Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 WAHOOO!! Some people are listening!!!! Wikipedia I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 cool... > > > I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on > August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 > > > I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on > August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide> > Needs a little work, but it's a good start. If I have time, perhaps I give it a stab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hot damn! We've come a long way baby! Hang in their 007 and everyone else! Perhaps those still in the heat of battle need to copy those old classic mindwashing posts of Dr. Skipper and others to contrast the current articles that are circulating. A good lawyer should be able to see how damaging the original articles were in effecting how the boards use this test! I bet you those old posts and articles will be hard to find. I imagine some have pulled them off the net to prevent further scrutiny! We should pool together all the articles that we have saved that boasted the EtG wonder test for the " absolute proof " of alcohol consumption. Man, maybe we all should contact a local fellow named Fred Levin, Attorney at Law, that lives in my community! Fred Levin is one of the richest lawyers in the nation concerning personal injury and civil procedure! In fact, I know we should contact him! I'll work on contacting him, perhaps this weekend I'll boat on over to his dock at his plush estate! I'll act like I'm having engine trouble! Seeriously, I'm going to contact him! Review his web site, he is one of the most loved lawyer by some, and most hated lawyer by others, in my small community. However, he is widely known and respected all over the country! He has taken on the big guys, like the Navy Government and Major Hospitals in this community and trust he plays to win! Fred has always gone for the cases that have the most public interest and controversy! http://www.levinlaw.com/ Keep the faith! Isanah > > > > > > I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated > on > > August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 well marcellus hasn't worked on his blog in awhile..I had suggested it to him and some others months back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Beautiful---I'm sending it on to my cm & the BRN.Lorie <lorieg@...> wrote: I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Figured out who updated the Wikipedia information: Greg Skipper Re: Wikipedia Beautiful---I'm sending it on to my cm & the BRN.Lorie <lorieglanset> wrote: I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I already sent it to my attorney, thanks again :)Lorie Garlick <lorieg@...> wrote: Figured out who updated the Wikipedia information: Greg Skipper Re: Wikipedia Beautiful---I'm sending it on to my cm & the BRN.Lorie <lorieglanset> wrote: I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Allllriiighttt Greg!!!!!Lorie Garlick <lorieg@...> wrote: Figured out who updated the Wikipedia information: Greg Skipper Re: Wikipedia Beautiful---I'm sending it on to my cm & the BRN.Lorie <lorieglanset> wrote: I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Wow! Isn't that special! Bravo for Dr. Skipper, he has really gone the extra mile and I hope he continues to do so! I notice that the Wikipedia discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. Anybody here have anything to do with that? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 --- http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19940901-000025.html In Ethylglucuronide , " isanahlei " <ddm2903@...> wrote: > > Wow! Isn't that special! Bravo for Dr. Skipper, he has really gone > the extra mile and I hope he continues to do so! > > > I notice that the Wikipedia > discussion on EtG was brilliantly updated on August 19, 2006. > Anybody here have anything to do with that? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_glucuronide > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. > Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Skippers quote: " Ethyl glucuronide, EtG, as well as other non- oxidative metabolites of ethanol, including ethyl sulfate, EtS, and less commonly ethyl phosphate, EtP, are gaining popularity as they can detect ethanol use for up to 7 days post exposure (depending on the person and dose of ethanol). " I notice he says 7 days now. This is up from the previously stated 5 days. Does this mean that they are using a test even more sensitive? (ie more likely than ever to cause a false positive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Skipper wrote: " Ethyl glucuronide, EtG, as well as other non-oxidative metabolites of ethanol, including ethyl sulfate, EtS, and less commonly ethyl phosphate, EtP, are gaining popularity as they can detect ethanol use for up to 7 days post exposure (depending on the person and dose of ethanol). " He wrote 7 days, previous to this it was 5 days. Does this mean they are using a more sensitive test?(ie. more potential to cause false positives). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 hi c,yes it is true there are many more in the works..search "direct ethanol metabolites such as ethyl glucuronide..."by wurst et all for the 2006 isbra conference...many more tests in the works including etg for hair,blood tests,etc...some detect for several mos.it is sick that they are marketing direct metabolites when the whole obscure pathway represents less than 1/100 of hepatic etoh breakdown...so yes,many more bad tests and false positives in the pipeline...regards,r christopj123 <christopj123@...> wrote: Skippers quote: "Ethyl glucuronide, EtG, as well as other non-oxidative metabolites of ethanol, including ethyl sulfate, EtS, and less commonly ethyl phosphate, EtP, are gaining popularity as they can detect ethanol use for up to 7 days post exposure (depending on the person and dose of ethanol)."I notice he says 7 days now. This is up from the previously stated 5 days. Does this mean that they are using a test even more sensitive?(ie more likely than ever to cause a false positive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Just goes to show you, that not everything you read on the internet is accurate. From: Ethylglucuronide [mailto:Ethylglucuronide ] On Behalf Of christopj123 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:00 PM To: Ethylglucuronide Subject: Re: Wikipedia Skippers quote: " Ethyl glucuronide, EtG, as well as other non- oxidative metabolites of ethanol, including ethyl sulfate, EtS, and less commonly ethyl phosphate, EtP, are gaining popularity as they can detect ethanol use for up to 7 days post exposure (depending on the person and dose of ethanol). " I notice he says 7 days now. This is up from the previously stated 5 days. Does this mean that they are using a test even more sensitive? (ie more likely than ever to cause a false positive). ********************************************************************************************The USF Health Mail Protection System has scanned this email and found that it violates the USF Health Mail Guidelines for one of the following reasons: (1) It contains a virus, (2) It is an attempt to relay mail, or (3) It contains other hostile content. The specific reason is shown in the details listed below. Please note that if a virus was found and could not be removed, it was deleted. For further information or if you have any questions, please contact the USF Health IT Help Desk at (813) 974-6288.********************************************************************************************\HTML Active Content: Found invalid IMG Tag, Found Web-beacon, Object Removed: 1 'img' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 They are all part of the stupid world brain wash, the want us all to be slaves for the medicine companies. Bob beck work saved my life and improved the lives of all people around me. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain KuwaitFrom: <wineandgravy@...>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:45:52 -0800 (PST)< >Subject: Wikipedia Does anyone know why Wikipedia does not have Bob Beck biography or anything else remotely related to him? (it was there before but then disappeared).Does anyone know why Hulda is portrayed as a charlatan on Wikipedia. Even Weil is allegedly criticizing her on her wikipedia page.Does anyone know why most alternative health and alternative energy ( Bedini, Stan Meyer) related claims on Wikipedia are labeled 'unreliable, unapproved, unorthodox, pseudoscience, and use at your own risk' methods.It makes me think what people, behind what group, for what purpose if not control are putting in the foreground this great looking website, full of disinformation, propaganda and lies in the invisible background.Welcome to Wikidepia !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 A long time ago when I was adding comments to the Bob Beck wikipedia page there was a notice that they were considering removing it because the health claims were controversial and disputable.I think it is run by "conventional thinkers" or should I say "non-thinkers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Sharing Health from the Heart posted mcuh on Bob Beck on wikipedia. However, " someone " edited the info, deleted key information, made deceptive and untrue remarks and there was nothing Sharing Health could do about it. Wikipedia is nothing more than a marketing outlet, run and totally controlled by big pharma. I do not trust wikipedia as far as I can throw it. It is like quackbusters - funded by pharma to discredit ALL natural therapies. Yes, ALL. This is a known fact. See Tim Bolen's reports. Russ > > A long time ago when I was adding comments to the Bob Beck wikipedia page there was a notice that they were considering removing it because the health claims were controversial and disputable. > I think it is run by " conventional thinkers " or should I say " non-thinkers " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hi Segio: Read interspersed: >Does anyone know why Wikipedia does not have Bob Beck biography or anything else remotely related to him? (it was there before but then disappeared)<. When you put something on Wikipedia that is not mainstream , such as the Joe Cell (for instance), the "mainstream" takes immediate offense. I put quite a long description of the Joe Cell that included some very objective observations, tests, and results there. It stayed there for about six months and others contributed to it. It got to be quite accurate and even better. Then it was taken down and all references were directed to a site that discussed magic and pseudoscience. With the mainstream, are no longer dealing with "science", we are actually discussing the "religion of science" here. When you go against the long established rules, you make the high priests angry and they suppress. It is that simple. Once this information is revealed to the public, however, it usually becomes mainstream. This is what happened with Tesla and AC electricity. He was a mavorick, but his genius overwhelmed them. The last huge exception was with Cold Fusion. The press jumped in and embraced it, but MIT and Cal Tech saw it as a competitor with their billion dollar hot fusion grant experiments and shot it down with bungled experiments. It has never recovered. >Does anyone know why Hulda is portrayed as a charlatan on Wikipedia. Even Weil is allegedly criticizing her on her wikipedia page.< endorsed parasites as a cause on too grand a scale, for one thing. was on the correct trail, but was sidetracked. Too much discussion of parasites agers the priests. They like discussing genetics, especially. Anything that takes the responsibily away from the individual and gives them power is quickly endorsed. But a better example is Dr. Simoncini. He has been ostracized by his piers and has lost his license in Italy for discovering that cancer is a pleomorphic form of candida. His cure rate for all cancers except bone cancer is nearly 100% unless the patient has been previously treated with mainstream treatments. However, his treatment carries the same burdon. His treatment is too cheap and his target is too simple... no genetics... too low tech. He must be punished! The AMA tried to buy Rife's treatment unsuccessfully fifty years ago that came to similar conclusions so that they could suppress it. >Does anyone know why most alternative health and alternative energy ( Bedini, Stan Meyer) related claims on Wikipedia are labeled 'unreliable, unapproved, unorthodox, pseudoscience, and use at your own risk' methods.< See above. An even better example is Tesla. Most of his work after he developed AC power generation is now considered pseudoscience. His invention of wireless electricty was only rediscovered this year, but on a much smaller scale, at MIT. Certainly, Meyer, Bedini and the other's work may resurface on a more grand scale, but only when mainstream applications point back to them. In the meantime, they will remain curiosities. Hydogen fuel could have pointed back to Meyer had the present administration continued to endorse it. But that is not the case (but a good choice IMHO). >It makes me think what people, behind what group, for what purpose if not control are putting in the foreground this great looking website, full of disinformation, propaganda and lies in the invisible background.< Welcome to Wikidepia !!! Kind Regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Jim, can't agree more, Amen.From: jim <huuman60@...>Subject: Re:Wikipedia Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:22 AM Hi Segio: Read interspersed: >Does anyone know why Wikipedia does not have Bob Beck biography or anything else remotely related to him? (it was there before but then disappeared)<. When you put something on Wikipedia that is not mainstream , such as the Joe Cell (for instance), the "mainstream" takes immediate offense. I put quite a long description of the Joe Cell that included some very objective observations, tests, and results there. It stayed there for about six months and others contributed to it. It got to be quite accurate and even better. Then it was taken down and all references were directed to a site that discussed magic and pseudoscience. With the mainstream, are no longer dealing with "science", we are actually discussing the "religion of science" here. When you go against the long established rules, you make the high priests angry and they suppress. It is that simple. Once this information is revealed to the public, however, it usually becomes mainstream. This is what happened with Tesla and AC electricity. He was a mavorick, but his genius overwhelmed them. The last huge exception was with Cold Fusion. The press jumped in and embraced it, but MIT and Cal Tech saw it as a competitor with their billion dollar hot fusion grant experiments and shot it down with bungled experiments. It has never recovered. >Does anyone know why Hulda is portrayed as a charlatan on Wikipedia. Even Weil is allegedly criticizing her on her wikipedia page.< endorsed parasites as a cause on too grand a scale, for one thing. was on the correct trail, but was sidetracked. Too much discussion of parasites agers the priests. They like discussing genetics, especially. Anything that takes the responsibily away from the individual and gives them power is quickly endorsed. But a better example is Dr. Simoncini. He has been ostracized by his piers and has lost his license in Italy for discovering that cancer is a pleomorphic form of candida. His cure rate for all cancers except bone cancer is nearly 100% unless the patient has been previously treated with mainstream treatments. However, his treatment carries the same burdon. His treatment is too cheap and his target is too simple... no genetics... too low tech. He must be punished! The AMA tried to buy Rife's treatment unsuccessfully fifty years ago that came to similar conclusions so that they could suppress it. >Does anyone know why most alternative health and alternative energy ( Bedini, Stan Meyer) related claims on Wikipedia are labeled 'unreliable, unapproved, unorthodox, pseudoscience, and use at your own risk' methods.< See above. An even better example is Tesla. Most of his work after he developed AC power generation is now considered pseudoscience. His invention of wireless electricty was only rediscovered this year, but on a much smaller scale, at MIT. Certainly, Meyer, Bedini and the other's work may resurface on a more grand scale, but only when mainstream applications point back to them. In the meantime, they will remain curiosities. Hydogen fuel could have pointed back to Meyer had the present administration continued to endorse it. But that is not the case (but a good choice IMHO). >It makes me think what people, behind what group, for what purpose if not control are putting in the foreground this great looking website, full of disinformation, propaganda and lies in the invisible background.< Welcome to Wikidepia !!! Kind Regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I am posting this on other groups as well but Iknow each group has its own experts. I was looking to see what a surfer might find if looking up mcs and found at the top of the list Barrets quakwatch...crapwatch. But also wikipedia mas a large article on mcs. Causes There is no clear consensus as to what causes the symptoms of MCS. There may be several causes. [edit] Misdiagnosis More than half of 54 people from one study about MCS instead had somatoform disorder[29] or panic disorder.[30] Other possible explanations include migraine, anxiety disorder, lupus, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome or other forms of orthostatic intolerance, hay fever and other allergies, hypercalcemia, hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue syndrome, or fibromyalgia. Sufferers may also have a tendency to " catastrophically misinterpret benign physical symptoms " [31] or simply a disturbingly acute sense of smell.[32] [edit] Psychological Several mechanisms for psychological etiology have been proposed including theories based on stress, Pavlovian conditioning, or misdiagnoses of an underlying mental illness. Behavior exhibited by MCS sufferers may reflect broader sociological fears about industrial pollution.[33] Here is the site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_chemical_sensitivity Very derogotory about mccs, Pavlov may be the mechanism??? If anyone here with expertise who knows how to enter information on wiki cares to cocntribute for us that would be great. Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Oh I love that-other possible diagnoses may include migraines! Duh! I get migraines because I'm exposed to things that trigger my migraines. How is any self-respecting doctor ok with this? --- In , " fontanafool " <productionking04@...> wrote: > > I am posting this on other groups as well but Iknow each group has its own experts. I was looking to see what a surfer might find if looking up mcs and found at the top of the list Barrets quakwatch...crapwatch. But also wikipedia mas a large article on mcs. > > Causes > There is no clear consensus as to what causes the symptoms of MCS. There may be several causes. >snip- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 What wonderful info Leigh! I totally forgot that Wiki was edit-able...they supposedly data check, but that would do us good!!!! What a great idea, I will look at many postings tomorrow:) So glad you were able to view Makenna's video. Let me know if you have any questions... Amy > > Evening, > > So two of my favorite internet resources are google and wikipedia. We're looking at taking off Noah's cast at home next week and I've read several ISOP posts and seen Makenna's videos of at home how-to's. So when googling/wiki'ing, I started reading about casts and scoliosis and didn't notice any information at all there about EDF or ISOP. > > I copied some EDF info from past threads for the orthopedic cast wiki. I also added Casting (edf) as an option on the scoliosis page (it had just theraphy, bracing and surgery). > > At the bottom of both pages, I added external links to www.infantilescoliosis.org and www.luckycastclub.com as resources. > > I think there are many of you out there that have more info on the subjects and I just thought that maybe it would be good if one of the many bloggers/writers might have time to update and/or create some wiki pages (there is not one for infantile scoliosis). Anyone can edit any page so it's a good way to get the info out there - especially considering the hits wikipedia gets. > > Just a thought. > Leigh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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