RE: problem with tuna and a solution

[Guest guest]

 I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is a

nice alternative to tuna fish.

Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

 

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Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a little

similar to a tuna sandwich.

Ingredients:

* 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

* 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

* 2 tsp mustard

* 2 tbsp sweet relish

* 1 rib celery, minced

* dash salt and pepper, to taste

* lettuce greens

* sliced tomato

* sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

Preparation:

Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are mostly

smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt and

pepper.

Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on lightly

toasted bread.

Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea salad.

User Reviews

Carolyn Wilkerson

[Guest guest]

If you add some chopped up oyster mushrooms to this, it would probably taste

even more like tuna. We use oyster mushrooms for " sushi " , since we don't eat

fish or seafood-they have earned their name by tasting quite fishy-great though!

>

>  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is a

nice alternative to tuna fish.

>

> Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

>  

> *

> Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> Ingredients:

> * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> * 2 tsp mustard

> * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> * 1 rib celery, minced

> * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> * lettuce greens

> * sliced tomato

> * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> Preparation:

> Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are mostly

smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt and

pepper.

> Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on lightly

toasted bread.

> Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea salad.

> User Reviews

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I'd like that if it tasted like fish.  I don't like things that

are fishy.  I dd a littl honey mustard to mine and even add egg to cut the fish

taste as well as the mayo and pickle.  Never know though until you try it.  I

wondered why the beans would taste like tuna.  I didn't think the

chickpeas tasted that way before.  Of course the seasnings can help.   

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:22 AM

Subject: Re: problem with tuna and a solution

 

If you add some chopped up oyster mushrooms to this, it would probably taste

even more like tuna. We use oyster mushrooms for " sushi " , since we don't eat

fish or seafood-they have earned their name by tasting quite fishy-great though!

>

>  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is a

nice alternative to tuna fish.

>

> Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

>  

> *

> Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> Ingredients:

> * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> * 2 tsp mustard

> * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> * 1 rib celery, minced

> * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> * lettuce greens

> * sliced tomato

> * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> Preparation:

> Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are mostly

smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt and

pepper.

> Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on lightly

toasted bread.

> Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea salad.

> User Reviews

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn - have you tried this yet? I love hummus, but don't like chickpeas (I

call them garbonzo beans from living in Michigan a while) whole, like in a

3-bean salad. Let us know what you think when you can critique the taste etc.

Dona

>

>  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is a

nice alternative to tuna fish.

>

> Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

>  

> *

> Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> Ingredients:

> * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> * 2 tsp mustard

> * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> * 1 rib celery, minced

> * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> * lettuce greens

> * sliced tomato

> * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> Preparation:

> Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are mostly

smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt and

pepper.

> Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on lightly

toasted bread.

> Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea salad.

> User Reviews

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

[Guest guest]

No.  I haven't tried this.  I saw it and there were positive comments about it

and with all the stuff about tuna I thought people might want the recipe.  But

you are probably right, I should try them first.  I like Garbanza beans okay

but they are not my favorite.  I have tried hummus from the store and didn't

like it.  Yet at an extension service program on eating more veggies, they had

us make hummus and we really liked that very much.  Was best I've had. I don't

know why they are called both chickpeas and garbanza beans.  I usually put them

on salads at salad bars before.  

 

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: problem with tuna and a solution

 

Carolyn - have you tried this yet? I love hummus, but don't like chickpeas (I

call them garbonzo beans from living in Michigan a while) whole, like in a

3-bean salad. Let us know what you think when you can critique the taste etc.

Dona

>

>  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is a

nice alternative to tuna fish.

>

> Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

>  

> *

> Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> Ingredients:

> * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> * 2 tsp mustard

> * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> * 1 rib celery, minced

> * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> * lettuce greens

> * sliced tomato

> * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> Preparation:

> Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are mostly

smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt and

pepper.

> Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on lightly

toasted bread.

> Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea salad.

> User Reviews

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, it makes sense to find a tuna substitute. It's a shame what we are doing

to marine life. I was just looking up some information for a friend who buys a

lot of salmon, and found that Atlantic salmon is the one place not recommended

to buy from. Apparently that's where a lot of the " farmed " salmon comes from,

and the place where my Kroger market regularly gets their supply from. Little by

little, the choices are disappearing.

Dona

> >

> >  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas.  This is

a nice alternative to tuna fish.

> >

> > Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

> >  

> > *

> > Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> > Ingredients:

> > * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> > * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> > * 2 tsp mustard

> > * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> > * 1 rib celery, minced

> > * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> > * lettuce greens

> > * sliced tomato

> > * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> > Preparation:

> > Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are

mostly smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt

and pepper.

> > Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on

lightly toasted bread.

> > Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea

salad.

> > User Reviews

> > Carolyn Wilkerson

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce?  One of

the big problems with fish is Japan.  They take their  ships out and have

packing plants right on board.  They strip the oceans.   Now anything in the

Pacific could be a problem as the radiation from Japan tsunami is being found in

the tuna.  Would any of the large fish too. 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: problem with tuna and a solution

 

Well, it makes sense to find a tuna substitute. It's a shame what we are doing

to marine life. I was just looking up some information for a friend who buys a

lot of salmon, and found that Atlantic salmon is the one place not recommended

to buy from. Apparently that's where a lot of the " farmed " salmon comes from,

and the place where my Kroger market regularly gets their supply from. Little by

little, the choices are disappearing.

Dona

> >

> >  I just found this recipe as a fake tuna sandwich with chickpeas. 

This is a nice alternative to tuna fish.

> >

> > Vegetarian chickpea salad sandwich

> >  

> > *

> > Mashed chickpea salad sandwich is a healthy vegetarian sandwich that is a

little similar to a tuna sandwich.

> > Ingredients:

> > * 1 16 ounce can chickpeas

> > * 1/3 cup mayonnaise (use vegan mayonnaise for a vegan version)

> > * 2 tsp mustard

> > * 2 tbsp sweet relish

> > * 1 rib celery, minced

> > * dash salt and pepper, to taste

> > * lettuce greens

> > * sliced tomato

> > * sandwich bread (lightly toasted is best)

> > Preparation:

> > Mash together the chickpeas, mayonnaise and mustard until chickpeas are

mostly smooth but still slightly chunky. Add relish, celery, and a bit of salt

and pepper.

> > Assemble sandwiches with chickpea salad, lettuce and tomato slices on

lightly toasted bread.

> > Makes about three chickpea salad sandwiches or two servings of chickpea

salad.

> > User Reviews

> > Carolyn Wilkerson

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

No - mainly it's PCBs (see below). And a lot of the salmon coming from the

Atlantic are farmed. The following is from the Monterey Bay Aquarium's website.

They probably have not had a chance to update their " watch list " for nuclear

material, but hopefully Alaska is far enough north not to be affected. Also,

Alaskan salmon (some/all?) comes from rivers.

" Consumer Note

The majority of salmon farmed today are Atlantic salmon. A small quantity of

Pacific salmon - Chinook and coho - is also farmed. Be sure to use your pocket

guide to find the " Best Choices. " Salmon is known as sake when prepared for

sushi.

Health Alert [Health Alert]

Environmental Defense Fund has issued a health advisory for farmed salmon due to

high levels of PCBs.

Summary

One of the biggest concerns is the amount of food required to raise farmed

salmon. It generally takes three pounds of wild fish to grow one pound of farmed

salmon. The environmental impact of salmon farming is still increasing as global

production continues to rise.

Most salmon are farmed in open pens and cages in coastal waters. Waste from

these farms is released directly into the ocean. Parasites and diseases from

farmed salmon can spread to wild fish swimming near the farms and escaping

farmed salmon can harm wild populations. As a result, all salmon farmed in ocean

net pens get an " Avoid " ranking.

However, some salmon farmers are making changes to improve their practices. So

far, one change has proven successful—raising U.S. freshwater coho using inland

tank-based, closed systems. Closed systems reduce environmental risks by

containing pollution, disease, parasites and reducing fish escapes and result in

a " Best Choice " ranking.

Look for wild-caught salmon or clearly labeled U.S. farmed freshwater coho

salmon. For now, " Avoid " all other farmed salmon. "

I guess it's just more reason to replace what we can with home grown

alternatives.

Dona

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> Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

[Guest guest]

You have to be careful with fish labeled as wild CAUGHT too...many farmed fish

are CAUGHT in the wild, as spawn, but RAISED in fish farms. Sadly, they can be

labeled as wild caught-very deceptive marketing and hard to identify which is

truly caught and raised in the wild. A lot of salmon has color added to their

feed to make the flesh look more red, when in fact it is pale from being force

grown in massive unsainitary fish farms...really shocking what goes on in the

food industry. I finally quit eating any fish I don't catch myself, which is

not often, but I would rather do without!

> >

> > Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

>

[Guest guest]

If I had to catch it myself, I'd probably never eat any fish.  I liked it when

my Dad caught it and cooked it.  He would go down and fish off the dock of the

Indian River estuary from No. Hutchinson Island.  He had a boat for a while but

ended up selling it as his wife didn't want him to go out and she didn't want to

go with him.  I din't like going in the ocean at all but I loved riding on the

Indian River.  I went out on the ocean a couple of times with him in either his

boat or someone else's and I was sick as a dog every  time.  But the river was

great.  That was fun.

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:33 AM

Subject: Re: problem with tuna and a solution

 

You have to be careful with fish labeled as wild CAUGHT too...many farmed fish

are CAUGHT in the wild, as spawn, but RAISED in fish farms. Sadly, they can be

labeled as wild caught-very deceptive marketing and hard to identify which is

truly caught and raised in the wild. A lot of salmon has color added to their

feed to make the flesh look more red, when in fact it is pale from being force

grown in massive unsainitary fish farms...really shocking what goes on in the

food industry. I finally quit eating any fish I don't catch myself, which is

not often, but I would rather do without!

> >

> > Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

>

[Guest guest]

Salmon are smaller fish while Tuna are really large fish.  Evidently the larger

fish  have lived for awhile and  have more of a tendency to have accumulated

higher mercury mounts.  Since the Japanese radiation situation hasn't happened

that long ago, it looks like it would affect a number of fish and not just large

ones.  They probably take in more but don't know what  the amount of radiation

per pound of fish would be any higher unless it was in different water.  That

was why I figured the east coast and Atlantic might not haveas much radiation

while the Pacific might.  So there must be some other problem with the Salmon

then. 

 

Looks like we could make the food better rather than worse.  One doesn't know

what to eat anymore.

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:58 PM

Subject: Re: problem with tuna and a solution

 

No - mainly it's PCBs (see below). And a lot of the salmon coming from the

Atlantic are farmed. The following is from the Monterey Bay Aquarium's website.

They probably have not had a chance to update their " watch list " for nuclear

material, but hopefully Alaska is far enough north not to be affected. Also,

Alaskan salmon (some/all?) comes from rivers.

" Consumer Note

The majority of salmon farmed today are Atlantic salmon. A small quantity of

Pacific salmon - Chinook and coho - is also farmed. Be sure to use your pocket

guide to find the " Best Choices. " Salmon is known as sake when prepared for

sushi.

Health Alert [Health Alert]

Environmental Defense Fund has issued a health advisory for farmed salmon due to

high levels of PCBs.

Summary

One of the biggest concerns is the amount of food required to raise farmed

salmon. It generally takes three pounds of wild fish to grow one pound of farmed

salmon. The environmental impact of salmon farming is still increasing as global

production continues to rise.

Most salmon are farmed in open pens and cages in coastal waters. Waste from

these farms is released directly into the ocean. Parasites and diseases from

farmed salmon can spread to wild fish swimming near the farms and escaping

farmed salmon can harm wild populations. As a result, all salmon farmed in ocean

net pens get an " Avoid " ranking.

However, some salmon farmers are making changes to improve their practices. So

far, one change has proven successful—raising U.S. freshwater coho using

inland tank-based, closed systems. Closed systems reduce environmental risks by

containing pollution, disease, parasites and reducing fish escapes and result in

a " Best Choice " ranking.

Look for wild-caught salmon or clearly labeled U.S. farmed freshwater coho

salmon. For now, " Avoid " all other farmed salmon. "

I guess it's just more reason to replace what we can with home grown

alternatives.

Dona

>

> Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

[Guest guest]

The smaller fish don't make it over here from Japan - i.e., the tuna they found

had to swim over here; other fish can't/don't swim that big distance. I do also

remember reading something about some kinds of fish being able to clear

radiation from their bodies, while others do not. So, yes, with contaminants

other than radiation in the big tuna, the smaller fish are contaminated, get

eaten by the bigger fish, and it goes right on up the food chain. I lived in

southern California until more recently when I moved here to Arkansas, and we

just didn't eat fish caught off our coast - really sad.

Dona

> >

> > Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

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[Guest guest]

I LOVE the Indian River! I was a deputy with Indian River county for a couple

of years-loved to go fishing around Sebastian inlet!

>

> If I had to catch it myself, I'd probably never eat any fish.  I liked it

when my Dad caught it and cooked it.  He would go down and fish off the dock of

the Indian River estuary from No. Hutchinson Island.  He had a boat for a while

but ended up selling it as his wife didn't want him to go out and she didn't

want to go with him.  I din't like going in the ocean at all but I loved riding

on the Indian River.  I went out on the ocean a couple of times with him in

either his boat or someone else's and I was sick as a dog every  time.  But

the river was great.  That was fun.

>  

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had read those things too...the labeling should disclose - otherwise it really

has no meaning. I used to eat a lot of tilapia, then read that the majority of

it sold here actually comes from South American farms, which don't even come up

to our standards for sanitation. The info said our farms have improved, but our

packaging just says " farm raised " - no location. At least you can say you know

what is in the food you grow.

Dona

> > >

> > > Is the reason not to get Atlantic salmon because it is getting scarce? 

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