Re: Dr. Shoemaker and off label

[Guest guest]

Read his new book before you jump to any conclusions! Also you may want to

check out the author, Gots, who has NEVER treated, to my knowledge,

one mold patient! Procrit does work and the patient is always monitored.

CSM also works very well for most people. I was extremely sick years ago and

within 2 weeks of taking CSM many of my symptoms were subsiding. First

was the brain fog, headaches, muscles twitches, itchy crawly skin and slowly

the joint pain left. I have GREAT faith in Dr. Shoemaker. I couldn't find

one Dr. in my area that would even listen to me. After endless testing &

feeling like I was dying, I was told IT MUST BE ANXIETY OR SOME KIND OF

VIRUS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY!! SSR

I found this by accident:

_http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medi

cation.aspx_

(http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicati\

on.aspx)

[Guest guest]

Ron Gots of ICTM is a prolific expert defense witness in mold litigation.

He comes to this issue from Big Tobacco, like Bruce Kelman and a few

others of the defensors in this issue.

_http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/_ (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/)

If you search this library, you will find Gots' name in there something

like 100 times, I think it was. Before the ACOEM mold statement came out,

they had a little meeting over this issue in DC. The gang was all there.

Used to be on the Atlantic Legal Foundation website. Can't find it now. Have

it in a file somewhere.

In a message dated 3/24/2011 5:32:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

tigerpaw2c@... writes:

This has been around for years. Do a search on Ron Gots (Quack).This is

the reply Dr.S sent me years ago.

From: Ritchie Shoemaker

_tigerpaw2c@..._ (mailto:tigerpaw2c@...)

Subject: FDA citation

Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:37:43 -0500

I will have the FDA citation follow me until I die. when I moved offices,

I didn't have all my informed consents-the FDA found out and punished me by

making me read 5 pages of Federal Register.

His criticism is an empty arrow. I have had 2 FDA IND approved studies

since and have had 7 IRB approvals since.

--- In _ _

(mailto: ) , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...>

wrote:

>

> I found this by accident:

>

>

_http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicati\

on.aspx_

(http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicati\

on.aspx)

>

>

> A further look and you will see what angle they are coming from and why

their comments are closed.

[Guest guest]

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! Not one local Dr. I went to could tell me what

was wrong. I was so terribly sick I honestly thought I was going to die. It

was the worst experience of my life but thanks to Dr. Shoemaker I was able

to return to a somewhat normal life. I'll never be 100% but I'm 100%

better than I was. Sue R.

I also benefited greatly by Dr. Shoemaker's treatment plan of CMS from my

mold exposure which made me very ill. I was not able to find a doctor to

accurately diagnosed me or give me any treatment plan to get me well. And

the tests he performed were very informative of the condition of my health.

He is an excellent doctor and never stops to find the answers we need to

get our health back.

[Guest guest]

These are defense experts. Check out who we are

[] Dr. Shoemaker and off label

I found this by accident:

http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicatio\

n.aspx

A further look and you will see what angle they are coming from and why their

comments are closed.

[Guest guest]

This has been around for years. Do a search on Ron Gots (Quack).This is the

reply Dr.S sent me years ago.

From: Ritchie Shoemaker

tigerpaw2c@...

Subject: FDA citation

Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:37:43 -0500

I will have the FDA citation follow me until I die. when I moved offices, I

didn't have all my informed consents-the FDA found out and punished me by making

me read 5 pages of Federal Register.

His criticism is an empty arrow. I have had 2 FDA IND approved studies since

and have had 7 IRB approvals since.

--- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...>

wrote:

>

> I found this by accident:

>

>

http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicatio\

n.aspx

>

>

> A further look and you will see what angle they are coming from and why their

comments are closed.

>

[Guest guest]

I also benefited greatly by Dr. Shoemaker's treatment plan of CMS from my mold

exposure which made me very ill.  I was not able to find a doctor to

accurately diagnosed me or give me any treatment plan to get me well.  And the

tests he performed were very informative of the condition of my health.  He is

an excellent doctor and never stops to find the answers we need to get our

health back.   

From: ssr3351@... <ssr3351@...>

Subject: Re: [] Dr. Shoemaker and off label

Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:37 PM

Read his new book before you jump to any conclusions! Also you may want to

check out the author, Gots, who has NEVER treated, to my knowledge,

one mold patient! Procrit does work and the patient is always monitored.

CSM also works very well for most people. I was extremely sick years ago and

within 2 weeks of taking CSM many of my symptoms were subsiding. First

was the brain fog, headaches, muscles twitches, itchy crawly skin and slowly

the joint pain left. I have GREAT faith in Dr. Shoemaker. I couldn't find

one Dr. in my area that would even listen to me. After endless testing &

feeling like I was dying, I was told IT MUST BE ANXIETY OR SOME KIND OF

VIRUS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY!! SSR

>>

I found this by accident:

_http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medi

cation.aspx_

(http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicati\

on.aspx)

[Guest guest]

That is written by Gots, whom long timers are very familiar with. A paid

mouthpiece, I doubt that he has ever seen a patient. He is also paid by Chem

copanies to trash wonderful Drs like Kaye Kilburn, who have spent their lives

tying to show the dangers of chemicals.

--- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...>

wrote:

>

> I found this by accident:

>

>

http://www.ictm.com/Blog/post/Dr-Shoemaker-Now-prescribing-a-dangerous-medicatio\

n.aspx

>

>

> A further look and you will see what angle they are coming from and why their

comments are closed.

>

[Guest guest]

As far as I know Gots has never treated a mold patient and giving

him the title of a paid mouthpiece is putting it was too nicely. I have a

better word for him that is not flattering!!!

That is written by Gots, whom long timers are very familiar with. A paid

mouthpiece, I doubt that he has ever seen a patient. He is also paid by Chem

copanies to trash wonderful Drs like Kaye Kilburn, who have spent their

lives tying to show the dangers of chemicals.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> As far as I know Gots has never treated a mold patient and giving

> him the title of a paid mouthpiece is putting it was too nicely. I have a

> better word for him that is not flattering!!!

>

And my point woud be that when someone looks up stuff on the net, mold,

chemicals,mcs, cfs, etc that what unfortunately comes up is quackwatch or this

crap. We know it is lies and why it is written. But when a friend looks up mcs

or mold injuries and finds this they conclude the same thing " somatization,

malingerinig, etc " and it is there for attorneys and doctors to cite.

It is almost exactly what my doctor, Dr. Seltzer from UC Irvine said in the

report to my md. SO he has lots of back-up for his lies and it is then my work

and effort to get my doctor to see the truth.

And yes, she is what I would deem worth saving. Dr. Rashidi in Upland will do

what she can but knows nothing about my condition although she now has a bigger

file on me than anyone else she has ever seen.

So maybe I should not look at this anymore? Save my sanity.

Meredith