Moving

[Guest guest]

Yes. Remember when you first got your ears periced? You had to keep alcohol on the wound and the earings in alcohol for quite some time.

Love and light,

.

From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Movingbird mites Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 6:14 PM

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Yes... somehow I was thinking they might corrode. L.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:22:18 PMSubject: Re: Moving

Yes. Remember when you first got your ears periced? You had to keep alcohol on the wound and the earings in alcohol for quite some time.

Love and light,

.

From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Movingbird mites Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 6:14 PM

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I felt like I had sand in my shoes and the soles of my feet were red and inflamed. What about yours? LSent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 2:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Foot pain, joint pain would come and go, buzzing/electrical sensation under the skin-especially at night, pin prick sensations, biting, stabbing sensations, blister like spots, lesions that don't really heal, inflammation- especially ankles and auxiliaries, enlarged blue veins, spider veins, debris coming out of skin, skin thickening and in some areas thinning, hair falling out, body hair not growing and/or growing under the skin, white mottled spots on skin, subcutaneous skin nodules, lumpiness and hard-packed tissue under the skin, headaches, insomnia, later on leathery like texture of skin. Hypersensitive and painful skin. Brain fog, memory loss, anxiety, depression, obsessive thoughts, rage, suicidal thoughts.Of course I had the insect infestation in my living environment and on my body for the first year including fuzz balls on all fabric. I did all the cleaning regimens and tried every chemical and natural skin topical known to man. Spent thousands of dollars.Now all of these symptoms are diminished, some gone, some come and go, and of course when you treat with antibiotics the herxheimer effect is no picnic. The symptoms WILL get worse before they get better. There is no way around this based on personal experience and that of others who have gone through it.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 4:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Yep, that's how it is. Intolerable at times. Bartonella, some people say this sensation is worse in the morning.On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:54 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

I felt like I had sand in my shoes and the soles of my feet were red and inflamed. What about yours? LSent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 2:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Just to be clear, right now I'm treating with Levaquin, Mepron, Artemisinin, Voriconazole, and Doxycycline. As well as my detox regimen, vitamins, minerals, omegas, and other herbals. AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 4:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Aandraya! You have been through a lot! So glad you are much better.Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

Foot pain, joint pain would come and go, buzzing/electrical sensation under the skin-especially at night, pin prick sensations, biting, stabbing sensations, blister like spots, lesions that don't really heal, inflammation- especially ankles and auxiliaries, enlarged blue veins, spider veins, debris coming out of skin, skin thickening and in some areas thinning, hair falling out, body hair not growing and/or growing under the skin, white mottled spots on skin, subcutaneous skin nodules, lumpiness and hard-packed tissue under the skin, headaches, insomnia, later on leathery like texture of skin. Hypersensitive and painful skin. Brain fog, memory loss, anxiety, depression, obsessive thoughts, rage, suicidal thoughts.Of course I had the insect infestation in my living environment and on my body for the first year including fuzz balls on all fabric. I did all the cleaning regimens and tried every chemical and natural skin topical known to man. Spent thousands of dollars.Now all of these symptoms are diminished, some gone, some come and go, and of course when you treat with antibiotics the herxheimer effect is no picnic. The symptoms WILL get worse before they get better. There is no way around this based on personal experience and that of others who have gone through it.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 4:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later. You and seem to have made the most progress overall.Thanks. Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Earth's Bounty. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Which colloidal silver are you using ?  

We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially.  

From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving  

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday.  I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week.  It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer.  I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you.  The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen.  It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff.  Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now.  I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things.  She is driving me around as my car is infected also.  She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Hi whatstheuse2, 

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse.  We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul.  My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets.  The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them.  We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever.  One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally!  I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work.  We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.  

From: " whatstheuse2 " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving  

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Here is something from Joyce Meyer that is helping me right now -

 

  God's Word vs. Your Feelingsby Joyce Meyer

Every day, we are faced with a decision: Will we respond to life's circumstances according to God's Word or will we react emotionally? The initial temptation is to react emotionally, but in every circumstance, it's truly your decision.

Let's examine three circumstances you're going to have to face at some point in your life. I've also included some questions to ask yourself, which I encourage you to answer honestly. They will give you a good idea of how big a part your feelings play in these circumstances.

Circumstance #1: Change Everything changes except God, and letting all the changes in our lives upset us won't keep them from occurring. People change, circumstances change, our bodies change, our desires and passions change.

Most changes take place without our permission. But we can choose to adapt. Adapting doesn't change the circumstances, but it does keep you living in peace and joy as you go through change.

First Things First

Our thoughts are the first thing we need to deal with during change because thoughts directly affect emotions. When circumstances change, make the transition mentally, and your emotions will be a lot easier to manage. If something changes that you are not ready for and did not choose, you will more than likely have a variety of emotions about it.

The Power of God's Word

“Emotions rise up and then move out, wanting us to follow them. When I feel that, I know I need to take action.”

By acting on God's Word and not merely reacting to the situation, you'll be able to manage your emotions instead of allowing them to manage you. I strongly recommend confessing the Word of God out loud. Even though what you confess may be the opposite of how you feel, keep doing it. God's Word has inherent power to change our feelings, bring comfort to us, and quiet our distraught emotions.

Ask Yourself

How do I respond to change?

Do I act on God's Word or merely react to the situation?

After the initial shock, am I willing to make a transition mentally and emotionally?

Circumstance #2: Waiting

If you have not developed patience, then having to wait may bring out the worst in you. At least that was the case with me until I finally realized my emotional reactions were not making things go any faster.

We would all like to be patient, but we don't want to develop patience because that means behaving well while we are not getting what we want. And that's hard!

The Road to Peacefulness

The more we want something, the more our emotions will act up if we do not get it. Common sense tells us it is rather foolish to get into a rage over a parking space or other simple things people tend to get upset about. As you develop patience, don't merely think about how hard and frustrating it is, think about how peaceful you will be when waiting never bothers you (see 1:4).

Ask Yourself

How do I behave when I have to wait?

What situations are difficult for me?

How do I act when I'm working with someone who is really slow?

How do I act if someone takes the parking space I've been waiting for?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how well do I handle myself when things don't go my way?

Circumstance #3: Difficult People

No one likes being around difficult people. I think there are a lot of people in the world like that today, largely because of the stressful lives most of them have. People are trying to do too much in too little time and have more responsibility than they can realistically handle.

When someone is rude to me, I can feel my emotions rise up and then move out, wanting me to follow them. That's when I know I need to take action. I have to remember that the person being rude probably has a lot of problems. She may not even realize how she sounds.

Working with the Holy Spirit

I certainly remember lots of times in my life when people asked me why I was being so harsh. I didn't realize that I was. I just had a lot going on and felt pressured, so the pressure came through in harsh voice tones. That didn't excuse my bad behavior, but it was the root of the problem.

I am very thankful I know the Word of God and have Him in my life to help and comfort me. But a lot of difficult people don't have that. I have had to work very hard with the Holy Spirit for the ability to act on God's Word when people are rude…instead of merely reacting with a behavior that matches or tops theirs.

Jesus teaches us how to respond to those who treat us well and those who do not (see Luke 6:32–35).

If you are in a situation that requires you to be with one of these hard-to-get-along-with people every day, I urge you to pray for them instead of reacting emotionally to them. Our prayers open a door for God to work through.

Ask Yourself

How do I react to people who are rude?

Do I respond in love as the Word says we should, or do I join them in their ungodly behavior?

Will I act on the Word of God and love them for His sake? Or will I react emotionally, perhaps acting worse than they act?

Have I ever let a rude person ruin my day?

Live Beyond Your Feelings

Feelings will come and go. We can't escape them, but when we choose to live by God's Word and not our feelings. Even when it doesn't feel right, we can live with an incredible peace and joy. I encourage you to go through the questions again and search God's Word in every circumstance you face. He will help you live beyond your feelings!

This article is taken from Joyce's book, Living Beyond

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:46 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Earth's Bounty. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Which colloidal silver are you using ?  

We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially.  

From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving  

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday.  I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week.  It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer.  I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you.  The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen.  It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff.  Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now.  I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things.  She is driving me around as my car is infected also.  She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Hi whatstheuse2, 

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse.  We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul.  My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets.  The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them.  We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever.  One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally!  I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work.  We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.  

From: " whatstheuse2 " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving  

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

The foot sensation is definitely coming from the foot pedal b/c I soaked my feet in Epsom salts during a break and now it is back again.  I have to figure out how to cover the foot pedal. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

I felt like I had sand in my shoes and the soles of my feet were red and inflamed.  What about yours?  LSent from my iPod

On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:51 PM, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Please tell us what your symptoms were with bartonella and what they are now 4 months later.  You and seem to have made the most progress overall.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPod

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status.  Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

 

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone.  

From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...>

bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving 

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic.  CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial.  You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.

Aandraya  

On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday.  I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week.  It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer.  I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you.  The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen.  It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff.  Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now.  I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things.  She is driving me around as my car is infected also.  She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. 

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Hi whatstheuse2, 

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse.  We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul.  My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets.  The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them.  We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever.  One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally!  I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work.  We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.  

From: " whatstheuse2 " <terelynjon@...>

bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving  

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Which one? My favorite is The Lyme Disease Solution by Ken Singleton. Buhner's Healing Lyme is good if you're interested in the protocol, but it is extremely technical. I'm doing the Japanese knotwood with my meds, I'm taking so much stuff already I haven't implemented his protocol. He believes Lyme has to be treated with antibiotics and that his protocol will enhance the treatment.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I did order that book on Lyme disease you recommended. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Moving Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I ordered 1. Healing Lyme by Buhner and 2. The Top 10 Lyme Disease Protocols. I started the Rifampin tonight and my urine is a bright yellow, almost orange. Did that happen to you?From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:02:36 PMSubject: Re: Moving

Which one? My favorite is The Lyme Disease Solution by Ken Singleton. Buhner's Healing Lyme is good if you're interested in the protocol, but it is extremely technical. I'm doing the Japanese knotwood with my meds, I'm taking so much stuff already I haven't implemented his protocol. He believes Lyme has to be treated with antibiotics and that his protocol will enhance the treatment.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I did order that book on Lyme disease you recommended. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Moving Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I just read that that is a harmless part of taking this drug. Must get a liver test done before I start in this again.L.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:36:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I ordered 1. Healing Lyme by Buhner and 2. The Top 10 Lyme Disease Protocols. I started the Rifampin tonight and my urine is a bright yellow, almost orange. Did that happen to you?From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:02:36 PMSubject: Re: Moving

Which one? My favorite is The Lyme Disease Solution by Ken Singleton. Buhner's Healing Lyme is good if you're interested in the protocol, but it is extremely technical. I'm doing the Japanese knotwood with my meds, I'm taking so much stuff already I haven't implemented his protocol. He believes Lyme has to be treated with antibiotics and that his protocol will enhance the treatment.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I did order that book on Lyme disease you recommended. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Moving Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

LOL, yes, that is normal. It turns all the bodily fluids orange.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I ordered 1. Healing Lyme by Buhner and 2. The Top 10 Lyme Disease Protocols. I started the Rifampin tonight and my urine is a bright yellow, almost orange. Did that happen to you?From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:02:36 PMSubject: Re: Moving Which one? My favorite is The Lyme Disease Solution by Ken Singleton. Buhner's Healing Lyme is good if you're interested in the protocol, but it is extremely technical. I'm doing the Japanese knotwood with my meds, I'm taking so much stuff already I haven't implemented his protocol. He believes Lyme has to be treated with antibiotics and that his protocol will enhance the treatment.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I did order that book on Lyme disease you recommended. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Moving Biofilm is an issue for anyone with Lyme. Rifampin treats brain symptoms of Bart, Levquin treats from the neck down. Strange skin sensations is classic Bart.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I decided to use the Rifampin up since I had it already, so will report back if it seems to be helping... one of my main issues is biofilm, very little strange skin sensations in the last few months, occasional biting sensation on feet, but very rare. Also have had extreme fatigue for awhile. This is 300 mg Rifampin 2x/day. Dr. gives lots of refills if I want them. TYG for LLDs.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:51:58 PMSubject: Re: Moving Rifampin was somewhat effective for me, I really wasn't on it long enough. But from what I hear Levaquin is the topline treatment for Bart, it has been for me. Make sure you're on magnesium a couple weeks before taking it 800-1000 mg Mag glycinate, and stay on it throughout treatment- take 3 hrs away from Levaquin. The herxes are much more tolerable and less likely to have tendon issues that some get on Levaquin. The herx for me was brutal, but I'm not working. Start at 500 mg a day an hour away from food, after several months 500mg 2x a day. When I doubled the dose the herx was not as bad as when I first started on Levaquin. Hope this helps. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000474/Info about Prazequantil... maybe I should have bit the bullet and just tried it.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:56:01 PMSubject: Re: Moving Aandraya,My doctor prescribed Rifampin for Bartonella and I still have not taken the prescription, because I did not want to do Doxy with the Rifampin, but have the prescription since June. Do you know of anyone who has had luck with that or should I just ask her for Levaquin script? For Morgellons she prescribed Prazequantil, 600 Tid and Metronidazole, 250 mg Tid. I went to fill the script for Prazequantil and it would have cost me over $1,000 for one script. I said "no thanks."From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:36:16 PMSubject: Re: Moving It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote: I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote: I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Hi whatstheuse2, We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Aandraya!Do you think it can be Bartonella even if the skinscrapings were tested as staph?The whole family could get some of it before, but now when the 8-year old takes the bleachbaths she is so much better and the rest of the family has no lesions/blisters.Would that be the case even with Bartonella?They say the bleachbaths is like going to the swimminghall - do you still think it is toxic? (It would be awful doing toxic things to my daughter)Thanks!CeciliaFrom: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:42 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I didn't throw everything away. A lo of my things were stored for a year, but many things I kept with me. When I treated the chronic infections whatever was in my environment and on me gradually went away. It took about a year. Now I have all my old things and no more infestation whatsoever. Of course I'm still treating Lyme and other chronic infections. Slow and steady. Cleaning and topical applications will only temporarily calm the situation. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:14 PM, whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi!We packed everything and had a firm to come and take it away to throw on the dump.THey were informed of the situation, but I´m not sure they took it seriously, but at least we had someone to do it. The same firm now emptied our storage, because we decided to throw everything away from there as well.KRCeciliaFrom: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>To:

bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:14 PMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I can understand it feels sad to leave all the stuff. Can´t say what´s right , but we left EVRYTHING and are so much better. I guess it´s how bad you have it with the mites that makes you willing to sacrifice everything or maby not. I wish you good luck, no matter what you choose to do!CeciliaFrom: <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:42 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

We tried colloidal silver for 6 months, it didn´t help us, just costed a lot of money, but I guess it helps some.KRCeciliaFrom: <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:34 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

When you talk about footsensations do you meen itching?I had that last summer and for a week this spring as well, but fungal cream and changing socks helped me.Do you think it can still be related to the Bartonella?CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:28

PMSubject: Re: Moving

Aandraya is right about this. I had some of the worst foot sensations I've ever heard of and it was Bartonella. L.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Can you test if you have Bartonella and Babesia?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:36 PMSubject: Re: Moving

It's 8-12 months to treat, depending on how virulent the strain is, other coinfections, and of course immune system status. Levaquin has been nothing short of a miracle for my Bart. Going on 4 months.AandrayaOn Sep 8, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Goldstein@... wrote:

I probably most likely still have Bartonella, but the main symptoms are decreased and foot sensations are mostly gone. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:41:19 PMSubject: Re: Moving

The soles of the feet sensation is Bartonella- one of the Lyme coinfections, it's classic. CS will almost positively not be enough for an antimicrobial. You need multiple herbal and/or rx antibiotics.Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 2:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Great words!CFrom: <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 4:34 AMSubject: Re: Moving

Here is something from Joyce Meyer that is helping me right now -

God's Word vs. Your Feelingsby Joyce Meyer

Every day, we are faced with a decision: Will we respond to life's circumstances according to God's Word or will we react emotionally? The initial temptation is to react emotionally, but in every circumstance, it's truly your decision.

Let's examine three circumstances you're going to have to face at some point in your life. I've also included some questions to ask yourself, which I encourage you to answer honestly. They will give you a good idea of how big a part your feelings play in these circumstances.

Circumstance #1: Change Everything changes except God, and letting all the changes in our lives upset us won't keep them from occurring. People change, circumstances change, our bodies change, our desires and passions change.

Most changes take place without our permission. But we can choose to adapt. Adapting doesn't change the circumstances, but it does keep you living in peace and joy as you go through change.

First Things First

Our thoughts are the first thing we need to deal with during change because thoughts directly affect emotions. When circumstances change, make the transition mentally, and your emotions will be a lot easier to manage. If something changes that you are not ready for and did not choose, you will more than likely have a variety of emotions about it.

The Power of God's Word

“Emotions rise up and then move out, wanting us to follow them. When I feel that, I know I need to take action.â€

By acting on God's Word and not merely reacting to the situation, you'll be able to manage your emotions instead of allowing them to manage you. I strongly recommend confessing the Word of God out loud. Even though what you confess may be the opposite of how you feel, keep doing it. God's Word has inherent power to change our feelings, bring comfort to us, and quiet our distraught emotions.

Ask Yourself

How do I respond to change?

Do I act on God's Word or merely react to the situation?

After the initial shock, am I willing to make a transition mentally and emotionally?

Circumstance #2: Waiting

If you have not developed patience, then having to wait may bring out the worst in you. At least that was the case with me until I finally realized my emotional reactions were not making things go any faster.

We would all like to be patient, but we don't want to develop patience because that means behaving well while we are not getting what we want. And that's hard!

The Road to Peacefulness

The more we want something, the more our emotions will act up if we do not get it. Common sense tells us it is rather foolish to get into a rage over a parking space or other simple things people tend to get upset about. As you develop patience, don't merely think about how hard and frustrating it is, think about how peaceful you will be when waiting never bothers you (see 1:4).

Ask Yourself

How do I behave when I have to wait?

What situations are difficult for me?

How do I act when I'm working with someone who is really slow?

How do I act if someone takes the parking space I've been waiting for?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how well do I handle myself when things don't go my way?

Circumstance #3: Difficult People

No one likes being around difficult people. I think there are a lot of people in the world like that today, largely because of the stressful lives most of them have. People are trying to do too much in too little time and have more responsibility than they can realistically handle.

When someone is rude to me, I can feel my emotions rise up and then move out, wanting me to follow them. That's when I know I need to take action. I have to remember that the person being rude probably has a lot of problems. She may not even realize how she sounds.

Working with the Holy Spirit

I certainly remember lots of times in my life when people asked me why I was being so harsh. I didn't realize that I was. I just had a lot going on and felt pressured, so the pressure came through in harsh voice tones. That didn't excuse my bad behavior, but it was the root of the problem.

I am very thankful I know the Word of God and have Him in my life to help and comfort me. But a lot of difficult people don't have that. I have had to work very hard with the Holy Spirit for the ability to act on God's Word when people are rude…instead of merely reacting with a behavior that matches or tops theirs.

Jesus teaches us how to respond to those who treat us well and those who do not (see Luke 6:32–35).

If you are in a situation that requires you to be with one of these hard-to-get-along-with people every day, I urge you to pray for them instead of reacting emotionally to them. Our prayers open a door for God to work through.

Ask Yourself

How do I react to people who are rude?

Do I respond in love as the Word says we should, or do I join them in their ungodly behavior?

Will I act on the Word of God and love them for His sake? Or will I react emotionally, perhaps acting worse than they act?

Have I ever let a rude person ruin my day?

Live Beyond Your Feelings

Feelings will come and go. We can't escape them, but when we choose to live by God's Word and not our feelings. Even when it doesn't feel right, we can live with an incredible peace and joy. I encourage you to go through the questions again and search God's Word in every circumstance you face. He will help you live beyond your feelings!

This article is taken from Joyce's book, Living Beyond

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:46 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Earth's Bounty.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Which colloidal silver are you using ?

We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially.

From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hey & A - I tested positive for Bart, as well. I've tried most meds - I

am allergic to sulfa based abx so my choices are somewhat limited. I did do

Rifampin - it made me feel awful....joint pain everywhere and so incredibly

tired. However, now I know I was probably going through a severe herx phase. I

may go back on it. Flagyl works almost immediately for me but it is a hard med

to stay on long term. I develop terrible yeast infections on this med (too much

information for some but it's the truth). That being said, with Flagyl and old

school penicillin my brain fog has definitely lifted and the strange swelling in

various places (under eyes, knee caps, etc.) has greatly reduced. I still have

skin issues from time to time and of course my scalp and hair continue to be

problematic. I did do praz. and did not have any results. I stayed on it about

a month - perhaps not enough time. I've gone back to a weekly dose of

ivermectin for now. Anyhow, just thought I would share my experience.

I had my eyebrows waxed yesterday (now explain to me why the hair on my head is

nearly gone but my eyebrows grow like weeds - wish it were the other way

around). The gal who did my waxing has Lyme and Bart - she showed me her legs -

they were covered in red bumps - I mean covered. I felt so sad for her and for

everyone in general. There is no reason someone should have to fight so hard to

be recognized by the medical community when the signs are so obvious. I'll get

off my soap box now .

Hugs to all!

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> > got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one

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Joyce is really good! Thanks .Sent from my iPodOn Sep 8, 2011, at 7:34 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Here is something from Joyce Meyer that is helping me right now -

God's Word vs. Your Feelingsby Joyce Meyer

Every day, we are faced with a decision: Will we respond to life's circumstances according to God's Word or will we react emotionally? The initial temptation is to react emotionally, but in every circumstance, it's truly your decision.

Let's examine three circumstances you're going to have to face at some point in your life. I've also included some questions to ask yourself, which I encourage you to answer honestly. They will give you a good idea of how big a part your feelings play in these circumstances.

Circumstance #1: Change Everything changes except God, and letting all the changes in our lives upset us won't keep them from occurring. People change, circumstances change, our bodies change, our desires and passions change.

Most changes take place without our permission. But we can choose to adapt. Adapting doesn't change the circumstances, but it does keep you living in peace and joy as you go through change.

First Things First

Our thoughts are the first thing we need to deal with during change because thoughts directly affect emotions. When circumstances change, make the transition mentally, and your emotions will be a lot easier to manage. If something changes that you are not ready for and did not choose, you will more than likely have a variety of emotions about it.

The Power of God's Word

“Emotions rise up and then move out, wanting us to follow them. When I feel that, I know I need to take action.â€

By acting on God's Word and not merely reacting to the situation, you'll be able to manage your emotions instead of allowing them to manage you. I strongly recommend confessing the Word of God out loud. Even though what you confess may be the opposite of how you feel, keep doing it. God's Word has inherent power to change our feelings, bring comfort to us, and quiet our distraught emotions.

Ask Yourself

How do I respond to change?

Do I act on God's Word or merely react to the situation?

After the initial shock, am I willing to make a transition mentally and emotionally?

Circumstance #2: Waiting

If you have not developed patience, then having to wait may bring out the worst in you. At least that was the case with me until I finally realized my emotional reactions were not making things go any faster.

We would all like to be patient, but we don't want to develop patience because that means behaving well while we are not getting what we want. And that's hard!

The Road to Peacefulness

The more we want something, the more our emotions will act up if we do not get it. Common sense tells us it is rather foolish to get into a rage over a parking space or other simple things people tend to get upset about. As you develop patience, don't merely think about how hard and frustrating it is, think about how peaceful you will be when waiting never bothers you (see 1:4).

Ask Yourself

How do I behave when I have to wait?

What situations are difficult for me?

How do I act when I'm working with someone who is really slow?

How do I act if someone takes the parking space I've been waiting for?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how well do I handle myself when things don't go my way?

Circumstance #3: Difficult People

No one likes being around difficult people. I think there are a lot of people in the world like that today, largely because of the stressful lives most of them have. People are trying to do too much in too little time and have more responsibility than they can realistically handle.

When someone is rude to me, I can feel my emotions rise up and then move out, wanting me to follow them. That's when I know I need to take action. I have to remember that the person being rude probably has a lot of problems. She may not even realize how she sounds.

Working with the Holy Spirit

I certainly remember lots of times in my life when people asked me why I was being so harsh. I didn't realize that I was. I just had a lot going on and felt pressured, so the pressure came through in harsh voice tones. That didn't excuse my bad behavior, but it was the root of the problem.

I am very thankful I know the Word of God and have Him in my life to help and comfort me. But a lot of difficult people don't have that. I have had to work very hard with the Holy Spirit for the ability to act on God's Word when people are rude…instead of merely reacting with a behavior that matches or tops theirs.

Jesus teaches us how to respond to those who treat us well and those who do not (see Luke 6:32–35).

If you are in a situation that requires you to be with one of these hard-to-get-along-with people every day, I urge you to pray for them instead of reacting emotionally to them. Our prayers open a door for God to work through.

Ask Yourself

How do I react to people who are rude?

Do I respond in love as the Word says we should, or do I join them in their ungodly behavior?

Will I act on the Word of God and love them for His sake? Or will I react emotionally, perhaps acting worse than they act?

Have I ever let a rude person ruin my day?

Live Beyond Your Feelings

Feelings will come and go. We can't escape them, but when we choose to live by God's Word and not our feelings. Even when it doesn't feel right, we can live with an incredible peace and joy. I encourage you to go through the questions again and search God's Word in every circumstance you face. He will help you live beyond your feelings!

This article is taken from Joyce's book, Living Beyond

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:46 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Earth's Bounty.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Which colloidal silver are you using ?

We did find Nutrasilver helped us quite a bit initially.

From: " " <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:34:56 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I started taking colloidal silver yesterday. I wish I could get rid of the mites in the bottom of my feet I picked up last week. It feels like pads on the bottom of my feet around my toes, more on the right where I was using my foot pedal for 2 days wearing infected flip flops I guess.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Aandraya <aandraya@...> wrote:

I don't believe throwing away everything is the answer. I had a bad infestation, treat the infections and this stuff won't be attracted to you and be growing on you. The average healthy person isn't affected by these organisms, they don't become a chronic issue.

Aandraya

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:42 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I have already torn out the carpet myself, but have hardly thrown out anything in the kitchen. It is going to look really crazy throwing out all that stuff. Even some of my plates, bowls, etc. feel infected now. I'm sort of sad to part with everything...and I know if my mother is over during that time she will want to save some things. She is driving me around as my car is infected also. She doesn't think I'm crazy, but I don't know what she will think when she sees me throwing all my stuff away.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Hi whatstheuse2,

We kinda had to do that, although we stayed in our townhouse. We took 2 large loads of most of our belongings to the local dump and rented a U-Haul. My husband and I did as much packing as we could (most), but we had to hire someone to remove all the carpets. The bugs were crawling everywhere, but you couldn't see them. We called a company and disclosed everything to them and I mean everything, but they sent two poor fellows to do the work with no protection whatsoever. One fellow was jumping up and down with all the crawlies when he finished... literally! I often wonder if he got these too as a result of the work. We paid triple what one would normally pay for this service.

From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:14:38 AMSubject: Moving

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I think it could be, and I think it could be both, and there may be multiple things going on seeing that you had the mite problem. Usually when lesions don't heal and keep coming back there's something going on internally. The bleach thing, I did it, I was desparate like we all get. It does absorb into the skin and get in the bloodstream. And you're right, the skin issues eventually come back.AandrayaOn Sep 9, 2011, at 2:18 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi, Aandraya!Do you think it can be Bartonella even if the skinscrapings were tested as staph?The whole family could get some of it before, but now when the 8-year old takes the bleachbaths she is so much better and the rest of the family has no lesions/blisters.Would that be the case even with Bartonella?They say the bleachbaths is like going to the swimminghall - do you still think it is toxic? (It would be awful doing toxic things to my daughter)Thanks!CeciliaFrom: Aandraya

<aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:42 PMSubject: Re: Moving

I didn't throw everything away. A lo of my things were stored for a year, but many things I kept with me. When I treated the chronic infections whatever was in my environment and on me gradually went away. It took about a year. Now I have all my old things and no more infestation whatsoever. Of course I'm still treating Lyme and other chronic infections. Slow and steady. Cleaning and topical applications will only temporarily calm the situation. Aandraya On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:14 PM, whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm thinking about moving in with my parents. I could feel some mites over there this past summer, but not to the extent at my condo. I know some of you have said to throw out everything. What about jewelry? How do you get everything out? Find someone willing to pack it and throw it away? Thanks.