Re: Explosive heavy-resistance training in old and very old...

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In a message dated 12/10/2008 10:32:00 A.M. Central America Standard,

powerharp@... writes:

It's all about the wiring and his schematic is one

that is not made in the gym.

Hi !

Welcome aboard, and thanks for those insights! I like your wiring and

schematic metaphors. My experiences with high school and junior high kids over

the

years has led me to believe, as you have noted, that these special

schematics are not always made in the gym. However, within the research

community,

compelling evidence (though certainly challenged) suggests that all these

" talents " or " proclivities " are indeed trainable.

K. Anders sson believes that, with the exception of fixed genetic

factors determining body size and height, there are no innate constraints to the

attainment of elite achievement for healthy individuals. According to sson,

the key determinant is not innate talent, but what he refers to as

" deliberate practice " . Practice that is focused, productive, goal directed and

where

you can receive constant feedback.

I like Kaufman's take on sson's research:

" While I put in the same amount of intense practice in both basketball and

cello, I struggled to stand out in basketball (don't get me wrong, I wasn't

bad!), and learned cello with an ease that shocked everyone around me, including

myself.

From these two experiences, I became convinced that people really do have

certain proclivities, and while deliberate practice certainly matters, genes

facilitate the rate of learning to a considerable degree. "

Ken Jakalski

Lisle

HS

Lisle, IL USA

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> From these two experiences, I became convinced that people really do

> have

> certain proclivities, and while deliberate practice certainly

> matters, genes

> facilitate the rate of learning TELLE --AND EXTENT OF to a

> considerable degree. "

Greetings again a little more tellapedantry

Jerry Telle

lakewood CO USA

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Somewhere down below is either a comment by or a paraphrased comment

by sson: " there are no innate constraints to the

attainment of elite achievement for healthy individuals " . This does

not mean anything to me without the definition of " elite achievement " .

It seems to imply that training is the key. I agree that it is to a

certain extent, but were this assertion true, the finish of every

Olympic race would be a " photo finish " . By the same token, at the

elite level of any sport, the top would be super crowded. " Deliberate

practice " can definitely make any person the best that they can be,

but if their wiring is not superior to the competition, their

eliteness will remain within themselves.

My wiring and training enables me to do more than 50 pullups, which I

am proud of at the ripe old age of 58, but I know that in the universe

of 58 year old pull uppers, I am by no means at the top.

Best to all.

Mench

Hollywood Hills, California, USA,

>

>

> In a message dated 12/10/2008 10:32:00 A.M. Central America Standard,

> powerharp@... writes:

>

> It's all about the wiring and his schematic is one

> that is not made in the gym.

>

> Hi !

>

> Welcome aboard, and thanks for those insights! I like your wiring and

> schematic metaphors. My experiences with high school and junior high

kids over the

> years has led me to believe, as you have noted, that these special

> schematics are not always made in the gym. However, within the

research community,

> compelling evidence (though certainly challenged) suggests that all

these

> " talents " or " proclivities " are indeed trainable.

>

> K. Anders sson believes that, with the exception of fixed genetic

> factors determining body size and height, there are no innate

constraints to the

> attainment of elite achievement for healthy individuals. According

to sson,

> the key determinant is not innate talent, but what he refers to as

> " deliberate practice " . Practice that is focused, productive, goal

directed and where

> you can receive constant feedback.

>

> I like Kaufman's take on sson's research:

>

> " While I put in the same amount of intense practice in both

basketball and

> cello, I struggled to stand out in basketball (don't get me wrong, I

wasn't

> bad!), and learned cello with an ease that shocked everyone around

me, including

> myself.

>

> From these two experiences, I became convinced that people really do

have

> certain proclivities, and while deliberate practice certainly

matters, genes

> facilitate the rate of learning to a considerable degree. "

>

> Ken Jakalski

>

Lisle

> HS

> Lisle,

IL USA

>