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Well, Gupta got one thing right. There are opportunistic retroviruses

involved - mainly because our immune systems are compromised. The

retroviruses are secondary, though. In my system, they rise up less

frequently through the years. How he came up with the amygdala portion

of the brain, I don't know. I guess this part of the brain regulates

anger control, etc. Much more than the brain is involved. The Mayo Clinic

should have completed its study last summer, but no great news has

been forthcoming. It appears that the study has been scrapped.

The other program seems to have emerged at the same time the one from

the UK did.

Without top neurosurgeons behind me, I'd be very much afraid to change

any brain functions that our Creator superbly engineered. I believe in

His healing in His time. I believe that He will give us answers soon.

We need only ask.

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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JE> I don't read this listserve often, so pardon me if these topics have already

JE> been covered.

JE> Two programs that retrain the brain (amygdala or limbic system) to not

JE> over-react are being talked about on sites for people with chronic fatigue,

JE> fibromyalgia, chemical sensitivities, etc.

JE> Many people are reporting excellent results. The two programs:

JE> Gupta program (DVD program - $200, including shipping) for Chronic fatigue,

JE> fibromyalgia, etc.

JE> http://www.guptaprogramme.com/

JE> Gupta cured himself from CFS and created this program.

JE> While not developed for MCS, people with MCS are getting well using this

JE> program. Gupta sends info on how to adapt the program for MCS for those who

JE> wish it.

JE> Mayo is doing research on Gupta's program for CFS patients, so they must

JE> feel it's promising:

JE> http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01046370

JE> Annie Hopper's DNR (Dynamic Neural Retraining) program (3-day seminar -

JE> $900) for chemical sensitivities:

JE> http://www.dnrsystem.com/index.html

JE> Annie Hopper cured herself from MCS (multiple chemical sensitivities) and

JE> created this program.

JE> These people are not saying these illnesses are psychosomatic. What they are

JE> saying, I think, is that the brain starts to systematically over-react...

JE> and the brain can be retrained to not over-react.

JE> The Planet Thrive website has several people on it who are using the

JE> programs.

JE> E.

JE>

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The brain, including the amygdala, is an elastic, adaptive organ. Every day, it

is being " retrained " simply through learning, experiencing, and feeling. The

amygdala stores and retrieves emotional memories. Every time an emotional

experience occurs, neural networks are created along synapses, and these get lit

up like Christmas tree lights when that experience is recalled. So if an

experience is to overact to stimuli--because, for istance one has PTSD--then a

path is laid down to the amygdala that gets reinforced every time one

overreacts.

Neural retraining is just a fancy term for accessing these pathways to painful

emotion in order to process them into less painful/ distressing memories

experiences, thereby creating new neural networks, ones that bypass the

emotional center of the brain.

It's not messing with an organ like surgery. It's marshaling what the brain does

every single day. It's not unlike using flash cards to memorize.

I don't know anything about Gupta but the concept of brain retraining is nothing

new. It's cognitive psychology. It's what people do every time they do guided

imagery (relaxation) CDs or use prayer to ask for soothing. For you, prayer is a

means to talk to God. But at the same time, prayer does healing things to the

brain.

On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Patilla DaHun <glypella@...> wrote:

Well, Gupta got one thing right. There are opportunistic retroviruses

involved - mainly because our immune systems are compromised. The

retroviruses are secondary, though. In my system, they rise up less

frequently through the years. How he came up with the amygdala portion

of the brain, I don't know. I guess this part of the brain regulates

anger control, etc. Much more than the brain is involved. The Mayo Clinic

should have completed its study last summer, but no great news has

been forthcoming. It appears that the study has been scrapped.

The other program seems to have emerged at the same time the one from

the UK did.

Without top neurosurgeons behind me, I'd be very much afraid to change

any brain functions that our Creator superbly engineered. I believe in

His healing in His time. I believe that He will give us answers soon.

We need only ask.

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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I spoke to Annie Hooper because a friend of mine wanted to throw away $1600 on a

weekend seminar. She told me she did not know if it would work for mold, and if

you did not believe in it , it might not work. I only am willing to pay for

therapies that will work on my dog.

>

> I don't read this listserve often, so pardon me if these topics have already

> been covered.

>

> Two programs that retrain the brain (amygdala or limbic system) to not

> over-react are being talked about on sites for people with chronic fatigue,

> fibromyalgia, chemical sensitivities, etc.

> Many people are reporting excellent results. The two programs:

>

> Gupta program (DVD program - $200, including shipping) for Chronic fatigue,

> fibromyalgia, etc.

> http://www.guptaprogramme.com/

> Gupta cured himself from CFS and created this program.

> While not developed for MCS, people with MCS are getting well using this

> program. Gupta sends info on how to adapt the program for MCS for those who

> wish it.

>

> Mayo is doing research on Gupta's program for CFS patients, so they must

> feel it's promising:

> http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01046370

>

> Annie Hopper's DNR (Dynamic Neural Retraining) program (3-day seminar -

> $900) for chemical sensitivities:

> http://www.dnrsystem.com/index.html

> Annie Hopper cured herself from MCS (multiple chemical sensitivities) and

> created this program.

>

> These people are not saying these illnesses are psychosomatic. What they are

> saying, I think, is that the brain starts to systematically over-react...

> and the brain can be retrained to not over-react.

>

> The Planet Thrive website has several people on it who are using the

> programs.

> E.

>

>

>

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