Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:10:37 EST Foggschool@... writes: > From: Foggschool@... > > <A HREF= " http://www.cco.net/~trufax/menu/chem.html " >The Chemical > Manipulation of Human Consciousness</A> > > http://www.cco.net/~trufax/menu/chem.html > > To all interested in the truth about toxins in our world and the > effects it > has on our health, this is a great link. > > (Biological Manipulation of Human Populations > A very interesting site. There probably is a lot of good stuff in it. However, I wish the author of the introductory piece had taken a little time to do some relaxation exercises before beginning to write. The venom that came spewing from his pen made the content almost obscene. Why is it that crusaders for truth think that they have to pulverize the opposition with vitriol in order to make their point? After reading a few rather tedious paragraphs of demagoguery, I decided that it wasn't worth soiling my soul with the author's hatred in order to add a small amount of information to my mind. It's a shame that it came out that way. I'm sure he meant well in his efforts to warn us all. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 The intentions of sending the site was this: to offer an opportunity for those interested to expand their own knowledge. I would hope that one would use his or her good judgment to decide what information to use and what information to disregard. " Why is it that crusaders for truth think that they have to pulverize the opposition with vitriol in order to make their point? " I would like to say this: It is the opposition who sent Hulda to jail. It is the opposition who would not listen to the countless parents and teachers reporting that the Columbine boys were in trouble and that something needed to be done. It is the opposition that is trying to sell my children food products known to be toxic. It is the opposition who will knowingly market birth control that has been proven lethal in third world and American test subjects. It is the opposition who will aggressively market vaccinations made from aborted fetuses and other unspeakable elements that have been proven toxic. It is the opposition that has taken religion and prayer out of our schools. It is the opposition that choses to give deadly chemotherapy to cancer victims, knowing it will only kill them faster. It is the opposition that will continue to market known hazardous products, in order to make a buck. It is the opposition who is okaying the destruction of our planet. And, it is the opposition who takes the authoritarian role, telling our country what information they are entitled to. When confronted, it does not surprise me that the opposition is sometimes met with pulverization and vitriol. However, I myself do not like " spewing venom, " I choose, instead, to IGNORE the opposition and try not to take others remarks so personally, all the while leaving the door open for information and knowledge offered me. The world is a great place to learn and I feel very fortunate to be a member of this letter group. I expect oppsition here, as with any other place, but expect also to learn and be given the opportunity to do so.Foggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/2000 1:42:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, rossviva@... writes: << Why do conventional physicians do this to their own children when they have cancer? >> It is my understanding that a physician choosing chemotherapy for his/her own child is unaware of an alternative medicine, either by chance or by choice. <A HREF= " http://home.sol.no/~dusan/chemo_therapy_facts.html " >Chemo therapy</A> http://home.sol.no/~dusan/chemo_therapy_facts.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Does anyone here personally know any cancer or AIDS victims believed to be cured by Dr. 's methods? I have tried to verify some of the cases in her 2 books on cancer, and it is very hard to do. Thank you, Bill Ross Foggschool@... wrote: > <snip> It is the opposition that choses to give deadly chemotherapy to > cancer victims, knowing it will only kill them faster. <snip> Why do conventional physicians do this to their own children when they have cancer? We had a D.O. in our town who lost a daughter to a form of Leukemia last year. It's hard to imagine that he did not look far and wide for something that would offer better odds than chemo. Thanks again, Bill Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Hi , I agree. I've been having discussions for several days about Tim Bolen's opinion piece that you posted here. My friends generally think it is too negative and confrontational, and I disagree. I think the ecological crisis on our planet is such that measures must be taken. Those who have chosen to worship money instead of God (truth) have us in a deathgrip and we're not going to get them to ease up by being oh-so-nice and oh-so-cooperative. I salute those who are resisting the death by pollution that the cartel is forcing upon us. I salute those who are being persecuted (like Dr. ) for telling the truth instead of meekly acquiescing to the AMA/FDA line. It may be too late to change the course of the planet, but it is certain that if we don't take a stand now...in a few decades we will all be too sick to stand at all. We would rather have the soothing glib anchormanlike gentleman's dialogue where everyone is so polite and erudite, but sometimes the shrill, the awkward, even hysterical voices must be heard. Just like sometimes you have to take the epsom salts and cayenne instead of the sugar coated refined carbohydrates. We have to listen sometimes to what we don't want to hear. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 I couldn't agree with you more. One must not battle everything, but choose the battles wisely, and this is a battle that needs a drawn sword. It is getting to the point were good intentions are not enough, action is. Eileen Re: Toxins >From: " Counts " <jcounts@...> > >Hi , > >I agree. I've been having discussions for several days about Tim Bolen's >opinion piece that you posted here. My friends generally think it is too >negative and confrontational, and I disagree. > >I think the ecological crisis on our planet is such that measures must be >taken. Those who have chosen to worship money instead of God (truth) have us >in a deathgrip and we're not going to get them to ease up by being >oh-so-nice and oh-so-cooperative. > > I salute those who are resisting the death by pollution that the cartel is >forcing upon us. I salute those who are being persecuted (like Dr. ) >for telling the truth instead of meekly acquiescing to the AMA/FDA line. > >It may be too late to change the course of the planet, but it is certain >that if we don't take a stand now...in a few decades we will all be too sick >to stand at all. > >We would rather have the soothing glib anchormanlike gentleman's dialogue >where everyone is so polite and erudite, but sometimes the shrill, the >awkward, even hysterical voices must be heard. Just like sometimes you have >to take the epsom salts and cayenne instead of the sugar coated refined >carbohydrates. We have to listen sometimes to what we don't want to hear. > >Regards > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 ><< Why do conventional physicians do this to their own children when they >have cancer? >> I know many allopathic (conventional) doctors, and quite honestly, it is sometimes more ignorance than fear. Many doctors are just as ignorant of the new ways of healing, and alternatives, as many lay people are. Be well, Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 > From: Foggschool@... > > It is my understanding that a physician choosing chemotherapy for his/her own > child is unaware of an alternative medicine, either by chance or by choice. <A > HREF= " http://home.sol.no/~dusan/chemo_therapy_facts.html " >Chemo therapy</A> > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/chemo_therapy_facts.html Foggschool: I read through some of the links you posted. A lot of good info there, but I don't know if it supports your earlier statement of " It is the opposition that choses to give deadly chemotherapy to cancer victims, knowing it will only kill them faster. " I grant you, chemotherapy is controversial, even among many M.D.s., and perhaps in many, even the majority of cases, it is not worth the cost -- I personally just don't know. But there are also many cancer patients out there today who would credit chemo with saving their lives. Even Ralph Moss, who is quoted often by those who condemn chemotherapy, in his book, " Questioning Chemotherapy " page 152 states " There are in fact several reasonable goals that palliative chemotherapy might accomplish. " And on page 8 in that book he states " Namely there are situations where chemotherapy can be a rational and life-saving course. These include most cases of Hodgkin's disease, acute lymphocytic leukemia, and testicular cancer, as well as certain rare cancers, such as Burkitt's lymphoma, rhabdomyosarcomas, and retinoblastoma. It also plays a part, with surgery, in the successful treatment of Wilm's tumor, Ewing's sarcoma, rhabdomyosarcoma, and retinoblastoma. Among the more common adenocarcinomas, chemotherapy appears to extend survival in many cases of ovarian cancer. In small-cell lung cancer there seems to be a survival gain of several months. Its possible value as an adjuvant treatment in breast cancer patients after potentially curative surgery is discussed at length below. Basically, some chemotherapy has its uses; this message will be repeated throughout the text. However, even for the above cancers, chemotherapy remains an often grueling option -- medieval, by many doctors' own admission. Even for these kinds of cancer, effective, less-toxic substitutes are therefore desperately needed. " Do you discount the above opinions of Moss, when you say, " It is the opposition that choses to give deadly chemotherapy to cancer victims, knowing it will only kill them faster. " ? I don't know exactly who the " opposition " is, but according to Moss, they are probably saving or extending a lot of lives. Bill Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 I disagree with Moss if Moss is selling chemotherapy, yes. " Our " bodies have broken down due to the chemical invasion on our organs, resulting in the conditions in question. I must certainly question how a deadly chemical added to an already diseased body could possibly eliminate disease. The medical community will tell you that there are statistics that prove chemo works...in some cases... What they will not tell you, is that the percentage of remissioned cancer also includes those who chose alternative medicine. In other words, they are using the entire group of individuals who went into remission, to calculate their " success " . Thanks for setting me straight on the Bill thing. He was starting to sound like the opposition. Tee Hee. Bill, Steve, I don't think that Hulda's letter group is a good place to practice your medical jargon and rude etiquette. That is just my opinion. I am here to learn more about Hulda. There is absolutely, in no way, anything you can tell me that will make me change the way I feel about her. She DID save my life, but I am not interested in discussing the details with you, as you have shown me that you are blind to even the brightest signs of life. You can hunt me down and put me on the list, but then you will still have my children to deal with and their children......Long live Hulda. Foggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 I am hearing you say (and I have read elsewhere) that chemotherapy extends lives. All well and good if the patient's goal is to survive at any cost. Personally, I'm not sure that I would want to endure the agony which comes from chemo, just to extend my time on this earth by a few months, especially if there were some treatment which would bring about a CURE. I don't think I would call a six-month reprieve a " cure " , anymore than I would say that I had " cured " a diseased appendix by cutting it out. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Do you still have the website you are talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Hi Carol -it is freaky, and disturbing. Again -our member numbers are higher in the more industrial states -and again -NJ is higher than NYC where awareness is the same. Apraxia used to be thought of as rare.... and in some states it still is, mainly nonindustrial ones. Here is what parents in the past faced -and why we will have to work harder to show that not just numbers for apraxia/autism/PDD - but numbers for learning disabled, speech language impaired and MR have gone up in the same states -and numbers overall stayed the same in others over 10 years. We are no longer just talking about just Tom's River -we are talking about everybody's river. http://mdnetguide.net/oncology/v3n2/onc_april/CoverStory_onc.shtml There has again been a four fold rise in autism and a 30 fold rise in speech and language disorders in the past ten years according to the stats from the US Department of Education. And although Dr. Marilyn Agin was misquoted in this recent WebMD article (the 30 fold rise is not due solely to ear infections!!!) So Cara -even though hearing impairments -even temporary ones -are a big issue in regards to speech development -you are correct in that should not be the only aspect looked at for your child. http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/65/72738.htm?pagenumber=1 No matter what -we do know that there are more of our children today than ever before. We need to know why -and what can we do to prevent and help. Does this have to do with subtle myelin delays thus explaining why so many of our children have remarkable surges on the EFAs? There are many industrial toxins which would impair the myelin -and other neurological development. (phenol blocks are used to strip the myelin in medicine -and it's also an industrial toxin that was found rising as a black ooze through the water 10 minutes from where I used to live http://www.thnt.com/thnt/story/0,21282,596491,00.html And in other areas too) Oh and BTW -Dr. Agin, who is aware of this discussion and is one of those helping - is " on call " this week at CHILD magazine " Marilyn Agin, M.D., author of The Late Talker, answers speech disorder questions. " http://www.child.com/kids/index.jsp Like I said before " I suspect that if your child is in the rare percentage where the EFAs do not work -then your child is in the rare percentage that would have had apraxia anyway before the dramatic rise in these conditions ten years ago...I believe the EFAs have either a moderate or dramatic effect depending upon the type of insult neurologically -what the cause of the apraxia/PDD/ADHD etc. is. You can check the zip codes for where you worked and lived at the EPA site http://www.epa.gov They have incredible mapping ability -or you can just do the easy route and put in your zip here http://www.epa.gov/epahome/commsearch.htm " Below is yet another recent article that shows this theory of the toxin/communication impairment link. We know (or would hope) that only a small amount, or more likely no members here, used recreational drugs not approved by their MD while pregnant. This would mean that most likely toxins in our babies must have come the new fashioned way -through the soil, water, and air -or food. Wonder why the heavy emphasis on drug users in the following, and instead of wondering which drugs were used - just check where these children are -or where the parents lived/worked when pregnant - what could have been silent, lurking, and dangerous nearby? Like just for example...did the researchers from Kalamazoo Michagan bother to check their zip code at the EPA instead of wondering about drug use of the parents? I did -and it's not a pretty report. (the zip for Kalamazoo is 49001 and again -the website to do a quick search is http://www.epa.gov/epahome/commsearch.htm ) Thu May 29 12:59:27 2003 Pacific Time Dirty Diapers Help Researchers Pinpoint Fetal Health Risks KALAMAZOO, Mich., May 29 (AScribe Newswire) -- A team of researchers, up to their elbows in more than 800 sets of dirty diapers, have turned the experience into what may be some of the first conclusive evidence that environmental pollutants can impact the health and future prospects of children, even before they're born. Western Michigan University researchers, working in cooperation with Kalamazoo's two major hospitals and Michigan State University's Kalamazoo Center for Medical Studies, have determined that a startling 50 percent of children born in the area during a 10-month period in 2002 were exposed to lead while still in the womb, and about 5 percent of babies born had already suffered lead exposure at levels typically associated with neurological problems. Exposure in the womb to lead and other toxic chemicals was analyzed by collecting blood from umbilical cords as well as meconium samples from the first sets of diapers soiled by newborns. Meconium is the bowel discharge from infants during their first 24 to 48 hours of life and reflects the accumulation of bile secreted during the last five months of gestation. " What we've done is develop a way to look at the earliest potential impact of substances on fetal development, " says Dr. Jay Means, WMU's Gwen Frostic Professor of Environmental Chemistry and Toxicology and the lead researcher. " We know that many of these substances have their most profound effects on the developing child, but so little is known about the exposure of a significant percentage of the population to these substances. This gives us a snapshot of that exposure. " Means says the selection of meconium as a sample to be analyzed along with the cord blood helps rule out the possibility that the babies' exposure came in any way other than through the placental blood barrier. " It's unambiguous, " he says of the resulting data. " As soon as the child starts to nurse or eat from other sources, you raise the possibility of another outside source of contamination. " Beginning in March 2002, Means along with Dr. Liepman, director of psychiatry research at MSU/KCMS, and their team worked with staff members at Borgess Medical Center and Bronson Methodist Hospital to collect nearly 3,000 cord blood and meconium samples from newborns. Of those samples, about 800 were complete paired samples that included both cord blood and meconium. Samples were collected after receiving anonymous informed consent agreements from mothers and were then analyzed to ascertain levels of heavy metals, pesticides, PCBs and herbicides as well as recreational and psychoactive drugs. About 200 randomly selected samples were screened to determine whether and how much of a toxic substance was transferred across the placental blood barrier. Researchers screened the samples using two sophisticated mass spectrometer systems to determine fetal exposure to heavy metals such as lead, mercury, chromium and cadmium; toxic organic compounds like PCBs and dioxins; and such drugs as cannabis, cocaine, methamphetamine and cotinine, which comes from nicotine. In addition to the high levels of lead exposure, researchers found a wide range of exposure to the other measured substances. For instance, PCBs and DDT, which can lead to reduced IQ and other developmental problems, were found in a about 15 percent of the samples. Mercury and cadmium also showed up in 15 percent of the samples, while the tobacco-related compound cotinine was found in more than 30 percent of the samples. But it was the high incidence of lead that stunned the team, Means says. He notes that lead exposure has been linked to mental retardation, seizures, delays in motor development, kidney disease, and problems with bone and tooth development. Means says that their measurement tool--the inductively coupled plasma-mass spectrometer--allows researchers to measure lead in infinitesimal amounts that are far below the levels at which exposure is considered dangerous, according to federal guidelines. But unlike other tools, this one identifies lead with complete certainty. Its presence in so many of the samples is troubling, he says. The team completed an initial round of sample collections at the end of 2002 and, with the results of the analysis in hand, a new round of research is about to begin. The first round was completed on a small budget put together with funds from the WMU Office of Research, the Kalamazoo County Healthy Babies, Healthy Start program, the National Science Foundation and MSU/KCMS. The project owes its initial success to what Means calls " excellent cooperation from the hospitals and the tireless efforts of a dedicated group of undergraduate student researchers. " An anonymous $110,000 grant to WMU's Environmental Institute will help Means launch a new round of research. Goals for the new round include expanding the number of infants from whom complete samples are collected; relating the patterns of exposure to geographical, demographic and dietary data; and adding gene expression analysis to the tests run on the samples to determine which genes show signs of being activated or repressed by exposure to the various toxic chemicals. He also plans to add other substances of concern to the list of those being studied--like polybrominated diphenyl ether, commonly known as PBDE, a synthetic fire retardant chemical used in textiles. The collection of data about demographics and diet will help pinpoint the source of exposure, says Means, and the zip code data will allow his team to cross reference their data with known pollution " hot spots " being documented by WMU's Great Lakes Center for Environmental and Molecular Sciences. One last change to the research protocol would ease the scientists' concern, but to accomplish it, the team may have to avoid analyzing samples for illegal substances. Because of the possibility of finding traces of illegal substances, the blood cord and meconium samples were collected anonymously. " Without anonymity, state requirements to report children who have been exposed to drugs of abuse during pregnancy would make it impossible to get cooperation from mothers who abuse drugs, " notes Mean's research colleague Liepman. But because the samples are collected anonymously, researchers now have no way to provide feedback to parents whose children may be at risk from high exposure levels. " That's disturbing, " Means says. " Ideally we'd like to inform them of the problem so they can seek help. And, we'd like to follow up with additional testing of the children down the road and the involvement of other professionals who can help, like speech pathologists and those with neurological expertise. " Liepman agrees and sees a world of potential benefit from the project. " It is possible we have stumbled upon the cause for a lot of learning problems, such as dyslexia and attention deficit disorder and other behavior problems of children in our schools, " Liepman speculates. http://www.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/spew4th.pl?ascribeid=20030529.113118 & time=12%2059\ %20PDT & year=2003 & public=1 ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 I'm curious. My daughter is adopted and while not apraxic she has experienced speech/language delay, has some fine motor delays, has mildly low tone and has now (at almost age six) been diagnosed PDD-NOS. Her pre-natal history included drug use (cocaine) and smoking by birth mother. After reading extensively on the website and in other locations I began her on a regimen of Pro-EFA. My husband has been using fish oil for years with good results and has now added borage oil. I have noticed subtle things - like engaging in more interactive conversations, more initiating conversations, more patience in figuring things out, etc. So, what I'm curious about is is this typical for chuildren with other diagnoses? I appreciate the dialog on this list. mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Sue wrote: > > After doing a coffee enema is it possible to have diareah the get rid > of the toxins? that is kinda what happened to me today after > yesterdays coffee enema? Any connection? ==>Yes, it is possible. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I was tested through my local lab and my levels were not high. You can ask your doctor. Women who have had Mentor implants can get a free test. Contact Keeling, keeling.mworldnet (DOT) att.net Bindi toxins What kind of doctor can test for those Platium toxins? Has anyone been tested? What were the findings?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Keeling's CANDO foundation offers platinum testing to some of our women. Check this out at: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/CaNdo.htm > > What kind of doctor can test for those Platium toxins? Has anyone been > tested? What were the findings? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Sue exercising and sweating is vastly superior to soaking in detox minerals for detoxing, but you may benefit from both. Exercise also moves the lymph considerably; the lymph can only move with muscle flex, acceleration and deceleration, and the muscle cells can't tell the difference between acceleration and deceleration, which is why even bouncing on a mini-tramp in a sit bounce tones up lots of muscles that are not directly involved, and moves lymph, your vehicle for cellular waste, oxygen and nutrition, many times better than jogging. Don't they say about 10 minutes of sweating out of a 20-min workout three times a week? That would be for cardio/calorie expenditure; me, I'm pretty active plus I walk my dog for 35 minutes four times a day in more of a hunter-gatherer pace with some running and trail hiking in bursts and some flat walking (and this month some swimming too!). Duncan > > does anyone know if exercising and sweating is the > same in regards to removing toxins as soaking in detox > materials? > > I am just beginning exercise and want to know how long > youneed to build up a sweat to be benificial. > > sue > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Hi Sue, I recently asked about that, to the biochemist that is helping me with my health. She has recommended that I sauna 3-4x/week. When I asked if my daily sweating out in the yard shoveling manure, etc. was just as good, she said " no " because you are not getting the same amount of direct heat that you would sitting in the sauna. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/ ~One can always be kind to people about whom one cares nothing.~ -- Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891 > does anyone know if exercising and sweating is the > same in regards to removing toxins as soaking in detox > materials? > > I am just beginning exercise and want to know how long > youneed to build up a sweat to be benificial. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 , when you do the sauna's how long do you stay in there? do y ou drink anything special while in there? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/mail/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Well, if I did them like I am supposed to do ;-) I am supposed to stay in for 30 minutes if I can. Get out if you start to feel light-headed or yucky. She told me to shower first, to open the pores and and get any grime/toxins off my body. Get in the prewarmed sauna at 160 to 170F. Bring a large glass of water (or more) and a towel. She said to wipe off the sweat as you sweat (to allow you to sweat more and so you don't reabsorb the toxins), but keep the towel outside the sauna (again, so you don't breath in or absorb the toxins in the sweat), and drink lots of water. Then when you are finished, get in the shower again, and wash all the toxins off your skin (of course using a natural soap, no parabans and all that other toxic crap). If anyone is nterested, her website is www.vitaroyal.com. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/ ~One can always be kind to people about whom one cares nothing.~ -- Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891 > > , > > when you do the sauna's how long do you stay in there? > do y ou drink anything special while in there? > > sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hi, Do you know if you can get the same benefits in a steam room as a sauna? I tend to prefer the wet heat over the dry heat. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/241/170 --- Ives <mmives@...> wrote: > Well, if I did them like I am supposed to do ;-) I > am supposed to stay in > for 30 minutes if I can. Get out if you start to > feel light-headed or > yucky. She told me to shower first, to open the > pores and and get any > grime/toxins off my body. Get in the prewarmed sauna > at 160 to 170F. Bring > a large glass of water (or more) and a towel. She > said to wipe off the sweat > as you sweat (to allow you to sweat more and so you > don't reabsorb the > toxins), but keep the towel outside the sauna > (again, so you don't breath in > or absorb the toxins in the sweat), and drink lots > of water. Then when you > are finished, get in the shower again, and wash all > the toxins off your skin > (of course using a natural soap, no parabans and all > that other toxic crap). > > If anyone is nterested, her website is > www.vitaroyal.com. ------------- Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 The dry sauna is supposed to be better, I beleive because it promotes more sweating, and the humidity/moisure can be an issue for people with adrenal fatigue and other metabolic problems (those who need to detox the most). Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/ ~One can always be kind to people about whom one cares nothing.~ -- Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891 > > Do you know if you can get the same benefits in a > steam room as a sauna? I tend to prefer the wet heat > over the dry heat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Thanks , good to know! Luv, Debby San , CA 380/240/180 --- Ives <mmives@...> wrote: > The dry sauna is supposed to be better, I beleive > because it promotes more > sweating, and the humidity/moisure can be an issue > for people with adrenal > fatigue and other metabolic problems (those who need > to detox the most). ------------- Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hi Amy, The same thing happens to me, too. I don't think it is that you are becoming more sensitive in that your body can't handle these things anymore. I think it is more of case that now that your body is getting stronger, it recognizes toxic elements more acutely and is basically telling to stay away from those things. Of course, this is not the scientific explanation; it's just my interpretation of things! > > I notice now that when I smell strong product scents (i.e. husband's shaving cream) it burns my throat when it used to smell good to me?! Is my body figuring out what is toxic and becoming more sensitive to toxins? > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 > > > > > > I notice now that when I smell strong product scents (i.e. husband's shaving cream) it burns my throat when it used to smell good to me?! Is my body figuring out what is toxic and becoming more sensitive to toxins? > > Amy > > > Amy this happens to me too now that I am on Bee's diet. I get a burning feeling in my throat and within some minutes I start having headache and feeling tired. I can't even polish my nails anymore.. I wish the explanation of is right! I like that theory..... Marisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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