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Janice-

I'm trying the backwards sleeper tonight! We'll see how it goes. I was

worried about him being bothered by the feet being twisted, but he might accept

it. He has a real thing, OCD like, about things being different and feeling

different, but I'm so tired of cleaning him up each night lately after he takes

his sleeper off and proceeds to " paint with poop! "

My son's temperature always runs low, he feels warm to the touch, except for

his hands sometimes. He gets the amount of water that the doctor says to give

him (he is completely g-tube fed) and his urine output is good and the smell is

not strong nor is the color too bright...He gets 42.25 oz. of formula a day and

20 oz. of free water a day ( he is about 60 lbs.) so I don't think he is

dehydrated.

Sensitivity to touch is also a manifestation of autism, and he has been

sensitive to touch since he was born. I used to think it was because everytime

someone took his hand they shoved a needle into it (2 open heart surgeries,

trach and vent, diapragm plication, coarctation repair, etc.) but now I think

that his hypersensitivity is also part of his autism.

I am glad your son outgrew his feeding problems. To be honest, I envy you.

But my son will not eat by mouth, except a little pudding or applesauce, once in

a great while...

I appreciate your information and support.

Hugs,

Donnell

janicen@... wrote:

Donnell,You should not have to do any sewing to turn the feet

backwards, unless you have a very very unusual brand of sleeper. Just twist the

feet forward as you put the sleeper on backwards. I've never had that not work.

Sleepers tend to be pretty soft and " flexible. " As for reworking the feet, if

you like to sew, you may be able to reinforce them. Sleepers worked great when

my son was young, but once he was up and walking, he wore the feet out too

easily. If your son always wants to take his sleeper off and won't sleep under

the covers, that could be a sign that he is dehydrated (and therefore feels

hot). My son used to love to sleep on the floor, because it was cooler than the

bed. To make sure your son better hydrated, you need to start early in the day

with the drinking and taper off toward evening. (Constantly needing to go to

urinate can keep you awake, so the urine needs to be through him by bedtime.)

The general rule is one ounce for each two pounds of

weight. 25 oz. for a 50 lb. child. If he is in school, you will have to be more

diligent, maybe a big glass of water when he gets up and another as soon as he

gets home. You could even try to get the school to give him a certain amount to

drink each day. You could try sending it with him and asking them to get it down

him. Sensitivity to touch can be a symptom of dehydration. He could be both warm

and not like the feel of having on a sleeper. That may be why he wants it off. I

struggled with these issues for years, since my son had feeding problems and I

had a hard time getting him to drink. After years of observation, I can say for

sure that dehydration was a major factor in many of his behaviors. I could see

the changes day to day, depending upon how much he was willing to drink.

Fortunately, he eventually outgrew his feeding problems and likes to drink

now.JaniceSorry everyone for leaving the whole post below. My computer is acting

really weird and won't allow me to

select it and erase!Re:

Posted by: " Donnell Kenworthy "

donnellkenworthy@...

donnellkenworthy

Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

Wellllllllllllllllllll He got the t-shirt and the sleeper off!! LIttle houdini

strikes again...

I will have to try another idea. The backwards sleeper idea sounds

good, but he would have to have the feet reworked with some sewing. And

he is independent on zipping his jammies up. Wish he understood that he

will get cold with them off. He just seems to try to wrap himself

around his pillow for warmth - never has used covers, though they are

there for him to use. I sometimes, after he is asleep, go in and put

him in the sleeping bag I use for his covers. He sometimes wakes up

with it still on, but ONLY if I've put him in it after he is asleep and

only if he sleeps soundly. Oh, well.... I'll have to try something

else.

We are potty training this vacation, so I have my hands full with other things.

Hugs,

Donnell

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Donnell, My son was food textured sensitive and it took a long

time to get him eating foods that were not pureed like mashed

potatoes.Don't give up just keep trying.We started with foods that

dissolve like cheetohs,Mike sells popcorn which is like a cheetohs

and not like popcorn.There are crackers that dissolve easier like a

Ritz cracker. was also tactile defensive and never liked anyone

working with his hands. I just kept touching his hands with warm

water, play dough, and he eventually outgrew the problem with hand

over hand.Now if he has a OT this person should be able to come up

with ideas to help this problem. is also OCD and he cannot stand

to spill or drop liquids or food on his clothes.OCD runs in my

family. has been a fecal smearer so I know about needing one

piece sleepers. I have used leotards, turn the sleeper inside out,put

shirts on over the sleepers so he could not get to the zipper.I found

expensive sleepers that are made for fecal smearers but they are

extremely expensive to the expense of $300.00 an outfit. Tie a knot

in your rope things will get better. The experts say the fecal

smearing is a sensation the kids like.But they can be trained not to

do this by replacing the bad behavior with a good one.Does he have an

OT? Cyndi B

>

> Janice-

>

> I'm trying the backwards sleeper tonight! We'll see how it

goes. I was worried about him being bothered by the feet being

twisted, but he might accept it. He has a real thing, OCD like,

about things being different and feeling different, but I'm so tired

of cleaning him up each night lately after he takes his sleeper off

and proceeds to " paint with poop! "

>

> My son's temperature always runs low, he feels warm to the touch,

except for his hands sometimes. He gets the amount of water that the

doctor says to give him (he is completely g-tube fed) and his urine

output is good and the smell is not strong nor is the color too

bright...He gets 42.25 oz. of formula a day and 20 oz. of free water

a day ( he is about 60 lbs.) so I don't think he is dehydrated.

>

> Sensitivity to touch is also a manifestation of autism, and he

has been sensitive to touch since he was born. I used to think it

was because everytime someone took his hand they shoved a needle into

it (2 open heart surgeries, trach and vent, diapragm plication,

coarctation repair, etc.) but now I think that his hypersensitivity

is also part of his autism.

>

> I am glad your son outgrew his feeding problems. To be honest, I

envy you. But my son will not eat by mouth, except a little pudding

or applesauce, once in a great while...

>

> I appreciate your information and support.

>

> Hugs,

> Donnell

>

> janicen@... wrote:

> Donnell,You should not have to do any sewing to turn the

feet backwards, unless you have a very very unusual brand of sleeper.

Just twist the feet forward as you put the sleeper on backwards. I've

never had that not work. Sleepers tend to be pretty soft

and " flexible. " As for reworking the feet, if you like to sew, you

may be able to reinforce them. Sleepers worked great when my son was

young, but once he was up and walking, he wore the feet out too

easily. If your son always wants to take his sleeper off and won't

sleep under the covers, that could be a sign that he is dehydrated

(and therefore feels hot). My son used to love to sleep on the floor,

because it was cooler than the bed. To make sure your son better

hydrated, you need to start early in the day with the drinking and

taper off toward evening. (Constantly needing to go to urinate can

keep you awake, so the urine needs to be through him by bedtime.) The

general rule is one ounce for each two pounds of

> weight. 25 oz. for a 50 lb. child. If he is in school, you will

have to be more diligent, maybe a big glass of water when he gets up

and another as soon as he gets home. You could even try to get the

school to give him a certain amount to drink each day. You could try

sending it with him and asking them to get it down him. Sensitivity

to touch can be a symptom of dehydration. He could be both warm and

not like the feel of having on a sleeper. That may be why he wants it

off. I struggled with these issues for years, since my son had

feeding problems and I had a hard time getting him to drink. After

years of observation, I can say for sure that dehydration was a major

factor in many of his behaviors. I could see the changes day to day,

depending upon how much he was willing to drink. Fortunately, he

eventually outgrew his feeding problems and likes to drink

now.JaniceSorry everyone for leaving the whole post below. My

computer is acting really weird and won't allow me to

> select it and erase!Re:

>

> Posted by: " Donnell Kenworthy "

> donnellkenworthy@...

>

>

> donnellkenworthy

>

>

>

> Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> Wellllllllllllllllllll He got the t-shirt and the sleeper off!!

LIttle houdini strikes again...

> I will have to try another idea. The backwards sleeper idea sounds

> good, but he would have to have the feet reworked with some sewing.

And

> he is independent on zipping his jammies up. Wish he understood

that he

> will get cold with them off. He just seems to try to wrap himself

> around his pillow for warmth - never has used covers, though they

are

> there for him to use. I sometimes, after he is asleep, go in and put

> him in the sleeping bag I use for his covers. He sometimes wakes up

> with it still on, but ONLY if I've put him in it after he is asleep

and

> only if he sleeps soundly. Oh, well.... I'll have to try something

> else.

>

> We are potty training this vacation, so I have my hands full with

other things.

>

> Hugs,

> Donnell

>

>

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Chocoalte pudding and hair gel were two of the items whith which we replaced

fecal smearing . The hair gel actually became a new OCD - but one that is

socially acceptable - styling hair is in!!!

> Donnell, My son was food textured sensitive and it took a long

> time to get him eating foods that were not pureed like mashed

> potatoes.Don't give up just keep trying.We started with foods that

> dissolve like cheetohs,Mike sells popcorn which is like a cheetohs

> and not like popcorn.There are crackers that dissolve easier like a

> Ritz cracker. was also tactile defensive and never liked anyone

> working with his hands. I just kept touching his hands with warm

> water, play dough, and he eventually outgrew the problem with hand

> over hand.Now if he has a OT this person should be able to come up

> with ideas to help this problem. is also OCD and he cannot stand

> to spill or drop liquids or food on his clothes.OCD runs in my

> family. has been a fecal smearer so I know about needing one

> piece sleepers. I have used leotards, turn the sleeper inside out,put

> shirts on over the sleepers so he could not get to the zipper.I found

> expensive sleepers that are made for fecal smearers but they are

> extremely expensive to the expense of $300.00 an outfit. Tie a knot

> in your rope things will get better. The experts say the fecal

> smearing is a sensation the kids like.But they can be trained not to

> do this by replacing the bad behavior with a good one.Does he have an

> OT? Cyndi B

> >

> > Janice-

> >

> > I'm trying the backwards sleeper tonight! We'll see how it

> goes. I was worried about him being bothered by the feet being

> twisted, but he might accept it. He has a real thing, OCD like,

> about things being different and feeling different, but I'm so tired

> of cleaning him up each night lately after he takes his sleeper off

> and proceeds to " paint with poop! "

> >

> > My son's temperature always runs low, he feels warm to the touch,

> except for his hands sometimes. He gets the amount of water that the

> doctor says to give him (he is completely g-tube fed) and his urine

> output is good and the smell is not strong nor is the color too

> bright...He gets 42.25 oz. of formula a day and 20 oz. of free water

> a day ( he is about 60 lbs.) so I don't think he is dehydrated.

> >

> > Sensitivity to touch is also a manifestation of autism, and he

> has been sensitive to touch since he was born. I used to think it

> was because everytime someone took his hand they shoved a needle into

> it (2 open heart surgeries, trach and vent, diapragm plication,

> coarctation repair, etc.) but now I think that his hypersensitivity

> is also part of his autism.

> >

> > I am glad your son outgrew his feeding problems. To be honest, I

> envy you. But my son will not eat by mouth, except a little pudding

> or applesauce, once in a great while...

> >

> > I appreciate your information and support.

> >

> > Hugs,

> > Donnell

> >

> > janicen@... wrote:

> > Donnell,You should not have to do any sewing to turn the

> feet backwards, unless you have a very very unusual brand of sleeper.

> Just twist the feet forward as you put the sleeper on backwards. I've

> never had that not work. Sleepers tend to be pretty soft

> and " flexible. " As for reworking the feet, if you like to sew, you

> may be able to reinforce them. Sleepers worked great when my son was

> young, but once he was up and walking, he wore the feet out too

> easily. If your son always wants to take his sleeper off and won't

> sleep under the covers, that could be a sign that he is dehydrated

> (and therefore feels hot). My son used to love to sleep on the floor,

> because it was cooler than the bed. To make sure your son better

> hydrated, you need to start early in the day with the drinking and

> taper off toward evening. (Constantly needing to go to urinate can

> keep you awake, so the urine needs to be through him by bedtime.) The

> general rule is one ounce for each two pounds of

> > weight. 25 oz. for a 50 lb. child. If he is in school, you will

> have to be more diligent, maybe a big glass of water when he gets up

> and another as soon as he gets home. You could even try to get the

> school to give him a certain amount to drink each day. You could try

> sending it with him and asking them to get it down him. Sensitivity

> to touch can be a symptom of dehydration. He could be both warm and

> not like the feel of having on a sleeper. That may be why he wants it

> off. I struggled with these issues for years, since my son had

> feeding problems and I had a hard time getting him to drink. After

> years of observation, I can say for sure that dehydration was a major

> factor in many of his behaviors. I could see the changes day to day,

> depending upon how much he was willing to drink. Fortunately, he

> eventually outgrew his feeding problems and likes to drink

> now.JaniceSorry everyone for leaving the whole post below. My

> computer is acting really weird and won't allow me to

> > select it and erase!Re:

> >

> > Posted by: " Donnell Kenworthy "

> > donnellkenworthy@...

> >

> >

> > donnellkenworthy

> >

> >

> >

> > Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

> >

> > Wellllllllllllllllllll He got the t-shirt and the sleeper off!!

> LIttle houdini strikes again...

> > I will have to try another idea. The backwards sleeper idea sounds

> > good, but he would have to have the feet reworked with some sewing.

> And

> > he is independent on zipping his jammies up. Wish he understood

> that he

> > will get cold with them off. He just seems to try to wrap himself

> > around his pillow for warmth - never has used covers, though they

> are

> > there for him to use. I sometimes, after he is asleep, go in and put

> > him in the sleeping bag I use for his covers. He sometimes wakes up

> > with it still on, but ONLY if I've put him in it after he is asleep

> and

> > only if he sleeps soundly. Oh, well.... I'll have to try something

> > else.

> >

> > We are potty training this vacation, so I have my hands full with

> other things.

> >

> > Hugs,

> > Donnell

> >

> >

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I found this website while reading an article that someone else

posted a link to. It's a jumpsuit thing to prevent the fecal

smearing that has been such a hot subject lately. My son used

to do this, but hasn't for a while. Thank God they outgrow some of

these things. We did not replace it with anything similar, but his

bm's are much more regular since he is on Miralax & has been for

years now. He doesn't have a bm every day, but at least every other

day.

Check out this link... http://www.jollyjumpwear.com/

Mahnke

mom to 15 DS, PDD-NOS

> > > Donnell,You should not have to do any sewing to turn the

> > feet backwards, unless you have a very very unusual brand of

sleeper.

> > Just twist the feet forward as you put the sleeper on backwards.

I've

> > never had that not work. Sleepers tend to be pretty soft

> > and " flexible. " As for reworking the feet, if you like to sew, you

> > may be able to reinforce them. Sleepers worked great when my son

was

> > young, but once he was up and walking, he wore the feet out too

> > easily. If your son always wants to take his sleeper off and won't

> > sleep under the covers, that could be a sign that he is dehydrated

> > (and therefore feels hot). My son used to love to sleep on the

floor,

> > because it was cooler than the bed. To make sure your son better

> > hydrated, you need to start early in the day with the drinking and

> > taper off toward evening. (Constantly needing to go to urinate can

> > keep you awake, so the urine needs to be through him by bedtime.)

The

> > general rule is one ounce for each two pounds of

> > > weight. 25 oz. for a 50 lb. child. If he is in school, you will

> > have to be more diligent, maybe a big glass of water when he gets

up

> > and another as soon as he gets home. You could even try to get the

> > school to give him a certain amount to drink each day. You could

try

> > sending it with him and asking them to get it down him.

Sensitivity

> > to touch can be a symptom of dehydration. He could be both warm

and

> > not like the feel of having on a sleeper. That may be why he

wants it

> > off. I struggled with these issues for years, since my son had

> > feeding problems and I had a hard time getting him to drink. After

> > years of observation, I can say for sure that dehydration was a

major

> > factor in many of his behaviors. I could see the changes day to

day,

> > depending upon how much he was willing to drink. Fortunately, he

> > eventually outgrew his feeding problems and likes to drink

> > now.JaniceSorry everyone for leaving the whole post below. My

> > computer is acting really weird and won't allow me to

> > > select it and erase!Re:

> > >

> > > Posted by: " Donnell Kenworthy "

> > > donnellkenworthy@

> > >

> > >

> > > donnellkenworthy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

> > >

> > > Wellllllllllllllllllll He got the t-shirt and the sleeper off!!

> > LIttle houdini strikes again...

> > > I will have to try another idea. The backwards sleeper idea

sounds

> > > good, but he would have to have the feet reworked with some

sewing.

> > And

> > > he is independent on zipping his jammies up. Wish he understood

> > that he

> > > will get cold with them off. He just seems to try to wrap

himself

> > > around his pillow for warmth - never has used covers, though

they

> > are

> > > there for him to use. I sometimes, after he is asleep, go in

and put

> > > him in the sleeping bag I use for his covers. He sometimes

wakes up

> > > with it still on, but ONLY if I've put him in it after he is

asleep

> > and

> > > only if he sleeps soundly. Oh, well.... I'll have to try

something

> > > else.

> > >

> > > We are potty training this vacation, so I have my hands full

with

> > other things.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > > Donnell

> > >

> > >

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