Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 > > > > > Here is a new equipment maker that has developed static training > equipment. > > > > Any comments? Hi With a little imagination most any worth while machine can be set up for isometrics, e.g., overload the machine and set the mechanical athlete interface to desired position and isometric to hearts content. I've been promoting Iso training for arthritics for 20 years -- it has yet to fail. 3-4 positions 3 sets 0f 5 sec reps each position. Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Jerry, What kinds of results have your trainees achieved from the isometric training modality that you prescribed? Is it only for those for arthritic joints? Is there any benefit for athletes or bodybuilders? Thanks, Ed White Sandwich, MA USA ================================ > > > > > Here is a new equipment maker that has developed static training > equipment. > > > > Any comments? Hi With a little imagination most any worth while machine can be set up for isometrics, e.g., overload the machine and set the mechanical athlete interface to desired position and isometric to hearts content. I've been promoting Iso training for arthritics for 20 years -- it has yet to fail. 3-4 positions 3 sets 0f 5 sec reps each position. ========================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hello : Reading your post, I'm curious to learn what you do for transverse movements effecting the back/core? In my experience, most folks past age 50 awake daily to gnawing back pain, often diagnosed as " arthritis " (any one of 80 conditions fit that je ne sais pas. In most every case, six workouts doing horizontal hip rotations (aka horizontal chops) using JC Predator tubing or cable pulleys results in dramatic reduction unto just plain disappearance of the condition. I'm beginning to wonder how many of our aches and pains aren't merely symptoms or outcomes of iatrogenic training? best, Ken O'Neill Austin, Tejas > > Hi Jerry, > I'm 58 and am suffering from OA in my knee joints and wake up with back ache if I do heavy overhead presses.I am particularly interested in your isometric exercise program you mentioned, especially from the loading point of view. > I have since reduced much of my current load of training and have increased reps and even resoughted to super-setting and the likes so as to maintain muscle mass/quality. > Thanks as stopping working out is the last thing I'd want to do. > > Morton > Malaysia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > I'm 58 and am suffering from OA in my knee joints and wake up with > back ache if I do heavy overhead presses.I am particularly > interested in your isometric exercise program you mentioned, > especially from the loading point of view. > > I have since reduced much of my current load of training and have > increased reps and even resoughted to super-setting and the likes so > as to maintain muscle mass/quality. > > Thanks as stopping working out is the last thing I'd want to do. > > > > Morton > > Malaysia Hi , I must have missed your post as I got this from Ken's. Anyway my first suggestion is to give up any overhead pressing -- forever ;-) at least as much as your necessities designate. There are better, or at least as good, means to maximize delt hypertrophy without any overheads. Sixty degree incline Arnold's for one, 45° back against pad neutral grip front raises for another, scapular plane upright rows and 45° incline, neutral wrist, side laterals to start with. OA knees addressed with isometric leg press' or squats on the . I misstated the protocol before. Four positions emphasizing the deeper positions -- near lockouts tend to be irritating. Four reps at every position -- 5-6 second reps. Or on the leg press start as deep as possible 1 rep every position X's 5-6 seconds -- no rest between reps until entire ROM completed. If hypertrophy is desired maybe 2-3 sets/ cycles of the 1 rep every position protocol. Little known is that even though there is no joint movement during isometric efforts, there is actin/myosin interdigitation due to tendon stretch. Over the course of isometric leg presses at every position of the ROM the entire range of A/M overlap is accomplished. Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 > What kinds of results have your trainees achieved from the isometric > training modality that you prescribed? Telle-- Increased joint ROM and strength, and pain reduction. Even a few cancelled surgery! Others believed that post surgery recovery was significantly faster. But then they came back to our training program and bypassed the hyper conservative, in many cases extremely ignorant established protocols. > Is it only for those for arthritic joints? Telle -- Originally > Is there any benefit for athletes or bodybuilders? Telle -- Perhaps a slight joint integrity/strength advantage?? Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks for your response Jerry. Your protocol for shoulders looks interesting and well worth trying out However for my knees, pardon me asking : 1) Does 5-6 secs reps mean resisting the load in a particular isometric static posn for 5-6 secs every rep? 2) Do we execute all the 4 posns in a single set meaning a total of 16 reps per set. 3) How do we progress from one posn to another? Morton Malaysia > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > I'm 58 and am suffering from OA in my knee joints and wake up with > back ache if I do heavy overhead presses.I am particularly > interested in your isometric exercise program you mentioned, > especially from the loading point of view. > > I have since reduced much of my current load of training and have > increased reps and even resoughted to super-setting and the likes so > as to maintain muscle mass/quality. > > Thanks as stopping working out is the last thing I'd want to do. > > > > Morton > > Malaysia Hi , I must have missed your post as I got this from Ken's. Anyway my first suggestion is to give up any overhead pressing -- forever ;-) at least as much as your necessities designate. There are better, or at least as good, means to maximize delt hypertrophy without any overheads. Sixty degree incline Arnold's for one, 45° back against pad neutral grip front raises for another, scapular plane upright rows and 45° incline, neutral wrist, side laterals to start with. OA knees addressed with isometric leg press' or squats on the . I misstated the protocol before. Four positions emphasizing the deeper positions -- near lockouts tend to be irritating. Four reps at every position -- 5-6 second reps. Or on the leg press start as deep as possible 1 rep every position X's 5-6 seconds -- no rest between reps until entire ROM completed. If hypertrophy is desired maybe 2-3 sets/ cycles of the 1 rep every position protocol. Little known is that even though there is no joint movement during isometric efforts, there is actin/myosin interdigitation due to tendon stretch. Over the course of isometric leg presses at every position of the ROM the entire range of A/M overlap is accomplished. ======================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Can this protocol be adapted to leg extensions and leg curls? As for squats, a machine would be useful, I think. Regards Morton Malaysia > Thanks for your response Jerry. > Your protocol for shoulders looks interesting and well worth trying > out > However for my knees, pardon me asking : > 1) Does 5-6 secs reps mean resisting the load in a particular > isometric static posn for 5-6 secs every rep? Telle -- yes > 2) Do we execute all the 4 posns in a single set meaning a total of > 16 reps per set. Telle -- I do 4 reps X's 5 secs at the lowest possible position taking a deep breath between each rep/effort. Then I move the seat of the leg press back 1-2 holes, rest about a minute and do 4 more reps etc for 2 more positions. > 3) How do we progress from one posn to another? Telle -- Start at lowest and move seat back only to the point that the last position is a knee angle of about 30°. I have been assuming there is no tendon(itis) or ligament problems. > > > Morton > Malaysia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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