Morgellons

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Cyndi- Have you ever been to an acupuncturist before?

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> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at Healthwalk. I

> > > > brought in I

> > > > got off my skin from

> > > > > rubbing my body with epsom salt.

> > > > >

> > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under his

> > > > high powered

> > > > microscope and it does look

> > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a bunch of

> > > > stringy things

> > > > coming out of the top.

> > > > >

> > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking Colloidal

> > > > silver 4xday

> > > > followed a half hour later by

> > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida) and

> > > > cleaning my house

> > > > with an ozone

> > > > > generator. And also making a cream of Eucerin

> > > > lotion with

> > > > colloidal silver and putting it

> > > > > all over my skin everyday.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But I

> > > > still need to buy

> > > > the ozone generator... he says

> > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in the

> > > > house....they are

> > > > expensive, but I think i will

> > > > > get one.

> > > > >

> > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by

> > > > Monsanto that was

> > > > erroneously let out into the

> > > > > air.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Love L

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Thats great that your acupuncturist is from China, Som. And that he

feels confident in helping you.

I went to my appointment yesterday as well, and talked with this

lady I am seeing - I asked her if she thinks that all Naturopaths

will be able to help with what we are dealing with - and she said

she didnt think so. She said to be very picky. She said chances

are if they have only studied and practised in the US (the west)

that there understanding of this parasite/mite problem will be very

limited.

I think someone asked if she is an Avermenic (sorry if thats not the

correct word) and she did study hers in India.

Sounds like she takes patience from all around the country, but she

doesnt treat people from a distance they have to come to her. If

anyone is close to Idaho let me know and I will write up her info.

I really wish I could see Dr. from Healthwalk - thats so

awesome Lucy, that you are able to see him.

One more thing, has anyone else used products by ESP botanicals?

I wanted to mention this company as I have been using there products

for about a month. And though we dont have lesions, my youngest

daughter has had an odd rash the has persisted during these 5

months, I am thinking that these products are what finally got rid

of it. Trisha does claim to be able to cure morgellons lesions and

other terrible skin manifestations -

She seems really kind, and always adds free items, or larger items

than what I ordered. I bet that she might even send samples if

anyone wanted to see if her products would help them.

I am interested in the machine (ozonator or something) that people

are talking about, unfortunately like many of you I am all out of

money....I think the heating cleared what ever this is from my

environment anyway. I just wanted to mention one more thing that I

am using called Eco Vie. (www.ecochem.com) its supposed to kill

mold, fungi, bacteria, mites. Its very diluted and goes a long way -

I bath my girls in it. And spray it around my house. Its non toxic.

I am totally in agreement with Som and Sybil, we have had limited or

no success with chemicals (although I do still think windex works,

but luckily heating was even better) And I also am in agreement that

changing our bodies chemistry will be our first line of offense

against this. I remember the absolute WORST night of my life (when

I was completely under siege) was the night after having my house

fumigated, compared to how good we felt after heating. Mel why dont

you dust off your heater and give it another whirl:)

Hope I havent rambled here, I think this forum is very inspiring.

Lucy is right, people on here are worried not just for themselves,

but for each other. Through out this ordeal I have crossed paths

with some of the finest people I will ever meet (Mel, Ray and others)

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Hi Lucy Lu,

Thanks for your perspective on Dr. . Has he treated anyone with

Morgellons that was " cured " of this? Just wondering. Thanks.

Lady Dee

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> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at

> > Healthwalk.

> > > > I

> > > > > brought in I

> > > > > got off my skin from

> > > > > > rubbing my body with epsom salt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under

> > his

> > > > > high powered

> > > > > microscope and it does look

> > > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a

> > bunch of

> > > > > stringy things

> > > > > coming out of the top.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking

> > > > Colloidal

> > > > > silver 4xday

> > > > > followed a half hour later by

> > > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida)

> > and

> > > > > cleaning my house

> > > > > with an ozone

> > > > > > generator. And also making a cream of

> > Eucerin

> > > > > lotion with

> > > > > colloidal silver and putting it

> > > > > > all over my skin everyday.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But

> > I

> > > > > still need to buy

> > > > > the ozone generator... he says

> > > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in

> > the

> > > > > house....they are

> > > > > expensive, but I think i will

> > > > > > get one.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by

> > > > > Monsanto that was

> > > > > erroneously let out into the

> > > > > > air.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love L

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Yes, only once since she did not seem to think she could help.

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> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at Healthwalk. I

> > > > > brought in I

> > > > > got off my skin from

> > > > > > rubbing my body with epsom salt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under his

> > > > > high powered

> > > > > microscope and it does look

> > > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a bunch of

> > > > > stringy things

> > > > > coming out of the top.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking Colloidal

> > > > > silver 4xday

> > > > > followed a half hour later by

> > > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida) and

> > > > > cleaning my house

> > > > > with an ozone

> > > > > > generator. And also making a cream of Eucerin

> > > > > lotion with

> > > > > colloidal silver and putting it

> > > > > > all over my skin everyday.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But I

> > > > > still need to buy

> > > > > the ozone generator... he says

> > > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in the

> > > > > house....they are

> > > > > expensive, but I think i will

> > > > > > get one.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by

> > > > > Monsanto that was

> > > > > erroneously let out into the

> > > > > > air.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love L

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Holy cow, its going to take me all night to read all these posts. I leave for one night and the place blows up?....lol Hope everyone is well, had a nice evening with my son. Will catch up and post."hunger.stryke" <cyndilees@...> wrote: Yes, only once since she did not seem to think she could help.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at Healthwalk. I> > > > > brought in I > > > > > got off my skin from > > > > > > rubbing my body with epsom

salt.> > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under his> > > > > high powered > > > > > microscope and it does look > > > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a bunch of> > > > > stringy things > > > > > coming out of the top.> > > > > > > > > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking Colloidal> > > > > silver 4xday > > > > > followed a half hour later by > > > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida) and> > > > > cleaning my house > > > > > with an ozone > > > > > > generator. And also making a cream of Eucerin> > > > > lotion with > > > > > colloidal silver and putting it > > >

> > > all over my skin everyday. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But I> > > > > still need to buy > > > > > the ozone generator... he says > > > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in the> > > > > house....they are > > > > > expensive, but I think i will > > > > > > get one. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by> > > > > Monsanto that was > > > > > erroneously let out into the > > > > > > air.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Love L> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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this is the link

http://eco-vie.com/ecovie/ev_top_c.html

to go to the right page for eco-vie if anyone is interested.

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Hi Mel... Yo can get colloidal and Ionic Silver at a health food store. Do you have a whole foods in your area?ladydee96 <ladydee96@...> wrote: Hi Lucy Lu,Thanks for your perspective on Dr. . Has he treated anyone with Morgellons that was "cured" of this? Just wondering. Thanks. Lady Dee> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at> > Healthwalk.> > > > I> > > >

> brought in I > > > > > got off my skin from > > > > > > rubbing my body with epsom salt.> > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under> > his> > > > > high powered > > > > > microscope and it does look > > > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a> > bunch of> > > > > stringy things > > > > > coming out of the top.> > > > > > > > > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking> > > > Colloidal> > > > > silver 4xday > > > > > followed a half hour later by > > > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida)> > and> > > > > cleaning my house > > > > > with an ozone >

> > > > > generator. And also making a cream of> > Eucerin> > > > > lotion with > > > > > colloidal silver and putting it > > > > > > all over my skin everyday. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But> > I> > > > > still need to buy > > > > > the ozone generator... he says > > > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in> > the> > > > > house....they are > > > > > expensive, but I think i will > > > > > > get one. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by> > > > > Monsanto that was > > > > > erroneously let out into the > > > > > > air.>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love L> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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I'll be looking for one when I get paid on the 15th. thanks for all your help Fritolay.fritolay66 <fritolay66@...> wrote: Hi Mel... Yo can get colloidal and Ionic Silver at a health food store. Do you have a whole foods in your area?ladydee96 <ladydee96 > wrote: Hi Lucy Lu,Thanks for your perspective on Dr. . Has he treated anyone with Morgellons that was "cured" of this? Just

wondering. Thanks. Lady Dee> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > > I just went to see Dr Hugh at> > Healthwalk.> > > > I> > > > > brought in I > > > > > got off my skin from > > > > > > rubbing my body with epsom salt.> > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons. I saw it with him under> > his> > > > > high powered > > > > > microscope and it does look > > > > > > like Morgelllons. --A weird body with a> > bunch of> > > > > stringy things > > > > > coming out of the top.> > > > > > > > > > > > He thinks i can get rid of it by taking> >

> > Colloidal> > > > > silver 4xday > > > > > followed a half hour later by > > > > > > probiotics (they love people with candida)> > and> > > > > cleaning my house > > > > > with an ozone > > > > > > generator. And also making a cream of> > Eucerin> > > > > lotion with > > > > > colloidal silver and putting it > > > > > > all over my skin everyday. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have done this and i do feeel better. But> > I> > > > > still need to buy > > > > > the ozone generator... he says > > > > > > it will kill any bacteria, mold and bugs in> > the> > > > > house....they are > > > > > expensive, but I think i

will > > > > > > get one. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said Morgellons is a bacteria created by> > > > > Monsanto that was > > > > > erroneously let out into the > > > > > > air.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love L> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dr. Wymore is a full time professor at OK State Univ, and does all the

Morgellons research on his own time, though the Univ does pay for an assistant

for him. They fully support what he is doing, though all of the independent

replication/lab analysis is paid for through donations.

This is him from last year's Annual Morgellons Scientific/Medical Conference in

Austin :http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Dr+Wymore & hl=en & emb=0#

He is speaking again this year (it's next Saturday). There will be three MD's

(possibly a 4th), an EDD, and Dr. Wymore presenting. One of the doctors has

Morgellons.

Bessie

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> I was under the impression that many of the people on that listserv were

suffering from Morgellons and that the bird mites were a part of this

affliction.

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> I've read that site a few times but I wasn't aware he was associated with a

research university.

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> Please highlight any info you think is important.

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> Thanks,

> JW

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I'm sure that you have never been to Dr. Wymore's site, as it is at the Univ of

OK. It is not a " discussion " site:

http://www.healthsciences.okstate.edu/morgellons/index.cfm

There is too much for me to capture quickly, but there is plenty of evidence

that Morgellons is a real disorder, possible vectored by mites, but not a bird

mite problem.

>

> I was under the impression that many of the people on that listserv were

suffering from Morgellons and that the bird mites were a part of this

affliction.

>

> I've read that site a few times but I wasn't aware he was associated with a

research university.

>

> Please highlight any info you think is important.

>

> Thanks,

> JW

>

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I actually went to that site after you said he was from OK state. Very good to know.I have also studied the site http://morgellonspgpr.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/does-this-identification-mean-anything-i-do-not-know/and it makes me skeptical not of his work but of the scientific validity for studying it.You see he put the fibers in a cell culture. Fibers are composed of proteins and have no real genetic relevance except that you could ID the amino acid code and work backwards to the DNA code and search a database to see if this sequence is conserved ( similar to) species of known organisms.Then at the bottom the page says something about actin or tubulin or something.DNA sequence similarity is conserved prolly over 95% (95% similar) for these proteins in organisms from bacteeria to humans, so there is no

real data.On second thought I have absoutely no idea what he's doing. He doesn't provide detailed enough procedures, but I think he's saying that the bacteria who lived after exposure to these fibers were the 2 listed. It makes no sense. And a scientist usually wouldn't say "I think."The fact that he's withdrawing the research makes me think that he found something that nullifies the justification for continuing research, or he realized that there's just really nothing you can do with a fiber, which is true.A fiber means nothing. You need the DNA from the suspected culprit, or the suspected culprit itself.And how would you find that?Short of milions of dollars worth of blood and tissue sampling I don't think you would.It's sad stuff, and if someone cannot come up with something based on their own experience then there's nothing to be purusued.If you have an idea don't

be afraid to ask. Your not a scientist so please don't take anything personal.Think how could I get a sample (which realistically will not be pure) of the organism that is afflicting me, and not just the symptoms.From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>Subject: Re: Morgellonsbird mites Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 8:50 PM

I'm sure that you have never been to Dr. Wymore's site, as it is at the Univ of OK. It is not a "discussion" site:

http://www.healthsc iences.okstate. edu/morgellons/ index.cfm

There is too much for me to capture quickly, but there is plenty of evidence that Morgellons is a real disorder, possible vectored by mites, but not a bird mite problem.

>

> I was under the impression that many of the people on that listserv were suffering from Morgellons and that the bird mites were a part of this affliction.

>

> I've read that site a few times but I wasn't aware he was associated with a research university.

>

> Please highlight any info you think is important.

>

> Thanks,

> JW

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I'm sorry , but I have no idea what you are talking about. The person at

that wordpress blog is NOT Dr. Wymore. That guy is a non-scientist who is

grabbing at bits & pieces and making no sense.

Dr. Wymore hasn't got time to blog. If you would go to the link that I provided

for you then you would know how Dr. Wymore arrived at his conclusions. I'm

sorry, but I won't spoon-feed his research.

I also hope for your sake that all you have are mites and not Morgellons.

Have YOU captured and had them ID'd? Why would you need to solicit samples from

other people?

Bessie

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> > I was under the impression that many of the people on that listserv were

suffering from Morgellons and that the bird mites were a part of this

affliction.

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> > I've read that site a few times but I wasn't aware he was associated with a

research university.

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> > Please highlight any info you think is important.

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> > Thanks,

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> > JW

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http://morgellons.org/index.html

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Lee I know how difficult it is with so little known about morgellons, and so

many on the internet describing the disease. In my opinion who really knows at

this point what this is.

Myself I think I was infected by the infestation. Infested with mites

springtails from a birds nest. Infected with what, lyme definitely, and

co-infections, possibly one being this new disease named morgellon. Or perhaps

the lyme weakened my immune and caused this disease that has taken the name

morgellon.

If it were me I would focus on treating lyme, which is difficult to diagnose and

treat as well. I would look for vectors and host, including yourself, meaning

this creature hosted me.

Really all you can do is read and make your own informed choices. Wish I had the

answers for you. Thank goodness for the internet, or I would not be healed. That

is where I found my answers not the medical community.

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> I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us and she

mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that we have

been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a birdmite

problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly seeking

direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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> Thank you

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How do you know that you have it though? Or is that what we all have in varying

degrees? I'm not understanding...

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> > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us and she

mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that we have

been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a birdmite

problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly seeking

direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

> >

> > Thank you

> >

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We definitely had/have some bird mites in our home that began this for us. The

mote bites caused us to because the target host for all kinds of mites.

We now get crawled on by all different types of mites when they are present in

the environment and we are sensitized to them so that our skin feels irritated

when mites are on us of any kind. We get bit when there are biting mites in the

environment or when they take up residence on our skin or in our eyes, nose,

intestines, etc... it is creepy and crawly and prickly when the mites bug us and

we do get bites too.

I don't know what Morgellons is... but it may be related to what has happened to

us. Some of the 'bites' we get may actually be our skin expelling a microscopic

crystal of something... maybe not. It is impossible for us to know.

If Morgellons always involves fibers then we do not yet have it. I fear it may

begin any time though based on what we have read from other people.

For months I've had a darkened patch of itchy skin on my thigh that is about 3 "

X 2 " and it gets itchy bites on it sometimes. I have no idea what it is... Any

ideas from anyone???????

z3

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> > > > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us and

she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that we

have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a

birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly

seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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> > > > Thank you

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the patches of " rash " that I get also is discolored slightly. It eventually

will get tiny red pin pricks everywhere. If I itch it (it itches all of the time

and burns)it will develop hives and eventually the hives will stay. I have to

say that borax baths followed by coconut oil really soothes this.

I do not have fibers yet either.

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> > > > > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us

and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that

we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a

birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly

seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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> > > > > Thank you

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Just got home from 12 hours of work (uuugg!!!) and am considering a borax bath

too (per 's recommendation) if I get get up the energy after dinner...

coconut oil sounds like an excellent plan to follow the bath... not enough time

to heat up the sauna anyhow.

z3

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> > > > > > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us

and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that

we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a

birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly

seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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Has the Borax baths helped the discolored skin to return to normal???

The patch I have is very very much like you describe, yet the skin discoloration

is kind of dark and faintly blackish . In fact it almost looks very faintly

bruised... and has been that way for over a year off and on. What color is your

discolored skin patch???

Thanks,

z3

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> > > > > > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with us

and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash that

we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons or a

birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry - desperatly

seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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> > > > > > Thank you

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Mine doesn't sound as dark as yours, but I'm white wall white - mine is very

light gray/blueish in tint. It has almost disappeared. I can still feel the bite

marks (bumps), but can hardly see anything. I have been soaking in borax and now

borax/sea salt for a couple of weeks now and I always put coconut oil in for the

last couple of minutes. I hope I'm not hurting my skin! I just needed the

itching/burning to stop.

The crawling has gotten pretty bad again over the last few days... I have been

really stressed out and I'm sure that isn't helping anything. I wish I could

figure out how to make it stop. =)

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> > > > > > > I was talking to someone today about what has been going on with

us and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like rash

that we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have Morgellons

or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way? Sorry -

desperatly seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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> > > > > > > Thank you

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Is it possible you still have biting mites from rodents or birds in your

environment? Did you ever? Sorry I forget your history with this.

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with us and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like

rash that we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have

Morgellons or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way?

Sorry - desperatly seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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I had the greyness blue rash to, my doctor diagnosed mine as lyme. My friends

said rigamordis was setting in:) I am white and not real darked skinned?

http://www.natcaplyme.org/index.php?name=News & file=article & sid=64

On dark skin, the rash may appear as a dark bruise, as some of the pictures from

the Lyme Disease Foundation demonstrate (please see

http://www.lyme.org/gallery/em_patmas3.html and

http://www.lyme.org/gallery/emmasters.html for examples.

EM rashes appearing on brown-skinned or sun-tanned patients may be more

difficult to identify because of decreased contrast between light-skinned tones

and the red rash. A dark, bruise-like appearance is more common on dark-skinned

patients.

http://www.aldf.com/lyme.shtml

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Morgellons or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way?

Sorry - desperatly seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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The rash can also appear as a bruise.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & q=+lyme+rash+look+like+bruise & aq=f & aqi= & aql= & \

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with us and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like

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Morgellons or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way?

Sorry - desperatly seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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Yikes, it could be a lyme rash or other similar infection, I hadn't thought of

that. Perhaps I should take Doxycycline as Rose did 3 times per day for 3

months...

The rash comes and goes, but always in the same spot. I'll go ahead and see a

Lyme specialist. , do you think I should see the MD you saw to be tested?

Thanks, z3

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with us and she mentioned that people with Morgellons often have the hive like

rash that we have been getting. Is this true? How do you know if you have

Morgellons or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way?

Sorry - desperatly seeking direction on a topic I know NOTHING about.

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Hi

Zoe

Peroxide & borax & water stopped the burning in 3 mins , it is the only thing

that did it fast for me , I had the burning for 3.5 years before I found the mix

, what a miricle , I thought it would catch fire sometimes , I tried everything

I could think of

sulfur , alcohol , betadine , oil , soap , athletes foot cremes,Nothing would

stop it except 1 week of sulfur creme at 10 percent concentration & 10 perc

coconut oil 80 percent hand creme ( 365 brand hand creme from whole foods )

Sulfur from : www.americarx.com 12 oz jar By Humco flowers of sulfur sublimed ,

$12.00 .

But this mix stopped the burning on my skin in 3 mins ...

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide , it feels like water going on ,

it is nothing , no fiz , no burn , I used it 19 in a row , Frito used it for 30

days top of head to toes, it didn't bleach any of my clothes but my hair got

blonder .

Nite, & God bless you ,

Bill

On Sun Aug 29th, 2010 2:41 AM EDT Lynn wrote:

>Leslee

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>Change tactics for a short while. After soaking only 20 min. in the bath. Get

the shower going and gently use some organic Baking Soda. Rubed gently head to

toe and rinse. Spray Vinagar with a dribble of Dr. Bronners Pepperment Shampoo

into you hair and leave it in at night. Personally I like stoped the baking soda

and switched to the vinagar and like the result better. 24 oz. hot water with

1/4 C. Vinagar. A dribble of Eco orange sprayed head to toe and at night rinse

off the body but not the hair before using my Sulfar soap.

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>Also get about 4 oz of hot water, 4 oz of white distilled Vinagar, with a

dribble of Eco orange, and a dribble of With Hazel, and a dribble of Dr.

Bronners pepperment shampoo. Lightly spray all the layers of your bedding

starting with the mattress cover. Don't forget the pillows. See if that deters

them. You can do this without stripping the bed. If you need to know how e-mail

me.

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>The coconut oil would make me sting worse and had to stop using it. Once in a

while I would put it on for 20 min before a shower to try and restore moisture,

but also eating a TB in the morning helps do that also. I like s recipe for

keeping bugs off. Have not tried it yet, but you may want to. I still am trying

to figure out how to budget it in.

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>In Light Lynn

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Morgellons or a birdmite problem? Should you treat them both in the same way?

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