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I've received a lot of benefit over the years from

NAET (www.naet.com) or NAET-like treatments for

allergies and sensitivities. I don't have a much

trouble with food sensitiviites, but as a result of my

treatments, pollen and chemical sensitivities

dramatically improved. I know a lot of people who

have cleared food sensitivities that way. Allergy

shots have not been very helpful for me. Another

thing to check out would be EFT, or other energetic

techniques for sensitivities.

> Allergy shots

>

>

> It's getting to the point where I literally don't

> know what to eat.

> Sorry to rant, the main question is has anyone

> tried allergy shots?

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My son had allergy testing at age 4 and then at age 7. In between

that time he had been chelating several times. At age 7 he had fewer

allergies. I don't know if the chelation really was the cause of

that, but I think it could have been because his body was becoming

healthier. I just had allergy testing done and was allergic to

several foods that I thought I was. I am also allergic to pollen to

several things and some animals. They didn't even ask me, but assumed

that I would want allergy shots and handed me a px for an Epi Pen. I

thought they gave me that because I am highly allergic to peanuts.

The doctor said , " no " She wanted me to have it for when they started

allergy shots for the pollen, ect, because you could go into

anaphalitic (sp?) shock. I told them I wasn't interested in allergy

shots. I am feeling better just staying away from the foods I am

allergic to. They don't like that answer because they can't make any

money off of me unless I do allergy shots. The foods they just tell

you to stay away from. I can breathe clearly and have less muscle pain

and stiff muscles so far. This doctor wouldn't acknowledge that food

allergies could cause muscle pain. Then she said, " Well, we just

don't deal with that. " I asked if there was thimerasol or any other

preservative in the shots. They acted like they really didn't know,

but they did say that they mix the stuff for the shots in their office

and they use it for anyone. It is not just mixed for one person. So,

it is kept for at least a little while. I don't trust the shots.

April

>

> My son is allergic to a lot of foods and to everything outside and

> inside. We are chelating. What do you think of allergy shots?

> Farhin

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Have you considered NAET? www.naet.com

S S

My son had allergy testing at age 4 and then at age 7. In between

that time he had been chelating several times. At age 7 he had fewer

allergies. I don't know if the chelation really was the cause of

that, but I think it could have been because his body was becoming

healthier. I just had allergy testing done and was allergic to

several foods that I thought I was. I am also allergic to pollen to

several things and some animals. They didn't even ask me, but assumed

that I would want allergy shots and handed me a px for an Epi Pen. I

thought they gave me that because I am highly allergic to peanuts.

The doctor said , " no " She wanted me to have it for when they started

allergy shots for the pollen, ect, because you could go into

anaphalitic (sp?) shock. I told them I wasn't interested in allergy

shots. I am feeling better just staying away from the foods I am

allergic to. They don't like that answer because they can't make any

money off of me unless I do allergy shots. The foods they just tell

you to stay away from. I can breathe clearly and have less muscle pain

and stiff muscles so far. This doctor wouldn't acknowledge that food

allergies could cause muscle pain. Then she said, " Well, we just

don't deal with that. " I asked if there was thimerasol or any other

preservative in the shots. They acted like they really didn't know,

but they did say that they mix the stuff for the shots in their office

and they use it for anyone. It is not just mixed for one person. So,

it is kept for at least a little while. I don't trust the shots.

April

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I looked at the NAET website and noticed the book " Say Goodbye to

Allergy Related Autism " . How do I know if my child's autism is

allergy related? Thanks, Vicki

>

> My son had allergy testing at age 4 and then at age 7.

In between

> that time he had been chelating several times. At age 7 he had

fewer

> allergies. I don't know if the chelation really was the cause of

> that, but I think it could have been because his body was becoming

> healthier. I just had allergy testing done and was allergic to

> several foods that I thought I was. I am also allergic to pollen to

> several things and some animals. They didn't even ask me, but

assumed

> that I would want allergy shots and handed me a px for an Epi Pen.

I

> thought they gave me that because I am highly allergic to peanuts.

> The doctor said , " no " She wanted me to have it for when they

started

> allergy shots for the pollen, ect, because you could go into

> anaphalitic (sp?) shock. I told them I wasn't interested in allergy

> shots. I am feeling better just staying away from the foods I am

> allergic to. They don't like that answer because they can't make

any

> money off of me unless I do allergy shots. The foods they just tell

> you to stay away from. I can breathe clearly and have less muscle

pain

> and stiff muscles so far. This doctor wouldn't acknowledge that

food

> allergies could cause muscle pain. Then she said, " Well, we just

> don't deal with that. " I asked if there was thimerasol or any other

> preservative in the shots. They acted like they really didn't know,

> but they did say that they mix the stuff for the shots in their

office

> and they use it for anyone. It is not just mixed for one person.

So,

> it is kept for at least a little while. I don't trust the shots.

> April

>

>

>

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Hi Vicki,

There are many factors which play a role in autism. Does your child have

allergies? Sometimes things like mercury induce allergies or the whole immune

system is compromised due to environmental insults. Sometimes dealing with

allergies allows the person to tolerate needed supplements.

S S

I looked at the NAET website and noticed the book " Say Goodbye to

Allergy Related Autism " . How do I know if my child's autism is

allergy related? Thanks, Vicki

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No, my child has no known environmental allergies but he is

sensitive to both gluten and casein (GFCF diet). He is diagnosed PDD-

NOS and has excreted a ton of lead thus far. Vicki

>

> I looked at the NAET website and noticed the book " Say

Goodbye to

> Allergy Related Autism " . How do I know if my child's autism is

> allergy related? Thanks, Vicki

>

>

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FYI, A source of your child's lead may be in potatoes. Just reading

fateful harvest. Since 1991 industrial waste has been renamed

" fertilizer " as long as it has some useful ingredients and is

documented in Washington. One of the farmers tested his potatoes and

it had a very high lead content due to his supplier " reformulating "

their " fertilizer " . Mcs etc gets 80% of their potatoes from

contaminated/unregulated regions.

I have been racking my brain trying to think where the heck would my

kids get so much lead in their system. It's in pretty much all

nonorganic food.

> >

> > I looked at the NAET website and noticed the book " Say

> Goodbye to

> > Allergy Related Autism " . How do I know if my child's autism is

> > allergy related? Thanks, Vicki

> >

> >

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At 12:49 PM 11/10/2009, you wrote:

>I have been following this list serve for a while and I have never

>read anything about preservatives in allergy shots. Someone brought

>this up to me today. After a quick google search I saw that some of

>these shots contain thimerosal. I was wondering if anyone knew this

>to be a fact, or had any other information on the preservatives

>contained in these shots. I am trying to do a little detective work

>to solve the issue of my failing health. I think this may be a piece

>to that puzzle.

>Looking forward to getting your responses :)

>

Yes, I have known of this - on my list shared this a few years

ago and I added to it:

Be careful about allergy testing.................

This is from the book ImmunoFacts Vaccines and Immunologic Drugs 2004

Solvent: Allergen extract may be manufactured in either aqueous or

glycerinated form. Lyophilized and glycerinated extracts are the most

stable forms. Stock containers of water-based allergen extracts

typically contain constituents of diluting fluid. Sodium chloride,

sodium bicarbonate, and are usually preserved with phenol.

Diluent: Dilute Aquinas extracts with a solution containing 0.03%

human serum albumin (HSA) as a protein stabilizer, 0.9% sodium

chloride for tonicity, and 0.4% phenol as an antimicrobial agent.

Extracts in a solution with 50% glycerin offer a higher degree of

protein preservation, but glycerin injections may cause local

irritation or sterile abscesses. Glycerin is often used in the

diluent for prick skin test dilutions, because its viscosity retard

the flow of 1 prick-test reagent int neighboring reagents. However,

glycerin may also increase the incidence of flase-positive skin-test

reactions, especially in the higher dose associated with ID

injections. Label all vials with concentration of their contents.

Suboptimal fluids for compounding dilutions of aqueous allergen

extracts include phenol-saline, 0.9% sodium chloride with 0.4%

phenol, phosphate-buffered saline, sodium chloride with 0.08% to

0.11% sodium phosphate, 0.036% to 0.04% potassium phosphate, and 0.4%

phenol, bicarbonate-saline. Coca's solution: 0.5% sodium chloride,

0.275% sodium bicarbonate 0.4% phenol, and various glycero-saline

solutions. 10% glycerin with 0.5% sodium chloride and 0.4% phenol,

25% glycerin with 0.5% sodium chloride, sodium phosphate, potassium

phosphate, and 0.4% phenol. Undiluted sterile parenteral glycerin,

with a glycerin content of 95% or more, is available from several

manufacturers.

Preservative: Usually 0..4% or 0.5% phenol; 0.01% thimerosal is used

if the allergen may darken or precipitate in the presence of phenol.

Extracts of privet pollen, mushroom, grain mill dust, white potato,

avocado. Food extracts of corn, barley, oat, rye and wheat.

Allergens: Allergens extracts are allergenic by definition and

intent. HSA, used in many diluents, does not sensitize recipients.

Excipients: Mannitol in some lyophilized products. Extracts may

contain varying amounts of sodium chloride, sodium bicarbonate,

sodium carbonate, calcium carbonate, sodium phosphate, potassium

phosphate, magnesium phosphate, potassium citrate, or glycerin.

Shelf Life: Products containing 50% or more glycerin expire within 36

montsh, less than 50% glycerin within 18 m,onths. Short-ragweek

extracts expire within 12 months. Lyophilized products expire within

30 to 48 months.

From an old post!

Someone on another list I'm on asked about immunotherapy treatment.

My son received these treatments six years ago, and I haven't thought

very much about it until this question. I decided to do a little

digging, and do not like what I found.

http://neuro-

www.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/CreutzfeldtJakobsF/Albumininallergyex tract.html

Albumin in allergy extract

This response submitted by Zambenini , RN on 2/7/98. Email

Address: lzambeni@i...

Ask any allergist what the " diluents " are. They are either a

combination of HSA (human serum albumin),normal saline, and phenol OR

glycerol, normal saline and phenol. The glycerol based solution is

almost always used for skin testing since it has higher viscosity and

thus tends not to " bleed " into adjacent test sites and obscure

results. From my experience working in an Immunization/Travel clinic

it seems most extracts are HSA based, not glycerol. Glycerol is not

used as often because it tends to cause more reactivity and sterile

abcesses especially at larger doses. All this info can be found in

the " Immunofacts " book which we have at our office -it is an

excellent resource book on vaccines and immunobiologicals. I can get

you the publisher and ISBN # if you want it. Also, patients who are

RAST tested for allergies (blood test) instead of skin tested have

their allergy extracts ordered from and produced by large

pharmaceutical companies who deal in immunobiologicals, rather than

having the allergist formulate them in the office. Bayer and Allermed

are a couple of the companies that come to mind. When we get these

vials of allergy extract to administer to a patient they come with

extensive package inserts (you practically need a microscope to read)

just like any other prescription drug. They all use different

formulations - some mix cat pelt allergen using the HSA mixture,

others use this for their dust mites etc... I have read this on the

ingredient list on the package inserts. HSA is used as a protein

stabilizer (as is glycerol) to extend shelf life. Without HSA or

glycerol (ie: just normal saline and phenol} the allergy extract is

only good a short time- I beleive just a few hours or days. Maybe you

could get a package insert from an allergist that employs RAST

testing, or from Bayer if you are interested. Allergy extract

formulated in the allergist's office almost never list the diluents

used - just the allergens (cat,dust, mold, ragweed, pollens,

cockroach,dog etc...).

I learned about allergy extract diluents accidently about 2 weeks ago

when I was flipping through our " Immunofacts " book looking for some

info about a vaccine. There was a single page dedicated to allergenic

diluents - I was quite surprised to learn that HSA was used. I always

thought they were formulated with saline or glycerol and phenol. I

also get allergy shots and contacted my allergist. Sure enough my

dust mites vial was diluted with the HSA diluent. I asked my

allergist to reformulate it and told him my concerns. He has agreed

to do this but made a point of saying it is FDA approved , which it

is. However, I choose to have control over what goes in my body till

more is known. I do not beleive non-essential products (like allergy

extracts) should contain HSA; till more is known these should be

reformulated , which is possible, to eliminate any risk.

http://www.greerlabs.com/47.aspx

WARNINGS Concentrated extracts must be diluted with a sterile diluent

(such as normal saline, buffered saline, saline with human serum

albumin, or saline with 10% glycerin) prior to use in a patient for

intradermal testing. Concentrates of Allergenic Extracts are

manufactured to assure high potency and have the ability to cause

serious local and systemic reactions including death in sensitive

patients. Most reactions occur within 20 minutes after injection, but

may occur later. To minimize the potential for local or systemic

reactions, the relative sensitivity of the patient must be assessed

from the allergic history and from clinical observations. Patients

should be informed of the possibility of these reactions and the

precautions should be discussed prior to testing

http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departments/allergy/CAEL/product.htm

1. Aqueous Extract Solutions Sterile aqueous stock solutions comprise

the vast majority of allergen extracts on the shelves of the USACAEL.

A typical aqueous extract solution as prepared by our contract

manufacturer, Bayer Laboratories, will contain the active ingredients

or allergens as noted on the label (pollen, dander, molds, dust

etc.). The preservative is 50% V/V glycerin, 0.4% phenol or in a few

instances where phenol cannot be used 0.1% thimerosal. Additional

ingredients include 0.5% sodium chloride and 0.275% sodium

bicarbonate. These solutions should be clear and free from any

particulate matter. The supplied concentration of these solutions is

usually expressed as Protein Nitrogen Units per ml (ie. 10,000 or

20,000 PNU/ml) or Weight per Volume (ie. 1:10 or 1:20 W/V)

concentrations from the manufacturer. The large part of our inventory

(attached) are stocked at PNU/ml and W/V concentrations. The FDA is

working hard to better standardize allergen extract products. The

continued utilization of these products and scientific advances have

aided in the gradual refinement of earlier allergen extract products.

The perfect allergenic extract as been defined as one that contains

all the potential allergens in their native form, in the proper ratio

and with all irrelevant material removed. Currently, however, only a

few relevant " allergens " have been isolated in only a small number of

extract products (Fel d 1 or Cat Allergen 1 in Cat extracts and

Antigen E in Short ragweed extract for example).

Diluents and Preservatives Dilutions of concentrated extracts

prepared for diagnostic testing materials and treatment sets retain

potency longer when diluted with Human Serum Albumin saline diluent

(HSA) than with plain buffered or phenol saline alone. Glycerin is a

superb stabilizer and extracts in 50% solution retain their potency

for considerable periods of time. It must be noted, however, that

when extracts containing more than 10% glycerin are injected, a

burning sensation occurs at the site of injection which is not well

tolerated by patients. Thus, intradermal testing materials (ID) are

diluted with HSA diluent rather than a 50% glycerin solution. Prick

or scratch testing materials, on the other hand, may be diluted and

stabilized with glycerin. This is due to the fact that glycerin is

not irritating on the surface of the skin. Thus, prick or scratch

testing materials are in 50% glycerin. Immunotherapy treatment sets

for patients are diluted down with HSA diluent except where Center-

Al or Allpyral extracts are being used. In instances where these

alum- precipitated extracts are being used the preferred diluent is

phenol saline diluent (0.9% sodium chloride and 0.4% phenol).

http://www.hollister-stier.com/download_pdfs/385407-H02.pdf

OVERDOSAGE: See ADVERSE REACTIONS Section. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:

1. General Sterile aqueous diluent containing albumin (human)

[Albumin Saline with Phenol (0.4%)] or diluent of 50% glycerin may be

used when preparing dilutions of the concentrate for immunotherapy.

For intradermal testing dilutions, Albumin Saline with Phenol (0.4%)

is recommended. Dilutions should be made accurately and aseptically,

using sterile diluent, vials, syringes, etc. Mix thoroughly and

gently by rocking or swirling. Parenteral drug products should be

inspected visually for particulate matter and discoloration prior to

administration whenever solution and container permit.

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

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I did not know that at the time I did allergy testing and allergy shots in my teens (I've learned plenty since).  Back then I never saw any benefit (ie: I woulnd up in the ER just as often), but in retrospect, all of my health issues began after a couple of years of shots....

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:49 PM, jegaal <jegaal@...> wrote:

I have been following this list serve for a while and I have never read anything about preservatives in allergy shots. Someone brought this up to me today. After a quick google search I saw that some of these shots contain thimerosal. I was wondering if anyone knew this to be a fact, or had any other information on the preservatives contained in these shots. I am trying to do a little detective work to solve the issue of my failing health. I think this may be a piece to that puzzle.

Looking forward to getting your responses :)

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Sheri,

May I share this email? We never got any allergy shots, but have friends that

did. Would the same be the skin prick allergy tests?

Kathy

>

> I decided to do a little

> digging, and do not like what I found.

>

>

>

>

> http://neuro-

> www.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/CreutzfeldtJakobsF/Albumininallergyex tract.html

>

> Albumin in allergy extract

>

> This response submitted by Zambenini , RN on 2/7/98. Email

> Address: lzambeni@i...

>

> Ask any allergist what the " diluents " are. They are either a

> combination of HSA (human serum albumin),normal saline, and phenol OR

> glycerol, normal saline and phenol. The glycerol based solution is

> almost always used for skin testing since it has higher viscosity and

> thus tends not to " bleed " into adjacent test sites and obscure

> results. From my experience working in an Immunization/Travel clinic

> it seems most extracts are HSA based, not glycerol. Glycerol is not

> used as often because it tends to cause more reactivity and sterile

> abcesses especially at larger doses. All this info can be found in

> the " Immunofacts " book which we have at our office -it is an

> excellent resource book on vaccines and immunobiologicals. I can get

> you the publisher and ISBN # if you want it. Also, patients who are

> RAST tested for allergies (blood test) instead of skin tested have

> their allergy extracts ordered from and produced by large

> pharmaceutical companies who deal in immunobiologicals, rather than

> having the allergist formulate them in the office. Bayer and Allermed

> are a couple of the companies that come to mind. When we get these

> vials of allergy extract to administer to a patient they come with

> extensive package inserts (you practically need a microscope to read)

> just like any other prescription drug. They all use different

> formulations - some mix cat pelt allergen using the HSA mixture,

> others use this for their dust mites etc... I have read this on the

> ingredient list on the package inserts. HSA is used as a protein

> stabilizer (as is glycerol) to extend shelf life. Without HSA or

> glycerol (ie: just normal saline and phenol} the allergy extract is

> only good a short time- I beleive just a few hours or days. Maybe you

> could get a package insert from an allergist that employs RAST

> testing, or from Bayer if you are interested. Allergy extract

> formulated in the allergist's office almost never list the diluents

> used - just the allergens (cat,dust, mold, ragweed, pollens,

> cockroach,dog etc...).

>

> I learned about allergy extract diluents accidently about 2 weeks ago

> when I was flipping through our " Immunofacts " book looking for some

> info about a vaccine. There was a single page dedicated to allergenic

> diluents - I was quite surprised to learn that HSA was used. I always

> thought they were formulated with saline or glycerol and phenol. I

> also get allergy shots and contacted my allergist. Sure enough my

> dust mites vial was diluted with the HSA diluent. I asked my

> allergist to reformulate it and told him my concerns. He has agreed

> to do this but made a point of saying it is FDA approved , which it

> is. However, I choose to have control over what goes in my body till

> more is known. I do not beleive non-essential products (like allergy

> extracts) should contain HSA; till more is known these should be

> reformulated , which is possible, to eliminate any risk.

>

>

> http://www.greerlabs.com/47.aspx

>

> WARNINGS Concentrated extracts must be diluted with a sterile diluent

> (such as normal saline, buffered saline, saline with human serum

> albumin, or saline with 10% glycerin) prior to use in a patient for

> intradermal testing. Concentrates of Allergenic Extracts are

> manufactured to assure high potency and have the ability to cause

> serious local and systemic reactions including death in sensitive

> patients. Most reactions occur within 20 minutes after injection, but

> may occur later. To minimize the potential for local or systemic

> reactions, the relative sensitivity of the patient must be assessed

> from the allergic history and from clinical observations. Patients

> should be informed of the possibility of these reactions and the

> precautions should be discussed prior to testing

>

>

> http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departments/allergy/CAEL/product.htm

>

> 1. Aqueous Extract Solutions Sterile aqueous stock solutions comprise

> the vast majority of allergen extracts on the shelves of the USACAEL.

> A typical aqueous extract solution as prepared by our contract

> manufacturer, Bayer Laboratories, will contain the active ingredients

> or allergens as noted on the label (pollen, dander, molds, dust

> etc.). The preservative is 50% V/V glycerin, 0.4% phenol or in a few

> instances where phenol cannot be used 0.1% thimerosal. Additional

> ingredients include 0.5% sodium chloride and 0.275% sodium

> bicarbonate. These solutions should be clear and free from any

> particulate matter. The supplied concentration of these solutions is

> usually expressed as Protein Nitrogen Units per ml (ie. 10,000 or

> 20,000 PNU/ml) or Weight per Volume (ie. 1:10 or 1:20 W/V)

> concentrations from the manufacturer. The large part of our inventory

> (attached) are stocked at PNU/ml and W/V concentrations. The FDA is

> working hard to better standardize allergen extract products. The

> continued utilization of these products and scientific advances have

> aided in the gradual refinement of earlier allergen extract products.

> The perfect allergenic extract as been defined as one that contains

> all the potential allergens in their native form, in the proper ratio

> and with all irrelevant material removed. Currently, however, only a

> few relevant " allergens " have been isolated in only a small number of

> extract products (Fel d 1 or Cat Allergen 1 in Cat extracts and

> Antigen E in Short ragweed extract for example).

>

> Diluents and Preservatives Dilutions of concentrated extracts

> prepared for diagnostic testing materials and treatment sets retain

> potency longer when diluted with Human Serum Albumin saline diluent

> (HSA) than with plain buffered or phenol saline alone. Glycerin is a

> superb stabilizer and extracts in 50% solution retain their potency

> for considerable periods of time. It must be noted, however, that

> when extracts containing more than 10% glycerin are injected, a

> burning sensation occurs at the site of injection which is not well

> tolerated by patients. Thus, intradermal testing materials (ID) are

> diluted with HSA diluent rather than a 50% glycerin solution. Prick

> or scratch testing materials, on the other hand, may be diluted and

> stabilized with glycerin. This is due to the fact that glycerin is

> not irritating on the surface of the skin. Thus, prick or scratch

> testing materials are in 50% glycerin. Immunotherapy treatment sets

> for patients are diluted down with HSA diluent except where Center-

> Al or Allpyral extracts are being used. In instances where these

> alum- precipitated extracts are being used the preferred diluent is

> phenol saline diluent (0.9% sodium chloride and 0.4% phenol).

>

>

> http://www.hollister-stier.com/download_pdfs/385407-H02.pdf

>

>

> OVERDOSAGE: See ADVERSE REACTIONS Section. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:

> 1. General Sterile aqueous diluent containing albumin (human)

> [Albumin Saline with Phenol (0.4%)] or diluent of 50% glycerin may be

> used when preparing dilutions of the concentrate for immunotherapy.

> For intradermal testing dilutions, Albumin Saline with Phenol (0.4%)

> is recommended. Dilutions should be made accurately and aseptically,

> using sterile diluent, vials, syringes, etc. Mix thoroughly and

> gently by rocking or swirling. Parenteral drug products should be

> inspected visually for particulate matter and discoloration prior to

> administration whenever solution and container permit.

>

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email

> courses - next classes start December 2 & 3

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

>

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I think thimerosal hides in many things that we have no idea about. I was

recently purchasing saline solution and ran across a no name brand that had in

big letters that it was thimersol free, which leads me to believe that it must

be in other brands. Is there no escape??

Regina

>

> I have been following this list serve for a while and I have never read

anything about preservatives in allergy shots. Someone brought this up to me

today. After a quick google search I saw that some of these shots contain

thimerosal. I was wondering if anyone knew this to be a fact, or had any other

information on the preservatives contained in these shots. I am trying to do a

little detective work to solve the issue of my failing health. I think this may

be a piece to that puzzle.

> Looking forward to getting your responses :)

>

>

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Auggie,

I have about 25 years cummulative with allergy shots in my home state of Calif.,

plus Texas, Ok. and Wyo. Everytime I relocated, I needed to be retested (the arm

prick/welt test) and a serum developed for the flora and molds of that area.

I also did the allergy food test in the beginning. When that turned up clear, we

began with shots. I haven't had any injections since 1986 and have been symptom

free.

Did not have any adverse effects at all.

Gretchen

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Hi All,

I have had allergy shots twice to see if they would help. One time was at the

beginning of this in the 1980's. I didn't do well with the shots and I never

progressed they way that you are supposed to from twice a week to once a week

and so on. I was always getting upper respiratory infections and worsening

asthma. I had changed doctors some years later and the new doctor kept urging me

to try shots again since I was still having illnesses from the building. I

finally said ok and went to a different allergist. He assured me that he knew

the way the other allergist worked and that he did things differently, he

thought he could help me. I had the shots for a few months and I did manage to

get to once a week. Then all h & ll broke loose. I had a severe reaction that

attacked me neurologically and I was out on disability for 12 weeks. I couldn't

walk, had ataxia, vertigo, basically sat in a chair or laid in bed. Acupuncture

was the only thing that helped me get back to being able to move around. I still

have damage- I fall a lot. Please be extremely careful if you try shots. I am

not telling anyone they shouldn't try them just be careful. I would hate to see

anyone else suffer like I did.

I also seem to have the bad genes as well as extreme mold allergy. The second

allergist said I reacted more to more different molds than anyone he had ever

seen. I told him it was because I basically worked in a virtual petri plate -

the sick building.

Take care,

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