Re: Boys to Men/Sara

January 10, 2008

Hi Sara,

I always pictured Elie to be fair. I expect that Zeb will have to shave everyday

by next year.He tolerates that small shaver but not for long. He is so jumpy

when I am near his face or head that I am actually afraid to try a real razor.

He can use the electric shaver himself. I never heard of men shaving their backs

so much for living outside of my bubble. He sweats but never smells. He always

looks unkept regardless of how he dresses. I took him to the dr on Tuesday. He

fell in the driveway on the way to the school bus and hurt his back. We haven't

been for at least six months. Zeb lost 22 lbs. I am thrilled.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

Sara Cohen wrote: Elie is

extremely dark and hairy like an Arab - because he is an Arab!!

(Geographically) HE is Kurdish and

Yemenite and has VERY dark hair, lots of it - covers him from head to foot!

He probably should shave every day, BUT since he will only alow shaving in

the bath and he bathes avrery other day, that's when he shaves as well.

Interesting that he rarely sweats and has no body odor. No deodorant or

body spray or powder. Also, he soaks clean in a bath of bubbly non-soap.

HE can't stand washclothes or nylon scrungies. I do shampoo him - again, he

would not touch his hair to wash. We use coal tar shampoo - great odor- for

his psoriasis which ended the dandruff problem immediately.

(non-prescription OTC) . And I shave him with a gillette sensor 3 blade

which lasts about 25-30 times. HE will not use an electric razor, a battery

razor - guess the vibration bothers him. we do not shave his bakc - altho I

know some people do that, I actually like his body hair. Reminds me of

Esau.

> a, Zeb has dark hair and he does shave but daily is not necessary

> yet. He can shave himself but has to be reminded when there is a need. I

> gave him my older electric shaver that is small and easy to handle with his

> motor delays. I have no complaints with his hygiene. He does okay despite

> the sensory issues.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> sewshawna@... <sewshawna%40aol.com> wrote: that's great!! nicholas is

> doing better, they take their showers every other

> night, take turns in other words. He is finally understanding that as a

> teenager he stinks! lol and wears his deoderant and body spray and even

> combs

> his head of bushy hair in the morning, (even wetting it down). He is in

> denial

> of shaving though, lol, shaves every other night before his bath,

> and

> mostly just gets chin stuble and due to blond hair harder to see, but

> nicholas has dark brown hair and eyes and has a mustache and insists he

> doesnt, lol,

> jeesh teenagers, at least with nathan he doesn't question our motives to

> do

> things, may be a little refusal at something new but just needs to learn

> how

> to do them and then is fine. shawna

>

> In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:34:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> charlyne1121@... <charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net> writes:

>

> He has done everything I have asked.

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

January 11, 2008

Sara, that is great that Elie will walk on the treadmill. We had a treadmill for

a few years. Zeb and I both hate it, boring. It does everything other than talk.

My dh bought it and used it twice. The first time he used it Zeb was watching

and pushed the fast button on him. He almost fell. It's not funny but I am

still getting a chuckle when I think about it. Zeb has occasionally used it

since but it's just not a favorite without tv or something to do other than

watched your track screen. Zeb has changed his diet with the lactose issue and

is eating more fruit. He also will pile wood with my dh. It's a very hard work.

Zeb has been able to stack a cord at one time without constant direction. I

think with the weight loss he has more stamina and energy. I am hoping he will

lose another 20 lbs. He is still fat. Zeb's back is hairy too. I think I will

just make sure he keeps his shirt on and forgo the shaving.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

Sara Cohen wrote: What an

accomplishment that Zeb has lost so much weight. Elie got a

treadmill for Chanukah and now walks for 20-30 minutes a day. Not as much

as he did for the therapist, nor as fast as she had him walking, but at

least it is something everyday.

I have been told that men as hairy as Elie usually shave their back! My dad

was also very hairy on his back (even after he was bald on his head), but he

never did.

> Hi Sara,

> I always pictured Elie to be fair. I expect that Zeb will have to shave

> everyday by next year.He tolerates that small shaver but not for long. He

> is so jumpy when I am near his face or head that I am actually afraid to try

> a real razor. He can use the electric shaver himself. I never heard of men

> shaving their backs so much for living outside of my bubble. He sweats but

> never smells. He always looks unkept regardless of how he dresses. I took

> him to the dr on Tuesday. He fell in the driveway on the way to the school

> bus and hurt his back. We haven't been for at least six months. Zeb lost 22

> lbs. I am thrilled.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> Sara Cohen <pastmidvale@... <pastmidvale%40gmail.com>> wrote: Elie

> is extremely dark and hairy like an Arab - because he is an Arab!!

> (Geographically) HE is Kurdish and

> Yemenite and has VERY dark hair, lots of it - covers him from head to

> foot!

> He probably should shave every day, BUT since he will only alow shaving in

> the bath and he bathes avrery other day, that's when he shaves as well.

> Interesting that he rarely sweats and has no body odor. No deodorant or

> body spray or powder. Also, he soaks clean in a bath of bubbly non-soap.

> HE can't stand washclothes or nylon scrungies. I do shampoo him - again,

> he

> would not touch his hair to wash. We use coal tar shampoo - great odor-

> for

> his psoriasis which ended the dandruff problem immediately.

> (non-prescription OTC) . And I shave him with a gillette sensor 3 blade

> which lasts about 25-30 times. HE will not use an electric razor, a

> battery

> razor - guess the vibration bothers him. we do not shave his bakc - altho

> I

> know some people do that, I actually like his body hair. Reminds me of

> Esau.

>

> On Jan 10, 2008 3:08 PM, charlyne olko

<charlyne1121@...<charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > a, Zeb has dark hair and he does shave but daily is not necessary

> > yet. He can shave himself but has to be reminded when there is a need. I

> > gave him my older electric shaver that is small and easy to handle with

> his

> > motor delays. I have no complaints with his hygiene. He does okay

> despite

> > the sensory issues.

> > Charlyne

> > Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

> >

> > sewshawna@... <sewshawna%40aol.com> <sewshawna%40aol.com> wrote:

> that's great!! nicholas is

> > doing better, they take their showers every other

> > night, take turns in other words. He is finally understanding that as a

> > teenager he stinks! lol and wears his deoderant and body spray and even

> > combs

> > his head of bushy hair in the morning, (even wetting it down). He is in

> > denial

> > of shaving though, lol, shaves every other night before his bath,

> > and

> > mostly just gets chin stuble and due to blond hair harder to see, but

> > nicholas has dark brown hair and eyes and has a mustache and insists he

> > doesnt, lol,

> > jeesh teenagers, at least with nathan he doesn't question our motives to

> > do

> > things, may be a little refusal at something new but just needs to learn

> > how

> > to do them and then is fine. shawna

> >

> > In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:34:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> > charlyne1121@...

<charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net><charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net> writes:

> >

> > He has done everything I have asked.

> >

> > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> >

January 11, 2008

Our deal with Elie is part of his whole week of star days carried over from

h/s. With a week of star days, Friday nite is ELie night - we go out to eat

and either shopping or to a movie. Thus the treadmill - when he comes home

from his day center, he walks on the treadmill. He could watch tv, a movie

but he doesn't need that. HE will walk about 20 minutes with nothing but

the flashing screen which says how long he has walked, calories burned,

mph. He just walks.

I am trying to get into it, but even with a movie on, after 10 minutes or

so, I am sooooo bored I cannot stand it. But we all are trying to lose

weight.

As to the hairy back, I think it is cool. I see no need to cover it up or

change it., No wonder he is never cold - he carries his own pelt!

> Sara, that is great that Elie will walk on the treadmill. We had a

> treadmill for a few years. Zeb and I both hate it, boring. It does

> everything other than talk. My dh bought it and used it twice. The first

> time he used it Zeb was watching and pushed the fast button on him. He

> almost fell. It's not funny but I am still getting a chuckle when I think

> about it. Zeb has occasionally used it since but it's just not a favorite

> without tv or something to do other than watched your track screen. Zeb has

> changed his diet with the lactose issue and is eating more fruit. He also

> will pile wood with my dh. It's a very hard work. Zeb has been able to stack

> a cord at one time without constant direction. I think with the weight loss

> he has more stamina and energy. I am hoping he will lose another 20 lbs. He

> is still fat. Zeb's back is hairy too. I think I will just make sure he

> keeps his shirt on and forgo the shaving.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

>

> Sara Cohen <pastmidvale@... <pastmidvale%40gmail.com>> wrote: What

> an accomplishment that Zeb has lost so much weight. Elie got a

> treadmill for Chanukah and now walks for 20-30 minutes a day. Not as much

> as he did for the therapist, nor as fast as she had him walking, but at

> least it is something everyday.

>

> I have been told that men as hairy as Elie usually shave their back! My

> dad

> was also very hairy on his back (even after he was bald on his head), but

> he

> never did.

>

> On Jan 11, 2008 1:05 AM, charlyne olko

<charlyne1121@...<charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Sara,

> > I always pictured Elie to be fair. I expect that Zeb will have to shave

> > everyday by next year.He tolerates that small shaver but not for long.

> He

> > is so jumpy when I am near his face or head that I am actually afraid to

> try

> > a real razor. He can use the electric shaver himself. I never heard of

> men

> > shaving their backs so much for living outside of my bubble. He sweats

> but

> > never smells. He always looks unkept regardless of how he dresses. I

> took

> > him to the dr on Tuesday. He fell in the driveway on the way to the

> school

> > bus and hurt his back. We haven't been for at least six months. Zeb lost

> 22

> > lbs. I am thrilled.

> > Charlyne

> > Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

> >

> > Sara Cohen <pastmidvale@...

<pastmidvale%40gmail.com><pastmidvale%40gmail.com>> wrote: Elie

> > is extremely dark and hairy like an Arab - because he is an Arab!!

> > (Geographically) HE is Kurdish and

> > Yemenite and has VERY dark hair, lots of it - covers him from head to

> > foot!

> > He probably should shave every day, BUT since he will only alow shaving

> in

> > the bath and he bathes avrery other day, that's when he shaves as well.

> > Interesting that he rarely sweats and has no body odor. No deodorant or

> > body spray or powder. Also, he soaks clean in a bath of bubbly non-soap.

> > HE can't stand washclothes or nylon scrungies. I do shampoo him - again,

> > he

> > would not touch his hair to wash. We use coal tar shampoo - great odor-

> > for

> > his psoriasis which ended the dandruff problem immediately.

> > (non-prescription OTC) . And I shave him with a gillette sensor 3 blade

> > which lasts about 25-30 times. HE will not use an electric razor, a

> > battery

> > razor - guess the vibration bothers him. we do not shave his bakc -

> altho

> > I

> > know some people do that, I actually like his body hair. Reminds me of

> > Esau.

> >

> > On Jan 10, 2008 3:08 PM, charlyne olko

<charlyne1121@...<charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net>

> <charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > a, Zeb has dark hair and he does shave but daily is not necessary

> > > yet. He can shave himself but has to be reminded when there is a need.

> I

> > > gave him my older electric shaver that is small and easy to handle

> with

> > his

> > > motor delays. I have no complaints with his hygiene. He does okay

> > despite

> > > the sensory issues.

> > > Charlyne

> > > Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

> > >

> > > sewshawna@... <sewshawna%40aol.com> <sewshawna%40aol.com>

> <sewshawna%40aol.com> wrote:

> > that's great!! nicholas is

> > > doing better, they take their showers every other

> > > night, take turns in other words. He is finally understanding that as

> a

> > > teenager he stinks! lol and wears his deoderant and body spray and

> even

> > > combs

> > > his head of bushy hair in the morning, (even wetting it down). He is

> in

> > > denial

> > > of shaving though, lol, shaves every other night before his

> bath,

> > > and

> > > mostly just gets chin stuble and due to blond hair harder to see, but

> > > nicholas has dark brown hair and eyes and has a mustache and insists

> he

> > > doesnt, lol,

> > > jeesh teenagers, at least with nathan he doesn't question our motives

> to

> > > do

> > > things, may be a little refusal at something new but just needs to

> learn

> > > how

> > > to do them and then is fine. shawna

> > >

> > > In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:34:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> > > charlyne1121@...

<charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net><charlyne1121%40sbcglobal.net><charlyne1121%40sbcg\

lobal.net> writes:

> > >

> > > He has done everything I have asked.

> > >

> > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> > >

January 11, 2008

Hi Sara,

I think walking the treadmill for a specific amount of time and a reward may be

something I may use for Zeb. It's worth a try. My luck he will want to get

paid.

I try to have Zeb keep a shirt on if people are here. He doesn't look so hot

with the gut hanging and the hairy back.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 15 DS/OCD/ASD?

Sara Cohen wrote: Our deal

with Elie is part of his whole week of star days carried over from