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I just wanted to let you know about our experience with our daughter who is a

non PID kid. was born with a duplicate renal system. She spent the

first couple of years with intermittent high fevers with vomiting. She grew

slowly but did eat well overall. At about 6 she became very ill with monthly

fevers lasting 1-2 weeks and intermittent increase in her SED rates up to 60-80.

They were not sure what was going on except that she was having chronic tummy

aches where she would lay on the floor and crie hysterically and then it would

go away and she also was always barfy. She did show up with severe sinus

disease and pansinusitis in which we found mold in our house. That summer she

came down with a severe pylonephritis and we had to do IV antx again to get her

well. She continued to have stomach aches, vomiting, mouth sores and

intermittent infections even on the antx and ditripan to stop the renal spasm.

She also had trouble with her urine incontinence. WE did have surgery to remove

one of the ureters and reimplant it on top of the bladder. IT made a tremendous

difference and her fevers went away. Sooooo, it is possible it is his renal

problems. still has frequent mouth ulcers, nausea and ??? reflux. but

she is now 11 and we still walk through it with her on Prilosec. She also has

problems with constipation and as long as we keep her going she does better

instead of letting her get backed up. One thing I did not understand was the

abdominal pain because when I had severe pain with Kidney stones and

hydronephrosis with renal colic my pain was down low and in the back. s

has always been in her tummy in the periumbilical area. I understand that this

is usual for children. Hope this helps. Kidney pain is excruciating and we

believe had it for many years before we found her kidney congenital

defects. BARBIE

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  • 7 years later...

HI

 

My only thoughts are about using homeopathic remedies... They are fab... Helios homeopathic pharmacy have a help line - qualified homeopaths and they can give first aid remedies.. should be with you next day - they also have a list of homeopaths I believe... the remedies have always been far more successful for our family than using suppressive antibiotics..

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

Tracey

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM, ru345mins <ru345mins@...> wrote:

 

Hi guys,Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept). Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly needed. Thankyou.

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Do you think he may have oxalate problems that may be at the root of this?

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> Hi guys,

>

> Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His Paed

said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

>

> In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

>

> He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

>

> Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

>

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> >

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

> > Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> >

> > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

> > blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

> > painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V

> > bug until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> >

> > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

> > antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> >

> > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

> > needed. Thankyou.

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

> > Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> >

> > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

> > blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

> > painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V

> > bug until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> >

> > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

> > antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> >

> > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

> > needed. Thankyou.

> >

> >

> >

>

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Thanks guys for feedback. I will try low oxalate diet for few months

first.... Owens just read her paper cf/gf diet he is on very high in

oxalates.

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> >

> > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> >

> > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> >

> > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

> >

>

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Thanks guys for feedback. I will try low oxalate diet for few months

first.... Owens just read her paper cf/gf diet he is on very high in

oxalates.

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> >

> > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> >

> > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> >

> > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

> >

>

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If e.coli (which should have been tested) is the problem as it is for most uti's

then D-mannose might help, possibly cranberry juice and if possible plenty of

water, which hopeflly would ease the pain in passing water.

Kidney infections, if this is what it is, which leaving an untreated uti can

lead to, can be very painful and I think that it is disgraceful that your son

was left for 3 weeks, a urine test only takes a few seconds for a Dr. or a nurse

to take to see if there is some sort of infection once you have done the hard

part of collecting it. Why is a 4 year olds pain less important than a doc

getting off his/her back-side? and they are getting paid a good salary too. I

would also chase up the kidney scan too.

Kenny

>

> Hi guys,

>

> Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His Paed

said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

>

> In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

>

> He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

>

> Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

>

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Thanks Kenny for advice. Took my boy back to gp and he still has blood in urine

and 4th day on antibiotics. I have left message for Paed to cotact me so I can

hopefully get scan earlier.

I've got Vit K their and will look at that too.

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> >

> > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> >

> > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> >

> > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

> >

>

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I wish your little fella all the best and please keep us posted on how he gets

on.

I hope the scan helps, it may involve an Iodine based contrast dye which some

people can be allergic to, the staff involved in this procedure will almost

certainly be aware of this. Sometimes when there is blood in the urine it can be

caused by a urethral stricture, which may occur due to straining to wee when

there is an inflammation, it is not serious especially in young children who

have much better healing abilities, I believe sometimes an ultra sound scan can

pick this up if the kidney scan is inconclusive. Again plenty of hydration and

water should help and trying D-Mannose might help it's not expensive and worst

ways it just won't do anything but will not cause further problems also

alkalinizing the body might help prevent further infections and not bathing in

harsh soaps.

All the best Kenny

> > >

> > > Hi guys,

> > >

> > > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems. His

Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> > >

> > > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection with

blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> > >

> > > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> > >

> > > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice greatly

needed. Thankyou.

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Kenny

Thank you for that information on D-Mannose as I did not know and will try this

whilst waiting for scan. He is on day 5 of antibiotics today and still having

problems weeing (hard to wee/painful). But no further appointments with Dr to

assess him. I might contact the practice manager to see if he can 'hurry' the

scan, considering it was a month ago he was referred at my request which no sign

of it on his medical file.

I wish he did drink straight water but only drinks Rock squash or 7-up. The last

DAN gave me VitK so will also look at the link on that too. I will keep you all

posted. Thank you all again for advice and support. I will take him to A & E if he

has not had scan by next week.

> > > >

> > > > Hi guys,

> > > >

> > > > Results from DAN a year ago said my 4 yr old son had kidney problems.

His Paed said these results were normal (creat in 1000s!).

> > > >

> > > > In the last 2 months he has now had his second water works infection

with blood/protein etc. He cries as it takes ages to pass urine and extremely

painful. He was left for 3 weeks the first time and I was told he had D & V bug

until after 3 weeks they did urine test!

> > > >

> > > > He is now a month later with repeated symptoms and back on a different

antibiotic. Still waiting for Kidney scan (referral done begining of Sept).

> > > >

> > > > Anyone else's child have kidney problems and what happened? Advice

greatly needed. Thankyou.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Robin: I have been working with Drs. Gray and Hooper on this issue.

Penicillium species in WDB produce ochratoxn. It is a urinary tract and kidney

toxin. We have 8 cases of kidney (renal cell) cancer and another case of stage

IV kidney failture. We haeve detected ochratoxin A in biopsy spedimens from all

9 cases. In addtion, we have identified Aspergillus DNA in the bioopsiies. I

suggeste that you have early morning urine specimens testes for trichothecenes,

alatoxins and ochratoxin. All three are kidney toxins.

Jack Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist, Immunotoxicologist, Fetal toxicologist

Cell - 575-937-1150 Cell-Thrasher

Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

Cell -775-309-3994

www.drthrasher.org

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From: listspub@...

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:36:54 +0000

Subject: [] Kidney Problems

Is this commonly seen with mold illness? My fathers bun, creatinine nd GFR are

all off.. wondering if this is commonly seen with mold illness... there is some

resistance to the idea that the house is making my parents sick. 18,000 spores

per cu meter A/P before a non-contained remediation.. they just took the

building material out and hepa vacced and wiped widn with microban.. I know

about the microban.. they dont yet get it though.

Thanks..

Robin

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My bun level was off as was my glucose

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 7:36:54 PM

Subject: [] Kidney Problems

 

Is this commonly seen with mold illness? My fathers bun, creatinine nd GFR are

all off.. wondering if this is commonly seen with mold illness... there is some

resistance to the idea that the house is making my parents sick. 18,000 spores

per cu meter A/P before a non-contained remediation.. they just took the

building material out and hepa vacced and wiped widn with microban.. I know

about the microban.. they dont yet get it though.

Thanks..

Robin

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