Eggs

[Guest guest]

When I was little I used to eat eggs. Hard boiled, poached, no

problems. But then when I was about 6 or 7 years old I started

getting really bad nausia that lasted for hours after eating eggs

cooked in these ways.

Curiously I was fine eating quiche, or other things that used eggs as

an ingredient like when baking cakes etc. But apart from these ways

of using eggs, I avoided them.

Once I started Bee's candida diet I decided I would try to

incorporate eggs into my diet again after about 25 years. I tried

whisking them into soup, adding them to beef or turkey mince to make

burger patties, and whilst I didnt get the same severe reaction I had

as a child, I still felt a little nautious after eating them,

especially with the soup.

Finally a friend pointed out to me that most people who

are " allergic " to eggs are allergic to the egg white (the proteins in

the egg whites in particular), not the yolk. So the next day I had my

same soup and only whisked in some egg yolks, and low and behold, no

nausia, and I havent experienced any nausia with egg yolks since.

I havent been brave enough to try them raw or just the cooked egg

yolk by itself yet, but getting eggs back into my diet has to be a

good thing.

You can only conclude that there is something in the egg whites that

doesnt sit well with my body (presumeably the proteins in the egg

white). I dont know if my nausia classifies as an allergic reaction

or not, or if it was inhibiting my digestion or preventing my gut

from healing, but I cant ignore that my body is telling me it doesnt

want me to eat egg whites. So I wont. Thankfully most of the good

stuff is in the yolk, so I am still getting most of the benefits of

eggs.

If anyone else gets an upset stomach after eating eggs, you might be

able to solve this dilemma in a similar way.

Nick.

> I have read several articles that if we continue to eat eggs the gut

> will never heal and we will never get rid of the yeast. Eggs are an

> allergic component. Several articles written by MD and also

> alternative practioners. What do you think Bee?

> Deb

[Guest guest]

How many eggs per day is it safe to eat?

Especially for someone just starting out??

Should I just start with 3 - 4 eggs per week? And then work my way up? -->

Up to what?

I really like the raw egg drink.... it's very very yummy =)

*My personal opinion on using eggs is this: Think about hunters and

gatherers. I think that eggs would have been eaten raw quite often -- I

think hunting and gathering humans would have been stealing eggs from

various sources (wild geese, chickens, etc) whenever they could have. And I

bet a lot of times would have just eaten it raw on the spot -- and not have

bothered to save it for cooking over a fire.... after all -- eggs are

breakable -- and humans probably just ate what they could when they could.*

**

*==> what do you think, Bee?* Do you think my common sense approach has any

truth?

Thanks,

On 5/12/07, npt747 <npt747@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> When I was little I used to eat eggs. Hard boiled, poached, no

> problems. But then when I was about 6 or 7 years old I started

> getting really bad nausia that lasted for hours after eating eggs

> cooked in these ways.

>

> Curiously I was fine eating quiche, or other things that used eggs as

> an ingredient like when baking cakes etc. But apart from these ways

> of using eggs, I avoided them.

>

> Once I started Bee's candida diet I decided I would try to

> incorporate eggs into my diet again after about 25 years. I tried

> whisking them into soup, adding them to beef or turkey mince to make

> burger patties, and whilst I didnt get the same severe reaction I had

> as a child, I still felt a little nautious after eating them,

> especially with the soup.

>

> Finally a friend pointed out to me that most people who

> are " allergic " to eggs are allergic to the egg white (the proteins in

> the egg whites in particular), not the yolk. So the next day I had my

> same soup and only whisked in some egg yolks, and low and behold, no

> nausia, and I havent experienced any nausia with egg yolks since.

>

> I havent been brave enough to try them raw or just the cooked egg

> yolk by itself yet, but getting eggs back into my diet has to be a

> good thing.

>

> You can only conclude that there is something in the egg whites that

> doesnt sit well with my body (presumeably the proteins in the egg

> white). I dont know if my nausia classifies as an allergic reaction

> or not, or if it was inhibiting my digestion or preventing my gut

> from healing, but I cant ignore that my body is telling me it doesnt

> want me to eat egg whites. So I wont. Thankfully most of the good

> stuff is in the yolk, so I am still getting most of the benefits of

> eggs.

>

> If anyone else gets an upset stomach after eating eggs, you might be

> able to solve this dilemma in a similar way.

>

> Nick.

>

> > I have read several articles that if we continue to eat eggs the gut

> > will never heal and we will never get rid of the yeast. Eggs are an

> > allergic component. Several articles written by MD and also

> > alternative practioners. What do you think Bee?

> > Deb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> How many eggs per day is it safe to eat? Especially for someone

just starting out?? Should I just start with 3 - 4 eggs per week?

And then work my way up? --> Up to what?

==>You can eat as many eggs per day as you wish. About 3 years ago I

had a 2nd bout with candida after 18 years, and I had 8 eggs per day

in the egg drink. There is an article in the files about a man who

was very healthy on 25 eggs per day:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/eggs1.php

==>If you have healing reactions to the eggs you might want to start

with 1 egg per day and gradually increase it, and you also should

start with small amounts of butter and coconut oil.

>

> I really like the raw egg drink.... it's very very yummy =)

>

> *My personal opinion on using eggs is this: Think about hunters and

> gatherers. I think that eggs would have been eaten raw quite

often -- I think hunting and gathering humans would have been

stealing eggs from various sources (wild geese, chickens, etc)

whenever they could have. And I bet a lot of times would have just

eaten it raw on the spot -- and not have bothered to save it for

cooking over a fire.... after all -- eggs are breakable -- and humans

probably just ate what they could when they could.*

> **

> *==> what do you think, Bee?* Do you think my common sense

approach has any truth?

==>Yes . I agree with your common sense approach. You

are " right on! " Also they wouldn't have stopped to get rid of the

egg whites first. LOL! Most animals eat the eggshells too. There's

a recipe on my website for making Eggshell Calcium Citrate.

Bee

P.S. , please trim your messages - see our Group Files (left

menu) - it's in the Candida Group Info folder. Thanks a bunch.

[Guest guest]

I have a problem with the egg and meat theory because I don't beleive my

ancestors came from cave men types. Even Gorillas I understand are

vegies. I beleive in the garden of Eden theory, where Adam and Eve ate

fruit and vegies. and roots and that death was introduced later as a

result of error (sin) and was not desireable. This does not mean

however, that I am not willing to compromise as much as possible for me

on the diet 8:>)) in order to get well. What ever it takes if I can

TOLERATE it. I cannot tolerate red meat, pork or cows that is, and

eggs SEEM to feed the bad bacteria in the gut which I also noticed when

I fed it to my doves as their droppings would turn all muckey had more

bacteria when tested by the state lab.

Steph

[Guest guest]

I personally believe in the garden of eden story too! But after the

fall we were allowed to eat animal foods like meats. Jesus ate meat

also. I would say that we most definitely do need eggs and meat as

part of our diet now. I have seen some people who do not eat any

animal foods and quite honestly, they often look bloodless and sick.

Not all, but the ones ive seen do.

Things are not quite what they were before the fall at all, so much

has changed. As a bible believing christian, I'm all for eggs,

meats, fish that is low in mercury, and yoghurt with good bacteria,

vegetables and limited fruit, limited soaked grains/nuts and good

fats. For us candida folks, the fruit, nuts and grains and dairy are

off the menu until we get well and even then cautiously added back on

a limited basis.

Sometimes i actually survive just on eggs and meat some days and no

vegetables cause im too tired. I find I do find on even that,though

i'd not recommend doing away with veges, im just making a point that

the worst stuff is sugar and high carbs for someone with this

condition.

Adam.

> I have a problem with the egg and meat theory because I don't

beleive my

> ancestors came from cave men types. Even Gorillas I understand are

> vegies. I beleive in the garden of Eden theory, where Adam and

Eve ate

> fruit and vegies. and roots and that death was introduced later as a

> result of error (sin) and was not desireable. This does not mean

> however, that I am not willing to compromise as much as possible

for me

> on the diet 8:>)) in order to get well. What ever it takes if I

can

> TOLERATE it. I cannot tolerate red meat, pork or cows that is, and

> eggs SEEM to feed the bad bacteria in the gut which I also noticed

when

> I fed it to my doves as their droppings would turn all muckey had

more

> bacteria when tested by the state lab.

>

> Steph

>

[Guest guest]

PS Steph, I believe there were cavemen types, anybody can live the

same lifestyle today and some do. I don't believe in evolution, but

certainly believe there were cavemen and believe there are cavemen

still around. Only takes one generation for any human being to

become uncivilised. if you want to call it that. reverting very much

to a very raw diet of basic plants, and animals foods. There are

human beings today lively very roughtly and naturally and others

living in posh surroundings.

I sure believe that many ended up living that way as a consequence of

the fall.

Adam.

>

> I have a problem with the egg and meat theory because I don't

beleive my

> ancestors came from cave men types. Even Gorillas I understand are

> vegies. I beleive in the garden of Eden theory, where Adam and

Eve ate

> fruit and vegies. and roots and that death was introduced later as a

> result of error (sin) and was not desireable. This does not mean

> however, that I am not willing to compromise as much as possible

for me

> on the diet 8:>)) in order to get well. What ever it takes if I

can

> TOLERATE it. I cannot tolerate red meat, pork or cows that is, and

> eggs SEEM to feed the bad bacteria in the gut which I also noticed

when

> I fed it to my doves as their droppings would turn all muckey had

more

> bacteria when tested by the state lab.

>

> Steph

>

[Guest guest]

I am new to this group. My daughter has been GFCF for 4 months and has improved

slightly on the diet. I have done an IGG/IGE Test and she has an IGG for Dairy

family, Wheat family, and Eggs. I really don't want to have to eliminate eggs

from her diet. Are there any enzymes that can be used for eggs?

TIA,

Aimee

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[Guest guest]

>> I am new to this group. My daughter has been GFCF for 4 months and has

improved

slightly on the diet. I have done an IGG/IGE Test and she has an IGG for Dairy

family, Wheat

family, and Eggs. I really don't want to have to eliminate eggs from her diet.

Are there any

enzymes that can be used for eggs?

A common denominator among those three food groups is protein digestion. Eggs

can

benefit from whatever protease product you use for the diary and wheat foods.

GlutenEase,

Peptizyde, Peptidase Complete, etc.

If you find that egg yolks present a reaction different than egg whites,

consider fat digestion

or other elements that only occur in the yolk.

.

[Guest guest]

Thank you.

Re: Eggs

>> I am new to this group. My daughter has been GFCF for 4 months and has

improved

slightly on the diet. I have done an IGG/IGE Test and she has an IGG for Dairy

family, Wheat

family, and Eggs. I really don't want to have to eliminate eggs from her diet.

Are there any

enzymes that can be used for eggs?

A common denominator among those three food groups is protein digestion. Eggs

can

benefit from whatever protease product you use for the diary and wheat foods.

GlutenEase,

Peptizyde, Peptidase Complete, etc.

If you find that egg yolks present a reaction different than egg whites,

consider fat digestion

or other elements that only occur in the yolk.

.

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>

> Eggs aren't so easily digestable for me and sometimes my son and I

get sinusitis after eating them. I am an egg eater though. I'm

wondering if maybe it's the cooking oil we cook them in. I've run out

of coconut oil and I've been using grapeseed oil because it's pretty

inexpensive. I also use olive oil.~kulia

Eggs contain suplhur, a natural antifungal. And our bodies create

mucus to carry toxins out...that might explain your sinusitis as a

healing symptom. You could cook them in butter or poach them in water,

soft-boil them in water or try Bee's raw egg drink. Susie

[Guest guest]

>

> Eggs aren't so easily digestable for me and sometimes my son and I

get

> sinusitis after eating them. I am an egg eater though. I'm wondering

> if maybe it's the cooking oil we cook them in. I've run out of

coconut

> oil and I've been using grapeseed oil because it's pretty

inexpensive.

> I also use olive oil.~kulia

==>Do not use grapeseed oil. It would be better to cook them in 50/50

mix of olive oil and butter, even though olive oil isn't good for

cooking. Or use bacon drippings or lard (if you can get it).

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee!

>     My question is this.  Can you just scramble your eggs in alittle

butte or have boiled eggs with the coconut  oil in the morning instead

of the egg drink?

Hi Charise. Welcome to our group. Yes, you can have eggs and not have

the Egg Drink. Egg yolks retain their nutrients if they remain runny,

since overheating destroys nutrients. Have them soft boiled, poached,

basted, or easy over rather than scrambled or boiled.

Bee

[Guest guest]

i say that sounds like a nice typical response!

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From: alaine0617 <alaineandpaul@...>

Subject: Eggs

Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:54 PM

Great egg/excema discussion! We stopped egg substitute about 3 weeks

ago. Still seeing mild excema, but less than usual. Interesting

development - last Friday, Saturday, this Monday and today, had a

meltdown each day (this is VERY unusual for him). Each precipitated by

something he wanted but couldn't have or something he wanted to do but

couldn't. Red faced, angry voice, foot stomping for several minutes.

The last three times, he actually timed himself out, going on his own

to his room or to a chair away from the group. Then, after a few

minutes he rejoined us and everything was fine. Detoxing from the egg

substitute? Fog lifting? What do you think?

[Guest guest]

>

> Is it necessary to eat lots of eggs per day or is 3 ok?

> thank you!

> erika

It's fine to eat three eggs. I only eat two eggs per day in my morning egg

drink. You don't need to eat more of them to heal.

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Is it necessary to eat lots of eggs per day or is 3 ok?

> > thank you!

> > erika

>

>Hello . Like wrote you don't " need " to eat eggs to heal. Bee suggests

eating eggs because they are one of nature's super foods that give your body

nutrients it needs and they are antifungal. So it is just a suggestion.

Marisa

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I just had a quick question regarding expiration dates....i have several

cartons of organic, free range eggs that expire on the 15th...can i use them

safely past the expiration date, and if so, how long?

>

> thanks! Judy

>

You should be able to with no worries. If you are in question, put the egg in

water. If it floats throw it away. if it sinks, eat away

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I just had a quick question regarding expiration dates....i have several

cartons of organic, free range eggs that expire on the 15th...can i use them

safely past the expiration date, and if so, how long?

+++Hi Judy. Yes, they should be okay - crack open each egg separately into a

bowl so you can see if it is okay before using it.

Bee

[Guest guest]

You cannot be allergic to eggs. You can have healing reactions to consuming

eggs, since they are anti-fungal.

As far as eggs being " high in cholesterol " , here are some facts:

" A 2007 study of 9,500 people reported in Medical Science Monitor showed that

eating one or two eggs a day did not increase the risk of heart disease or

stroke among healthy adults. The study noted that eating eggs may actually be

associated with a decrease in blood pressure. "

" A six-week study conducted by researchers at the Yale Prevention Research

Center in 2005 showed that adding two eggs a day to a healthful diet did not

significantly increase blood cholesterol levels in young or middle-aged men and

women with normal or even moderately elevated blood cholesterol levels. "

Though these studies are based on the consumption of about two eggs per day, it

would appear that the good cholesterol in eggs actually LOWERS bad cholesterol.

It's basically like the margarine myth. Margarine is " low in cholesterol " and

yet it's been proven to raise bad cholesterol. Go figure.

In the end Father God, and Mother nature know best.

Regards,

Cordell

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I don't there is any truth to what you are reading. It doesn't seem possible

that people could suddenly develop an " allergy " to eggs from eating too many.

As you said, there was nothing to back up those outrageous claims, so just

ignore it.

Eggs contain sulphur, so they are very healing, especially for candida sufferers

(since we are sick). I think that book you read is probably confusing a

*healing* reaction with an *allergic* reaction. Many of those authors don't

understand that they body will have to detox in order to get well, so they say

to stay away from things that cause any type of reaction. Don't believe them -

they are way off.

Your son is getting a healing reaction from the eggs, which, in his case, is

causing some itching. It's nothing to worry about. In fact, the itching means

that toxins are being let out through the skin.

The whole cholesterol theory is way off, too. Check out Dr. Ravnskov's research

on that. He says that cholesterol is actually healthy and necessary for the

body and that it can't be affected by food. It's just pharmaceutical

researchers who want to sell more drugs who have skewed the results to make us

believe that cholesterol is bad for us.

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

Hope that helps! You are doing the right thing by eating eggs!

>

<snip>

>

> However, I have read and heard repeatedly that having this many eggs can

" develop an allergy " . How could this be, and is there any truth to this? I

also read in another candida book that eggs are very bad for candida, but it

offered no back up to that statement.

>

<snip>

> Just looking to shoot these theories to the mud because I am now very

dependent upon eggs to get the family by.

>

> Thanks,

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I know it is said here that eggs are most nature's perfect food and you can't

have too many. I am trusting this whole heartedly as I have two semi-raw eggs

every morning in my egg drink and serve 4-5 eggs to each one of my kids every

day.

>

> However, I have read and heard repeatedly that having this many eggs can

" develop an allergy " . How could this be, and is there any truth to this? I

also read in another candida book that eggs are very bad for candida, but it

offered no back up to that statement.

>

> I accidentally made a comment that my son had 5 eggs for breakfast to his

teacher and she gasped at the cholesterol. My husband is worried about the kids

having so many eggs each day, and the last thing I need is to create an allergy.

This morning my son said his legs itched after breakfast and it made me think

more about this.

>

> Just looking to shoot these theories to the mud because I am now very

dependent upon eggs to get the family by.

+++Hi Amy. 's reply to you was excellent. I want to add that our bodies

are designed to consume Mother Nature's foods in order to be healthy, so it is

impossible to have allergies to them, or even build up allergic reactions by

eating a lot of them. If that were true, back when people didn't have

transportation and could only access foods in their immediate area, meaning they

had to eat the same foods day in and day out, they would have been sick and

forced to to move.

Like wrote, eggs cause " healing reactions " which is a good thing.

Here's a man who ate 25 soft boiled eggs per day yet his cholesterol was low:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/eggs1.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Where did you get the nutritional info? Is there a label on the egg carton?

I'm just curious because I buy my eggs from a local farmer and have no way of

knowing their specific nutritional breakdown.

jackie

>

> Hi Bee and group, Today I decided to compare the nutrional differences between

my cage free, organic eggs and my dad's conventional eggs. To my surprise his

have greater nutritional value. His $1.49 eggs have 2% more vitamin A than my

organic $4.49 ones. How could this be?

>

> kelly

>

[Guest guest]

*** Hi :

My first thought is that the feed the " conventional " chickens are fed with may

contain supplements, and so the Vitamin A could be from an additive in their

feed. And I doubt whether the label lists whether the source of the Vitamin A

is vegetal (like carotene) or from fish liver oil (like our " A " is).

I have seen a lot of eggs lately at my Coop that list their high Omega fats on

the label, but I assume this is from feeding the chickens soy feed that has

supplements added to it.

Bee has said that we should get the best eggs we can afford because the

nutritional profile will be better, but that even conventionally raised eggs

have nutritional value. However, you might try to research what the nutritional

values in a traditionally raised egg should be ( by that, I mean an egg from a

farm-raised chicken that can peck in the grass for bugs) and see what the

profile is. I wonder what the level of Vitamin " A " would be in those eggs.

Compare the values of the " traditional " egg to the " conventional " egg. If the

conventional egg has more " A " than what a traditional egg has, then you can be

sure it's from vitamins in the feed.

Another thing to consider is that more Vitamin A is not necessarily better,

since Bee always states that ratios are most important. I don't mean you are

throwing your ratios off by eating a conventional egg, merely that the profile

has probably been doctored with.

Marissa

> Hi Bee and group, Today I decided to compare the nutrional differences between

my cage free, organic eggs and my dad's conventional eggs. To my surprise his

have greater nutritional value. His $1.49 eggs have 2% more vitamin A than my

organic $4.49 ones. How could this be?

>

> kelly

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi ,

>

> Where did you get the nutritional info? Is there a label on the egg carton?

>

> I'm just curious because I buy my eggs from a local farmer and have no way of

knowing their specific nutritional breakdown.

>

> jackie

>

>Hi Jackie, Yes, I went by the nutritional content on the box. The conventional

egg ratio is 8% vit a, 4%calcium, 6%iron. The organic cage free egg ratio is 6%

vitamin a, 2% calcium, 4-6% iron.

kelly

[Guest guest]

>

> >Hi Jackie, Yes, I went by the nutritional content on the box. The

conventional egg ratio is 8% vit a, 4%calcium, 6%iron. The organic cage free egg

ratio is 6% vitamin a, 2% calcium, 4-6% iron.

>

+++kelly, it shouldn't matter to you whether there is a difference since the

organic cage free eggs are healthier and more natural.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Discovering your website has been a blessing. I just started your candida diet

and was wondering if it's okay to eat eggs everyday although they say it can

cause high cholesteral. I've been having eggs with some cooked vegetables every

morning such as kale, I'm wondering if you may have other suggestions for

breakfast options.

>

+++Hi . Please ensure you read my candida article carefully because it

explains that the cholesterol theory is totally false. Also here's a man who

consumed 25 soft boiled eggs a day and yet his cholesterol was low:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/eggs1.php

You can have as many eggs as your heart desires. They are Nature's most perfect

food.

I suggest everyone have Bee's Egg Drink for breakfast, since it is a good way to

start on butter, and coconut oil:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe167.php

All the best, Bee