To all

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--- rivrfolk@... wrote:

> From: rivrfolk@...

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> Dear Board

> First of all I would like to thank everyone for all

> the wonderful messages of support and information.

> Without this board I would be dead, I firmly believe

> that. I have had a run of 7,

> a whole 7, wonderful glorious days of being symptom

> free!!!! I only hope this is the beginning of a

> remission. I am now on Mepron/Zithro combo;. The

> first 5 days were hell, but now I am reaping the

> benefits. For all you newbies, hang in there and

> urge your docs to test for co-infections. It makes

> a world of difference in the treatment plan. For

> all the Dads - Happy Father's Day. I hope you are

> all having a painfree, feel-good day. God Bless to

> All and thanks again.

> Terry in Georgia

>

> Terry-

I am SO happy to hear you have had 7 great days. That is just another

glimmer of hope for the rest of to hear success stories like yours. May

you have many many more of these days. Keep us posted.

L

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can i be so bold to ask, what co-infections would i ask to be tested for?

>From: rivrfolk@...

>

>Dear Board

>First of all I would like to thank everyone for all the wonderful messages

of support and information. Without this board I would be dead, I firmly

believe that. I have had a run of 7,

>a whole 7, wonderful glorious days of being symptom free!!!! I only hope

this is the beginning of a remission. I am now on Mepron/Zithro combo;. The

first 5 days were hell, but now I am reaping the benefits. For all you

newbies, hang in there and urge your docs to test for co-infections. It

makes a world of difference in the treatment plan. For all the Dads - Happy

Father's Day. I hope you are all having a painfree, feel-good day. God

Bless to All and thanks again.

>Terry in Georgia

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[Guest guest]

terry......glad u r feeling so good......cherish the good days......for some

of us they are few and far between......am thinking on going on zitro and

mepron....( since i have that va doc who says that i know more than she does

and for me to pick my meds......have heard alot of good about it.......like

bicilian but am really not in the mood to have a sore butt this

summer........oh well....

Reid

ps things are going pretty good with me and the wife .....thanks group keep

up the prayers...we can use them.....maybe we both scared ourselves enuff to

realize we need to start really talking again....and giving each other some

space.......(hey im spacey enuff......lyme brain.....oh well) thanks again

everyone

[Guest guest]

Hi Reid,

Keep up the talking, maybe things will work out.

Connie, MI

[Guest guest]

,

I saved this mail to respond to, and four days have gone by, can't recall

if anyone answered you. In my humble opinion the coinfections we should all

be tested for are Babesiosis, HME and HGE (the Ehrlichiosis diseases) as

well as Lyme. Not sure if there are tests for the rarer diseases, like

Rocky Mt Spotted fever or Tularemia, but I guess there are....

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: mimianne@...

>

>can i be so bold to ask, what co-infections would i ask to be tested for?

>

[Guest guest]

Leona,

I am so sorry to hear about your shitty week----stop, take some deep

breathes. You never know how thing are going to affect you, and you will be

weaning down on the prednisone----the other thing is, is your doctor aware

that some doctors are able to treat AIH with the Actigall or Urso alone and

not the prednisone. Please talk to your doctor about your other

options-----ask him to try this before you go on the prenisone. Ask the

group about other options if you feel that this is going to be something that

will really bother you----Dr. Lindor at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester,

Minnesota is doing a study on treating AIH with the Urso. Please check into

this. If you don't have to take the prednisone don't. I wish I was there to

give you a big hug----I will be sending lots of healing white light your

way----Joan in PA

[Guest guest]

Dear Leona,

What a horrible week. Sounds like someone turned the light out at the end

of the tunnel. things have to get better. At least you dont have to have a

baby without a live in father.

J

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>Leona,

>I am so sorry to hear about your shitty week----stop, take some deep

>breathes. You never know how thing are going to affect you, and you will

>be

>weaning down on the prednisone----the other thing is, is your doctor aware

>that some doctors are able to treat AIH with the Actigall or Urso alone and

>not the prednisone. Please talk to your doctor about your other

>options-----ask him to try this before you go on the prenisone. Ask the

>group about other options if you feel that this is going to be something

>that

>will really bother you----Dr. Lindor at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester,

>Minnesota is doing a study on treating AIH with the Urso. Please check

>into

>this. If you don't have to take the prednisone don't. I wish I was there

>to

>give you a big hug----I will be sending lots of healing white light your

>way----Joan in PA

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Leona: Sorry to hear about your troubles. The baby and going back on the

medicine. I want you to know that you may get heavy again but you are the

same person and you just remember that you are still the same person but a

little fluffy. I have had trouble with the medicine and the weight gain and

nothing seems to help. So stick in there and better days will come.

You are in my prayers.

Sue AIH

Wisconsin

[Guest guest]

Im sorry Leona, that you are going through such a hard

time. Please remember things WILL get better. Your

going through a hard period. Thats what it is, just a

period, and things will be on the up again.

In regard to being concerned about appearances, im

guilty of that to. I feel if I was fat, or had a beard

or goaty, I would have nothing. Its just not true. If

you would ask anyone that if you gained weight on

pred. you would still have your looks, its true!

Your boyfriends gone? Just say GOOD RIDDANCE! and wait

for that cutie around the corner. There is more than

one out there.

You are in great medical hands, and that is the most

important thing at the moment.

Just remember we are all here for you, whenever you

feel down.

Elena

--- Leona Singleton <lona@...> wrote:

> From: Leona Singleton <lona@...>

>

> WELL.. I HAVE HAD A HELL OF A SHITTY WEEK.

> LAST FRIDAY I BROKE UP WITH MY BOYFRIEND... I HAD A

> PREGNANCY TEST ON SATURDAY AS I WAS 3 WEEKS LATE...

> TEST CAME UP POSITIVE... I WAS REALLY DOWN SO I HIT

> THE ALCOHOL... SUNDAY NIGHT DID THE SAME...

> MONDAY I WENT TO NEW GASTROENTEROLOGIST... I LEFT IN

>

> ABSOLUTE TEARS..

> ILL START WITH THE GOOD NEWS... I AM IN WITH THE

> BEST

> IN MY STATE... HE IS THE HEAD OF THE LIVER

> TRANSPLANT

> UNIT IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA AND HE IS AMAZING.. I HAVE

>

> NEVER MET A DOC LIKE HIM... COMPASSIONATE.. TOUCHY

> FEELY, JUST ABSOLUTLEY WONDERFUL... ACCEPT FOR THE

> NEWS THAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH.

> WELL... HE WENT THROUGH MY WHOLE MEDICAL HISTORY

> AND HE SAID HE HAS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT I

> DEFINATLEY HAVE AIH.. HE FELT MY BELLY AND STUFF...

> TALK ABOUT TOUCH OF GOD.. HE SAID JUST BY FEELING

> THAT MY LIFER IS INFLAMMED AND SOME OTHER ORGANS..

> UM HE SAID THE PRACTICE OF MY LAST

> GASTROENTEROLOGIST WAS NOT RIGHT... AS IN PUTTING ME

>

> ON PRED THEN TAKING ME OFF AND ME RELAPSING THEN

> PUTTING ME ON AGAIN AND THEN TAKING ME OFF.. HE SAID

>

> HE WOULD ONLY DO IT ONCE AND IF I WAS TO RELAPSE HE

> WOULD PUT ME BACK ON PRED FOR GOOD..AS ONCE YOU

> HAVE A RELAPSE AND ARE TAKEN OFF PRED THEN 85% YOU

> WILL HAVE ANOTHER OR SOMETHING.. AND MY RELAPSES

> HAVE CAUSED ME A LOT OF UNNESSECARY DAMAGE TO MY

> LIVER...

> I AM DEFFINATLEY HAVING ANOTHER RELAPSE.. HE HAD PUT

>

> ME ON 40MG PRED AND WEANING ME DOWN TO 25MG.. THEN

> HE IS INTRODUCING IMURAN AND ONCE THAT KICKS IN HE

> WILL LOWER THE PRED WITHIN THE NEXT 2 YEARS TO

> 7 1/2MG. WELL THAT GOT ME A LOT UPSET.. HEARING

> ABOUT ALL YOU AND NOW KNOWING THAT I AM GOING TO GO

> FROM A SIZE 8 TO ABOUT 12-14 AND HAVE MOON FACE AND

> GROW FACIAL HAIR... I CONSIDDER MYSELF TO BE A

> PRETTY

> PERSON AND NOW I WONT BE.. I AM SO SCARRED. I KNOW

> APPEREANCE ISNT EVERYTHING BUT IT IS A LOT TO ME..

> WELL.. HE SENT ME TO PATHOLOGIST AND THEY DID 12

> DIFFERENT BLOOD TESTS.. I GET THE RESULTS BACK IN 1

> 1/2

> WEEKS WHEN I SEE HIM NEXT.

> ON A DIFFERENT NOTE

> ON TUESDAY I WENT TO THE GYNECHOLOGIST FOR MY

> COLPOSCOPY. I HAVE AN OVARIAN CYST.. AND I HAVE

> LEISIONS ON MY CERVIX... I HAD AN ULTRASOUND AND THE

>

> FETUS IS DEAD.. I HAVE TO HAVE A CURETTE. SOUNDS

> LIKE

> FUN HEY. WELL... THAT JUST ABOUT SUMS UP MY WEEK...

>

> OH AND I HAVE MADE AN APPOINTLENT AT ONE OF THOSE

> MODDELING PHOTO PLACES WHERE THEY DRESS YOU UP

> BEAUTIFUL AND TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU... I CANT WAIT..

> I

> FIGURE ILL GET THAT DONT WHILE I LOOK GOOD COS IT

> ISNT

> GOING TO LAST LONG

> ANYWAYS I HAD BETTER GO SO ILL CATCH UP WITH YOU ALL

>

> LATER... SORRY I HAVENT WRITTEN IN A WHILE BUT I

> HAVE

> BEEN BUSY :/

> REGARDS

> LEONA SINGLETON AIH, WESTERN AUSTRALIA

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks Art for the " stash " . You really " out-did " yourself this time!

Mike

[ ] To all

> Hi everyone -

>

>

> Here's very interesting site regarding alterantive cancer treatments

> somebody in the group quietly posted about 6 months ago. 16 different

> approaches - some of which we never hear about. What a find. Wish I knew

who

> it was.

>

> http://www.royalrife.com/cancer.html

>

> The rest of this site is good too - much top grade info here.

>

> - Art

>

>

>

> Learn more about cancer:

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Art and all,

The person who has written the 16 alternative cancer treatments referenced

below is Dick Lloyd, Ph.D. in Nutrition and an outstanding source of

information about the real protocols to follow for health improvementt. He

is an expert on many health protocols, including but not limited to diets,

natural approaches and also Bio-Electronic ways to kill/zap all kinds of

viruses, bacteria and parasites. In addition, he make his own machines for

Rife Technology or can point you in the right direction on current Rife

Technology. He is a prolific writer and true humanitarian, It would do

everyone a world of good to follow his links. I hope I interpreted your

question correctly " Wish I knew who it was. " I have followed him on the

Rife list and have entered his web site many times in search og good solid

advise. Good luck and good reading, Mike Cinelli

======================================

At 09:36 PM 10/5/00 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi everyone -

>

>

>Here's very interesting site regarding alterantive cancer treatments

>somebody in the group quietly posted about 6 months ago. 16 different

>approaches - some of which we never hear about. What a find. Wish I knew who

>it was.

>

>http://www.royalrife.com/cancer.html

>

>The rest of this site is good too - much top grade info here.

>

>- Art

>

>

>

>Learn more about cancer:

>http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

>http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

>http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

>http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158

>

>You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

egroups.

[Guest guest]

Mike

Can you give me the Rife list address? I have a Bare-Rife and need updates

and information on frequencies. Do you have a Rife? If so which kind?

Ann

[Guest guest]

Anybody here heard of this item?

I copied this from the beck group.

michael

wrote the below. 

 

In response: I have personal experience in my family with MGN-3, and think

it is wonderful and I now sell it at a discount.  I think it is wonderful. 

Anyone interested can get it from me at $42.00 a bottle.  Postage is $3.20

for up to 4 bottles.

 

Be well,

Donna

[beck-n-stuff] MGN3 Immune System Booster

Hi,

It would be premature to announce it as one seeming gold nugget of

much foregoing alt health efforts, but the below article makes a lot

of sense. It's emphasis on boosting the immune system seems valuable.

What it says meshes with so much that has gone before that it

couldn't be casually glossed over. Atleast some exploration seems

warranted. I've heard/read a couple of anecdotal stories of good

outcomes.

MGN3 is not available in New Zealand, see below link for purchasing.

It's too soon to know exactly what it's all about. Hopefully i'll

have more experience with it soon. It's just something to ponder for

now, not sure how much to believe yet, but boosting the immune system

always makes the best sense.

One Supplier:

http://www.vitacost.com/products/brandsaz/lanelabs/mgn3.html

Take care

Chris

Research/Journal Articles :

http://www.publishedresearch.com/MGN3/MGN3.html

From:  http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm

The work of one particular doctor, Dr. Mamdooh Ghoneum, is

undoubtedly going to awaken many in conventional medicine to the

enormous benefits of using natural immune-enhancing compounds.

Dr. Ghoneum works with the Department of Immunology at Drew

University in Los Angeles. For the last six years he has been working

on an amazing product called MGN-3. Dr. Ghoneum was educated in Egypt

and Japan, and he continues to spend much of his time in those

countries. His work with MGN-3 began in Japan, where is quite well

known. As with most new therapies, his initial research was performed

in vitro and later using animal models. Although the results were

extremely positive, he refused to publicize the data until he was

sure the similar results could be duplicated in humans. In a world

where new fads based on just the slightest hint of benefit pop up

almost daily, it's refreshing and unusual to meet someone willing to

forgo publicity in an effort to perform actual human studies. For

this, Dr. Ghoneum is to be highly commended.

Thanks to Dr. Ghoneum, we now have excellent research data to show

that MGN-3 is likely the most powerful human immune system booster on

the market today, prescription or otherwise. Even more amazing is the

fact that it has no known side effects. The implications this

substance could have on your personal health are astounding.

(Read the rest at http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm )

From:  http://www.datadepo.com/cures for cancer/mgn3.htm

MGN3

Cancer, it would seem, is a mystery, and to paraphrase Ernst. T.

Krebs, since no one really knows how to cure the illness, it is

possible for everyone to be an expert. There are many theories

regarding cancer; from parasites to viruses, from carcinogens to

toxicity in our foods, from the presence of ectopic germs to a lack

of pancreatic enzyme production. One or all of these could well be

true, but the one thing all theorists do agree upon, is the

compromisation of the immune system.

" In the 1970s, virologists discovered that animal retrovirus

infection (similar to the AIDS virus) could cause an increase in

lymphoma and leukemia in the animals, as well as immuno suppression.

In 1983, a year before the official discovery of HIV, Harvard

veterinarian Myron Essex found that 25% of gay AIDS patients had

viral antibodies to blood from a case of " human T-cell leukemia, "

caused by a new retrovirus called " human T-cell leukemia virus-1. "

When Gallo announced his discovery of the AIDS virus in 1984,

he believed the virus was related to this new family of leukemia

viruses. Thus, he first named the AIDS virus 'Human T-cell leukemia

virus-3.' Later, the virus was renamed HIV: the human immuno-

deficiency virus. When the AIDS virus (HIV) was introduced into the

gay community in the late 1970s, the incidence of Kaposi's sarcoma (a

previously rare form of cancer), as well as the incidence of Non-

Hodgkin's disease, began to skyrocket in HIV-infected gay men. Both

types of cancer had previously been associated with immuno-

depression. " (1)

Doctor Alan Cantwell tells us that clusters of cases involving

Hodgkin's lymphoma have been detected for many years suggesting that

some kind of " disease agent " could be involved and goes on to say

that " Some scientists are now suspecting a possible cancer causing

retrovirus " similar to the AIDs virus.

Dr Sam Chachoua from Australia, reported in the June/July 1998 issue

of Nexus magazine that when a group of leukaemia patients were

treated by wiping out their own bone marrow and giving them bone

marrow from a donor, the leukaemia returned in a number of the

patients. DNA checks showed that the new, second bout of leukaemia,

consisted of cells which had belonged to the donor. The patient's

original bone marrow had all been removed and this time it was the

donor's bone marrow which had turned into leukaemia cells. As Doctor

Vernon tells us " the cause of the cancer is in the patient

and merely trying to wipe out cancer cells isn't enough. "

observed in his book Bodypower that the body's self healing

mechanisms are so effective that in nine out of ten illnesses the

body will deal with any disorder itself - without any outside

intervention.

Successful alternative cancer therapies have two things in common,

all improve the health and vitality of the body's immune system and

all help eradicate chemical toxins from the body. " The alternative

cancer therapies which work offer diets which are rich in vitamin-

packed organic fruit and vegetables and low in toxic chemicals. They

also encourage patients to learn how to relax and to find some peace

in their lives. It doesn't matter whether the peace comes through

meditation, relaxation, religion or love and comfort applied by

people who care The real benefit from these alternative approaches to

cancer comes from the boost the immune system gets from the absence

of stress and the high natural vitamin content of the fruit and

vegetable enriched diet. " (2)

Vernon suggests that " if you don' t want to get cancer - or

you have cancer and you want to get rid of it - then I believe that

the answer is clear: you must reduce your intake of and exposure to

toxins and build up your immune system so that it can work harder to

defend your body. With an immune system working well you will be less

likely to develop cancer. And if you develop cancer then it is my

belief that your body will be better able to turn up the boost on its

body power if you improve the efficiency of your immune system and

reduce your exposure to toxins " (2)

When pursuing an alternative approach to cancer healing, it becomes

obvious that such approaches involve boosting an immune system that

has been depleted through the onset of disease, or perhaps even

before such onset, through the ingestion of toxic chemicals in

insidious doses that either work synergistically or are capable of

latent storage until a " critical mass " is developed within the body.

It would make sense then, to boost the immune system and not only for

overcoming cancer. Any illness can be traced, at least in some part,

to a depleted immune system.

When Doctor Max Gerson, one of the pioneers of natural healing in the

twentieth century, attended medical university in Germany, he

discovered a way to assist his body to cure itself of migraine

headaches. Through a gradual process of trial and elimination, Gerson

developed a " migraine diet " which he later recommended to his

patients. Doctor Gerson was able to heal the previously incurable,

lupus vulgaris skin tuberculosis, asthma, allergies, high blood

pressure and more. He was no longer treating the symptoms of disease

as were his peers in orthodox medicine, but the body as a whole.

Gerson recognised the breakdown of the body's defence system and so,

his treatment became one in which the immune system was bolstered.

Later the Gerson treatments were to include far more than those early

diets of apples and no salt or milk and recognised the ingestion of

toxins through poorly grown foods, lack of minerals because of

substandard and depleted soils and recognised the widely used and

acceptable poisons of today's society such as salt, alcohol and

tobacco. Gerson stressed the importance of detoxification, juicing

and even coffee enemas, but the total healing of the Gerson Therapy,

although essentially metabolic, was achieved after improvement of the

immune system.

The famous Ojibway Indian recipe now known as Essiac, renowned for

it's ability to assist in the healing of cancer does so, in part,

because of increased immune system activity. An immune system,

operating at optimum levels is able to withstand the onslaught and

ravages of virus and disease and is the key to wellness and healing

for all illnesses, not just cancer In modern times a great movement

away from the use of toxic drugs has emerged. A renewed growth in

interest in the use of organic foods, herbs and vitamins used for

healing is increasing world wide and has lead to a resurgence and

modification of such " natural " immune system builders such as MGN-3.

More than a decade before the turn of the century a patent was issued

in Japan for a method of producing an immuno-potentiator comprising

of extracting a plant material from a member of the plant family

Poaceae and culturing any one of Asp Oryzae of the Aspergillaceae and

Lentinus edodes to obtain an enzyme complex. The US patent

application states that " immuno-potentiators have a variety of

applications as foodstuffs and drugs. It is known that aging and

stress lower the animal immunity and as such, we easily suffer from

various diseases. A new branch of nutritional chemistry which tries

to fortify human immunity by improving the daily diet is in a new

stage of development in consideration of the importance of

preventative medicine. In a cancer therapy, the use of an immuno-

potentiator with a chemotherapeutic drug and radiotherapy has

demonstrated an excellent therapeutic effect.

The present inventor found effectiveness of modification of a natural

material using the Hyphomytes in developing and activating natural

killer cells (NK cells) in the human immune system.... The activity

of NK cells of patients was measured to determine the effects of the

above ... (MGN-3). To eliminate the influences of other drugs,

administration of all drugs was inhibited for one month before

measurement. Six grams... were orally administered for each patient

per day. The activity of the NK cells was 34.5LU in the beginning.

The activity rose to 66.5LU in two weeks. Even if the administration

was stopped, the activity was kept at high level (64LU) for two

months. " (3)

MGN-3 immunomodulator function was examined in 27 cancer patients

with differing types of advanced malignancies. 7 patients had breast

cancer, 7 prostate cancer, 8 had multiple myeloma, 3 had leukemia and

2 suffered from cervical cancer. In addition to orthodox therapy,

all patients were given MGN-3 daily. NK cell activity was examined

at two weeks, three months and six months using K562 tumor cells as

targets. The results showed that patients had low level of basal NK

activity (10.8-40%). After just two weeks the percentages of

induction showed  in the patients with breast cancer 154-332%,

prostatic cancer 174- 384%, leukemia 100-240%, multiple myeloma 100-

537% and cervical  cancer 100-275% (4)

MGN-3 has demonstrated a significant increase in T and B cell mitogen

response in HIV patients and Ghoneum concluded that " MGN-3 posses

potent anti-HIV activity and in the absence of any notable side

effects, MGN-3 shows promise as an agent for treating patients with

AIDs. " MGN-3 " was examined for it's augmentory effect on human

natural killer cell activity in vivo and in vitro. Twenty four

individuals were given MGN-3 orally at three different

concentrations: 15,30,and 45mg/kg/day for two months. Peripheral

blood lymphocyte-natural killer cell activity was tested by 51CR-

release assay against K562 and Raji tumor cells at one week, one

month and two months post treatment and results were compiled with

baseline natural killer cell activity

Treatment with MGN-3 enhanced natural killer cell activity against

K562 tumor cells at all concentrations used. In a dose-dependent

manner, MGN-3 at 15mg/kg/day increased natural killer activity after

one month post treatment (two fold over control value), while

significant induction of natural killer activity at 30 mg/kg/day was

detected as early as one week post treatment (2 1/2 times control

value). Natural killer cell activity continued to increase with

continuation of treatment and peaked (five fold) at two months (end

of treatment period). Increasing the concentration to 45 mg/kg/day

showed similar trends in natural killer activity. However the

magnitude in values was higher than for 30 mg/kg/day. After

discontinuation of treatment, natural killer cell activity declined

and returned to baseline value (14 lytic units) at one month.

Enhanced natural killer cell activity was associated with an increase

in the cytotoxic reactivity against the resistant Raji cell line.

MGN- 3 at 45 mg/kg/day showed a significant increase in natural

killer cell activity after one week (eight fold) and peaked at two

months post treatment (27 times that of baseline). Culture of

peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 for sixteen hours

demonstrated to a 1.3  to 1.5 times increase in natural killer

activity over the control  value. The mechanism by which MGN-3

increases natural killer cell  activity was examined and showed no

change in cluster of  differentiation (CD) 16+ and CD56+CD3+ of MGN-3

activated natural killer cells as compared with baseline value; a

four fold increase in the binding capacity of natural killer (cells)

to tumor cell targets as compared with baseline value; and a

significant increase in the production of interferon-y (340-580

pg/ml).

Postculture of peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 at

concentrations of 25-100 pg/ml. Thus, MGN-3 seems to act as a potent

immunomodulator causing augmentation of natural killer cell activity,

and with the absence of notable side-effects, MGN-3 could be used as

a new biological response modifier having possible therapeutic

effects against cancer. " (5)

Dr. Alan Cantwell Whale www

The Real Cause Of Cancer And The Solution by Dr Vernon

US Patent and Trademark Office patent application 5560914.,Oct.1996

Ghoneum M, Namatalla G, 87th. Annual Meeting of the American Assoc.

Cancer Research April 1996

Ghoneum. M; International Journal of Immunotherapy XIV (I).1998

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[Guest guest]

Yes, MGN3 is excellent stuff. Developed at Drew University in Los Angeles by

Egyptian sceintist Mamdoon Ghoneum (sp?) over a period of 7 years. Contains

mushroom and other extracts. Patent held by a Japanese pharmaceutical co.

Results in tremendous boost to the immune system. Written up in the Journal

of Immunology in 1998.

$42 is as low as I have seen it. A local health food store near me sells

theirs for $60. (!) See also www.mgn3.net.

- Art

abrown101@...

[beck-n-stuff] MGN3 Immune System Booster

Hi,

It would be premature to announce it as one seeming gold nugget of

much foregoing alt health efforts, but the below article makes a lot

of sense. It's emphasis on boosting the immune system seems valuable.

What it says meshes with so much that has gone before that it

couldn't be casually glossed over. Atleast some exploration seems

warranted. I've heard/read a couple of anecdotal stories of good

outcomes.

MGN3 is not available in New Zealand, see below link for purchasing.

It's too soon to know exactly what it's all about. Hopefully i'll

have more experience with it soon. It's just something to ponder for

now, not sure how much to believe yet, but boosting the immune system

always makes the best sense.

One Supplier:

http://www.vitacost.com/products/brandsaz/lanelabs/mgn3.html

Take care

Chris

Research/Journal Articles :

http://www.publishedresearch.com/MGN3/MGN3.html

From: http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm

The work of one particular doctor, Dr. Mamdooh Ghoneum, is

undoubtedly going to awaken many in conventional medicine to the

enormous benefits of using natural immune-enhancing compounds.

Dr. Ghoneum works with the Department of Immunology at Drew

University in Los Angeles. For the last six years he has been working

on an amazing product called MGN-3. Dr. Ghoneum was educated in Egypt

and Japan, and he continues to spend much of his time in those

countries. His work with MGN-3 began in Japan, where is quite well

known. As with most new therapies, his initial research was performed

in vitro and later using animal models. Although the results were

extremely positive, he refused to publicize the data until he was

sure the similar results could be duplicated in humans. In a world

where new fads based on just the slightest hint of benefit pop up

almost daily, it's refreshing and unusual to meet someone willing to

forgo publicity in an effort to perform actual human studies. For

this, Dr. Ghoneum is to be highly commended.

Thanks to Dr. Ghoneum, we now have excellent research data to show

that MGN-3 is likely the most powerful human immune system booster on

the market today, prescription or otherwise. Even more amazing is the

fact that it has no known side effects. The implications this

substance could have on your personal health are astounding.

(Read the rest at http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm )

From: http://www.datadepo.com/cures for cancer/mgn3.htm

MGN3

Cancer, it would seem, is a mystery, and to paraphrase Ernst. T.

Krebs, since no one really knows how to cure the illness, it is

possible for everyone to be an expert. There are many theories

regarding cancer; from parasites to viruses, from carcinogens to

toxicity in our foods, from the presence of ectopic germs to a lack

of pancreatic enzyme production. One or all of these could well be

true, but the one thing all theorists do agree upon, is the

compromisation of the immune system.

" In the 1970s, virologists discovered that animal retrovirus

infection (similar to the AIDS virus) could cause an increase in

lymphoma and leukemia in the animals, as well as immuno suppression.

In 1983, a year before the official discovery of HIV, Harvard

veterinarian Myron Essex found that 25% of gay AIDS patients had

viral antibodies to blood from a case of " human T-cell leukemia, "

caused by a new retrovirus called " human T-cell leukemia virus-1. "

When Gallo announced his discovery of the AIDS virus in 1984,

he believed the virus was related to this new family of leukemia

viruses. Thus, he first named the AIDS virus 'Human T-cell leukemia

virus-3.' Later, the virus was renamed HIV: the human immuno-

deficiency virus. When the AIDS virus (HIV) was introduced into the

gay community in the late 1970s, the incidence of Kaposi's sarcoma (a

previously rare form of cancer), as well as the incidence of Non-

Hodgkin's disease, began to skyrocket in HIV-infected gay men. Both

types of cancer had previously been associated with immuno-

depression. " (1)

Doctor Alan Cantwell tells us that clusters of cases involving

Hodgkin's lymphoma have been detected for many years suggesting that

some kind of " disease agent " could be involved and goes on to say

that " Some scientists are now suspecting a possible cancer causing

retrovirus " similar to the AIDs virus.

Dr Sam Chachoua from Australia, reported in the June/July 1998 issue

of Nexus magazine that when a group of leukaemia patients were

treated by wiping out their own bone marrow and giving them bone

marrow from a donor, the leukaemia returned in a number of the

patients. DNA checks showed that the new, second bout of leukaemia,

consisted of cells which had belonged to the donor. The patient's

original bone marrow had all been removed and this time it was the

donor's bone marrow which had turned into leukaemia cells. As Doctor

Vernon tells us " the cause of the cancer is in the patient

and merely trying to wipe out cancer cells isn't enough. "

observed in his book Bodypower that the body's self healing

mechanisms are so effective that in nine out of ten illnesses the

body will deal with any disorder itself - without any outside

intervention.

Successful alternative cancer therapies have two things in common,

all improve the health and vitality of the body's immune system and

all help eradicate chemical toxins from the body. " The alternative

cancer therapies which work offer diets which are rich in vitamin-

packed organic fruit and vegetables and low in toxic chemicals. They

also encourage patients to learn how to relax and to find some peace

in their lives. It doesn't matter whether the peace comes through

meditation, relaxation, religion or love and comfort applied by

people who care The real benefit from these alternative approaches to

cancer comes from the boost the immune system gets from the absence

of stress and the high natural vitamin content of the fruit and

vegetable enriched diet. " (2)

Vernon suggests that " if you don' t want to get cancer - or

you have cancer and you want to get rid of it - then I believe that

the answer is clear: you must reduce your intake of and exposure to

toxins and build up your immune system so that it can work harder to

defend your body. With an immune system working well you will be less

likely to develop cancer. And if you develop cancer then it is my

belief that your body will be better able to turn up the boost on its

body power if you improve the efficiency of your immune system and

reduce your exposure to toxins " (2)

When pursuing an alternative approach to cancer healing, it becomes

obvious that such approaches involve boosting an immune system that

has been depleted through the onset of disease, or perhaps even

before such onset, through the ingestion of toxic chemicals in

insidious doses that either work synergistically or are capable of

latent storage until a " critical mass " is developed within the body.

It would make sense then, to boost the immune system and not only for

overcoming cancer. Any illness can be traced, at least in some part,

to a depleted immune system.

When Doctor Max Gerson, one of the pioneers of natural healing in the

twentieth century, attended medical university in Germany, he

discovered a way to assist his body to cure itself of migraine

headaches. Through a gradual process of trial and elimination, Gerson

developed a " migraine diet " which he later recommended to his

patients. Doctor Gerson was able to heal the previously incurable,

lupus vulgaris skin tuberculosis, asthma, allergies, high blood

pressure and more. He was no longer treating the symptoms of disease

as were his peers in orthodox medicine, but the body as a whole.

Gerson recognised the breakdown of the body's defence system and so,

his treatment became one in which the immune system was bolstered.

Later the Gerson treatments were to include far more than those early

diets of apples and no salt or milk and recognised the ingestion of

toxins through poorly grown foods, lack of minerals because of

substandard and depleted soils and recognised the widely used and

acceptable poisons of today's society such as salt, alcohol and

tobacco. Gerson stressed the importance of detoxification, juicing

and even coffee enemas, but the total healing of the Gerson Therapy,

although essentially metabolic, was achieved after improvement of the

immune system.

The famous Ojibway Indian recipe now known as Essiac, renowned for

it's ability to assist in the healing of cancer does so, in part,

because of increased immune system activity. An immune system,

operating at optimum levels is able to withstand the onslaught and

ravages of virus and disease and is the key to wellness and healing

for all illnesses, not just cancer In modern times a great movement

away from the use of toxic drugs has emerged. A renewed growth in

interest in the use of organic foods, herbs and vitamins used for

healing is increasing world wide and has lead to a resurgence and

modification of such " natural " immune system builders such as MGN-3.

More than a decade before the turn of the century a patent was issued

in Japan for a method of producing an immuno-potentiator comprising

of extracting a plant material from a member of the plant family

Poaceae and culturing any one of Asp Oryzae of the Aspergillaceae and

Lentinus edodes to obtain an enzyme complex. The US patent

application states that " immuno-potentiators have a variety of

applications as foodstuffs and drugs. It is known that aging and

stress lower the animal immunity and as such, we easily suffer from

various diseases. A new branch of nutritional chemistry which tries

to fortify human immunity by improving the daily diet is in a new

stage of development in consideration of the importance of

preventative medicine. In a cancer therapy, the use of an immuno-

potentiator with a chemotherapeutic drug and radiotherapy has

demonstrated an excellent therapeutic effect.

The present inventor found effectiveness of modification of a natural

material using the Hyphomytes in developing and activating natural

killer cells (NK cells) in the human immune system.... The activity

of NK cells of patients was measured to determine the effects of the

above ... (MGN-3). To eliminate the influences of other drugs,

administration of all drugs was inhibited for one month before

measurement. Six grams... were orally administered for each patient

per day. The activity of the NK cells was 34.5LU in the beginning.

The activity rose to 66.5LU in two weeks. Even if the administration

was stopped, the activity was kept at high level (64LU) for two

months. " (3)

MGN-3 immunomodulator function was examined in 27 cancer patients

with differing types of advanced malignancies. 7 patients had breast

cancer, 7 prostate cancer, 8 had multiple myeloma, 3 had leukemia and

2 suffered from cervical cancer. In addition to orthodox therapy,

all patients were given MGN-3 daily. NK cell activity was examined

at two weeks, three months and six months using K562 tumor cells as

targets. The results showed that patients had low level of basal NK

activity (10.8-40%). After just two weeks the percentages of

induction showed in the patients with breast cancer 154-332%,

prostatic cancer 174- 384%, leukemia 100-240%, multiple myeloma 100-

537% and cervical cancer 100-275% (4)

MGN-3 has demonstrated a significant increase in T and B cell mitogen

response in HIV patients and Ghoneum concluded that " MGN-3 posses

potent anti-HIV activity and in the absence of any notable side

effects, MGN-3 shows promise as an agent for treating patients with

AIDs. " MGN-3 " was examined for it's augmentory effect on human

natural killer cell activity in vivo and in vitro. Twenty four

individuals were given MGN-3 orally at three different

concentrations: 15,30,and 45mg/kg/day for two months. Peripheral

blood lymphocyte-natural killer cell activity was tested by 51CR-

release assay against K562 and Raji tumor cells at one week, one

month and two months post treatment and results were compiled with

baseline natural killer cell activity

Treatment with MGN-3 enhanced natural killer cell activity against

K562 tumor cells at all concentrations used. In a dose-dependent

manner, MGN-3 at 15mg/kg/day increased natural killer activity after

one month post treatment (two fold over control value), while

significant induction of natural killer activity at 30 mg/kg/day was

detected as early as one week post treatment (2 1/2 times control

value). Natural killer cell activity continued to increase with

continuation of treatment and peaked (five fold) at two months (end

of treatment period). Increasing the concentration to 45 mg/kg/day

showed similar trends in natural killer activity. However the

magnitude in values was higher than for 30 mg/kg/day. After

discontinuation of treatment, natural killer cell activity declined

and returned to baseline value (14 lytic units) at one month.

Enhanced natural killer cell activity was associated with an increase

in the cytotoxic reactivity against the resistant Raji cell line.

MGN- 3 at 45 mg/kg/day showed a significant increase in natural

killer cell activity after one week (eight fold) and peaked at two

months post treatment (27 times that of baseline). Culture of

peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 for sixteen hours

demonstrated to a 1.3 to 1.5 times increase in natural killer

activity over the control value. The mechanism by which MGN-3

increases natural killer cell activity was examined and showed no

change in cluster of differentiation (CD) 16+ and CD56+CD3+ of MGN-3

activated natural killer cells as compared with baseline value; a

four fold increase in the binding capacity of natural killer (cells)

to tumor cell targets as compared with baseline value; and a

significant increase in the production of interferon-y (340-580

pg/ml).

Postculture of peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 at

concentrations of 25-100 pg/ml. Thus, MGN-3 seems to act as a potent

immunomodulator causing augmentation of natural killer cell activity,

and with the absence of notable side-effects, MGN-3 could be used as

a new biological response modifier having possible therapeutic

effects against cancer. " (5)

Dr. Alan Cantwell Whale www

The Real Cause Of Cancer And The Solution by Dr Vernon

US Patent and Trademark Office patent application 5560914.,Oct.1996

Ghoneum M, Namatalla G, 87th. Annual Meeting of the American Assoc.

Cancer Research April 1996

Ghoneum. M; International Journal of Immunotherapy XIV (I).1998

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I'm not sure what Lane charges, but they have been offering a free sample

if you call 800-510-2010.

Melinda

[beck-n-stuff] MGN3 Immune System Booster

> Hi,

> It would be premature to announce it as one seeming gold nugget of

> much foregoing alt health efforts, but the below article makes a lot

> of sense. It's emphasis on boosting the immune system seems valuable.

> What it says meshes with so much that has gone before that it

> couldn't be casually glossed over. Atleast some exploration seems

> warranted. I've heard/read a couple of anecdotal stories of good

> outcomes.

> MGN3 is not available in New Zealand, see below link for purchasing.

> It's too soon to know exactly what it's all about. Hopefully i'll

> have more experience with it soon. It's just something to ponder for

> now, not sure how much to believe yet, but boosting the immune system

> always makes the best sense.

> One Supplier:

> http://www.vitacost.com/products/brandsaz/lanelabs/mgn3.html

> Take care

> Chris

> Research/Journal Articles :

> http://www.publishedresearch.com/MGN3/MGN3.html

> From: http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm

> The work of one particular doctor, Dr. Mamdooh Ghoneum, is

> undoubtedly going to awaken many in conventional medicine to the

> enormous benefits of using natural immune-enhancing compounds.

> Dr. Ghoneum works with the Department of Immunology at Drew

> University in Los Angeles. For the last six years he has been working

> on an amazing product called MGN-3. Dr. Ghoneum was educated in Egypt

> and Japan, and he continues to spend much of his time in those

> countries. His work with MGN-3 began in Japan, where is quite well

> known. As with most new therapies, his initial research was performed

> in vitro and later using animal models. Although the results were

> extremely positive, he refused to publicize the data until he was

> sure the similar results could be duplicated in humans. In a world

> where new fads based on just the slightest hint of benefit pop up

> almost daily, it's refreshing and unusual to meet someone willing to

> forgo publicity in an effort to perform actual human studies. For

> this, Dr. Ghoneum is to be highly commended.

> Thanks to Dr. Ghoneum, we now have excellent research data to show

> that MGN-3 is likely the most powerful human immune system booster on

> the market today, prescription or otherwise. Even more amazing is the

> fact that it has no known side effects. The implications this

> substance could have on your personal health are astounding.

> (Read the rest at http://www.naturesnutrition.com/SKU/5612.htm )

> From: http://www.datadepo.com/cures for cancer/mgn3.htm

> MGN3

> Cancer, it would seem, is a mystery, and to paraphrase Ernst. T.

> Krebs, since no one really knows how to cure the illness, it is

> possible for everyone to be an expert. There are many theories

> regarding cancer; from parasites to viruses, from carcinogens to

> toxicity in our foods, from the presence of ectopic germs to a lack

> of pancreatic enzyme production. One or all of these could well be

> true, but the one thing all theorists do agree upon, is the

> compromisation of the immune system.

> " In the 1970s, virologists discovered that animal retrovirus

> infection (similar to the AIDS virus) could cause an increase in

> lymphoma and leukemia in the animals, as well as immuno suppression.

> In 1983, a year before the official discovery of HIV, Harvard

> veterinarian Myron Essex found that 25% of gay AIDS patients had

> viral antibodies to blood from a case of " human T-cell leukemia, "

> caused by a new retrovirus called " human T-cell leukemia virus-1. "

> When Gallo announced his discovery of the AIDS virus in 1984,

> he believed the virus was related to this new family of leukemia

> viruses. Thus, he first named the AIDS virus 'Human T-cell leukemia

> virus-3.' Later, the virus was renamed HIV: the human immuno-

> deficiency virus. When the AIDS virus (HIV) was introduced into the

> gay community in the late 1970s, the incidence of Kaposi's sarcoma (a

> previously rare form of cancer), as well as the incidence of Non-

> Hodgkin's disease, began to skyrocket in HIV-infected gay men. Both

> types of cancer had previously been associated with immuno-

> depression. " (1)

> Doctor Alan Cantwell tells us that clusters of cases involving

> Hodgkin's lymphoma have been detected for many years suggesting that

> some kind of " disease agent " could be involved and goes on to say

> that " Some scientists are now suspecting a possible cancer causing

> retrovirus " similar to the AIDs virus.

> Dr Sam Chachoua from Australia, reported in the June/July 1998 issue

> of Nexus magazine that when a group of leukaemia patients were

> treated by wiping out their own bone marrow and giving them bone

> marrow from a donor, the leukaemia returned in a number of the

> patients. DNA checks showed that the new, second bout of leukaemia,

> consisted of cells which had belonged to the donor. The patient's

> original bone marrow had all been removed and this time it was the

> donor's bone marrow which had turned into leukaemia cells. As Doctor

> Vernon tells us " the cause of the cancer is in the patient

> and merely trying to wipe out cancer cells isn't enough. "

> observed in his book Bodypower that the body's self healing

> mechanisms are so effective that in nine out of ten illnesses the

> body will deal with any disorder itself - without any outside

> intervention.

> Successful alternative cancer therapies have two things in common,

> all improve the health and vitality of the body's immune system and

> all help eradicate chemical toxins from the body. " The alternative

> cancer therapies which work offer diets which are rich in vitamin-

> packed organic fruit and vegetables and low in toxic chemicals. They

> also encourage patients to learn how to relax and to find some peace

> in their lives. It doesn't matter whether the peace comes through

> meditation, relaxation, religion or love and comfort applied by

> people who care The real benefit from these alternative approaches to

> cancer comes from the boost the immune system gets from the absence

> of stress and the high natural vitamin content of the fruit and

> vegetable enriched diet. " (2)

> Vernon suggests that " if you don' t want to get cancer - or

> you have cancer and you want to get rid of it - then I believe that

> the answer is clear: you must reduce your intake of and exposure to

> toxins and build up your immune system so that it can work harder to

> defend your body. With an immune system working well you will be less

> likely to develop cancer. And if you develop cancer then it is my

> belief that your body will be better able to turn up the boost on its

> body power if you improve the efficiency of your immune system and

> reduce your exposure to toxins " (2)

> When pursuing an alternative approach to cancer healing, it becomes

> obvious that such approaches involve boosting an immune system that

> has been depleted through the onset of disease, or perhaps even

> before such onset, through the ingestion of toxic chemicals in

> insidious doses that either work synergistically or are capable of

> latent storage until a " critical mass " is developed within the body.

> It would make sense then, to boost the immune system and not only for

> overcoming cancer. Any illness can be traced, at least in some part,

> to a depleted immune system.

> When Doctor Max Gerson, one of the pioneers of natural healing in the

> twentieth century, attended medical university in Germany, he

> discovered a way to assist his body to cure itself of migraine

> headaches. Through a gradual process of trial and elimination, Gerson

> developed a " migraine diet " which he later recommended to his

> patients. Doctor Gerson was able to heal the previously incurable,

> lupus vulgaris skin tuberculosis, asthma, allergies, high blood

> pressure and more. He was no longer treating the symptoms of disease

> as were his peers in orthodox medicine, but the body as a whole.

> Gerson recognised the breakdown of the body's defence system and so,

> his treatment became one in which the immune system was bolstered.

> Later the Gerson treatments were to include far more than those early

> diets of apples and no salt or milk and recognised the ingestion of

> toxins through poorly grown foods, lack of minerals because of

> substandard and depleted soils and recognised the widely used and

> acceptable poisons of today's society such as salt, alcohol and

> tobacco. Gerson stressed the importance of detoxification, juicing

> and even coffee enemas, but the total healing of the Gerson Therapy,

> although essentially metabolic, was achieved after improvement of the

> immune system.

> The famous Ojibway Indian recipe now known as Essiac, renowned for

> it's ability to assist in the healing of cancer does so, in part,

> because of increased immune system activity. An immune system,

> operating at optimum levels is able to withstand the onslaught and

> ravages of virus and disease and is the key to wellness and healing

> for all illnesses, not just cancer In modern times a great movement

> away from the use of toxic drugs has emerged. A renewed growth in

> interest in the use of organic foods, herbs and vitamins used for

> healing is increasing world wide and has lead to a resurgence and

> modification of such " natural " immune system builders such as MGN-3.

> More than a decade before the turn of the century a patent was issued

> in Japan for a method of producing an immuno-potentiator comprising

> of extracting a plant material from a member of the plant family

> Poaceae and culturing any one of Asp Oryzae of the Aspergillaceae and

> Lentinus edodes to obtain an enzyme complex. The US patent

> application states that " immuno-potentiators have a variety of

> applications as foodstuffs and drugs. It is known that aging and

> stress lower the animal immunity and as such, we easily suffer from

> various diseases. A new branch of nutritional chemistry which tries

> to fortify human immunity by improving the daily diet is in a new

> stage of development in consideration of the importance of

> preventative medicine. In a cancer therapy, the use of an immuno-

> potentiator with a chemotherapeutic drug and radiotherapy has

> demonstrated an excellent therapeutic effect.

> The present inventor found effectiveness of modification of a natural

> material using the Hyphomytes in developing and activating natural

> killer cells (NK cells) in the human immune system.... The activity

> of NK cells of patients was measured to determine the effects of the

> above ... (MGN-3). To eliminate the influences of other drugs,

> administration of all drugs was inhibited for one month before

> measurement. Six grams... were orally administered for each patient

> per day. The activity of the NK cells was 34.5LU in the beginning.

> The activity rose to 66.5LU in two weeks. Even if the administration

> was stopped, the activity was kept at high level (64LU) for two

> months. " (3)

> MGN-3 immunomodulator function was examined in 27 cancer patients

> with differing types of advanced malignancies. 7 patients had breast

> cancer, 7 prostate cancer, 8 had multiple myeloma, 3 had leukemia and

> 2 suffered from cervical cancer. In addition to orthodox therapy,

> all patients were given MGN-3 daily. NK cell activity was examined

> at two weeks, three months and six months using K562 tumor cells as

> targets. The results showed that patients had low level of basal NK

> activity (10.8-40%). After just two weeks the percentages of

> induction showed in the patients with breast cancer 154-332%,

> prostatic cancer 174- 384%, leukemia 100-240%, multiple myeloma 100-

> 537% and cervical cancer 100-275% (4)

> MGN-3 has demonstrated a significant increase in T and B cell mitogen

> response in HIV patients and Ghoneum concluded that " MGN-3 posses

> potent anti-HIV activity and in the absence of any notable side

> effects, MGN-3 shows promise as an agent for treating patients with

> AIDs. " MGN-3 " was examined for it's augmentory effect on human

> natural killer cell activity in vivo and in vitro. Twenty four

> individuals were given MGN-3 orally at three different

> concentrations: 15,30,and 45mg/kg/day for two months. Peripheral

> blood lymphocyte-natural killer cell activity was tested by 51CR-

> release assay against K562 and Raji tumor cells at one week, one

> month and two months post treatment and results were compiled with

> baseline natural killer cell activity

> Treatment with MGN-3 enhanced natural killer cell activity against

> K562 tumor cells at all concentrations used. In a dose-dependent

> manner, MGN-3 at 15mg/kg/day increased natural killer activity after

> one month post treatment (two fold over control value), while

> significant induction of natural killer activity at 30 mg/kg/day was

> detected as early as one week post treatment (2 1/2 times control

> value). Natural killer cell activity continued to increase with

> continuation of treatment and peaked (five fold) at two months (end

> of treatment period). Increasing the concentration to 45 mg/kg/day

> showed similar trends in natural killer activity. However the

> magnitude in values was higher than for 30 mg/kg/day. After

> discontinuation of treatment, natural killer cell activity declined

> and returned to baseline value (14 lytic units) at one month.

> Enhanced natural killer cell activity was associated with an increase

> in the cytotoxic reactivity against the resistant Raji cell line.

> MGN- 3 at 45 mg/kg/day showed a significant increase in natural

> killer cell activity after one week (eight fold) and peaked at two

> months post treatment (27 times that of baseline). Culture of

> peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 for sixteen hours

> demonstrated to a 1.3 to 1.5 times increase in natural killer

> activity over the control value. The mechanism by which MGN-3

> increases natural killer cell activity was examined and showed no

> change in cluster of differentiation (CD) 16+ and CD56+CD3+ of MGN-3

> activated natural killer cells as compared with baseline value; a

> four fold increase in the binding capacity of natural killer (cells)

> to tumor cell targets as compared with baseline value; and a

> significant increase in the production of interferon-y (340-580

> pg/ml).

> Postculture of peripheral blood lymphocytes with MGN-3 at

> concentrations of 25-100 pg/ml. Thus, MGN-3 seems to act as a potent

> immunomodulator causing augmentation of natural killer cell activity,

> and with the absence of notable side-effects, MGN-3 could be used as

> a new biological response modifier having possible therapeutic

> effects against cancer. " (5)

> Dr. Alan Cantwell Whale www

> The Real Cause Of Cancer And The Solution by Dr Vernon

> US Patent and Trademark Office patent application 5560914.,Oct.1996

> Ghoneum M, Namatalla G, 87th. Annual Meeting of the American Assoc.

> Cancer Research April 1996

> Ghoneum. M; International Journal of Immunotherapy XIV (I).1998

> ___________________________________________________________

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>

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Art

I use Immpower, it is same thing less expensive than MGN3. Ever heard of it?

Ann

[Guest guest]

THE NEAL DEOUL STORY

Cancer Courtroom Showdown:

Defendant's Cancer Cure Denies land Attorney General His Victory

http://www.cancer-coverup.com/story/default.html

When land Attorney General ph Curran charged Neal Deoul,

alternative

cancer therapy financier, with distributing deceptive promotional

literature

neither side could predict how personal the battle would become -- or

how

the public would be the loser when it was over.

In the heat of a 1998 re-election battle Joe Curran grabbed badly

needed

headlines by accusing Deoul of participating in " the most egregious

case of

fraud I have ever seen. "

T-UP, Inc. the company Deoul financed, was distributing Cesium and

T-UP --

an aloe vera concentrate -- each a natural dietary supplement, to

battle

cancer and AIDs. And though the attorney general had never received a

single

consumer complaint, and T-UP, Inc. had testimonials from hundreds of

consumers who claimed life changing results, Deoul and T-UP became a

convenient target.

But then the unexpected struck in January of 1999. As the case

against Deoul

unfolded in court, Deoul himself was diagnosed with an aggressive

form of

prostate cancer.

It was a shocking and ironic development that would put courtroom

testimony

about alternative cancer therapy to the ultimate test -- and expose

how

badly tilted the scales of justice can be in the so-called " war

against

cancer. "

While prosecutors and defense attorneys battled, Deoul quietly and

confidently turned to Cesium & T-UP concentrated aloe, his own

products, for

treatment of his prostate cancer.

His doctors were shocked. They protested loudly and predicted the

worst if

Deoul continued to refuse surgery, radiation and other standard

therapies.

Instead, Deoul's PSA plummeted. His condition improved taking his own

medicine.

Cesium and T-UP

Cesium and T-UP are at the center of the land courtroom

controversy. The

products were marketed by T-UP, Inc. as dietary supplements under FDA

rules.

Cesium is nature's most alkaline mineral capable of significantly

raising

the pH of malignant cells until the cancer cells die --- usually

within

days. As long ago as 1925, two-time Nobel Prize winner Dr. Otto

Warburg

found that cancer cells are anaerobic; meaning they thrive only in a

low-oxygen state. Cesium changes that environment.

In addition, T-UP capitalizes on the scientifically documented power

of

concentrated aloe to stimulate components of the immune system.

The combination of Cesium and concentrated aloe vera acts as a potent

one-two punch against cancer.

Deoul's Battle

In Deoul's case, the measures of prostate cancer activity in his body

dropped dramatically after completing the Cesium/ T-UP treatment

regimen.

When he was first diagnosed in January of 1999 his PSA level was 8.1

complicated by a Gleason score of 7. The two numbers combined

indicated a

highly aggressive prostate cancer.

But by October of that year, after treatment, (i.e. 3 Cesium pills

per day

for six weeks) his PSA dropped to 3.7. No other therapies were used.

Meanwhile, Deoul continues to lead a completely normal life. He has

not

suffered the scarring of surgery or the debilitation of radiation --

or

devastating side effects like erectile dysfunction or incontinence.

His doctor, a proponent of standard " slash and burn " cancer therapy,

will

not comment publicly about the results. So far, the Attorney General

has

remained silent as well.

The Outcome in Court

Deoul's supporters called it a " Kangaroo Court. "

Unfortunately, Deoul's successful treatment in the real world was not

mirrored in the courtroom. A land Administrative Law Judge found

Deoul

and T-UP, Inc. guilty of violating land's consumer protection

statutes.

But the ruling came only after the judge refused to allow Deoul's

defense

team to put on its full complement of witnesses -- including over 80

people

who would have testified that Cesium and T-UP helped them battle

cancer and

a number of other serious ailments.

Deoul was also denied a trial by his peers. The Attorney General used

land's arcane consumer protection process to direct the case into

the

Administrative Law system, where there are no juries. Worse yet,

there are

no set rules of evidence to insure a fair trial.

Meanwhile, the state's expert witnesses never provided evidence that

Deoul's

claims were false. In fact, not one of the State's expert witnesses

had

first hand experience with Cesium or concentrated aloe vera in human

usage.

Instead, testimony focused on whether or not the marketer was in

strict

compliance with complex and changing FDA rules on the sale of dietary

supplements.

The critical question -- do the products actually fight cancer? --

was not

addressed in the judge's findings.

Deoul Declares Victory & A New Mission

In the end, however, it is Deoul who declares the ultimate victory.

With the State's awesome powers of injunction, the Attorney General

has

never sought to remove the products from the marketplace: If the

products

were not safe and effective -- why are they still sold?

Cesium and T-UP are still available because they are safe and

effective.

Evidence based medical practice is proving Cesium and T-UP to be

potent

treatments for patients seeking alternatives to the deadly trio of

conventional medical treatments -- slash, burn and poison.

Meanwhile, as critics and supporters pick the facts of the case

apart, it's

land Attorney General Joe Curran who now appears to be caught

twisting

the truth to serve his own needs.

With restored health, Deoul vows to spend whatever it takes to

support

additional research into the efficacy of Cesium and T-UP in the

treatment of

cancer.

Deoul believes it is his obligation to blow the whistle; he believes

his

personal experience is convincing evidence that there is a medical

establishment conspiracy to cover up the benefits of many natural

treatments.

Deoul accuses pharmaceutical firms and government agencies that fund

drug

testing of ignoring compelling evidence that Cesium and concentrated

aloe

vera work. He believes they fear the truth because it would cut into

corporate profits fueled by the cancer industry and ruin the careers

of

establishment researchers who've made a handsome living advocating

standard

treatments. No pharmaceutical company will ever fund the costly drug

approval process for a non-proprietary product. It's all about the

bottom-line!

In too many cases, Deoul says it's the approved, conventional

treatments

that leave patients sicker than when they first came for the

life-saving

help they so desperately need.

It's time to put life above profit; it's time to begin using nature's

potent

weapon -- Cesium!

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NEAL'S DOSAGE:

http://www.cancer-coverup.com/story/dosage.html

Many of you are asking for more information about my personal

experience

with Cesium - High pH Therapy.

How much Cesium did I take? What does the literature indicate? When

did I

take it? Where did I get it? What is my prognosis?

First and foremost, based on personal experience, I urge everyone to

seek

the counsel of an experienced healthcare professional. I am a

physicist and

an attorney, not a physician.

The following information is my experience and is not provided for

purposes

of diagnosis, treatment or prescription. Involve your doctor. The

more

experience physicians and oncologists have with Cesium the more

likely they

are to incorporate Cesium into their practice and to recommend the

use of

Cesium to their colleagues in treating cancer.

I purchased Cesium from:

Biotech Pharmacal,

3481 North Highway - 112

Fayetteville, Arkansas, 72704-0743

Phone: (501) 443-9148

I utilized the following protocol after I was diagnosed with prostate

cancer.

I was told, always take Cesium with food!

I took three one gram Cesium capsules daily --- one at breakfast, one

at

dinner, one before bedtime in the evening (with food), for six-weeks.

Additionally, I took four - 1000 milligrams Vitamin C tablets daily,

one

with each gram of Cesium plus the fourth Vitamin C tablet at lunch. I

also

took Zinc (25 - 30 milligrams) at breakfast; plus one " Slo - K "

Potassium

capsule daily as prescribed by a physician.

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LETTER FROM KATHLEEN BLAKE

kathleen888@...

Friday, October 6, 2000

, wow, what a coincidence: just today I was reading my TOWNSEND

LETTER

FOR DOCTORS and here is a portion of an article I had just finished

reading

when I got your email:

" As late as 1970 here in the US, we had a small vegetarian population

either

free from cancer or nearly free from it. It is a fascinating story

told by

A. Brewer. Early in World War II, he was a PhD with our Navy

working

on atomic energy. He was working on Cesium. Cesium did not fit in the

atomic energy program, however he decided that Cesium was an

important

element in our defense against cancer. He also felt that taking

Cesium in

the amount of three to ten grams a day was a viable treatment of

cancer. He

founded the A. Brewer Library in Richland Center, Wisconsin to

foster

Cesium treatment of cancer. He died in 1986.

" In 1984 he had a report in Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behavior

vol.1

supplement1, pp1-5. In it he gives many cases of remissions induced

in late

stage cancer patients on treatment with Cesium. In this report he

tells of

an Indian population in the US who were nearly free from cancer as

late as

1974.

" The Hopi Indians of Arizona then were living their traditional vegan

diet,

mostly of calico corn. In 1974 they were reported to be having only

one

case of cancer per 1,000. The white population in Arizona were having

one

case of cancer in four. Brewer attributed the near freedom from

cancer

amoung these Indians to the high Cesium content in their diet. The

soil in

their reservation is volcanic and high in Cesium. They burn the

leaves of

the chamisa plant and add the ash obtained to their cornmeal. This

ash is

high in Cesium.

" Close by the Hope are the Pueblo Indians. White do-gooders in the

Federal

Department of Indian Affairs decided (at great cost to the taxpayers)

to

improve the diet of the Pueblo Indians. Food stamps were given to

them and

food markets were established where they could live on the high meat

diet of

the white population of the USA. It was not long before the cases of

cancer

among them had increased from one in 1,000 to one in four, the same

as among

their white neighbors.

" The Hopi Indians refused the generous offer of a free, high meat

diet and

maintained their vegan diet mostly of corn. In so doing they were, as

late

as 1974, still having only one case of cancer in 1,000. It could be

as

Brewer has suggested that high Cesium in diet is the reason for their

near

freedom from cancer or it may just be that a meat-free vegan diet is

conductive of a very low incidence of cancer. "

This is part of a letter written about the possible connection

between meat

eating and cancer. I had never heard of Cesium as a possible cancer

cure

until I read this about an hour ago, and then read your email. So

that is

very interesting that in that short time I would read two things

about

cesium! Extremely interesting, actually. Thanks for sharing that

URLwith

me. I think it is probably true; especially after the Townsend

Letter!

The author of the article was:

Wayne

25 Orchard Drive

Fairhope, Alabama 36532

Phone: (334) 928-3975

Fax: (334) 928-0150

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing that information about Brewer. It makes me realize it is really a privilege to live here and have the Brewer Library available. Haven't been there in a while, but I will definitely go back and see what information they have about Cesium, etc.

It is a fascinating storytold byA. Brewer. Early in World War II, he was a PhD with our Navyworkingon atomic energy. He was working on Cesium. Cesium did not fit in theatomic energy program, however he decided that Cesium was animportantelement in our defense against cancer. He also felt that takingCesium inthe amount of three to ten grams a day was a viable treatment ofcancer. Hefounded the A. Brewer Library in Richland Center, Wisconsin tofosterCesium treatment of cancer. He died in 1986."In 1984 he had a report in Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behaviorvol.1supplement1, pp1-5. In it he gives many cases of remissions inducedin latestage cancer patients on treatment with Cesium. In this report hetells ofan Indian population in the US who were nearly free from cancer aslate as1974."The Hopi Indians of Arizona then were living their traditional vegandiet,mostly of calico corn. In 1974 they were reported to be having onlyonecase of cancer per 1,000. The white population in Arizona were havingonecase of cancer in four. Brewer attributed the near freedom fromcanceramoung these Indians to the high Cesium content in their diet. Thesoil intheir reservation is volcanic and high in Cesium. They burn theleaves ofthe chamisa plant and add the ash obtained to their cornmeal. Thisash ishigh in Cesium."Close by the Hope are the Pueblo Indians. White do-gooders in theFederalDepartment of Indian Affairs decided (at great cost to the taxpayers)toimprove the diet of the Pueblo Indians. Food stamps were given tothem andfood markets were established where they could live on the high meatdiet ofthe white population of the USA. It was not long before the cases ofcanceramong them had increased from one in 1,000 to one in four, the sameas amongtheir white neighbors."The Hopi Indians refused the generous offer of a free, high meatdiet andmaintained their vegan diet mostly of corn. In so doing they were, aslateas 1974, still having only one case of cancer in 1,000. It could beasBrewer has suggested that high Cesium in diet is the reason for theirnearfreedom from cancer or it may just be that a meat-free vegan diet isconductive of a very low incidence of cancer."This is part of a letter written about the possible connectionbetween meateating and cancer. I had never heard of Cesium as a possible cures for canceruntil I read this about an hour ago, and then read your email. Sothat isvery interesting that in that short time I would read two thingsaboutcesium! Extremely interesting, actually. Thanks for sharing thatURLwithme. I think it is probably true; especially after the TownsendLetter!The author of the article was:Wayne 25 Orchard DriveFairhope, Alabama 36532Phone: (334) 928-3975Fax: (334) 928-0150

[Guest guest]

No question brain fog gets worse with fatigue. Are you doing enough to rest throughout the day? Don't keep pushing through the fatigue, you need to rest!!

Don

Terradon Unlimited

http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com

"People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000

-----Original Message-----From: debra yarbrough [mailto:Chan_lace_@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:57 AM egroupsSubject: [ ] To AllI have been reading all of the post but not responding. I seem to be morefatigued than usual. Just wanted you all to know that I am thinking of youbut am having problems keeping people sorted out. Is this the "brain fog"experience? I will try to keep up better as you all are important to me.Debrayour gentle friendGod Bless_______________________________________________________Say Bye to Slow Internet!http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html

[Guest guest]

Dear Debbie/FL, Debbie (Tommy's Mom), Debbie OH, Genny, P., kts26, Harper, nne, and ALL!

What a fantastic response you gave me re: hysterectomies. I genuinely thank you all for your time, and stories, and concerns. The reason for the hysterectomy was the cervical pre- cancer that remained even after the LEEP (like a cone bx)...seems it was high and the doc sliced it right in half. In the hopes that there haven't been seeds planted elsewhere and considering the immunosuppression, I will opt to have it all removed. I read a lot of literature about cervical intraepithelial neoplasm and it seems the only place it MAY spread would be the ovaries or lymph system (I pray it will not come to that since GYN did say it was only Stage I). I want to thank you all too for the humor in regards to this kind of surgery (lol). So, 5 a.m. Wed. I will have the laparoscopically assisted (3 punctures below belly button for scope and to put in the CO2), with a vaginal approach for removal (I told him to try not to stretch too much as I pushed 2 kids thru there already, and there may be a faraway chance of replacing my deceased husband someday.)

Good news...even though I got a verbal OK for listing, today I heard my blood work was satisfactory enough to keep me off the list until my recent liver biopsies come back...and then, (hopefully), all the prayers are working to keep this old liver of mine own for a while.

My love, thoughts, and prayers to all the good people in this group.

God bless you and keep you,

[Guest guest]

-- sounds like good things may be ahead! Best wishes!

Harper

[Guest guest]

Good news on the liver tests/list!

We'll be thinking of you at 5 a.m. Wednesday (that might be a little

fib-I'll probably be sleeping.... but you get the idea

Debbie OH

> Dear Debbie/FL, Debbie (Tommy's Mom), Debbie OH, Genny, P.,

kts26, Harper, nne, and ALL!

> What a fantastic response you gave me re: hysterectomies. I

genuinely thank you all for your time, and stories, and concerns.

The reason for the hysterectomy was the cervical pre- cancer that

remained even after the LEEP (like a cone bx)...seems it was high and

the doc sliced it right in half. In the hopes that there haven't

been seeds planted elsewhere and considering the immunosuppression, I

will opt to have it all removed. I read a lot of literature about

cervical intraepithelial neoplasm and it seems the only place it MAY

spread would be the ovaries or lymph system (I pray it will not come

to that since GYN did say it was only Stage I). I want to thank you

all too for the humor in regards to this kind of surgery (lol). So,

5 a.m. Wed. I will have the laparoscopically assisted (3 punctures

below belly button for scope and to put in the CO2), with a vaginal

approach for removal (I told him to try not to stretch too much as I

pushed 2 kids thru there already, and there may be a faraway chance

of replacing my deceased husband someday.)

> Good news...even though I got a verbal OK for listing, today I

heard my blood work was satisfactory enough to keep me off the list

until my recent liver biopsies come back...and then, (hopefully), all

the prayers are working to keep this old liver of mine own for a

while.

> My love, thoughts, and prayers to all the good people in this

group.

> God bless you and keep you,

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations on your good liver report!!!

It would be great if one of your kids could let us know how your

operation goes on Wed. This is one of the things that make these

kinds of message boards hard. There is know way we can know what is

going on if someone all of a sudden disappears. I would like it if

we all would find someone that can come here and give everyone any

news. With our diseases things can happen very quickly and without

warning.

You're having the operation at 5 AM...? I can't promise my peepers

will be open but I'll make sure the prayers are said before I go to

sleep! Don't give the nurses too hard a time. Remember what it's

like :?)

Take care,

Debbie/FL

> Dear Debbie/FL, Debbie (Tommy's Mom), Debbie OH, Genny, P.,

kts26, Harper, nne, and ALL!

> What a fantastic response you gave me re: hysterectomies. I

genuinely thank you all for your time, and stories, and concerns.

The reason for the hysterectomy was the cervical pre- cancer that

remained even after the LEEP (like a cone bx)...seems it was high and

the doc sliced it right in half. In the hopes that there haven't

been seeds planted elsewhere and considering the immunosuppression, I

will opt to have it all removed. I read a lot of literature about

cervical intraepithelial neoplasm and it seems the only place it MAY

spread would be the ovaries or lymph system (I pray it will not come

to that since GYN did say it was only Stage I). I want to thank you

all too for the humor in regards to this kind of surgery (lol). So,

5 a.m. Wed. I will have the laparoscopically assisted (3 punctures

below belly button for scope and to put in the CO2), with a vaginal

approach for removal (I told him to try not to stretch too much as I

pushed 2 kids thru there already, and there may be a faraway chance

of replacing my deceased husband someday.)

> Good news...even though I got a verbal OK for listing, today I

heard my blood work was satisfactory enough to keep me off the list

until my recent liver biopsies come back...and then, (hopefully), all

the prayers are working to keep this old liver of mine own for a

while.

> My love, thoughts, and prayers to all the good people in this

group.

> God bless you and keep you,

>

[Guest guest]

.... sounds pretty good so far... but don`t let them carry you

along if your QOL

is suffering just to hang on to your old liver... I hope they list you

anyway so you`ll be on it if things start to go south...

re: Weds. AM I might be awake at 5 so you will definitely be in my

thoughts... may everything go well.. btw. it`s very nice of you to to

keep any future lovers in mind ... you get my vote for thoughful woman

of the year...

My prayers as always...

Jerry

[Guest guest]

To all my friends ,

I just want to wish you all a very happy and healthy Thanksgiving.

Remember to thank God that we have each other, I am so thankful for DrR and

all of you. Keep each other close to dear to you, remember that you never

know how much time you will have together, so cherish the time you spend

together, forget all the petty little things and do not blow little things

into somthing big, forgive and forget, never stay angry and be there for each

other. I have had 41 beautiful years with Vinnie, and I have so many good

memories, I loved him very much and I know that he loved me and the children

and grandchildren very much. He was a very, very special person and will

always be that to me. I have to thank him for taking me to DrR and that he

supported me so much through all of this, he was so happy and proud that

finally after all of these years of me suffering with weight and all problems

brought on by the weight, I finally was making progress and he saw my true

personality coming through, and saw that I can be a normal size person, and

have and make new friends and do so many things that never could do before.

He loved meeting everyone and seeing how caring everying is, was very happy

that you all email me all the time, and that the computer has brought me

into a new domain. I am so glad that he bought me all the computer things,

this takes me hours to write and read and this will pass a lot of my time

now. Thank You All for being there for me. And first and formost Doctor

Rutledge, you know how much I love you, and we have spoken so many times

about how I feel about you and all you do for so many. You are an angel from

God, sent here to heal and help so many. You have given so many back a life.

Thank You, thank You, thank you.

The Best To Everyone,

Rosemary Commisso(DrR

Jan26,01 297-204)