allergy shots

[Guest guest]

Ian has hay fever and he never uses anything not eye drops or tablets , he is

the same he tends to eat well ,plenty of veg ,fruit, and pepers ect mixed in

with what ever he is eating and because of the people we have working here they

tend to do a lot of spicy foods to and i swear thats why Ian does so well ,I

have to say i used to get colds and since i have been eating the same as Ian i

haven't had any for a while either neither have the boy's .

Sonya

MsBYGthoughts@... wrote:

I just got my results back from my allergy test today. It says I'm allergic

to lots of stuff. Dust mites, grass, pollen, cats and dogs, trees, and a few

others. I've tried a lot of allergy meds and I didn't notice a difference w/

or w/o these meds. My mom is a health nut and DOES NOT take meds at all, it

all has to be natural herbs. When I told her the doctor wants to put me on

allergy shots, she flipped! She thinks allergies come from low imunity and that

I

need to cleanse my blood stream. She thinks it's a huge mistake to put meds

on top of an imune system that's already so low. In her opinion the solution

is to clean my blood stream and get more fruits and veggies in me to help

boost my imunity. How many of you have allergies? Does this make sense to you

guys?

Sincerely,

s, the Unique Princess.

[Guest guest]

Need a manufactorer and vaccine name.

> Does anyone know if allergy shots contain thimerisol? I posted

this

> earlier, but the post hasn't shown up.

> Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

I have had CFS for a long time. It would get worse, and not as bad all the

time.

A few months ago in error I tried immune suppressants, and got 100 times

worst.

But I could tell instantly what was getting me ill.

I went to an environmental Doctor and they did the same thing an allergist

did, except they tested it with a needle and went under the skin. (It did

not hurt)

The reactions where big. One eye almost closed it got so buffy.

But when we did a dilution of what just gave me a problem, & the problem

went away, within 10 minutes.

But for me after a while the dilution quits working.

At home I can make my own dilution for a few things and as long as I up it

very few days it works great. (I diluted filtered tap water all the way to a

full dose. and now filtered tap water is fine.)

I am trying to buy my own allergetnic extracts and do the dilution my self

but in the mean time another group called EPD say they found something

that works. Its similar to the dilution but they go after the strengthening

the antibodies.

http://www.dma.org/~rohrers/allergy/epd_faq.htm

The different letters after the Ig indicate which class of antibody (IgG,

IgA, IgM, IgE). All of these molecules have different functions in the

immune response,

Hope this helps,

Ron

Allergy Shots

I just wondered what role allergies play in this illness. Have any of you

gotten test for IGE allergies and been given allergy shots? If so, did it

help? Could this hurt a person with CFS? I have been tested (skin tested)

and reacted to a lot of molds, trees, animals that are around me all the

time. It isn't something that can be avoided...have any of you found this

beneficial?

thanks,

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Hello.

I have written one letter before, but without introducing myself.

I am a Norwegian woman, 40 years soon, most likely born with an enzyme

deficiency that has given me problems all my lkife. Half my family are light

autistic, have ADHD or reumatism. I most likely could not tolerate milk as a

child, but was given it all the time. I was very allergic to fish, this was

impossible to overlook.

My symptoms has been many from the autistic spectrum (unable to control voice

level happened to me this spring, for example), but mostly I am just plain tired

and have muscle pain. For two years now I ate green vegetables and meet only,

took a ton of supplements, and some things seem to improve (no pain). I think I

now am simply exhausted after pressuring myself for many years, + maybe some

bacterial infection.

Ten years ago I started doing EPD shots. I weighed very little, and reacted to

absolutely everything. With the shots i could eat again, and was fairly well for

a period, but symtoms slowly came back. I do believe however, that if I at that

point had known more, and if my doctor had known more, i could have eaten a

close to stoneage diet and been well today.

Some people think that you can build up your body with supplements and after

that you can tolerate more foods, but I believe this is true only for some.

Maybe I could have built up my body to tolerate more foods, but I would have had

to do it before I fell very ill, because at that point I could eat nearly

nothing. And if you are born with lack of certain enzymes, you can't really

replace them with supplemts. I also have mold allergy, and I have seen people

claim to get well by cleansing the liver etc. Certainly I believe that if your

physical condition generally improve, you can tolerate more.

I am pretty sure we have many different causes of our illness, and propably some

of us have undiagnosed allergies.

Tove

> fra: " Suzanne Crossley " <maycross@...>

> I just wondered what role allergies play in this illness. Have any of you

gotten test for IGE allergies and been given allergy shots? If so, did it help?

Could this hurt a person with CFS? I have been tested (skin tested) and reacted

to a lot of molds, trees, animals that are around me all the time. It isn't

something that can be avoided...have any of you found this beneficial?

>

> thanks,

> Suzanne

[Guest guest]

look into a bicom2000 practioner, www.regumed.com it does wounders

with allergies, if you find the right person they can remove

heavy metals, vaccines,yeast,parasites,chemicles, energy blockes,

focal infections, help some dental problems, it workes on all the

organs, the liver and kidnes are your main blood filters!

also read www.sensiblehealth.com

www.curezone.com

find the nov 2002 issue of townsend letters for dr. on the internet

read under DETOXX, it also tells how the bile ducts get pluged,

as does the liver.

h.clarks book cure for all dieases, the liver g/b needs to be detoxed to

help with allergies, as do the kidneys.

roger

tove.stenersen@... wrote:

>

> Hello.

> I have written one letter before, but without introducing myself.

> I am a Norwegian woman, 40 years soon, most likely born with an enzyme

deficiency that has given me problems all my lkife. Half my family are light

autistic, have ADHD or reumatism. I most likely could not tolerate milk as a

child, but was given it all the time. I was very allergic to fish, this was

impossible to overlook.

> My symptoms has been many from the autistic spectrum (unable to control voice

level happened to me this spring, for example), but mostly I am just plain tired

and have muscle pain. For two years now I ate green vegetables and meet only,

took a ton of supplements, and some things seem to improve (no pain). I think I

now am simply exhausted after pressuring myself for many years, + maybe some

bacterial infection.

>

> Ten years ago I started doing EPD shots. I weighed very little, and reacted to

absolutely everything. With the shots i could eat again, and was fairly well for

a period, but symtoms slowly came back. I do believe however, that if I at that

point had known more, and if my doctor had known more, i could have eaten a

close to stoneage diet and been well today.

>

> Some people think that you can build up your body with supplements and after

that you can tolerate more foods, but I believe this is true only for some.

Maybe I could have built up my body to tolerate more foods, but I would have had

to do it before I fell very ill, because at that point I could eat nearly

nothing. And if you are born with lack of certain enzymes, you can't really

replace them with supplemts. I also have mold allergy, and I have seen people

claim to get well by cleansing the liv

>

> I am pretty sure we have many different causes of our illness, and propably

some of us have undiagnosed allergies.

> Tove

> > fra: " Suzanne Crossley " <maycross@...>

> > I just wondered what role allergies play in this illness. Have any of you

gotten test for IGE allergies and been given allergy shots? If so, did it help?

Could this hurt a person with CFS? I have been tested (skin tested) and reacted

to a lot of molds, trees, animals that are around me all the time. It isn't

something that can be avoided...have any of you found this beneficial?

> >

> > thanks,

> > Suzanne

>

[Guest guest]

No, not all MDs are this pompous, but some are. Most of their patients are ignorant, so they assume all are. Find a doc less prone to stereotype (patient = moron), they are out there. I do the allergy shots, despite not being convinced that they do me any good.

Cheers,

Karl W.

allergy shots

I have been on allgery shots for about 18 mo, the first 9 were uneventful and the last 6 horrific. I would get a runny nose, itchy eyes, have a hard time breathing, feel awful, getting HIVES etc... I told my MD that and his response-- "the shots were making me better, I was just getting worse" For a point of reference, I have VERY minor allergies (only 2 things-- grass and molds, at a low level and did not even have any allergies til about 6 years ago). he convinced me to go on it to supposedly get rid of polyps and help asthma. I have had predinsone 2x's in 2 yrs (short courses), after my last dose, I stopped the shots (off shots now for 7 wks) and feel MUCH better. My polyps got worse since I went on allergy shots. MD of course said "I am surprised you are feeling better, but it has nothing to do with no shots and Dr Vaighn will tell you to go back on them"I am going to an ENT next week (thanks for the Winston Vaughn reference!)Are all MD's this pompous? I have an advanced degree and can read and he acts like I can not understand what is best for me. He even wrote in my MD records that he suspected Samters (never told me!!)Even more alarming--- my medical records are inaccurate-- he wrote that I told him stuff that is not true.Any thoughts on stopping the shots?Anyone get HIVES with this stuffPatty

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I tried the allergy shots years ago and had the same problem before I even

got to 25% of the " target concentration " . I stopped after 2 reactions and

have never tried them since.

Rob

allergy shots

I have been on allgery shots for about 18 mo, the first 9 were uneventful

and the last 6 horrific. I would get a runny nose, itchy eyes, have a hard

time breathing, feel awful, getting HIVES etc...

I told my MD that and his response-- " the shots were making me better, I was

just getting worse " For a point of reference, I have VERY minor allergies

(only 2 things-- grass and molds, at a low level and did not even have any

allergies til about 6 years ago).

he convinced me to go on it to supposedly get rid of polyps and help asthma.

I have had predinsone 2x's in 2 yrs (short courses), after my last dose, I

stopped the shots (off shots now for 7 wks) and feel MUCH better. My polyps

got worse since I went on allergy shots. MD of course said " I am surprised

you are feeling better, but it has nothing to do with no shots and Dr Vaighn

will tell you to go back on them "

I am going to an ENT next week (thanks for the Winston Vaughn

reference!)

Are all MD's this pompous? I have an advanced degree and can read and he

acts like I can not understand what is best for me. He even wrote in my MD

records that he suspected Samters (never told me!!) Even more alarming--- my

medical records are inaccurate-- he wrote that I told him stuff that is not

true.

Any thoughts on stopping the shots?

Anyone get HIVES with this stuff

Patty

[Guest guest]

Yes Patty,

I do get hives with this - especially when I'm fighting an infection (cold, or sinus/chest infection) and also when I took antihistamines, because I'm allergic to them. We've had this conversation a while back and a lot of people get hives with Samters, or as a reaction to the medication for Samters.

BeckyPatty & <pattyclerkin@...> wrote:

I have been on allgery shots for about 18 mo, the first 9 were uneventful and the last 6 horrific. I would get a runny nose, itchy eyes, have a hard time breathing, feel awful, getting HIVES etc... I told my MD that and his response-- "the shots were making me better, I was just getting worse" For a point of reference, I have VERY minor allergies (only 2 things-- grass and molds, at a low level and did not even have any allergies til about 6 years ago). he convinced me to go on it to supposedly get rid of polyps and help asthma. I have had predinsone 2x's in 2 yrs (short courses), after my last dose, I stopped the shots (off shots now for 7 wks) and feel MUCH better. My polyps got worse since I went on allergy shots. MD of course said "I am surprised you are feeling better, but

it has nothing to do with no shots and Dr Vaighn will tell you to go back on them"I am going to an ENT next week (thanks for the Winston Vaughn reference!)Are all MD's this pompous? I have an advanced degree and can read and he acts like I can not understand what is best for me. He even wrote in my MD records that he suspected Samters (never told me!!)Even more alarming--- my medical records are inaccurate-- he wrote that I told him stuff that is not true.Any thoughts on stopping the shots?Anyone get HIVES with this stuffPattySend instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

[Guest guest]

---HI Patty,

I also have tried allergy shots twice before. Each time I made it about

a third of the way to maintenance and then began having systemic

reactions (a " shock-like " feeling would come over me). I also felt

like my asthma got somewhat worse then its normally bad state. The

allergists both told me that I needed to continue to get an effect. I

was too scared and have stopped them. My current allergist agrees with

me that they arn't the right thing for now. - Dawn

[Guest guest]

My daughter regressed at 11/12 yr vaccines. She was allergic from the age of 3. She received weekly allergy shots twice a week from the ages of 6 through 10years. I remember one particular allergy shot where she totally flipped out after receiving the injection, literally climbing the walls and rolling on the floor. The nurse quickly gave her prednisone!

I am starting to think every time I took her to a mainstream doctor they harmed her.

Michele

]

rbnkmdl <DALE@...> wrote:

I ran into my allergy specialist from many years ago tonight, at my Rotary meeting. I asked him if he used any preservitives in thevacines that my three children and I received between 1969 and 1980. (two shots per week each, per person). He said he did not make hisown exactly. He bought the material and diluted it to the correct concentration for each patient. So I asked him what was in it.He saida name I was unfamiluar with and then, when I asked if it was the onlypreservative, he said some was preserved with Thimersol. He then went on to assure me that it would have been very diluted. But as each ten week period progressed, the vacine would become stronger.(less diluted). We took these shot, oldest ten years, the second oldest 81/2 years and the youngest and myself about 7 years. That's a lot. Mynext conern is how

much of this is still in our bodies, along with thenext assult from an unknow source, to be passed on to an unborngrandchild. I don't know if I am getting paranoid or reasonably careful. At presentI am considering everything suspect until we start gettingsome answers.dale__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Michele,

I am begining to think that we don't know what is in most of the

drugs out there. If they have been using thimersol for so long, it

must be in everything, like, even botox for instance. How many places

are we being exposted to toxic materials? These are places we assumed

were safely controled by our governing body. That is why we pay their

salaries, isn't it??

I hope that 's book causes a ground swell so large that even the

President cannot ignore it.

dale

> I ran into my allergy specialist from many years ago tonight, at my

> Rotary meeting. I asked him if he used any preservitives in the

> vacines that my three children and I received between 1969 and

1980.

> (two shots per week each, per person). He said he did not make his

> own

> exactly. He bought the material and diluted it to the correct

> concentration for each patient. So I asked him what was in it.He

said

> a

> name I was unfamiluar with and then, when I asked if it was the only

> preservative, he said some was preserved with Thimersol. He then

went

> on to assure me that it would have been very diluted. But as each

ten

> week period progressed, the vacine would become stronger.(less

> diluted). We took these shot, oldest ten years, the second oldest 8

> 1/2

> years and the youngest and myself about 7 years. That's a lot. My

> next

> conern is how much of this is still in our bodies, along with the

> next

> assult from an unknow source, to be passed on to an unborn

> grandchild.

> I don't know if I am getting paranoid or reasonably careful. At

> presentI am considering everything suspect until we start getting

> some

> answers.

> dale

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

At 07:32 AM 3/24/2006 -0000, you wrote:

>Can someone tell me if allergy shots have the same garbage (thermisol,

>etc) in them as vaccines? Do they work? I think my daughter has

>developed an allergy and I have a feeling the doctor is going offer

>the option of allergy shots. My husband says he had as a kid when he

>was allergic to " everything " although his mom was a bit of a

>hypochondriac so I dunno if he was or not because now he has no

>allergies at all so he thinks they are a miracle of modern medicine.

>I am a little leery of weekly injections to desensitize the immune

>system.

>

>Thanks!

>

>Lynette

>

Of course he will want you to do allergy shots

Yes, similar junk

And I would NEVER do it at all.

I'll send the info

How about seeing a homeopath? That's the answer.

Sheri

>>

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[Guest guest]

You SHOULD be leery, Lynette. Allergy shots are nothing but suppression which

more than likely will lead to your dd developing worse problems down the road.

I took allergy shots (and every allergy shot known to man) for nearly 25 years

(15 years of shots). I eventually developed asthma, a heart problem, IBS,

depression etc. I have no doubt that those problems stemmed from the years of

suppressive drugs I was on.

Since leaving conventional medicine behind and turning to homeopathy, I

haven't had any allergy meds or any allopathic drugs for that matter, in over 3

1/2 years! I used to not be able to make it for a single day without

antihistamines, steriods, decongestants, etc.

I highly recommend homeopathy for your dd. Anything else will just be a

bandaide approach. Homeopathy will get to the root of the matter and help get

her immune system to function in the way it was intended to.

All the best!

Kay

lysisdane <lysisdane@...> wrote:

Can someone tell me if allergy shots have the same garbage (thermisol,

etc) in them as vaccines? Do they work? I think my daughter has

developed an allergy and I have a feeling the doctor is going offer

the option of allergy shots. My husband says he had as a kid when he

was allergic to " everything " although his mom was a bit of a

hypochondriac so I dunno if he was or not because now he has no

allergies at all so he thinks they are a miracle of modern medicine.

I am a little leery of weekly injections to desensitize the immune

system.

Lynette

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[Guest guest]

Kay,

Can you explain to me how a homeopath helped your allergies?

OH

Re: Allergy shots

You SHOULD be leery, Lynette. Allergy shots are nothing but suppression

which more than likely will lead to your dd developing worse problems down

the road.

I took allergy shots (and every allergy shot known to man) for nearly 25

years (15 years of shots). I eventually developed asthma, a heart problem,

IBS, depression etc. I have no doubt that those problems stemmed from the

years of suppressive drugs I was on.

Since leaving conventional medicine behind and turning to homeopathy, I

haven't had any allergy meds or any allopathic drugs for that matter, in

over 3 1/2 years! I used to not be able to make it for a single day without

antihistamines, steriods, decongestants, etc.

I highly recommend homeopathy for your dd. Anything else will just be a

bandaide approach. Homeopathy will get to the root of the matter and help

get her immune system to function in the way it was intended to.

All the best!

Kay

lysisdane <lysisdane@...> wrote:

Can someone tell me if allergy shots have the same garbage (thermisol,

etc) in them as vaccines? Do they work? I think my daughter has

developed an allergy and I have a feeling the doctor is going offer

the option of allergy shots. My husband says he had as a kid when he

was allergic to " everything " although his mom was a bit of a

hypochondriac so I dunno if he was or not because now he has no

allergies at all so he thinks they are a miracle of modern medicine.

I am a little leery of weekly injections to desensitize the immune

system.

Lynette

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Homeopathy doesn't target a set of symptoms, a particular illness or disease.

It works by stimulating the body to heal itself.

Symptoms (in this case allergies) aren't the problem. The problem is a body

(vital force) that is out of balance. The symptoms are simply the messengers

letting us know there is a problem. If we " shoot the messenger " without getting

to the reason why they are there in the first place, symptoms often return with

a greater vengeance, maybe in another area of the body.

Depending on an individual's particular makeup, the imbalances in the body

will exhibit themselves in different ways. Some people's bodies express

problems through allergies, another may have migraines, another asthma, etc.

etc.

A homeopath does a very indepth consulation during the first visit. It may

take a couple of hours. They ask lots of questions and need to know, not only

what types of symptoms you're having, but also your personality traits, your

likes and dislikes, your behavior, medical history, family medical history,

history of suppressive medications, relationships, etc. It's very

comprehensive.

There are thousands of remedies that homeopaths have to chose from. The

answers to the questions will help guide the homeopath to find the one that

works best for your overall symptom picture. More likely than not, one person

with allergies won't have the same remedy as another person with them, even in

the same family. It's very individualized and takes the entire person into

account.

I hope that helps. There is an excellent book I recommend you read. It's

very straightforward and easy to follow. It's called, " Impossible Cure: The

Promise of Homeopathy " by Amy Lansky. Her son was cured of autism by

homeopathy. The book touches on that, but also gives a wonderful history of

homeopathy and explains in detail how it works.

All the best,

Kay

Rob and Reimund <jreimund@...> wrote:

Kay,

Can you explain to me how a homeopath helped your allergies?

OH

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[Guest guest]

Elyse allergy shots bypass and depress the immune system; try natural

antihistimines instead - there's a file on it but I don't have time

to find it.

==>Allergy tests are totally inaccurate and false - see the Allergy

Folder. Even the antibody theory is false - see Germ & Antibody

Theories are False Folder.

Bee

>

>

> To those of you that get allergy shots, how soon on this diet did

you notice you could reduce or eliminate your allergy shots?

Ragweed season is coming up which is always the worst time of year

for me and I'm trying to decide wether to get re-tested. I think my

serums are off and I haven't had testing for over a year, but I

don't know if

> I need to. I'd rather not if I don't have to, but my allergies

get really bad August, September and October. It's expensive and

it's pretty far and difficult for me to get to, just wondering if I

even need to.

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know where the file with natural antihistamines is? I

looked in the allergy folders and couldn't find it. Thanks,

Elyse

On 25-Jul-06, at 9:38 PM, Bee Wilder wrote:

> Elyse allergy shots bypass and depress the immune system; try natural

> antihistimines instead - there's a file on it but I don't have time

> to find it.

[Guest guest]

Dear Elyse,

The file isn't very extensive at the moment because I haven't had time

to research it; it is also someone's else's ideas; but it is the Anti-

Inflammatory File.

Do you have lung or excessive mucus production problems? Is it more

recent or do you have a long history?

Thanks, Bee

>

>

> Does anyone know where the file with natural antihistamines is? I

> looked in the allergy folders and couldn't find it. Thanks,

>

> Elyse

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> What's your position on allergy shots? They're not exactly a

vaccine, nor are they a medication. I searched for Allergy on your

site, and read all the articles that came up. None of them talk

specifically about immunotherapy.

==>Hi . I haven't studied immunotherapy, but I did give myself

candida antigen shots while I was curing my candida and I found they

helped me a lot - the antigen was devised by Dr. Orion Truss. The

antigen was made in my doctor's office so I knew it was pure. As I

progressed I needed weaker and weaker solutions until I didn't need

them any longer.

>

> I've been getting allergy shots for the last year. I get them once

a week. They are cumulative, so if I stop them, it'll put me back at

> ground zero.

>

> I know you say there are no allergies, but shellfish put me at risk

> for anaphylaxsis (3x in the emergency room in the last 10 years.

> Shellfish is so bad for me that walking past steaming shrimp is

enough to make me sick). I'm also allergic to apples, wheat, dairy,

> sunflower anhd corn. Along with a TON of environmental allergies

> (dust mites, cats, horses, dander, mold, etc, etc)

==>The reason you have such reactions is because your immune system

is very depressed. Shrimp is particularly bad because they usually

add sulphites to it as a preservative, which is a neurotoxin. It

recently came to my attention there are shrimp on the market that

contain " undeclared sulphites " . Apples, wheat, and corn all contain

mycotoxins (fungal-type toxins) so they are not considered

unadulterated foods, and almost all wheat and corn are genetically

modified. Also seeds like sunflower contain phytates that block

mineral absorption in the body along with enzymes that block protein

digestion so I do not consider them to be unadulterated foods either.

==>What I believe is wrong about allergies is when good unadulterated

foods are considered allergic. Firstly all the dilution of foods

used to do tests aren't pure from good unadulterated food samples,

i.e. certified organic, etc. like I recommend on this diet. Equating

test foods to foods on my diet is wrong. They do not use true free-

range " certified organic " eggs from chickens fed their natural diet

including green grass, worms, bugs, insects and meats. If they use

eggs from chickens that are fed soy everyone would react negatively

to them. The same would be true with samples from other animals fed

soy or treated with antibiotics, growth hormones, food laden with

pesticides, etc.

>

> I'm not using any allergy medications (Epi-Pen, Benadryl, asthma

> puffer) , but I always have them on me in case of emergency.

>

> Anyway, what do you think about this? I'm guessing you're probably

> against allergyshots, but it's a huge leap of faith for me to stop

> taking them.

==>I wouldn't suggest you stop allergy shots. This program will

build up your immune system so you will be able to have less, and

eventually you may be able to stop them.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>Hi . I haven't studied immunotherapy, but I did give

myself candida antigen shots while I was curing my candida and I found

they helped me a lot As I progressed I needed weaker and weaker

solutions until I didn't need them any longer.

Hmmm, this sounds slightly different from immunotherapy. Basically,

they inject me with a highly diluted serum of the antigens to which

i'm allergic. The amount of antigen gets INCREASED each time I go

(provided that the previous shot did not provoke an allergic reaction).

The idea is to get your body accustomed to the substance without

triggering a full-blown allergic reaction. The more exposure you get

to the substance, the more resistant it makes your body to it.

I have no idea how to verify the purity of what they're injecting me

with though. I don't even know exactly what it is. it's some sort of

antigen cocktail...not just a single substance.

Apples, wheat, and corn all contain

> mycotoxins (fungal-type toxins) so they are not considered

> unadulterated foods, and almost all wheat and corn are genetically

> modified. Also seeds like sunflower contain phytates

Yeah, I thought it was interesting that so much of what I'm allergic

to is not recommended on the Candida diet. I had cut all of that

stuff out of my diet last August, so it made it so much easier to

start the Candida diet -- I was half way there already!

> ==>I wouldn't suggest you stop allergy shots. This program will

> build up your immune system so you will be able to have less, and

> eventually you may be able to stop them.

I'm so excited to be healthy and strong again. Sometimes my die off

is horrible, but then I'll have a day where I feel WONDERFUL all day

long...practically elated...like sunshine breaking through the clouds.

I can't wait til those days outnumber the others.

Thanks so much for starting this community!!!

C.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > ==>Hi . I haven't studied immunotherapy, but I did give

> myself candida antigen shots while I was curing my candida and I

found they helped me a lot As I progressed I needed weaker and weaker

solutions until I didn't need them any longer.

>

> Hmmm, this sounds slightly different from immunotherapy. Basically,

> they inject me with a highly diluted serum of the antigens to which

> i'm allergic. The amount of antigen gets INCREASED each time I go

> (provided that the previous shot did not provoke an allergic

reaction).

==>Hi . That is exactly like the candida serum I had. It was

candida yeast strains that ere highly diluted serum antigens of yeast

which they said I was allergic to. I was highly reactive to yeasty,

fungi-type and moldy foods and substances, even leftovers. At first

the concentrations were increased and later as my immune system got

stronger they were decreased.

>

> The idea is to get your body accustomed to the substance without

> triggering a full-blown allergic reaction. The more exposure you

get to the substance, the more resistant it makes your body to it.

==>That follows the same idea I recommend where you start with small

amounts of something like coconut oil, garlic, eggs, i.e. anything

that was causing a reaction, and very gradually increase them so your

reactions aren't so severe. And as you increase the amount the

reactions are less and less.

>

> I have no idea how to verify the purity of what they're injecting me

> with though. I don't even know exactly what it is. it's some sort

of antigen cocktail...not just a single substance.

>

> Apples, wheat, and corn all contain mycotoxins (fungal-type toxins)

so they are not considered unadulterated foods, and almost all wheat

and corn are genetically modified. Also seeds like sunflower contain

phytates . . . etc.

>

> Yeah, I thought it was interesting that so much of what I'm allergic

> to is not recommended on the Candida diet. I had cut all of that

> stuff out of my diet last August, so it made it so much easier to

> start the Candida diet -- I was half way there already!

==>If you cut out all of those foods from your diet do you still need

to get allergy shots for them, or are they just giving you the shots

that helping you with dust, mold and other substances you said you

are allergic to?

>

> > ==>I wouldn't suggest you stop allergy shots. This program will

> > build up your immune system so you will be able to have less, and

> > eventually you may be able to stop them.

>

> I'm so excited to be healthy and strong again. Sometimes my die off

> is horrible, but then I'll have a day where I feel WONDERFUL all day

> long...practically elated...like sunshine breaking through the

clouds. I can't wait til those days outnumber the others. Thanks so

much for starting this community!!!

==> - you go girl!! You are welcome for this community! We

are so happy you are with us.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Sorry to rant, the main question is has anyone tried allergy shots?

>

***Hi J Mascis - Allergy shots " do not work " for food allergies. The

only solution for a food allergy is to avoid the suspect food.

Take care.

Bernie

[Guest guest]

Can you find a common possible offending element in the foods that you react

to? For example: I thought that fish, avocado oil (which would be concentrated

form of whatever is in avocdo, so you might get a stronger reaction than just

eating plain avocado) and tomatos were hi in glutamate? (I have a lot of food

allergies also, and find that many of the foods I react to, with racing heart,

increased insomnia, etc, have hi amounts of excitory aminos in them). Foods

that are hi in salicylates or amines might be causing your reaction also. Fish

also has DMAE in it, which is stimulating to the brain, I believe. (BTW, I

react to all Omega 3 with the symptoms you describe) Feel free to backchannel me

if you wish - Les

Allergy shots

Hi,

It's getting to the point where everything I eat is giving me such a

serious food allergy. It's really getting to the point where I would

rather die than carry on with this fucking shit. To feel as bad as I

do and to only feel worse and worse.

Has anyone tried getting those allergy shots they give people? What

causes food allergies? Just about everything I eat causes my heart to

just race for hours and hours. It used to be corn, and a few other

things. Today I drank a spoonful of avocado oil, because last week I

ate some avocados and thought they made me feel better, possibly

because of the omega-3's. I don't know if it's the same thing as

potatos and potato skins, which I can eat potatos if they've been

peeled, but if I eat the skin it gives a very stong reaction, so I

don't know if it's something in the skin of the avocado when they

squeeze the oil from it, but I ate a fish sandwich last night that

consisted of fresh haddock I believe, sauteed in olive oil, tomato

and bread, all of which I have eaten before, and it totally set off

my heart. It's getting to the point where I literally don't know what

to eat.

Sorry to rant, the main question is has anyone tried allergy shots?

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

> ==>Hi . That is exactly like the candida serum I had. It was

> candida yeast strains that ere highly diluted serum antigens of yeast

> which they said I was allergic to. I was highly reactive to yeasty,

> fungi-type and moldy foods and substances, even leftovers. At first

> the concentrations were increased and later as my immune system got

> stronger they were decreased.

>

Awesome. I feel much better about this then. I'll keep taking the

allergy shots.

> ==>If you cut out all of those foods from your diet do you still need

> to get allergy shots for them, or are they just giving you the shots

> that helping you with dust, mold and other substances you said you

> are allergic to?

That's a great question. I think the injections may just contain

environmental allergens. Their theory is that allergies are like a

balance scale. The more things you pile on, the more likely you are

to tip yourself into an allergic reaction, so if they can help with my

environmental stuff, it should help resolve the food stuff indirectly.

But...darnit...I'm gonna ask the next time I go in for a shot.

>

> ==> - you go girl!! You are welcome for this community! We

> are so happy you are with us.

*hug*

C

[Guest guest]

Allergy shots

It's getting to the point where I literally don't know what to eat.

Sorry to rant, the main question is has anyone tried allergy shots?

Hi,

I am alive today because of allergy shots. They are not a " cure " , nor do

they get rid of food or other allergies, for that matter, but they can allow

you to live with them more easily, and allow you to eat something,

especially when you react to almost everything, as I do.

However, traditional allergy shots don't work. Despite the fact that they

" test " you, the traditional allergy shot is only partially made up of your

unique allergens. It's still a standard base that is used, with your

offenders added, but to a standardized amount, not necessarily correlating

to the degree of severity to which you react to a particular offending

allergen. The traditional allergy shots are also preserved generally,

although some traditional allergists will now provide preservative free

extracts, but you always have to make sure, and often, they themselves don't

know. But the preservative most commonly used is phenol, which is deadly to

me, and affects a lot of PWC's also.

I see an Environmental Doctor for my allergy testing and extract. Of 80

something foods I was tested for, each one individually - it took over 5

weeks to get through the testing, but I'm a severe asthmatic, with severe

breathing reactions, besides those which you mention and others that most of

us never even notice as they are often delayed - I was non-reactive to maybe

11. Unfortunately, most of those 11 were of little nutritive value, or

belonged to the brassica family, e.g. broccoli, cauliflower..., which I

love, but I have a sulfite oxidase deficiency, and cannot eat these foods

because of that.

My extract, which I inject daily, is based solely on my tested allergens,

and in amounts per antigen that either relieve my symptoms or bring them

down to minimal levels. It is called the neutralization-provocation method,

and saved my life. There are certain foods to which I react so strongly,

that I cannot eat them regardless of any allergy shot, and due to the number

of foods that I do react to, even moderately strongly, I still have to

rotate even those foods that are included in my " shot " , but at least I can

eat now. It took a decade to gain back the weight I lost this last crash

out, so I take this pretty seriously. Done correctly, food allergy testing

and shots can make the difference between life and death when there is

nothing that you don't react to, and so they needn't be dismissed so

summararily as some might do, but it does take the proper methodolgy for

you, and commitment on your part to learn food families, cross reactivities,

and stick with the rotation that works best for you.

I don't know anything about the EPD method, or Nambudripad's method, as to

how well they work or don't work, so can't help you there. I just know that

when you reach a point where you react to nearly everything you eat, simply

avoiding the offending food is not enough. I've taken allergy shots on and

off my entire life, since I was at least 5 yrs old, (I'm in my late 40's),

both traditional and non-traditional, and there is a world of difference

between the two.

Donna in NC