLKissofSadness@... wrote: In a message dated 8/29/2006 1:29:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964 writes: Yours sounds a lot like an ulcer....have the doctors done an

Endoscopy on you to rule that out? They're not fun at all, but some doctors will put you to sleep for the test. I've had ulcers in the past and GI xrays, but my doc didn't seem to think that was my problem. I don't have stomach pain like I did with a peptic ulcer. She's tested me for intestinal bacterias and didn't find anything. She did ask me to get scoped, and I refused... it freaks me out. I know some people say it's not bad, but others I know say it's horrible. So, things like that are last resort when I just can't take it anymore! lol __________________________________________________

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Molly, It's not bad enough for me to take anything....just really annoying. I mean, I haven't thrown up, I just feel like I could, but I don't. And yeah, I have it almost all the time the last week, and off an on for several years now.Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote: I am sorry both of you have nausea. That's a horrible feeling.Leyna, do you still get nausea? I know there are anti-nausea over-the-counter medications, that I have taken before. I

have no idea if they would help you with this, but they sure helped me when I was sick. Yes. And for some reason, it gets worse during sleep. I wake up all hours of the night queasy, and I go from the bed to the couch over and over trying to get comfortable. Often, I get in a cool bath and wash my hair to make it cool. I LIVE on Phenergen. It's been going on for years. "Chronic Nausea." Between this, and motion related issues with fluid on my brain, it's just

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Without the liver problems, I'd suspect the over the counter pain meds. One

dose of Ibuprophen can cause gastritis -- something I didn't know until my

gastro recently mentioned it. Gastritis needs time to heal. It's best to

avoid spicy foods and anything that seems to irritate it, if anything in

particular does. You might do a google search for gastritis and see if the

symptoms fit how you feel.

Kenda

> I don't have any pain in my abdomen...it'I don't have any pain in my

> abdomen...it'<WBR>s j

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> I thought at first it was an ulcer, so I've laid off anything irritating.

> I've been taking a lot of OTC pain meds lately, maybe that's it.

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> I've had tests run on gallbladder and appendix-both are normal. They said

> my liver was a little sluggish, and I've been taking Milk Thistle, which

> really helps me go to the bathroom-I'm a lot more " regular " than I've ever

> been at

> least!

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> I've had this nausea for a few years now, off an on....

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> Same exact thing, minus the liver issue and OTC pain meds. It hurts so bad

> around my belly button sometimes that it keeps me up at night. It's like

> throbbing about an inch or two under the skin within a 6 inch circle of my

> naval.

> (And I've already said about the nausea issues.) They've also ruled out my

> gallbladder and appendix (I have sharp pains in that area, too, and have been

> to the ER at least 4 times over in the past several years.)

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> Weird!!! Weird!!! Weird!!!

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I had the scope just a few weeks ago and it wasn't bad at all. I had

absolutely no pain at all. They put me out in a twilight sleep, then woke

me up. If your doc wants you to do it, I wouldn't refuse. It was one of

the easiest tests I have ever had -- and gastritis can be diagnosed with

the scope, plus they can run a celiac biopsy panel!

Kenda

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> I've had ulcers in the past and GI xrays, but my doc didn't seem to think

> that was my problem. I don't have stomach pain like I did with a peptic

> ulcer.

> She's tested me for intestinal bacterias and didn't find anything. She did

> ask me to get scoped, and I refused... it freaks me out. I know some people

> say

> it's not bad, but others I know say it's horrible. So, things like that are

> last resort when I just can't take it anymore! lol

>

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Well, thank goodness you are not barfing! I have heard of women spewing green vomit, and this is an indication that the gall bladder is pumping out bile, which is not a good thing. There is a good chance that this could be just be a sign of your toxicity and of liver sluggishness. A good direction to go with this would be to reduce toxic exposures (drugs) as much as you possibly can, and let your liver heal....there are things you can do to address a sluggish liver, and once done, you can feel great again as your body does the job it wants to. You might want to get a book or two on liver detoxification or liver support. Cabot has a book out called The Liver Cleansing Diet. There is also Hobbs book Natural Therapy for your LIver. I think everyone needs to be very supportive of the

liver. It is one amazing organ for our bodies, and does all that work to keep us alive! Not to be taken for granted, that's for sure! Pattyleyna1964 <leyna1964@...> wrote: Does anyone else (who still have their implants) have nausea? I don't throw up or anything, but every day the last week I've been queasy feeling. Don't know if I have a bug, or it's my implants.I've had this off and on for several years now...I kept thinking it was because I went into surgical menopause

and was trying different HRT's.Now I'm wondering if it's my implants making me queasy feeling all the time. Anyone else have this?

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Leyna, Without teeth to chew your foods adequately, and eatnig a soft food diet, it's no wonder you have digestive problems! . .. Have your ready Rubin's books? . . . He's all about improving gastric health for healing. Rogene

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No, I haven't read Rubin.....I didn't mean to sound like I was totally toothless here....I mean, I have all my front and side teeth-just none in the back on the bottom-I have all my top back teeth though. It's just hard to eat stuff like chips sometimes. God, I know ya'll have this horrible picture of me with no teeth now! haha. It's not like that at all.Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Leyna, Without teeth to chew your foods adequately, and eatnig a soft food diet, it's no

wonder you have digestive problems! . .. Have your ready Rubin's books? . . . He's all about improving gastric health for healing. Rogene

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Kate,

Please let me know if you find something that works for you. I just took my

second dose of MTX and have been having waves of nausea and sweating since I

started it. I figured it was just a side effect.....

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i used too take pepcid ac before the methotrexate . It lasts for 12 hours

and can be bought over the counter . I took the chewable ones[berry flavored]

because they work right away . cathy from ma

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Methotrexate and nausea go together. When I first

start Methotrexate, my nausea was bad. Over time, it

grew less severe. In the begining, it felt as is my

eyeballs were vibrating. When my sweetie or the cat

jostled the bed, it was like being seasick. But I

never puked. Good luck!

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Kate, I can vouch for the fact that it DOES get better. My first

dose, I was fine the next day but the day after that I couldn't lift

my head from the pillow without horrible waves of nausea.

My rheumy gave me 2 suggestions - first, I take Zantac twice a day on

the day before and the day after my MTX dose. Sometimes I take it an

extra day, too, if I'm still feeling queasy.

Second, she told me to try splitting my dose. I now take half of it

in the morning and half in the evening.

I've never felt as sick as I did that first time. Like you, I didn't

puke but I sure felt horrible for about 3 days. It's much better now,

even on a higher dose.

hang in there,

sherry z

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" Any suggestions for the nausea. "

Hi Kate,

I keep a package of saltine crackers in my desk at

work, on my nightstand, etc. Most often it seems to

help the nausea that I have almost daily.

warm blessings,

jane

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hi, when i first started the mtx i was sick also. i asked my pharmacist and she

suggested benydryl. i laughed. but you know what? it worked. and it was safe.

now, a year later my doc has prescribed prilosec. it gets better. its been a

year and 4 months and this was the first weekend that i had energy and no brain

fog assoiciated with the mtx/PA :) casey

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Hi ,

I only had it the one day, I made it without puking. I moved my folic acid

to the evening, although I can't find anything about it and nausea. I take

my second does this Thursday.

It is listed as a side affect that goes away as you body adjusts. So I

pray I adjust quickly, LOL!

Kate

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Thanks Jane! I'm am to hold down plane food during the day, nothing greasy

or Mexican food(i love it). It's just a real nagging feeling, hard to

describe.

Kate

At 08:37 AM 11/13/2006, you wrote:

> " Any suggestions for the nausea. "

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>Hi Kate,

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>I keep a package of saltine crackers in my desk at

>work, on my nightstand, etc. Most often it seems to

>help the nausea that I have almost daily.

>

>warm blessings,

>jane

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Hi and group,

Regarding the nausea, I originally started b MTX about year ago and my

dermatologist had me take 1 pill every 8 hrs spread over a 24 hr period. He

gradually upped the pills over a course of 6 months and I continued to take them

over a 24 hour period. He is a researcher also and doing it this way lessened

the side effects. I also find out that if took them after I ate a meal and

with a full glass of water. the nausea did not occur. Regarding the tiredness,

I still experience it along with the sweats. I was told this is the immune

system responding and not necessarily the MTX.

I have ben on MTX and Humira for about a year and I am in the process of

tapering off MTX as my psoriasis has cleared. I went from 9 pills over 24 hours

to 4 now over 24 hours. I will be going off the Humira, because my

rheumatologist feels Remicade would be better for me at this point becauseI have

PA.

Hope this info helps.

I would advise anyone to go to a teaching hospital if they can as these

physicians know the latest and have the most experience with psoriasis,

psorisatic artthris and rheumatoid arthritis.

Doris

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> Methotrexate and nausea go together.

Hi All,

MTX & nausea do NOT always go together. Yes, many folks do experience

nausea, but not everyone will.

I never have experienced any nausea related to MTX.

Whether or not each person experiences nausea, depends on the dosage,

the physiological make up of that person and also interaction of any

other meds you might be taking.

Granted, I tend to be of the the " cast-iron " stomach type. And I

realize that others may not be as fortunate, if that's what I am..

I can say that anytime I have had a little nausea (rarely) related to

anything, my solution is to eat something, anything. Doesn't really

matter what. Liquids tend not be helpful. Solids tend to do the trick.

Stay WEll,

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Kate,

I have been taking MTX in pill form for almost 5 years now and I still have

bouts of

nausea. I take mine at bedtime with some type of food. Use to be a banana

would

work. Then someone told me chocolate. I did that for a while. I feel the best

when

I eat some yogurt now, but that probably won't last either. One thing I have

finally

figured out though, and that is not to take it with any other medication. If

you take

your blood pressure meds at night, for instance, space them out a little. As

you see,

you have to do a trial and error thing. If you find something that really

works, let us

know. I'm running out of ideas.

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Hi Doris,

I find that very interesting. I hadn't heard anything from any of my docs

about immune system responses. I'll have to ask them about that when I go back.

Thanks for the info!

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sweats being caused by the immune sytem? happy days i thought i was going

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> I took my first dose of MTX on Thursday evening, I took it with a

big

> meal. I had no more fatigue than normal yesterday. Today I have

> nausea. Medline list it as a rare side affect that goes away as

my body

> get use to it. Any suggestions for the nausea. I haven't puked,

yet.

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> Thanks,

>

> Kate

Kate,

I have taken MTX for about 8 yrs now and still suffer with the

nausea on and off. I know that it is a per person symptom. Some

things that help me, I take it at bedtime with Ginger Ale. And have

ginger snaps handy the next day as Ginger is a natural anti-nausea

remedy. I also have a standing RX for Zofran (sublingual)...it is

wonderful and it doesn't have the sleepiness that comes with

Phenergan. It is an expensive RX and some insurances make you fight

for it, but it is fantastic! Best of luck to you!

[Editor's Note: Some people do much better on injectable MTX. You might want

to give that a try. Kathy F.]

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Could be pregnancy. My nausea starts LONG before the test is positive. I

would try to double your protein intake.

For me...nausea equals low blood sugars. Many times it can take several

meals to get it back in balance if my cycle

get out of wack.

nausea

can anyone help me with this problem i have been having: today after i woke

up and came downstairs for breakfast, usual time, i suddenly felt very

nauseous and even having breakfast has not helped.

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