Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 well, ...he does understand BT theory and advocates it to a large extent but feels there are also other considerations. It is very possible that I am not absorbing at the moment. Have had too much sugar (mostly in fruit) this summer and am withdrawing from it...find that hard and frankly, when I do not have enough carbs then I am very nervous and can't sleep. I do eat a lot of protein...perhaps too much. Guess I will just listen to my body - protein cleansing drink does not feel right so will go with good HB foods. Re: Detoxing Hi Trish, Axel, , , My ND recommended a vegetable detox for 4 days for hubby and me - dh is an A. Right now I am cleaning up my diet and feel challenged by that...some slips this summer re milk and wheat and much more fruit than is good for me. The de-tox suggested also includes a rice protein drink called Biocleanse that supports Phase 2 detoxification. It is like UltrClear + for those that know that product. Ingredients are pretty good for me although I don't much care for it. What kind of a detox did you do, Trish? I agree with all you that suggested that a HB diet would work well....and the real beef, Axel. I really do not do well when I miss my animal protein...organic of course. Thanks for all the advice. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Great recommendations .... blessings, kathy s *want Dr D's (NAP) products email kksmith@... Dekany wrote: Forgot the diet part - Hungry? Either you are not absorbing or you are eating too much carb & too little protein. Or not enough fat. Follow what says and send me the money you'd spend on this ND. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Hi Ann and group I would like to explain the detox that I did and would appreciate some opinions . . . keeping in mind that it was specifically a liver detoxification and it was done before I started on the ER4YT diet. After the two week detox was complete I started on the diet. First four days - spread throughout the day: 5 Greens + Transform shakes, with 2 Tablespoons of blueberries and 2 Tablespoons ground flax seed. Supplements - 3 Thorne L.C.H., 3 Thorne Calcium D-Glucarate and 6 Tyler Detoxication Factors Phase 1 and 2 nutrients Next ten days - 3 of the above shakes a day, same supplements, for the other two meals small amounts of veggies or fruit (but no tomatoes, oranges, bananas or potatoes). Lemon juice for seasoning. I had amazing results with this . . . but it was the first detox I have ever done, so I have nothing to judge it by. Any thoughts? Thanks, Trish >Hi Trish, Axel, , , > > My ND recommended a vegetable detox for 4 days for hubby and me - dh is an A. Right now I am cleaning up my diet and feel challenged by that...some slips this summer re milk and wheat and much more fruit than is good for me. > > The de-tox suggested also includes a rice protein drink called Biocleanse that supports Phase 2 detoxification. It is like UltrClear + for those that know that product. Ingredients are pretty good for me although I don't much care for it. > > What kind of a detox did you do, Trish? > > I agree with all you that suggested that a HB diet would work well....and the real beef, Axel. I really do not do well when I miss my animal protein...organic of course. > > Thanks for all the advice. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Hi Trish, I do not know what is in Transform but perhaps it is similar to what has been recommended for me except that for me, the Greens is covered by making an alkaline broth from green beans, spinach, zucchini, celery and parsley. Also a lot of veggies and limited number of " shakes " which are rice based and formulated to cover the detox. The problem area for me is that it has fructose in it and as a nonnie that is bothersome. What results did you get that were amazing? I think that my hubby will do the cleanse - he is an A and will do well on it. I will take the supps that suppport the detox and do veggies and white fish, perhaps eggs and I haven't decided on the oil yet. Possibly EV Olive for my particular physiology. I tend to be way too high on Omega 3 so flax is perhaps not a good choice. ND is back on line on Tuesday and so I will consult with him. I really appreciate all the info from Axel and and others and it is important for me to be very well informed. However, I feel that this is not a " do-it-yourself " project for me because I have had a lot of serious health problems. There is just way to much info out there and we are all so very individual. I appreciate Dr. D's brilliance but he does not know ME and my problems or physiology. I looked at the long list of what I could take and do not feel comfortable taking that number of supps. Some of it I have tried before such as Deflect and it is not suitable for me because of the Fucus in it and my tendency towards to hyperthyroid. I am off today to get some menu plans for blood type and recipes for O nonnies...also for A's (for hubby)and things that work for both. A woman here in London, Ont has done a lot of work and had many of her clients contribute so it should be a help. Also off to the market to stock up on organic veggies and better bread for hubby. Good luck on your program. Ann Re: Detoxing Hi Ann and group I would like to explain the detox that I did and would appreciate some opinions . . . keeping in mind that it was specifically a liver detoxification and it was done before I started on the ER4YT diet. After the two week detox was complete I started on the diet. First four days - spread throughout the day: 5 Greens + Transform shakes, with 2 Tablespoons of blueberries and 2 Tablespoons ground flax seed. Supplements - 3 Thorne L.C.H., 3 Thorne Calcium D-Glucarate and 6 Tyler Detoxication Factors Phase 1 and 2 nutrients Next ten days - 3 of the above shakes a day, same supplements, for the other two meals small amounts of veggies or fruit (but no tomatoes, oranges, bananas or potatoes). Lemon juice for seasoning. I had amazing results with this . . . but it was the first detox I have ever done, so I have nothing to judge it by. Any thoughts? Thanks, Trish >Hi Trish, Axel, , , > > My ND recommended a vegetable detox for 4 days for hubby and me - dh is an A. Right now I am cleaning up my diet and feel challenged by that...some slips this summer re milk and wheat and much more fruit than is good for me. > > The de-tox suggested also includes a rice protein drink called Biocleanse that supports Phase 2 detoxification. It is like UltrClear + for those that know that product. Ingredients are pretty good for me although I don't much care for it. > > What kind of a detox did you do, Trish? > > I agree with all you that suggested that a HB diet would work well....and the real beef, Axel. I really do not do well when I miss my animal protein...organic of course. > > Thanks for all the advice. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Hi Ann Greens+ Transform is soy based. My amazing results were: nearly all my eczema cleared up, heart burn, indigestion and gas almost completely eliminated, energy level sky rocketed, texture of skin and hair totally changed, bags under eyes dissappeared, heat and light intolerance disappeared, numbness in feet disappeared, blood pressure went back to normal . . . etc All of these were things that I had put up with for years and the MDs gave me drugs and tests with no results at all (if not making some things worse). By staying on the ER4YBT I have been able to maintain my good health. Trish Lowell Barron <lowell.barron@...> wrote: Hi Trish, I do not know what is in Transform but perhaps it is similar to what has been recommended for me except that for me, the Greens is covered by making an alkaline broth from green beans, spinach, zucchini, celery and parsley. Also a lot of veggies and limited number of " shakes " which are rice based and formulated to cover the detox. The problem area for me is that it has fructose in it and as a nonnie that is bothersome. What results did you get that were amazing? I think that my hubby will do the cleanse - he is an A and will do well on it. I will take the supps that suppport the detox and do veggies and white fish, perhaps eggs and I haven't decided on the oil yet. Possibly EV Olive for my particular physiology. I tend to be way too high on Omega 3 so flax is perhaps not a good choice. ND is back on line on Tuesday and so I will consult with him. I really appreciate all the info from Axel and and others and it is important for me to be very well informed. However, I feel that this is not a " do-it-yourself " project for me because I have had a lot of serious health problems. There is just way to much info out there and we are all so very individual. I appreciate Dr. D's brilliance but he does not know ME and my problems or physiology. I looked at the long list of what I could take and do not feel comfortable taking that number of supps. Some of it I have tried before such as Deflect and it is not suitable for me because of the Fucus in it and my tendency towards to hyperthyroid. I am off today to get some menu plans for blood type and recipes for O nonnies...also for A's (for hubby)and things that work for both. A woman here in London, Ont has done a lot of work and had many of her clients contribute so it should be a help. Also off to the market to stock up on organic veggies and better bread for hubby. Good luck on your program. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Very Inspiring! Thanks for sharing that. Re: Detoxing Hi Ann Greens+ Transform is soy based. My amazing results were: nearly all my eczema cleared up, heart burn, indigestion and gas almost completely eliminated, energy level sky rocketed, texture of skin and hair totally changed, bags under eyes dissappeared, heat and light intolerance disappeared, numbness in feet disappeared, blood pressure went back to normal . . . etc All of these were things that I had put up with for years and the MDs gave me drugs and tests with no results at all (if not making some things worse). By staying on the ER4YBT I have been able to maintain my good health. Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Cilantro is what we call coriander. I had a look at kitchendoctor.com on chelating with cilantro. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Esther, you were fortunate to be able to pay for the services of someone to guide you through detoxing, but there are many people who are unable to do so for a variety of reasons. Some, have exhausted their resources fighting their disease. This isn't something the average insurance policy covers. These cleanses, for the most part, are easily and successfully accomplished at home PROVIDING directions are followed specifically. However, when heavy metal toxicity and neuro toxins are involved, intravenous therapy and prescription medication may be required, and for that you would need a competent medical practitioner. You are correct. It is vitally important that you drink LOTS of water (3 to 4 quarts a day) when cleansing to remove the toxins, but you first need to make sure your bowels are working properly to remove those toxins or, as you say, they will just be reabsorbed by the body. Maybe I didn't emphasis that strongly enough. Most people don't drink enough water when they aren't detoxing. I've had people tell me there bowels move once in 5 days! No wonder they are sick. The first thing on the menu then is to get those bowels moving no less than twice a day - preferably more. I've found making up a batch of Essiac and taking 2 oz. in 2 oz. of warm water three times a day not only corrects the constipation, but helps heal the intestinal tract as it is also an anti-microbial. As I answered 's request for detox information, I thought of my mother-in-law. My parents were very close friends with my husband's parents from the time I was about 11 years old. The families were always doing something together so I knew her very well. Every time someone in that family got sick, out came the enema bag. We kids use to joke about the 'foolishness' of thinking an enema could help. Both she and her husband went through life with no major illness, living into their 90s and dying in their sleep from old age. Ethel rheumatic detoxing > In reply to info on detoxing: > > I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the > guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury > levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take > chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are > supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. > Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of > the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood > test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only > a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her > blood was negative. > > My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost > as good as a colonic. > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Hi, Just following up on Ethel's excellent advice. Yes, there are many kinds of cleansings. DMSA, a metal chelator, can be purchased on line as a pill, and in some retail stores. If you suspect metal toxcicity, I wouldn't use this without the guidance of a professional. One needs to calculate the dosage in relation to body weight, and to monitor other things in the process. As long as the subject of water came up, I will mention that I distribute a high quality water purifier as a fundraiser for non-profits and charities, and to individuals. (It isn't a business, it's an avocation) I'm in complete agreement about the water consumption recommendations Ethel raised. Thanks!, ew >Esther, you were fortunate to be able to pay for >the services of someone to guide you through >detoxing, but there are many people who are >unable to do so for a variety of reasons. Some, >have exhausted their resources fighting their >disease. This isn't something the average >insurance policy covers. These cleanses, for >the most part, are easily and successfully >accomplished at home PROVIDING directions are >followed specifically. However, when heavy >metal toxicity and neuro toxins are involved, >intravenous therapy and prescription medication >may be required, and for that you would need a >competent medical practitioner. > >You are correct. It is vitally important that >you drink LOTS of water (3 to 4 quarts a day) >when cleansing to remove the toxins, but you >first need to make sure your bowels are working >properly to remove those toxins or, as you say, >they will just be reabsorbed by the body. >Maybe I didn't emphasis that strongly enough. >Most people don't drink enough water when they >aren't detoxing. > >I've had people tell me there bowels move once >in 5 days! No wonder they are sick. The first >thing on the menu then is to get those bowels >moving no less than twice a day - preferably >more. I've found making up a batch of Essiac >and taking 2 oz. in 2 oz. of warm water three >times a day not only corrects the constipation, >but helps heal the intestinal tract as it is >also an anti-microbial. > >As I answered 's request for detox >information, I thought of my mother-in-law. My >parents were very close friends with my >husband's parents from the time I was about 11 >years old. The families were always doing >something together so I knew her very well. >Every time someone in that family got sick, out >came the enema bag. We kids use to joke about >the 'foolishness' of thinking an enema could >help. Both she and her husband went through >life with no major illness, living into their >90s and dying in their sleep from old age. > >Ethel > > > rheumatic detoxing > > >> In reply to info on detoxing: >> >> I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the >> guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury >> levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take >> chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are >> supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. >> Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of >> the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood >> test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only >> a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her >> blood was negative. >> >> My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost >> as good as a colonic. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Ethel I am one who has a BM every other day or less. I thought it was normal for me. I eat a lot of carbs(bad I know)and I know they do not form much bulk. The only time I went more often was at my menses. I never wanted to take a laxative ..again I thought I was normal. I am ordering essiac tomorrow. Is tea better or does it come in pill form?? cooky Re: rheumatic detoxing Esther, you were fortunate to be able to pay for the services of someone to guide you through detoxing, but there are many people who are unable to do so for a variety of reasons. Some, have exhausted their resources fighting their disease. This isn't something the average insurance policy covers. These cleanses, for the most part, are easily and successfully accomplished at home PROVIDING directions are followed specifically. However, when heavy metal toxicity and neuro toxins are involved, intravenous therapy and prescription medication may be required, and for that you would need a competent medical practitioner. You are correct. It is vitally important that you drink LOTS of water (3 to 4 quarts a day) when cleansing to remove the toxins, but you first need to make sure your bowels are working properly to remove those toxins or, as you say, they will just be reabsorbed by the body. Maybe I didn't emphasis that strongly enough. Most people don't drink enough water when they aren't detoxing. I've had people tell me there bowels move once in 5 days! No wonder they are sick. The first thing on the menu then is to get those bowels moving no less than twice a day - preferably more. I've found making up a batch of Essiac and taking 2 oz. in 2 oz. of warm water three times a day not only corrects the constipation, but helps heal the intestinal tract as it is also an anti-microbial. As I answered 's request for detox information, I thought of my mother-in-law. My parents were very close friends with my husband's parents from the time I was about 11 years old. The families were always doing something together so I knew her very well. Every time someone in that family got sick, out came the enema bag. We kids use to joke about the 'foolishness' of thinking an enema could help. Both she and her husband went through life with no major illness, living into their 90s and dying in their sleep from old age. Ethel rheumatic detoxing > In reply to info on detoxing: > > I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the > guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury > levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take > chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are > supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. > Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of > the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood > test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only > a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her > blood was negative. > > My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost > as good as a colonic. > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Cooky, Essiac doesn't come in pills. You can buy it under the label Flor Essence but it is about $25 for 17 ounces. I buy it in bulk - 10 cups for about $80. One cup makes 4 quarts for a price of about $8.00 - if my math is correct. www.blessedherbs.com. If you are that constipated, it's no wonder you are still having problems. When the gut is out of balance those toxins just re-circulate throughout the body. You would do well to clean out that bowel with colonics to remove the impacted feces before starting the Essiac. If you can't afford colonics then use Dr. Schulze Intestinal I and Intestinal II or Homozon. Then use the Essiac daily. I am well - don't even need meds, but I still do the cleanses several times a year to keep the toxic load under control and stay well. I wouldn't think of going to bed at night if I hadn't had at least two good BMs that day and neither should you. Ethel rheumatic detoxing > > >> In reply to info on detoxing: >> >> I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the >> guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury >> levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take >> chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are >> supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. >> Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of >> the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood >> test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only >> a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her >> blood was negative. >> >> My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost >> as good as a colonic. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Thank you so much Ethel. You always know the right things to say even if one of them is ENEMA )))) LOL love, cooky Re: rheumatic detoxing Cooky, Essiac doesn't come in pills. You can buy it under the label Flor Essence but it is about $25 for 17 ounces. I buy it in bulk - 10 cups for about $80. One cup makes 4 quarts for a price of about $8.00 - if my math is correct. www.blessedherbs.com. If you are that constipated, it's no wonder you are still having problems. When the gut is out of balance those toxins just re-circulate throughout the body. You would do well to clean out that bowel with colonics to remove the impacted feces before starting the Essiac. If you can't afford colonics then use Dr. Schulze Intestinal I and Intestinal II or Homozon. Then use the Essiac daily. I am well - don't even need meds, but I still do the cleanses several times a year to keep the toxic load under control and stay well. I wouldn't think of going to bed at night if I hadn't had at least two good BMs that day and neither should you. Ethel rheumatic detoxing > > >> In reply to info on detoxing: >> >> I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the >> guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury >> levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take >> chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are >> supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. >> Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of >> the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood >> test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only >> a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her >> blood was negative. >> >> My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost >> as good as a colonic. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Years ago, a naturopathic doctor told me that if you eat three meals a day then you should have three BM's. In fact, he said things should pass through your system in 24 to 36 hours ideally. One way to check your bowel transit time is to take chlorophyl (sp?) pills. They turn your BM's green so if you take them with a meal then you can time how long it takes for it to work through your system. Periodically, I time myself and, naturally, I strive to have 3 BM's (or more) a day. Drinking plenty of water helps. Taking magnesium supplements helps (especially if I have to take iron since iron supplements constipate me.) Eating lots of raw vegetables helps. Just my 2 cents worth... - Ethel Snooks writes: > Cooky, Essiac doesn't come in pills. You can buy it under the label Flor > Essence but it is about $25 for 17 ounces. > I buy it in bulk - 10 cups for about $80. One cup makes 4 quarts for a > price of about $8.00 - if my math is correct. > www.blessedherbs.com. > > If you are that constipated, it's no wonder you are still having problems. > When the gut is out of balance those toxins just re-circulate throughout the > body. You would do well to clean out that bowel with colonics to remove > the impacted feces before starting the Essiac. If you can't afford colonics > then use Dr. Schulze Intestinal I and Intestinal II or Homozon. Then use > the Essiac daily. > > I am well - don't even need meds, but I still do the cleanses several times > a year to keep the toxic load under control and stay well. I wouldn't think > of going to bed at night if I hadn't had at least two good BMs that day and > neither should you. > > Ethel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 If my prim and proper English mother could hear me talking to people about bowel movements she would turn over in her grave! That was one of those things you never mentioned publicly. Love to you too my friend, Ethel rheumatic detoxing >> >> >>> In reply to info on detoxing: >>> >>> I learned that heavy metal chelation should be done under the >>> guidance of a skilled naturalpath physician. I had very high mercury >>> levels and detoxed through Bastyr Univ. in Seattle. If you take >>> chelators purchased online, it will not help unless you are >>> supporting you body and bowel with the proper elimination strategy. >>> Otherwise the toxins will be reabsorbed. DMSA is considered one of >>> the safest chelators. Before doing this, it is best to have a blood >>> test which I understand is the gold standard. Hair analysis is only >>> a first step. My daughter's hair was positive for mercury but her >>> blood was negative. >>> >>> My doctor said that the use of Thorne Medi-bulk, 4x a day was almost >>> as good as a colonic. >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 rheumatic Re: detoxing > Years ago, a naturopathic doctor told me that if you eat three meals a day > then you should have three BM's. In fact, he said things should pass > through > your system in 24 to 36 hours ideally. One way to check your bowel transit > time is to take chlorophyl (sp?) pills. They turn your BM's green so if > you > take them with a meal then you can time how long it takes for it to work > through your system. You can check your transit time by eating beets too. > > Periodically, I time myself and, naturally, I strive to have 3 BM's (or > more) a day. Drinking plenty of water helps. Taking magnesium supplements > helps (especially if I have to take iron since iron supplements constipate > me.) Eating lots of raw vegetables helps. > > Just my 2 cents worth... > > - > > Ethel Snooks writes: > >> Cooky, Essiac doesn't come in pills. You can buy it under the label >> Flor >> Essence but it is about $25 for 17 ounces. >> I buy it in bulk - 10 cups for about $80. One cup makes 4 quarts for a >> price of about $8.00 - if my math is correct. >> www.blessedherbs.com. >> >> If you are that constipated, it's no wonder you are still having >> problems. >> When the gut is out of balance those toxins just re-circulate throughout >> the >> body. You would do well to clean out that bowel with colonics to remove >> the impacted feces before starting the Essiac. If you can't afford >> colonics >> then use Dr. Schulze Intestinal I and Intestinal II or Homozon. Then use >> the Essiac daily. >> >> I am well - don't even need meds, but I still do the cleanses several >> times >> a year to keep the toxic load under control and stay well. I wouldn't >> think >> of going to bed at night if I hadn't had at least two good BMs that day >> and >> neither should you. >> >> Ethel > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Are you taking probiotics? that would help keep candida in check. Everybody has candida and having a little of it isn't such a bad thing since healthy good bacterias dine on it. I think yogurt would be good for you too. Taking anti-biotics will kill your good bacteria which causes candida overgrowth, and problems. Dr. Oz (Oprah's frequent guest) says meats take 4 days to digest, and they will slow down your intestines. Meats are full of parasites so cook well done. I don't think it is a good idea cutting out fruits, which are really rather important part of a good diet and healthy colon. Be sure to drink lots and lots of water. If you are going to do a liver cleanse, you will have to eat apples, pears and beets to soften any gall stones you might have, or take malic acid pills. Personally I notice a really sluggish colon when I eat meat especially red meat so for the most part I am vegan but I do eat eggs. Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote: Hello, I am new to the group. I have candida and have been on a strict diet of no sugars, no grains, no dairy except butter, just beef, fowl, fish, eggs, recommended veggies and good fats. I've been on this diet for about 5 months and have been constipated just about that long. I want to detox my body starting with a colon cleanse. I have not read Dr. 's books but have been reading and researching info all over the net I am strapped for money right now, but would like to try Colosan and am just wondering where I can get the best price from a reputable supplier. Also, I've read with most detoxes, especially parasite cleanses, you should not eat meats. I don't think I can eliminate meat from my diet. I have already lost 25 lbs on the Candida diet (which I didn't need to lose) and cannot afford to lose any more weight. Since I don't eat sugars or other high carb foods, do you think keeping the meat in my diet would be ok. Thanks for any suggestions. Gail __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 > > Are you taking probiotics? that would help keep candida in check. Everybody has candida and having a little of it isn't such a bad thing since healthy good bacterias dine on it. Yes, I am taking probiotics. I'm afraid I have more than a " little " candida. >I think yogurt would be good for you too. Taking anti-biotics will kill your good bacteria which causes candida overgrowth, and problems. >Dr. Oz (Oprah's frequent guest) says meats take 4 days to digest, and they will slow down your intestines. Meats are full of parasites so cook well done. I don't think it is a good idea cutting out fruits, which are really rather important part of a good diet and healthy colon. Be sure to drink lots and lots of water. If you are going to do a liver cleanse, you will have to eat apples, pears and beets to soften any gall stones you might have, or take malic acid pills. I don't take any anti-biotics and haven't taken any for probably 15 yrs. I know all the causes of candida overgrowth. I'm just looking for some good info on doing these flushes. I can't eat fruit other than lemons and limes or a small serving of a peach or apple occasionally. And I can't eat yogurt. If I don't stick to the candida diet I get terrible reactions. I believe if I can get my intestines flushed out and do the other flushes, it will help get rid of a lot of the toxins, help get rid of some of the candida overgrowth, and perhaps get my bowels moving again. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Detoxing too quickly can definitely cause the symptoms you describe. If you suspect detoxing is the cause, simply cut back and you should feel better within a couple of days or so. One question I do have is are you eating enough? Your body needs fuel to run on so if you aren't fueling it, you are going to be exhausted. Exercise will increase endorphins so you feel great for a while. Kenda > >> Hi All ... have a question ... >> >> I've been detoxing ... using the " footbath " >> twice per week now for about 2 weeks. Before >> that was once per week. I also have given >> myself 2 coffee enemas in the last two weeks. >> >> I have to say ... it's taken me days to get out >> of my exhaustion. Is this a good thing or maybe >> I'm not taking enough minerals? Tired when I go >> to bed, tired when I wake up and very little >> gets me out of being tired all day. After a bit >> of coffee and water in the AM, I am ok for >> awhile ... then downhill again. Exercise does >> help for awhile ... but only briefly ... >> >> Any comments ? LCL >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Over zealous. Probably. But who does not want to detox and get those poisons out of your body. Lynda At 08:11 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote: >over zelous !!! (sp?) LCL > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> > >LCL, > >I'd suggest backing off everything, except >probiotics, to give your body a chance to catch up. . . > >Eat healthy, exercise a little, take vitamins >and mineral supplements, drink a lot of water, and rest . . . > >I know you're anxious to get going again . . . >But rushing to the point of exhaustion isn't productive. > >When you're ready to start detoxing again, take it a little more slowly. > >Hugs and prayers, > >Rogene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 PH,I've tried sooooooo many things! . . . What I recommend is what I think will give the most benefit, the fastest, to everyone who wants to turn their health problems around. It's so easy to get overloaded and not know where to start! What I've done (the short list)Saunafoot bathsvitamins/mineralsProbiotics (numerous types)diet probiotic foods - sauerkraut, Kefir, yogurthyperbaric oxygen chamberKombucha Teagrapefruit seed extractraw crushed garlic . . . I recommend this to everyone!aloe vera juiceOlive leaf extractOil of Oreganoliver flushescoffee enemasapple cider vinegarmiracle II neutralizerexercisemedication for sleep (Temazapam)massage therapydeep breathingmeditationvisual imagingSpring water (free from the springs in Hot Springs)Sea SaltCoconut oilOregano Iodine dropsStress and anger managementCaprylic AcidGarden of Life productsLiving CalciumLiving MultiCod Liver OilPerfect FoodRM-10Digestive EnzymesFucoTHIN (I don't recommend this for anybody)I'm sure I'm missing some things that I tried and discontinued . .. I don't do all these all the time . . . Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes, I am curious too! Is the first step in detox Foot Baths? Do saunas really help? How often? Is Dr. Kolb's protocol necessary? Thanks! Lilan > > Hi Rogene, > Last night as I was going to bed I started thinking about the wonderful > things you've encouraged us to do with diet and detox...thank you!! > You seem to stress healthy diet, ionic foot baths and saunas, but I > haven't heard you say much else about other forms of detox. Is that > basically what you did? > Did you try anything else like colonics, fasting, coffee enemas, Grape > cleanse, the zapper or other therapies? If so, what was your > experience. Thanks so much and I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!! > Love, PH > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Lilan,The very most important thing is a healthy diet . . . Without that, it doesn't matter what else you do.I don't know if you can buy Caprylic Acid OTC there. . . It's fast, effective, safe and inexpensive. . . Gradually work up to 3600 mg. a day, then take that much for 16 days . . . Start the probiotics before you finish Caprylic Acid.I haven't followed Dr. Kolb's diet, or supplements. I have no doubt it's beneficial. The diet hasn't worked for some of our women, but it's worth a try. . . I really like the book "The Maker's Diet" . . . You can subscribe to Rubin's diet online . . . menus planned by a master chef. . . Search for 'Garden of Life'.The foot baths are tremendous . . . They pull stuff out of you that you would never dream could be there. . . and, everybody has different results. . . You can see my first foot bath in our photo archive. Really nasty stuff. Check www.ionicoasis.com for information . . . But, if you decide to order, go to www.ebay.com and search for "ionic oasis foot bath" . . . You can get it for about half price. . .. However, if you're in Germany, you'll need it wired for Europe. . . You can order those models there. I like the FAR infrared saunas . . . not the standard steam or dry sauna. . . The light itself has healing properties. I think Europe is ahead of us with these! You can do the saunas every day, if you wish . . . as long as you feel well doing them. If you start Herxing heavily, you'll want to shorten the time and/or increase the time between treatments. Some say footbaths can be done every 48 hours . . . I don't feel right about that! . . . PH's doctors said she could do hers twice a week . . . Personally, I think it depends on how you're doing. . . For myself, every two weeks is enough. If your feet start burning while doing the foot baths, that's evidence of Magnesium deficiency, so increase your Mineral intake. There are a lot of things you can do to detox. As I see it, they target different parts of our body . . . So, it depends on what you want to do. . . Just don't try to do it all at once!I'll have to admit there are times when I decide to forget about trying to watch my diet. . . Today was one of those . . . I had some carrot cake (removed the frosting), and sweet potatoes with sugar in them. . . I know from experience that, if I do that again tomorrow, I'll be feeling bad pretty soon. . . I know that, if I increase my probiotics, I'll probably be fine. You can find out if you have a fungal issue by doing the "Three Lac Candida Test".Hugs,RogeneHugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Hi Rogene, Does the grapefruit seed extract help build up your immune system? > > PH, > > I've tried sooooooo many things! . . . What I recommend is what I think will give the most benefit, the fastest, to everyone who wants to turn their health problems around. It's so easy to get overloaded and not know where to start! > > What I've done (the short list) > > Sauna > foot baths > vitamins/minerals > Probiotics (numerous types) > diet > probiotic foods - sauerkraut, Kefir, yogurt > hyperbaric oxygen chamber > Kombucha Tea > grapefruit seed extract > raw crushed garlic . . . I recommend this to everyone! > aloe vera juice > Olive leaf extract > Oil of Oregano > liver flushes > coffee enemas > apple cider vinegar > miracle II neutralizer > exercise > medication for sleep (Temazapam) > massage therapy > deep breathing > meditation > visual imaging > Spring water (free from the springs in Hot Springs) > Sea Salt > Coconut oil > Oregano Iodine drops > Stress and anger management > Caprylic Acid > > Garden of Life products > Living Calcium > Living Multi > Cod Liver Oil > Perfect Food > RM-10 > Digestive Enzymes > FucoTHIN (I don't recommend this for anybody) > > I'm sure I'm missing some things that I tried and discontinued . .. I don't do all these all the time . . . > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Stephie,Grapefruit seed extract does the same thing as the other anti-fungals. . .. It's a matter of choice. When I used Grapefruit seed extract, I didn't know about any other antifungals.Hugs,Rogene Re: Detoxing Hi Rogene, Does the grapefruit seed extract help build up your immune system? > > PH, > > I've tried sooooooo many things! . . . What I recommend is what I think will give the most benefit, the fastest, to everyone who wants to turn their health problems around. It's so easy to get overloaded and not know where to start! > > What I've done (the short list) > > Sauna > foot baths > vitamins/minerals > Probiotics (numerous types) > diet > probiotic foods - sauerkraut, Kefir, yogurt > hyperbaric oxygen chamber > Kombucha Tea > grapefruit seed extract > raw crushed garlic . . . I recommend this to everyone! > aloe vera juice > Olive leaf extract > Oil of Oregano > liver flushes > coffee enemas > apple cider vinegar > miracle II neutralizer > exercise > medication for sleep (Temazapam) > massage therapy > deep breathing > meditation > visual imaging > Spring water (free from the springs in Hot Springs) > Sea Salt > Coconut oil > Oregano Iodine drops > Stress and anger management > Caprylic Acid > > Garden of Life products > Living Calcium > Living Multi > Cod Liver Oil > Perfect Food > RM-10 > Digestive Enzymes > FucoTHIN (I don't recommend this for anybody) > > I'm sure I'm missing some things that I tried and discontinued . .. I don't do all these all the time . . . > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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