Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thank you Irma, We live in Calgary, Alberta Canada. I have not attended a DAN conference yet as I am just looking into the biomed treatments. I am finding there are many paths to follow when it comes even to this form of treatment. For instance, the first doctor I found was not covered at all under our health care. Within the first few months of appointments and labs, the bill was going to be $10,000. The very next day I found another doctor whose visits are covered as well as some of the testing. Crazy! I have 2 books at the moment: Children with Starving Brains- Jaquelyn McCandless, Changing the Course of Autism- Jepson. Hopefully this is a good start. It sounds like a fair number of kids here are on some form of Biomedical treatment. I would be curious to know who follows the caisen and gluten free diet. I'm about ready to try anything to get the dirrhea under control. How many years has your son been receiving these forms of treatment? Thanks for the comments. Dana Re: biomedical treatments > > Hello, > > I am simply gathering information on biomedical treatment for kids with Down syndrome and Autism. We are considering this for our son who is 11. Do any of you treat your children with vitamins and minerals, injections, etc. If so have you noticed a difference? > > Dana Hi Dana, Due to my son's underlying medical issues when all general medical treatments failed and most doc's were unable to figure out what was going on with a batter of test, all would return normal. He suffered tremendously from recurrent infection on a monthly basis. Even I was confused & worried big times if the medical team whom he was seen by were unable to find a treatment. What next? So the question my friends had always asked me was " What would you do to try to save your child? " , as I had to turn down alot of invitations because my son was always sick & thensome and they felt sorry for me and sad for my son as they would see how sick he was. Even the school nurse would call me alot and were surprise with the doctor's outcome of not detecting anything. I had begun just to eliminate certain food items and then finally found a wonderful Hematologist who detected that my son suffered from multiple food allergies/food intolerances, & CVID (Common Variable Immunodeficiency) . He was the closest to a DAN doc around where I live, does not claim to be but I actually found someone who was willing to run some test as I have been learning the ropes of attending numerous DAN conferences before taking this route. I did manage to find one doc whom claim to be a DAN, but it did more harm than good. So I enter with caution nowadays and try to work around several medical professionals who at least would not mind doing some test needed where our health insurance or my son's Medicaid would help pay for it as many revolve around money upfront. In April 2007 was the beginning of entering the Alternative Bio-med route. Which has helped my son tremendously. It is personalized according to his health needs. This is the place I take my son to and they accept our health insurance. http://www.mycarecl inics.com/ I was hesitant at first and just when I was about to quit this treatment, my son was once again showing awareness, so this was a biggie to observe this. I know what worked for my son, may not work for others. I have not taken my son these past months for his IV Chelation, Ozone & Pk treatments, due to regular check-ups which involved being sedated and I will soon return some time this month to begin the detoxification once again. Whereabouts do you live? Have you attended any DAN conferences? Read any books in regards to this road? Have you read the latest on the Autismlink? They had compiled most of the information- TACA is proud to announce our fabulous new DIET website to help families using dietary interventions. http://gfcf- diet.talkaboutcu ringautism. org/index. html Here is to 2008 for some Hope where we all learn for our individuals with unique challenging needs with whatever trials & errors treatmetns as we continue our path. Irma,19, DS/ASD ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dana, My son Jake will be 9 in april. We started him on risperdal this last March and in the past 6 months have been gluten free. He is already pretty dairy free except for the occasional milk product. Mostly he is on soy products. The changes this past 12 months have been many. He is much more focused, talks more, asks for help, can tell me what he wants or at least get me in he right direction and he has fewer outburst because he is getting more of his needs met. He still has down days and when he does get some gluten, it seems to affect him the following day. The diet has not been as hard as I thought it would be, just expensive. Our entire family had to change or I could not have done it. Our 10 year old daughter doesn't follow it outside of the house but my husband and I really try our best. My husband has noticed big differences in himself which is helpful because he can actually communicate things! Tonight Jake was not feeling very well. After dinner I went to put him to bed and he kept saying Ernie, Ernie. I asked him to go look for the Ernie he wanted. He couldn't find it. So, I take all of his Ernie's, This one? No...This one? NO. Then he goes towards his closet which has his sheets and all on a top shelf. I tries to climb up on a toy box. so I pick him up and he starts rummaging through his sheets. It finally dawns on me that he is looking for his Ernie pillowcase because I had changed his sheets. I found the pillowcase...he jumped up and down and said yes. He was happy and went right to sleep. He does love his Ernies! Holly Re: biomedical treatments > > Hello, > > I am simply gathering information on biomedical treatment for kids with Down syndrome and Autism. We are considering this for our son who is 11. Do any of you treat your children with vitamins and minerals, injections, etc. If so have you noticed a difference? > > Dana Hi Dana, Due to my son's underlying medical issues when all general medical treatments failed and most doc's were unable to figure out what was going on with a batter of test, all would return normal. He suffered tremendously from recurrent infection on a monthly basis. Even I was confused & worried big times if the medical team whom he was seen by were unable to find a treatment. What next? So the question my friends had always asked me was " What would you do to try to save your child? " , as I had to turn down alot of invitations because my son was always sick & thensome and they felt sorry for me and sad for my son as they would see how sick he was. Even the school nurse would call me alot and were surprise with the doctor's outcome of not detecting anything. I had begun just to eliminate certain food items and then finally found a wonderful Hematologist who detected that my son suffered from multiple food allergies/food intolerances, & CVID (Common Variable Immunodeficiency) . He was the closest to a DAN doc around where I live, does not claim to be but I actually found someone who was willing to run some test as I have been learning the ropes of attending numerous DAN conferences before taking this route. I did manage to find one doc whom claim to be a DAN, but it did more harm than good. So I enter with caution nowadays and try to work around several medical professionals who at least would not mind doing some test needed where our health insurance or my son's Medicaid would help pay for it as many revolve around money upfront. In April 2007 was the beginning of entering the Alternative Bio-med route. Which has helped my son tremendously. It is personalized according to his health needs. This is the place I take my son to and they accept our health insurance. http://www.mycarecl inics.com/ I was hesitant at first and just when I was about to quit this treatment, my son was once again showing awareness, so this was a biggie to observe this. I know what worked for my son, may not work for others. I have not taken my son these past months for his IV Chelation, Ozone & Pk treatments, due to regular check-ups which involved being sedated and I will soon return some time this month to begin the detoxification once again. Whereabouts do you live? Have you attended any DAN conferences? Read any books in regards to this road? Have you read the latest on the Autismlink? They had compiled most of the information- TACA is proud to announce our fabulous new DIET website to help families using dietary interventions. http://gfcf- diet.talkaboutcu ringautism. org/index. html Here is to 2008 for some Hope where we all learn for our individuals with unique challenging needs with whatever trials & errors treatmetns as we continue our path. Irma,19, DS/ASD __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Holly, Thats great Jake could communicate this to you. I feel so sorry for our kids sometimes as they know what they want, but can't communicate it. No wonder they get so frustrated at times. I am starting to stock the shelves and read up on the GFCF diet. I don't think it will be too bad. I'm a little worried about bread and bun though because loves his bread. He may protest if its not the real thing! Dana Re: biomedical treatments > > Hello, > > I am simply gathering information on biomedical treatment for kids with Down syndrome and Autism. We are considering this for our son who is 11. Do any of you treat your children with vitamins and minerals, injections, etc. If so have you noticed a difference? > > Dana Hi Dana, Due to my son's underlying medical issues when all general medical treatments failed and most doc's were unable to figure out what was going on with a batter of test, all would return normal. He suffered tremendously from recurrent infection on a monthly basis. Even I was confused & worried big times if the medical team whom he was seen by were unable to find a treatment. What next? So the question my friends had always asked me was " What would you do to try to save your child? " , as I had to turn down alot of invitations because my son was always sick & thensome and they felt sorry for me and sad for my son as they would see how sick he was. Even the school nurse would call me alot and were surprise with the doctor's outcome of not detecting anything. I had begun just to eliminate certain food items and then finally found a wonderful Hematologist who detected that my son suffered from multiple food allergies/food intolerances, & CVID (Common Variable Immunodeficiency) . He was the closest to a DAN doc around where I live, does not claim to be but I actually found someone who was willing to run some test as I have been learning the ropes of attending numerous DAN conferences before taking this route. I did manage to find one doc whom claim to be a DAN, but it did more harm than good. So I enter with caution nowadays and try to work around several medical professionals who at least would not mind doing some test needed where our health insurance or my son's Medicaid would help pay for it as many revolve around money upfront. In April 2007 was the beginning of entering the Alternative Bio-med route. Which has helped my son tremendously. It is personalized according to his health needs. This is the place I take my son to and they accept our health insurance. http://www.mycarecl inics.com/ I was hesitant at first and just when I was about to quit this treatment, my son was once again showing awareness, so this was a biggie to observe this. I know what worked for my son, may not work for others. I have not taken my son these past months for his IV Chelation, Ozone & Pk treatments, due to regular check-ups which involved being sedated and I will soon return some time this month to begin the detoxification once again. Whereabouts do you live? Have you attended any DAN conferences? Read any books in regards to this road? Have you read the latest on the Autismlink? They had compiled most of the information- TACA is proud to announce our fabulous new DIET website to help families using dietary interventions. http://gfcf- diet.talkaboutcu ringautism. org/index. html Here is to 2008 for some Hope where we all learn for our individuals with unique challenging needs with whatever trials & errors treatmetns as we continue our path. Irma,19, DS/ASD ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 <<would be curious to know who follows the caisen and gluten free diet. I'm about ready to try anything to get the dirrhea under control.>> Dana, we've been GF/CF for about 10 years, then on SCD ( pecanbread.com) for almost 5 I think. Have you had any testing done for celiac? As you know it's more common with DS kids and there are blood tests that can help determine whether it may be a problem. The reason I ask is that once you go GF you cannot have an endoscopy for celiac disease without being back on gluten for a few months. If he does have celiac it will also give you extra initiative to stay on the diet. Just a suggestion. Something to rule out at least as a cause for diahrrea. Of course the treatment would be a GF diet but it might help you to stick to it. I believe in the diet with or without celiac, more as a treatment for autism but that's just me (and a few others). Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Welcome to the group. I was at my wits end with the diarrhea too. The first blood test had skewed levels. The dr did another blood test, very expensive, to see if he had the genetic marker for celiac. He did not. The dr explained if you have the marker you could have celiac but if you do not have the marker you cannot have celiac and never can. I had played the elimination game to long so he had an endoscopy. The enzyme testing came back as lactose intolerant. We are strictly following the dairy free diet and life is without diarrhea, yeah. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD? gldcst wrote: <<would be curious to know who follows the caisen and gluten free diet. I'm about ready to try anything to get the dirrhea under control.>> Dana, we've been GF/CF for about 10 years, then on SCD ( pecanbread.com) for almost 5 I think. Have you had any testing done for celiac? As you know it's more common with DS kids and there are blood tests that can help determine whether it may be a problem. The reason I ask is that once you go GF you cannot have an endoscopy for celiac disease without being back on gluten for a few months. If he does have celiac it will also give you extra initiative to stay on the diet. Just a suggestion. Something to rule out at least as a cause for diahrrea. Of course the treatment would be a GF diet but it might help you to stick to it. I believe in the diet with or without celiac, more as a treatment for autism but that's just me (and a few others). Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dana, We started with finding chips (corn chips/ tortilla chips), yogurt (soy), and hotdogs (no nitrates, msg, and all natural). This gave him a few snacks that he liked and he could continue to eat " normal " things. Also, their are good donuts, and pizza dough which are frozen. I think they are all made by Kinickkinick. We use the Bob's Redmill gluten free baking mix in place of flour in all our recipes. So far, so good. Also, bob's Remill has good brownie mix, cake mix, and oats that are not rolled in flour. You can get catalogs for each of these and order directly. We have not done this yet but it will get done soon. I use white rice bread but it is a small loaf, it crumbles easy (this is common) and it tastes best if heated in microwave for a few seconds. The bagel were yucky but the biscuits are okay again, heated in the microwave. Just a few helpful things. Also we found several good cereals. Holly Re: biomedical treatments > > Hello, > > I am simply gathering information on biomedical treatment for kids with Down syndrome and Autism. We are considering this for our son who is 11. Do any of you treat your children with vitamins and minerals, injections, etc. If so have you noticed a difference? > > Dana Hi Dana, Due to my son's underlying medical issues when all general medical treatments failed and most doc's were unable to figure out what was going on with a batter of test, all would return normal. He suffered tremendously from recurrent infection on a monthly basis. Even I was confused & worried big times if the medical team whom he was seen by were unable to find a treatment. What next? So the question my friends had always asked me was " What would you do to try to save your child? " , as I had to turn down alot of invitations because my son was always sick & thensome and they felt sorry for me and sad for my son as they would see how sick he was. Even the school nurse would call me alot and were surprise with the doctor's outcome of not detecting anything. I had begun just to eliminate certain food items and then finally found a wonderful Hematologist who detected that my son suffered from multiple food allergies/food intolerances, & CVID (Common Variable Immunodeficiency) . He was the closest to a DAN doc around where I live, does not claim to be but I actually found someone who was willing to run some test as I have been learning the ropes of attending numerous DAN conferences before taking this route. I did manage to find one doc whom claim to be a DAN, but it did more harm than good. So I enter with caution nowadays and try to work around several medical professionals who at least would not mind doing some test needed where our health insurance or my son's Medicaid would help pay for it as many revolve around money upfront. In April 2007 was the beginning of entering the Alternative Bio-med route. Which has helped my son tremendously. It is personalized according to his health needs. This is the place I take my son to and they accept our health insurance. http://www.mycarecl inics.com/ I was hesitant at first and just when I was about to quit this treatment, my son was once again showing awareness, so this was a biggie to observe this. I know what worked for my son, may not work for others. I have not taken my son these past months for his IV Chelation, Ozone & Pk treatments, due to regular check-ups which involved being sedated and I will soon return some time this month to begin the detoxification once again. Whereabouts do you live? Have you attended any DAN conferences? Read any books in regards to this road? Have you read the latest on the Autismlink? They had compiled most of the information- TACA is proud to announce our fabulous new DIET website to help families using dietary interventions. http://gfcf- diet.talkaboutcu ringautism. org/index. html Here is to 2008 for some Hope where we all learn for our individuals with unique challenging needs with whatever trials & errors treatmetns as we continue our path. Irma,19, DS/ASD ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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