Moving

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Carla contacted me through one of my other e-mail addresses and I've given

her some specific advice.

Anyone else in LA with questions - please feel free to contact me!

Anne

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Thank you Anne!

I really appreciate the way everyone steps in to help members on this site.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

F/O

InstructorCPhT@... wrote: Carla contacted me

through one of my other e-mail addresses and I've given

her some specific advice.

Anyone else in LA with questions - please feel free to contact me!

Anne

[Guest guest]

I have moved twice since our intial exposure. It became apparent to me on the first move that I/we (my son) were the problem. I took almost nothing with us. I then seperated the both of us for a couple of months on my second relocation due to work. Not only have I confirmed my internal infestation, but now my sons. I had a lovely three level townhome at one time chock full of good stuff. I threw away 5600 lbs of furniture and stuff and stored the rest. The storage I am afraid to go near and am investigating getting a haz mat suit myself......lol Theres my story so far. My best wishes.

MOVING

hey i'm planning to move soon and do not want to bring the bird miteswith me. any idea on how i can do this without throwing out everything? thanks!

[Guest guest]

internal infestation??? so it's not mites cause mites are suppose to be external right? hmm did you do a parasite cleanse to help it. if it's internal, that should help i think. anyway, i hope your problem is gone now. MOVING

hey i'm planning to move soon and do not want to bring the bird miteswith me. any idea on how i can do this without throwing out everything? thanks!

[Guest guest]

and group;

 

That's OK ,  The trigger on migraines can be hard to find.  At least I got

a pain med to stop them for a while.  Maybe I should get a hypothyroid test, 

and my migraines would leave. Medicine is a weird thing.

 

Thanks anyway,  Oh I hate moving.  Everything in box's.  Sometimes its

necessary.  God bless and take care.

 

Gentle hugs

Clora 

 

 

 

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> > From: <leslielick777@ ...>

> > Subject: [ ] Is it really RA?

> > @gro ups.com

> > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 2:12 PM

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> > Hi Everyone,

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> > I don't do much here, but am glad that you are here when I need you. I was

wondering

> if

> > there is a more concrete way to know if a diagnosis is correct or not for

RA. My initial

> > blood work showed a positive RA/RF I can't remember what it's called. But

after each

> > yearly test, it has come back normal and the initial readings were barely

positive. My

C-

> > reactive Protein levels are off the charts, which only indicates that there

is

inflammation

> > somewhere in the body. The other tests like ana and others were slightly

above or

below

> > normal which ever applies. I just want to find out if I truly have the right

diagnosis. I

> have

> > been on MTX for 2 years plus, and Enbrel for about a year with no change. My

wrists

> > ache, my fingers ache my knees ache, I have trouble grabbing and holding

onto

things

> > like a very clumsy child.

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> > I never have swelling in my hands, feet, ankles or anywhere for that matter.

I do have

> > Osteoarthritis in my neck and spine and other joints of my body. I just need

answers

> and

> > my rheummy is certain that I have RA or ankylosing spondylitis, but there is

no real

> proof

> > that I do. What should I do next? I had a 2nd opinion about a year ago from

another

> > rheumatologist who said I don't have RA, but wasn't sure what I had so he

sent me

> home

> > with a prescription for pain which I don't want. So, that was a negative

experience.

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> > I'm so confused. What should I do next? Is there a way to take fluid from

the joint and

> test

> > it for RA or any other auto immune disorder?

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> > Thanks for listening.

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[Guest guest]

Although this is a good idea, ive resigned to basically toss 90% of my stuff.

That couch has alot of chemicals sprayed on it, and we have a baby. First thing

i want is peace of mind. i dont want to find we have a problem after we move. i

dont want to worry about the baby putting her face on the couch. I want to

comfortably sit and not have to worry about anything at all whatsoever. So what

we wont have a damn thing when we get there. We will just put the kids

trampoline in the living room and sleep and sit on it. LOL

I plan on posting my moving plan soon!

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday i covered my floors heavily in DE and RP mixture. Today i dont

feel the mites jumping on my legs like they used to. Mixing the RP powder with

DE is a good way to make the RP more affordable. Just make sure that this

mixture isnt anywhere where it could get wet. DE loses its effectiveness when it

gets wet. Also dont use it in your laundry. I like this mixture for the floor,

it works great!

> > > >

> > > > ** Careful not to breathe thi mixture in.

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[Guest guest]

Sounds great Holly!

> > > > >

> > > > > Yesterday i covered my floors heavily in DE and RP mixture. Today i

dont feel the mites jumping on my legs like they used to. Mixing the RP powder

with DE is a good way to make the RP more affordable. Just make sure that this

mixture isnt anywhere where it could get wet. DE loses its effectiveness when it

gets wet. Also dont use it in your laundry. I like this mixture for the floor,

it works great!

> > > > >

> > > > > ** Careful not to breathe thi mixture in.

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[Guest guest]

Hi there, im currently staying w my mum in a mouldy house... I moved here after

getting sick in my old house and staying in many other mouldy houses.

She and i both very sick... Cirs-wdb, lots of nasty auto immune stuff going on.

She unwilling and unable to go live in a tent and throw her stuff behind, just

not going to happen.

This house is really messed up, i can smell a rotting smell after rain. Very

bad. The car also contaminated in the ac, get reactions there too.

I cant be in any other room but my own for too long. I do get symptoms in my own

room but they are lesser.... I get worse all the time though...

Was wondering whether moving would provide much benefit at all. Would it slow

things down? How quickly do things cross contaminate? Surely living in a mould

free house would still be better than mouldy despite cross contamination and her

bringing clothing etc from this house. She would probably keep car.

I know this probably all silly questions and me clutching at straws yet again.

Just wondering though since my room gives me less symptoms and ive been sleeping

in here 6 weeks now, still the cross contamination is lesser than other areas of

the house..

Dont want to go through moving if the benefit is very minimal as its costly on

many levels, also finding a suitable house thats safe mcs wise proving v

difficult... At same time hate sitting around watching things get worse...

[Guest guest]

Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I'd keep jewelry. Maybe put it in sealed plastic bags for a couple of years. I used to get biting under my watch and wedding ring and I quit wearing those for a few years, but now no problem with them at all.From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:31 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I didn't throw everything away. A lo of my things were stored for a year, but many things I kept with me. When I treated the chronic infections whatever was in my environment and on me gradually went away. It took about a year. Now I have all my old things and no more infestation whatsoever. Of course I'm still treating Lyme and other chronic infections. Slow and steady. Cleaning and topical applications will only temporarily calm the situation. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:14 PM, whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen.  It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff.  Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now.  I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things.  She is driving me around as my car is infected also.  She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Hi whatstheuse2, 

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse.  We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul.  My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets.  The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them.  We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever.  One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally!  I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work.  We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.  

From: " whatstheuse2 " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving  

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday.  I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week.  It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer.  I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you.  The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen.  It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff.  Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now.  I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things.  She is driving me around as my car is infected also.  She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Hi whatstheuse2, 

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse.  We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul.  My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets.  The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them.  We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever.  One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally!  I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work.  We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.  

From: " whatstheuse2 " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving  

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Which colloidal silver are you using ? We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially. From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Aandraya is right about this. I had some of the worst foot sensations I've ever heard of and it was Bartonella. L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I used Nutrisilver too, it only helped for a short while and then seemed to lose it's effect.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Which colloidal silver are you using ? We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially. From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Some people swear by CS, but take 8-12 oz a day.On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

Which colloidal silver are you using ? We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially. From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving

Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Whatstheuse2,

I kept a pair of earrings and keep them submerged in aloohol in a plastic container in my bathroom. I put them on evemorning and drop them into the alcohol in the evening.

Love and light,

From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Movingbird mites Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 6:14 PM

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Does the metal touch the alcohol? From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:09:49 PMSubject: Re: Moving

Hi Whatstheuse2,

I kept a pair of earrings and keep them submerged in aloohol in a plastic container in my bathroom. I put them on evemorning and drop them into the alcohol in the evening.

Love and light,

From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Movingbird mites Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 6:14 PM

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.