Water Damage Bugs/Re: How would you test this mcs safe home for mold?

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Dr Thrasher,

The info is so limited, unavailable, except on your site which is not completed

yet.. I dont know where else to go for info. We are focusing most completely on

mold and mycotoxins here and on other boards... thats for sure.

How do we get our homes tested? Even if we find infection in respiratory tract,

gut, then if we are being constantly re exposed.. thats a problem.

As people are saying with mold spores, can the bacteria also inhabit clothing,

objects, etc? How do you get rid of it? Can you clean objects, wash it out of

fabric?

What about the walls, ceiling, kitchen cabinets you mention in another post..

where does one get the test to test for the bacteria and then how does this

stuff grow on walls and building material? IS it growing entirely on moisture

and cellulose? When moisture stops, does it die? What keeps it alive? Is it the

same as the mold.. you have to completely take out the building material and of

course take care of moisture issue?

Thank you,

Robin

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

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> Robin: Your question cannot be answered at this time. There are multiple

research papers identifying the Gram negative and positive bacteria in WDB.

However, no one is paying any attention to the bacteria and their role in human

illness. Bacteria in the family, Actinobacter, mainly Streptomyces spp and

Mycobacterium spp are known to cause human illness: hypersensitivity

pneumonitis, mycobacterium avium complex, and cause infections of the lung and

upper respiratory tract. The bacteria and their spores (endospores) can become

air borne and you can inhale them. Also, for your consideration, chronic

sinusitis is caused by either or both fungi and bacteria. Also, certain

bacteria can cause serious lung disease, e.g. hypersensitivity pneumonitis as

well as infections. I have seen situations where CAT and MRI scans have

demonstrated multiple minute (2-3 mm) nodules (granulomas) in the lungs.

Mycobacterium spp and Streptomyces spp (among other Actinobacter) can cause

these mycetomas.

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> I currently have two cases: one has been diagnosed with mycobacterium avium

complex caused by Mycobacterium intracelluare with a superimposed fungal

exposure (A very smart pulmonary doctor in my opinion). The other has

aspergillosis (Aspergillus fumigatus) and mycobacterium determined by lung

lavage (Another wide pulmonary doctor). How many other cases are out there I do

not know. Treating physicians fail to do the correct diagnostics. Also, the

injured fail to have their homes and apartments tested for critical bacteria and

relay this information to their treating doctors).

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> The problem that I see on this forum and other forums is a an emphasis on

molds and mycotoxins and a lack of interest in the problems presented by

bacteria. The same goes for the scientific and medical communities.

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> I have discussed the bacteria on my web site along with various fungi. The

discussions were obtained from the literature and the references are included in

the discussions. As I said before, become educated so that you understand what

biocontaminants are present in WDB.

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