Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 In a message dated 7/21/2006 7:34:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, ib_domesticdiva@... writes: Yesterday I didn't move, I cleaned instead....but I AM gonna organize my kitchen so I may not. That will probably be a workout in its own right LOL. You are absolutely right, !! I was gonna say house cleaning, yard cleaning, etc count!! All that bending and lifting and stuff... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 In a message dated 7/21/2006 9:38:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, ib_domesticdiva@... writes: For breakfast I'm having a sausage patty and 2 boiled eggs, I know it not a great breakfast but I think I am gonna need all the protein I get. For lunch I'll have a small roast beef sandwich with tomatoes and no chips. For dinner I'm having grilled a pork chop very lean , 2 cups stir-fried broccoli and rice. Iknow you are all thinking this is not a great way to lose weight but it IS a LOT less than what I have been eating. Yum and very good!! I haven't had breakfast yet either and was thinking along the same lines (sausage and something LOL).... then a walk to Curves and back... Have a great day, dh will be pleased to get to sleep in the bedroom!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Today I've already cleaned out another big part of the bedroom and it is only 9:30. Tonight we can sleep in there yipeee!!!!!! Until today we've been camping out in the living room. NOW on to the kitchen, I am already pumped up so I may get it all done, and my workout too! For breakfast I'm having a sausage patty and 2 boiled eggs, I know it not a great breakfast but I think I am gonna need all the protein I get. For lunch I'll have a small roast beef sandwich with tomatoes and no chips. For dinner I'm having grilled a pork chop very lean , 2 cups stir-fried broccoli and rice. Iknow you are all thinking this is not a great way to lose weight but it IS a LOT less than what I have been eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 That's awesome that your daughter likes to workout with you! Moving a few months ago - I lost a few pounds - packing & unpacking! I just got 2 more boxes unpacked today - woohoo! only about 8 more to go LOL ODell <ib_domesticdiva@...> wrote: My daughter loves "working out", I really should get her into it. She hates that I am so big, I have almost no lap for her to sit in. I've been moving for the last few days even if it is just turning on some music and dancing with the kids. Maybe today I'll dig out ! Yesterday I didn't move, I cleaned instead. We just moved and we can't even sleep in our bedroom for the boxes. SO I went in there and cleaned and organized one side of the room AND cleaned up the disaster area that they call a bedroom. I am so proud of myself. My husband came home and saw how much I did and he gave me big hug. Today I'll try to move but I AM gonna organize my kitchen so I may not. That will probably be a workout in its own right LOL. . Live, Love, Laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 > > Hi > To all my friends here in the group. Just wanted to let you know I will bi moving this week good luck with your move are you going to be in Wisconsin still ? remember do not over do it,, Janet IN IL> > > > --------------------------------- > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Yes, I will still be in WI, I am moving to a HUD building about four miles away, from where I am now, . My sister and brother-in-law are helping as much as they can, but I am still finding it exhausting. Today I had to sit for phone guy, and hunt up building manager for him. Then go back later for furniture delivery, in between pack!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just want to get it over with. in WI jan <smokey61080@...> wrote: > > Hi > To all my friends here in the group. Just wanted to let you know I will bi moving this week good luck with your move are you going to be in Wisconsin still ? remember do not over do it,, Janet IN IL> > > > --------------------------------- > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Carolina, "Oh yeah, I'm sure I will be getting lots of exercise just packing. I'm trying to get all this done a head of time. I have till the end of February so that should give me plenty of time." I just moved and am still going through my stuff, so I am proud of you to be able to get this done early. I will be moving to Montreal, or right outside of it in June, so as I weed through my possessions... it will keep me busy too. Good luck with your move! Shirley Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Good luck with your move Terri! . . Please let us know when you're settled. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Oh yeah, and I can't use the PT mats either for the same reason, so now all my PT has so be in my room, sigh. > > Hi everyone! > It seems that I have developed shingles on my abdomen, so there is a > possibility they will be moving me to a different room (or maybe moving > my roomate instead, but I sure hope not because she is an older lady > and slightly confused - so a room change would be rough on her!) So > anyways, the phone number I gave out earlier will likely no longer be > my phone number soon. But thanks so much for the call earlier Peggy! > I loved hearing from you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hi Other parents on here may be able to give you more specifics, but as far as I know, the Auburn School District has an Autism/AS program. I also know that Tahoma School District (in Maple Valley) does as well, though as of right now, the Tahoma one only goes up to (I believe) 4th Grade. On 9/22/07, Hagedorn <meanjeangreenbean@...> wrote: I am the mother of a 7 yr old boy who was diagonised 3 years ago, I have been very proactive in getting him the proper education in a mainstream setting,but have had to fight tooth and nail along the way, now I am planning a move cross country to Washington state near the Seattle,Auburn area and need to start from scratch again, I would like any kind of assisstance, like where to go for help before I get him enrolled in school, also if there are treament/day programs in the area. Afterschool activities and even special day care centers in the area. Thanks for your help Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Anybody out there have any contacts for Long Island schools? (This is the mom some of you gave school info to a couple months back.) Kathy's daughter, , is five. Appreciate it. Use my name as a contact and go ahead and send info - I will not be home from Dec 27 till Jan 2. Mindy Lee Subject: RE: Moving Yes, thanks for everything. We bought a house on Long Island, leaving on the third. Disturbing phone call, though from one of the schools superintendents – She has already stated that would not do well at her school, she has not even met her. She also asked personal questions, like, “Has anyone come to your house to teach potty training” – that is also a big concern of hers. I would like to get in touch with an advocate up there, a third party to help out from the beginning, as it seems we have already encountered difficulty and negative conversation. Do you know if Family Helping Family group here would be able to refer me to a group/advocate in New York? Thanks so much again for all your help – Tomorrow is my last day here – I can be reached for the next month at: vlaruss@... Thanks and Happy Holidays! Kathy (504) 577-9677 cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Dear Deny, You need to contact Texas State Board of Pharmacy to find out what else you need. I would bring letters of recommendation and affidavits that you have been employed, dates, locations and your abilities and duties. You will need these for the state and also for new employers. Texas requires PTCB certification and registration including fingerprinting. But for translocation in addition to this I do not know what else, which is why you need to call TSBP. Anyone form Texas out there be able to help this person with this question? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS F/O > > Hi, > > I'm a CPhT in Oregon. What do I need to do to keep my license valid if > I change states? I'm moving to Texas sometime this year, hopefully. I > know I have to let the Oregon Board know I'm changing addresses. But > what else? Do I have to take the PTCB test again? > > Thanks, > > Deny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Hello Deny, You do not have to take the PTCB exam again. You will have to notify the Texas BOP of your new employer in Texas and register with that board. Bobbie Craddock, AAPT Treasurer, is from Texas and can elaborate more on the details. Have a safe move, n Keener Visit www.shopkeener.com and take care of your health & wellness! 1-800-211-1202 ext: 27006 " Nothing is worth achieving without enthusiasm " Moving Hi, I'm a CPhT in Oregon. What do I need to do to keep my license valid if I change states? I'm moving to Texas sometime this year, hopefully. I know I have to let the Oregon Board know I'm changing addresses. But what else? Do I have to take the PTCB test again? Thanks, Deny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Dear Deny, Go to www.tsbp.state.tx.us to apply read carefully. 1)Click on Pharmacy Technician 2)Click on Application for Pharmacy Technician Registration 3)Follow instructions by all means try to pay with debit or credit card. Do this as soon as possible, have all information before you start. Texas is strict I just left there in January. Notify every board of pharmacy past and present of your new address. I was almost fined for not listing both jobs I worked at in Texas. Once you get your green and white license and wallet size. start looking and don't give up. Unless you know someone it is really difficult to get a job in a hospital without I.V. certification thats willing to teach you. I'm not sure what area you are going but Houston is full of techs believe it or not and not enough jobs to go around. if they offer prn first take it, better to be in some than none. Hope this helps. Hi everyone still enjoy your posts even though I can't get here enough every time I see someone going to Texas I cringe at the thought of being unprepared. Do your research before you move and have a back-up plan that includes extra cash. Suzette LeBlanc CPhT- Lafayette, Louisiana > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a CPhT in Oregon. What do I need to do to keep my license valid if > > I change states? I'm moving to Texas sometime this year, hopefully. I > > know I have to let the Oregon Board know I'm changing addresses. But > > what else? Do I have to take the PTCB test again? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Deny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Make sure you check with the State Board of Pharmacy. In Louisiana not only do you have to be certified, but they DO NOT accept out of state experience and you are required to obtain 600 hours of practical experience from one of their (LA's) pharmacy facilities. So beware... > > Hello Deny, > You do not have to take the PTCB exam again. You will have to notify the Texas BOP of your new employer in Texas and register with that board. > Bobbie Craddock, AAPT Treasurer, is from Texas and can elaborate more on the details. > Have a safe move, > > > Moving > > > Hi, > > I'm a CPhT in Oregon. What do I need to do to keep my license valid if > I change states? I'm moving to Texas sometime this year, hopefully. I > know I have to let the Oregon Board know I'm changing addresses. But > what else? Do I have to take the PTCB test again? > > Thanks, > > Deny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Suzette, Are you originally from LA or TX? What setting are you working in? How long have you been a tech? How is the job market for techs in Lafayette? Have you completed the 600 training hours required by the LABP? (being that Suzette is PTCB certified, she would not be required to be in a " board approved program " , but is still required to work as a " Technician Candidate " for 600 hours - more on this below. Previous employment/education in another state means nothing to the LABP - only already possessing a PTCB certification matters) An applicant to LA does have to " declare " licenses/registrations from other states - but hours don't recipricate. The applicant must submit documentation of the current status of registration in another state. They must also submit a letter as too whether or not they have had any disciplinary action taken against them. Jeanetta - the remainder is primarily to you for your information regarding LA registration. Anyone else interested in being a Technician in LA may also find it useful. The rest of you may look at the length and say - ah, I don't need to read all this.... so I'll put my salutation here. Respectfully, Anne P LaVance, BS,CPhT Texpert Pharmacy Technician Program Director Delgado Community College New Orleans, LA An FYI regarding LA and pharmacy technicians. The LABP requires techs to EITHER be attending a " state approved program " OR already be nationally certifified by the PTCB to apply for a Training Permit. Under the training permit, the Technician Candidate (as they are referred to by the LABP) has to complete 600 training hours. The Candidate Permit is only valid for 18 months. They can not renew it if they do not complete the requirements in the time limit, and as far as I am aware - NO EXTENSIONS. The hours expire 1 year after the expiration of the Permit. If they are a student - 200 of the hours must be overseen by the program they are in (my students do 400 hours - 200 hours / 5 wks in a retail setting and 200 hours / 5 wks in an institutional setting). Technician Candidates have 18 months to complete their 600 hours. A student must also pass the PTCE given by the PTCB (the only test LABP currently recognizes), complete their program and have a notarized affidavit of the 600 hours. Tthey submit a copy of the wall certificate from the PTCB, their notarized hours, and their graduation certificate with an application to become a Pharmacy Technician. The cost of the Candidate application is $25. When the LABP reviews the application, they return a background check to the applicant - it is sent to both the FBI and State police (approx. $45 - there is also a charge to have the fingerprinting done, but that veries by the police entity from the parrish the applicant is from, usually $10-15). It can take up to 3 months if there is a problem with the system reading the fingerprints for the background check or the candiate graduated from a school in another country. My student's had all submitted their applications late Sept, then they all got there background checks returned to the state by the end of Oct (they all had them sent back because the price had changed, and the State Police wouldn't take the original checks - make sure if you pay with a money order, you get them from your bank so that IF you need to, you can change the amount). One of my students is from Viet Nam - she received her permit Jan 8. Another student had to redo her fingerprint card (they couldn't read the prints the first time), then the second time was " bad " too, so they had to do a " manual " SS# search - her permit came in Jan 17. PTCB - LABP requires that if the Candidate did not pass the exam by the second attempt, they must contact the board that they intend to reattempt, but they must wait (I believe) 6 months (to study). After 3 attempts, the board will not accept a PTCB certificate. The cost of the application to get a Pharmacy Techncian Certificate is $100. Renewal is required annually (June 30). LABP requires 10 hours of ACPE accredited CE's every year (the cost of renewal is $50). They do not require a CPhT to renew their PTCB certification once they have taken the test - I always strongly suggest to my students that they keep it current, in case they need to move (Katrina) and it is required in another state. Also, they only have to pay the extra $35 every two years, they can use the same CEs they submit to the state. If a student does not complete my program. I am required to contact the LABP, they will request the student surrender their permit. They can get their permit back if they enter another " board approved program " by contacting the board and requesting reinstatement (but the clock never stopped ticking). Some interesting statistics from the LABP annual meetings: July 2005 - June 2006 the national pass rate for the PTCB was 78%, LA pass rate was 76% - my graduates: 100%; July 2006 - June 2007 (the exam went to the computerized version) National pass rate was 65%; LA pass rate was 55% - my graduates (yup - you guessed it!) 100%. Payscales in the NO area are getting more competitive - I get contacted every week from pharmacies looking for techs (all of my students get job offers on their clinicals - usually from both sites), so I never have anyone to refer. Last week I had someone wanting a FT 9-6, M-F w/ benefits, starting at $13.50/hr (and they asked if that was enough/competitive) - I told them, I believe higher would be better, but they were competitive (on the high end at that). **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Suzette, So you moved from January to Louisianna in January . Please compare your experience trying to find work in LA. Are you working now? How difficult was it to get your registration in LA? did you have to submitt letters of rec or employment verification to the LA SBP? Thanks for answering Deny's question. It comes up a lot. Since NPTA is based in Houston, do you think that there is a glut of techs in Houston because of that? Are there more hospitals in Houston than other cities? Or are you simply stating your experience? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner of this site Suzette LeBlanc <suzetteleblanc@...> wrote: Dear Deny, Go to www.tsbp.state.tx.us to apply read carefully. 1)Click on Pharmacy Technician 2)Click on Application for Pharmacy Technician Registration 3)Follow instructions by all means try to pay with debit or credit card. Do this as soon as possible, have all information before you start. Texas is strict I just left there in January. Notify every board of pharmacy past and present of your new address. I was almost fined for not listing both jobs I worked at in Texas. Once you get your green and white license and wallet size. start looking and don't give up. Unless you know someone it is really difficult to get a job in a hospital without I.V. certification thats willing to teach you. I'm not sure what area you are going but Houston is full of techs believe it or not and not enough jobs to go around. if they offer prn first take it, better to be in some than none. Hope this helps. Hi everyone still enjoy your posts even though I can't get here enough every time I see someone going to Texas I cringe at the thought of being unprepared. Do your research before you move and have a back-up plan that includes extra cash. Suzette LeBlanc CPhT- Lafayette, Louisiana > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a CPhT in Oregon. What do I need to do to keep my license valid if > > I change states? I'm moving to Texas sometime this year, hopefully. I > > know I have to let the Oregon Board know I'm changing addresses. But > > what else? Do I have to take the PTCB test again? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Deny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 J, Of course you can post the info. The Louisiana State Board of Pharmacy is at _www.labp.com_ (http://www.labp.com) or 5615 Corporate Blvd, Ste 8-E, Baton Rouge, LA 70808. The 100% pass rate is for graduates. I have had students who did not complete program, but attempt the test, not pass. My overall pass rate of graduates / non-graduates is 97% on first attempt, 100% on second attempt. I've only had 1 student not complete, and not pass, that did not attempt a second time. " Your added information raises a lot of issues with me! " Questions and Responses: !. What if a person took the PTCB exam more than three times in another state then moved to LA? It seems unfair to the LA resident that they can only take it 3 times (even if I agree with that). ANS: If they have passed the exam by the time they apply in LA, I don't know that there would be an issue (my best guess). I think the 3 time rule is for the " in program " candidates - part of the reason the LABP inacted the " state approved program " requirement was because of the low pass rate. This was to make employers who " train " techs to be required to prepare them better for the exam. 2. Does LA accept a person's tech education form another state IF they have not taken the PTCB yet? or only LA voc schooling? Do they accept the hours from the out of state externship? ANS: LABP only will recognize a program on their list (to be on the list, a program must submit an application and an outline of the curriculum/training modules following guidelines that can be found on the LABP site. Many pharmacies are " board approved " , it is not just formal education that is required. They will not accept hours from any other state - no matter what. When I moved here, I had 240 hours from my extern and 10,000 in the field - I still had to do 500 " LA " hours (that was the requirement prior to Jan 05). I would think that WHEN we have a national education standard, reciprication may be utilized, but since there is no consistance in requirements for training state-to-state, the PTCB is the only marker for someone coming in from another state. If a tech was to come to LA and NOT be PTCB certified, they would either have to take the test before applying to be able to work as a Candidate, OR they would have to go through a " program " . 3. Does LA accept ALL of the 400 hours of your student clinicals or externship hours? Would they accept all 600 if you required it or do some hours have to be as a candidate on the paying job ? ANS: I am only REQUIRED to oversee a minimum of 200 of the 600 hours - because my students do 400, they only have the remaining 200 to complete to satisfy the state. Since most of them accept offers from their preceptor, the 200 are finished quickly. I have had student's that did not plan to work in the field right away (they were starting pre-reqs for Pre-pharm) and didn't want to start a job, then quit in two months, so they arranged " volunteer " time with one of their preceptors to complete their 200 remaining hours. I am working on an " elective " in a specialty area that would allow the students to complete all 600 hours under my program. My program is ASHP accredited, not a requirement in LA - but is in some states. My students MUST graduate to satisfy the LABP requirements (or they have a number of hoops to jump through to work around it). ASHP requires that I provide the students with a certificate of completion recognizing that it is an ASHP accredited program. This certificate would be if they went to a state requiring/recognizing attendance at an ASHP accredited program. My program is currently only offered as a CTS (certificate of technical studies). BUT - I am developing curriculum and a proposal to offer an option of an AA. I would like to have two avenues for the students - a General Studies (Pre-pharm) curriculum, and a business concentration (Supervisory, Pharm Sales...). Our tuition is about $1100/semester (so with books - about $2500 for the program - not counting the pre-reqs). My students must complete 7 hours of pre-reqs (A & P w/ lab, and Med Term). They must be at College Algebra Level and ENG 101 level (so if they have to do remedial or don't test high enough on the math, they would have to take additional courses to get to level). My program is basically 2 semesters once they enter if they start in the fall, if they start Summer or Spring, it is 3 semsesters, but 2 are part-time semesters. (less hours in the summer because of the shorter semester). We don't require PTCB to graduate, but I am thinking about a comprehensive exit exam...... Another thing I am developing is an ACPE accredited Sterile Products (beyond the " basic " course I already teach) and a separate Chemo/TPN course (for techs in the field who don't have hospital training, but would like it, and to recert the techs and RPh's in the field for CE) and as an elective for more specialized training for my in-program students. I'm also looking at electives for compounding and specialized vett. compounding (we have a vett tech program at our school), and a " pharmacy supervision " course - buying, scheduling, man power plans, OTC marketing/displays, organizing health screens for pharmacy - that kind of thing, purhaps even a course with technology focus - for automation. My advisory board wants student's with " specialization " , niche techs if you will. Respectfully, Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT Pharmacy Techinician Educator Texpert **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 J, I also teach TPN, Chemo, reconstitiution, and sterile product preparation as part of my Sterile Products class. But the " general " sterile products course I am developing (or just spit-polishing my current course) would be ACPE accredited. I am also developing an more indepth - specialized Chemo/TPN elective (we spend about 2 weeks in class and have 3 labs on these topics), with a 2 week intern at a specialized facility. Techs in LA were not allowed to make chemos until 2005 (in fact many pharmacists still aren't even aware that techs can now " legally " make chemo in LA) - so there are very few " chemo " trained techs. A local hospital is partnering with MD and will be opening a chemo center next year and will need 4 TRAINED chemo techs - right now there is practically a non-existant selection pool. We are still SOOOOO short staffed in operations for pharmacies post-Katrina, there hasn't been much room for facilities to " specialty train " , so they are hoping we can get techs trained to the level they need. LA will only accept programs on it's list (following it's guidelines). There are some " corporate " training - Wal-mart, Rite-Aid - that are on the list, so I'm not sure if it includes all of the company's locations, or just the ones in LA. Techs in LA don't have to graduate from a " school " - just complete a " board approved program " . It can be a " formalized " training on-the-job. Unfortunately, that only means - the store may supply books, or have the student complete a computerized " training " , but they have give the state a listing of the topics the tech candidate will be learning. Retail is required to " teach " sterile, and hospital training programs are required to " teach " retail. The actuality is the candidate has book knowledge of the " other " areas, but no practicle experience. I've used lot's-o-parenthesis because it is somewhat " grey " to me.... If these " board approved " training programs were doing what they are supposed to be doing, they state pass rate would not have been 55% last year........I'm hoping since this " education requirement " was only implimented in Jan 2005, that in the near future, the results of the current standards might be evaluated and a tougher (truer, enforcable) education requirement might be implimented. As it currently stands, XYZ Rx on the corner can submit a " guideline for training " to the board and become " board approved " - doesn't mean they are actually teaching what they are supposed to be teaching. Now - something on a more personal side - the two of us need to get out more - what the heck are we doing spending Sat night e-mailing back and forth? hehe - Oh yea, because we are dedicated to the field. Love to you, Respectfully, Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT Technician Educator Texpert **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Great Info Anne! Great Stats! I have about at 98% passing and my students do 330 hours of externship. 96% get hired from externship. I teach at the FIRST school in US to require PTCB before graduation back in 2001! So I have years of stats. But I don't have 100%. I did the first two years. Your added information raises a lot of issues with me! !. What if a person took the PTCB exam more than three times in another state then moved to LA? It seems unfair to the LA resident that they can only take it 3 times (even if I agree with that). 2. Does LA accept a person's tech education form another state IF they have not taken the PTCB yet? or only LA voc schooling? Do they accept the hours from the out of state externship? 3. Does LA accept ALL of the 400 hours of your student clinicals or externship hours? Would they accept all 600 if you required it or do some hours have to be as a candidate on the paying job ? Just VERY curious! Next: May I place this in the state FAQ 's on this site in the file section? and can you supply LA State board contact information? Next: How much does it cost to go through the course you teach? and How long does it take? Do they get an AS or AA or certificate? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Pharmacy Technician Educator Foudner/Owner of this site InstructorCPhT@... wrote: Suzette, Are you originally from LA or TX? What setting are you working in? How long have you been a tech? How is the job market for techs in Lafayette? Have you completed the 600 training hours required by the LABP? (being that Suzette is PTCB certified, she would not be required to be in a " board approved program " , but is still required to work as a " Technician Candidate " for 600 hours - more on this below. Previous employment/education in another state means nothing to the LABP - only already possessing a PTCB certification matters) An applicant to LA does have to " declare " licenses/registrations from other states - but hours don't recipricate. The applicant must submit documentation of the current status of registration in another state. They must also submit a letter as too whether or not they have had any disciplinary action taken against them. Jeanetta - the remainder is primarily to you for your information regarding LA registration. Anyone else interested in being a Technician in LA may also find it useful. The rest of you may look at the length and say - ah, I don't need to read all this.... so I'll put my salutation here. Respectfully, Anne P LaVance, BS,CPhT Texpert Pharmacy Technician Program Director Delgado Community College New Orleans, LA An FYI regarding LA and pharmacy technicians. The LABP requires techs to EITHER be attending a " state approved program " OR already be nationally certifified by the PTCB to apply for a Training Permit. Under the training permit, the Technician Candidate (as they are referred to by the LABP) has to complete 600 training hours. The Candidate Permit is only valid for 18 months. They can not renew it if they do not complete the requirements in the time limit, and as far as I am aware - NO EXTENSIONS. The hours expire 1 year after the expiration of the Permit. If they are a student - 200 of the hours must be overseen by the program they are in (my students do 400 hours - 200 hours / 5 wks in a retail setting and 200 hours / 5 wks in an institutional setting). Technician Candidates have 18 months to complete their 600 hours. A student must also pass the PTCE given by the PTCB (the only test LABP currently recognizes), complete their program and have a notarized affidavit of the 600 hours. Tthey submit a copy of the wall certificate from the PTCB, their notarized hours, and their graduation certificate with an application to become a Pharmacy Technician. The cost of the Candidate application is $25. When the LABP reviews the application, they return a background check to the applicant - it is sent to both the FBI and State police (approx. $45 - there is also a charge to have the fingerprinting done, but that veries by the police entity from the parrish the applicant is from, usually $10-15). It can take up to 3 months if there is a problem with the system reading the fingerprints for the background check or the candiate graduated from a school in another country. My student's had all submitted their applications late Sept, then they all got there background checks returned to the state by the end of Oct (they all had them sent back because the price had changed, and the State Police wouldn't take the original checks - make sure if you pay with a money order, you get them from your bank so that IF you need to, you can change the amount). One of my students is from Viet Nam - she received her permit Jan 8. Another student had to redo her fingerprint card (they couldn't read the prints the first time), then the second time was " bad " too, so they had to do a " manual " SS# search - her permit came in Jan 17. PTCB - LABP requires that if the Candidate did not pass the exam by the second attempt, they must contact the board that they intend to reattempt, but they must wait (I believe) 6 months (to study). After 3 attempts, the board will not accept a PTCB certificate. The cost of the application to get a Pharmacy Techncian Certificate is $100. Renewal is required annually (June 30). LABP requires 10 hours of ACPE accredited CE's every year (the cost of renewal is $50). They do not require a CPhT to renew their PTCB certification once they have taken the test - I always strongly suggest to my students that they keep it current, in case they need to move (Katrina) and it is required in another state. Also, they only have to pay the extra $35 every two years, they can use the same CEs they submit to the state. If a student does not complete my program. I am required to contact the LABP, they will request the student surrender their permit. They can get their permit back if they enter another " board approved program " by contacting the board and requesting reinstatement (but the clock never stopped ticking). Some interesting statistics from the LABP annual meetings: July 2005 - June 2006 the national pass rate for the PTCB was 78%, LA pass rate was 76% - my graduates: 100%; July 2006 - June 2007 (the exam went to the computerized version) National pass rate was 65%; LA pass rate was 55% - my graduates (yup - you guessed it!) 100%. Payscales in the NO area are getting more competitive - I get contacted every week from pharmacies looking for techs (all of my students get job offers on their clinicals - usually from both sites), so I never have anyone to refer. Last week I had someone wanting a FT 9-6, M-F w/ benefits, starting at $13.50/hr (and they asked if that was enough/competitive) - I told them, I believe higher would be better, but they were competitive (on the high end at that). **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Anne, My program already teaches TPN's, Chemo, Reconstitution IVPB's and of course LVP's so each student gets that. My stats are on FIRST time. We require that they take PTCB but not pass. We do so in case they were to move out of state, to have an ASHP assessment that is meaningful to ASHP. However my students have to pass 9 comprehensive FINAL (long) exams with a B 80% or above with a 85%or above in math and 95% or above in Trade/generic. The final exam testing is over a 5 day period. I commend you on the specialization. We also have HIPAA certification. More questions: All in all if a person started from scratch with pre-reqs how long would it take? Also I donot think you answered one of my questions or I did not ask it right: WILL LA accept school cert of completion from a pharm voc school or program from out of state? I now understand they won't accept any work or externship hours, but what about school? From what i understood every new tech in LA must graduate from such a school. Correct? So the list of accepted schools does this include out of state? For those who do not know ms Anne La Vance, she is a good friend, professional associate and also the moderator of my Pharm Tech Educators site and a TEXPERT of this site. Thank you so much for the enlightenment As always, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Pharm Tech Educator > > J, > Of course you can post the info. The Louisiana State Board of Pharmacy is > at _www.labp.com_ (http://www.labp.com) or 5615 Corporate Blvd, Ste 8-E, > Baton Rouge, LA 70808. > > The 100% pass rate is for graduates. I have had students who did not > complete program, but attempt the test, not pass. My overall pass rate of graduates > / non-graduates is 97% on first attempt, 100% on second attempt. I've only > had 1 student not complete, and not pass, that did not attempt a second time. > > " Your added information raises a lot of issues with me! " Questions and > Responses: > !. What if a person took the PTCB exam more than three times in another > state then moved to LA? It seems unfair to the LA resident that they can only > take it 3 times (even if I agree with that). > > ANS: If they have passed the exam by the time they apply in LA, I don't > know that there would be an issue (my best guess). I think the 3 time rule is > for the " in program " candidates - part of the reason the LABP inacted the > " state approved program " requirement was because of the low pass rate. This was > to make employers who " train " techs to be required to prepare them better for > the exam. > > > 2. Does LA accept a person's tech education form another state IF they have > not taken the PTCB yet? or only LA voc schooling? Do they accept the hours > from the out of state externship? > > ANS: LABP only will recognize a program on their list (to be on the list, a > program must submit an application and an outline of the curriculum/training > modules following guidelines that can be found on the LABP site. Many > pharmacies are " board approved " , it is not just formal education that is required. > They will not accept hours from any other state - no matter what. When I > moved here, I had 240 hours from my extern and 10,000 in the field - I still had > to do 500 " LA " hours (that was the requirement prior to Jan 05). > I would think that WHEN we have a national education standard, reciprication > may be utilized, but since there is no consistance in requirements for > training state-to-state, the PTCB is the only marker for someone coming in from > another state. If a tech was to come to LA and NOT be PTCB certified, they > would either have to take the test before applying to be able to work as a > Candidate, OR they would have to go through a " program " . > > 3. Does LA accept ALL of the 400 hours of your student clinicals or > externship hours? Would they accept all 600 if you required it or do some hours have > to be as a candidate on the paying job ? > > ANS: I am only REQUIRED to oversee a minimum of 200 of the 600 hours - > because my students do 400, they only have the remaining 200 to complete to > satisfy the state. Since most of them accept offers from their preceptor, the 200 > are finished quickly. I have had student's that did not plan to work in the > field right away (they were starting pre-reqs for Pre-pharm) and didn't want > to start a job, then quit in two months, so they arranged " volunteer " time > with one of their preceptors to complete their 200 remaining hours. I am > working on an " elective " in a specialty area that would allow the students to > complete all 600 hours under my program. > > My program is ASHP accredited, not a requirement in LA - but is in some > states. My students MUST graduate to satisfy the LABP requirements (or they have > a number of hoops to jump through to work around it). ASHP requires that I > provide the students with a certificate of completion recognizing that it is > an ASHP accredited program. This certificate would be if they went to a > state requiring/recognizing attendance at an ASHP accredited program. > > My program is currently only offered as a CTS (certificate of technical > studies). BUT - I am developing curriculum and a proposal to offer an option of > an AA. I would like to have two avenues for the students - a General Studies > (Pre-pharm) curriculum, and a business concentration (Supervisory, Pharm > Sales...). > Our tuition is about $1100/semester (so with books - about $2500 for the > program - not counting the pre-reqs). My students must complete 7 hours of > pre-reqs (A & P w/ lab, and Med Term). They must be at College Algebra Level and > ENG 101 level (so if they have to do remedial or don't test high enough on > the math, they would have to take additional courses to get to level). My > program is basically 2 semesters once they enter if they start in the fall, if > they start Summer or Spring, it is 3 semsesters, but 2 are part-time semesters. > (less hours in the summer because of the shorter semester). > > We don't require PTCB to graduate, but I am thinking about a comprehensive > exit exam...... > > Another thing I am developing is an ACPE accredited Sterile Products (beyond > the " basic " course I already teach) and a separate Chemo/TPN course (for > techs in the field who don't have hospital training, but would like it, and to > recert the techs and RPh's in the field for CE) and as an elective for more > specialized training for my in-program students. I'm also looking at electives > for compounding and specialized vett. compounding (we have a vett tech > program at our school), and a " pharmacy supervision " course - buying, scheduling, > man power plans, OTC marketing/displays, organizing health screens for > pharmacy - that kind of thing, purhaps even a course with technology focus - for > automation. My advisory board wants student's with " specialization " , niche > techs if you will. > > Respectfully, > Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT > Pharmacy Techinician Educator > Texpert > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Thanks for such great info! You are a true friend and tech advocate and a great teacher. I am so proud and lucky to have you here on this site! Yeah so when are we going to party in LA? Ha! Yeah let's talk privately later on that! Love you too! Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS F/O > > J, > I also teach TPN, Chemo, reconstitiution, and sterile product preparation as > part of my Sterile Products class. But the " general " sterile products > course I am developing (or just spit-polishing my current course) would be ACPE > accredited. I am also developing an more indepth - specialized Chemo/TPN > elective (we spend about 2 weeks in class and have 3 labs on these topics), with a > 2 week intern at a specialized facility. Techs in LA were not allowed to > make chemos until 2005 (in fact many pharmacists still aren't even aware that > techs can now " legally " make chemo in LA) - so there are very few " chemo " > trained techs. A local hospital is partnering with MD and will be > opening a chemo center next year and will need 4 TRAINED chemo techs - right now > there is practically a non-existant selection pool. We are still SOOOOO short > staffed in operations for pharmacies post-Katrina, there hasn't been much > room for facilities to " specialty train " , so they are hoping we can get techs > trained to the level they need. > > LA will only accept programs on it's list (following it's guidelines). > There are some " corporate " training - Wal-mart, Rite-Aid - that are on the list, > so I'm not sure if it includes all of the company's locations, or just the > ones in LA. Techs in LA don't have to graduate from a " school " - just complete > a " board approved program " . It can be a " formalized " training on-the-job. > Unfortunately, that only means - the store may supply books, or have the > student complete a computerized " training " , but they have give the state a listing > of the topics the tech candidate will be learning. Retail is required to > " teach " sterile, and hospital training programs are required to " teach " retail. > The actuality is the candidate has book knowledge of the " other " areas, but > no practicle experience. > I've used lot's-o-parenthesis because it is somewhat " grey " to me.... If > these " board approved " training programs were doing what they are supposed to > be doing, they state pass rate would not have been 55% last year........I'm > hoping since this " education requirement " was only implimented in Jan 2005, that > in the near future, the results of the current standards might be evaluated > and a tougher (truer, enforcable) education requirement might be implimented. > As it currently stands, XYZ Rx on the corner can submit a " guideline for > training " to the board and become " board approved " - doesn't mean they are > actually teaching what they are supposed to be teaching. > > > Now - something on a more personal side - the two of us need to get out more > - what the heck are we doing spending Sat night e-mailing back and forth? > hehe - Oh yea, because we are dedicated to the field. > Love to you, > Respectfully, > Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT > Technician Educator > Texpert > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 This course below, where is it offered. Jeanetta I moved from Ohio to Louisiana and have 15years hospital pharmacy expericance. Did not have to be certified but I know in La that is a requirement. Now about these 600 hours, who can I talk to? I know I have to take the test but how do I inquire about these hours and how to obtain them. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Not excepting out of state experiance. I've done just about everything working in the hospital pharmacy. Who would I contact? Thanks Carla > > J, > I also teach TPN, Chemo, reconstitiution, and sterile product preparation as > part of my Sterile Products class. But the " general " sterile products > course I am developing (or just spit-polishing my current course) would be ACPE > accredited. I am also developing an more indepth - specialized Chemo/TPN > elective (we spend about 2 weeks in class and have 3 labs on these topics), with a > 2 week intern at a specialized facility. Techs in LA were not allowed to > make chemos until 2005 (in fact many pharmacists still aren't even aware that > techs can now " legally " make chemo in LA) - so there are very few " chemo " > trained techs. A local hospital is partnering with MD and will be > opening a chemo center next year and will need 4 TRAINED chemo techs - right now > there is practically a non-existant selection pool. We are still SOOOOO short > staffed in operations for pharmacies post-Katrina, there hasn't been much > room for facilities to " specialty train " , so they are hoping we can get techs > trained to the level they need. > > LA will only accept programs on it's list (following it's guidelines). > There are some " corporate " training - Wal-mart, Rite-Aid - that are on the list, > so I'm not sure if it includes all of the company's locations, or just the > ones in LA. Techs in LA don't have to graduate from a " school " - just complete > a " board approved program " . It can be a " formalized " training on- the-job. > Unfortunately, that only means - the store may supply books, or have the > student complete a computerized " training " , but they have give the state a listing > of the topics the tech candidate will be learning. Retail is required to > " teach " sterile, and hospital training programs are required to " teach " retail. > The actuality is the candidate has book knowledge of the " other " areas, but > no practicle experience. > I've used lot's-o-parenthesis because it is somewhat " grey " to me.... If > these " board approved " training programs were doing what they are supposed to > be doing, they state pass rate would not have been 55% last year........I'm > hoping since this " education requirement " was only implimented in Jan 2005, that > in the near future, the results of the current standards might be evaluated > and a tougher (truer, enforcable) education requirement might be implimented. > As it currently stands, XYZ Rx on the corner can submit a " guideline for > training " to the board and become " board approved " - doesn't mean they are > actually teaching what they are supposed to be teaching. > > > Now - something on a more personal side - the two of us need to get out more > - what the heck are we doing spending Sat night e-mailing back and forth? > hehe - Oh yea, because we are dedicated to the field. > Love to you, > Respectfully, > Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT > Technician Educator > Texpert > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer? video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 i can see one reason why they are short in the pharmacies. the LABP is UNWILLING to accept the YEARS of experience potential transplants have. I do hope you are paid during this 600 hour training period, if not, that's a lot of time to be working for free. J, I also teach TPN, Chemo, reconstitiution, and sterile product preparation as part of my Sterile Products class. But the " general " sterile products course I am developing (or just spit-polishing my current course) would be ACPE accredited. I am also developing an more indepth - specialized Chemo/TPN elective (we spend about 2 weeks in class and have 3 labs on these topics), with a 2 week intern at a specialized facility. Techs in LA were not allowed to make chemos until 2005 (in fact many pharmacists > still aren't even aware that > techs can now " legally " make chemo in LA) - so there > are very few " chemo " > trained techs. A local hospital is partnering with > MD and will be > opening a chemo center next year and will need 4 > TRAINED chemo techs - right now > there is practically a non-existant selection pool. > We are still SOOOOO short > staffed in operations for pharmacies post-Katrina, > there hasn't been much > room for facilities to " specialty train " , so they > are hoping we can get techs > trained to the level they need. > > LA will only accept programs on it's list (following > it's guidelines). > There are some " corporate " training - Wal-mart, > Rite-Aid - that are on the list, > so I'm not sure if it includes all of the company's > locations, or just the > ones in LA. Techs in LA don't have to graduate from > a " school " - just complete > a " board approved program " . It can be a > " formalized " training on-the-job. > Unfortunately, that only means - the store may > supply books, or have the > student complete a computerized " training " , but they > have give the state a listing > of the topics the tech candidate will be learning. > Retail is required to > " teach " sterile, and hospital training programs are > required to " teach " retail. > The actuality is the candidate has book knowledge > of the " other " areas, but > no practicle experience. > I've used lot's-o-parenthesis because it is somewhat > " grey " to me.... If > these " board approved " training programs were doing > what they are supposed to > be doing, they state pass rate would not have been > 55% last year........I'm > hoping since this " education requirement " was only > implimented in Jan 2005, that > in the near future, the results of the current > standards might be evaluated > and a tougher (truer, enforcable) education > requirement might be implimented. > As it currently stands, XYZ Rx on the corner can > submit a " guideline for > training " to the board and become " board approved " > - doesn't mean they are > actually teaching what they are supposed to be > teaching. > > > Now - something on a more personal side - the two of > us need to get out more > - what the heck are we doing spending Sat night > e-mailing back and forth? > hehe - Oh yea, because we are dedicated to the > field. > Love to you, > Respectfully, > Anne LaVance, BS, CPhT > Technician Educator > Texpert > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. > Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15 & ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > " If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be. " - Yogi Berra ONLY AFTER YOU'VE LOST EVERYTHING ARE YOU FREE TO DO ANYTHING like myspace? try yuwie! http://r.yuwie.com/katbird_27 if you have the time to click on an e-mail link like this one: http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/ID/2425657 you really can earn some extra cash! even easier just get paid to surf! http://www.agloco.com/r/BBBP9226 ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for users and friends. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text1.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Carla, I feel your frustration. Anne went through the same thing. I can't tell you. But from reading what Anne wrote I would say contact the state board first to get your candidate permit to work the 600 hours then send it in according to their instructions. Ann you have any special words on this to Carla? Jeanetta inspectorfw <cmtwhite@...> wrote: This course below, where is it offered. Jeanetta I moved from Ohio to Louisiana and have 15years hospital pharmacy expericance. Did not have to be certified but I know in La that is a requirement. Now about these 600 hours, who can I talk to? I know I have to take the test but how do I inquire about these hours and how to obtain them. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Not excepting out of state experiance. I've done just about everything working in the hospital pharmacy. Who would I contact? Thanks Carla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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