Re: Reading

[Guest guest]

Margaret, I agree. That is the way they used to teach reading until

they perfected it. Ha Ha. Cyndi B

> Hi, Everyone....Gareth was reading sight words by K-first grade.

His first

> book to read was 'Go Dog Go.' Those are the types of books that

work on word

> repetition. He has never been able to do/understand phonics. His

> comprehension came later....meaning he could read all the words in

the book but didn't

> really *understand* at first. Comprehension had to be taught,

too, by

> breaking down each sentence in the book and getting him to

understand what the

> words were saying.....does that make sense? We assume that

reading and

> comprehension go hand in hand but for many people it is not the

case....especially

> anyone with cognitive delays. Please, don't allow the schools to

tell you

> your kid can't read because he doesn't do X,Y, and Z first. Pick

up on what

> your kid knows and go from there. If we waited for Gareth to

learn phonics.....

> well, he never would have learned to read. We picked up on his

ability to

> memorize sight words and took it from there.....a little back

a**wards, but it

> worked for him.

>

> Take care, Everyone.

> Margaret

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi thank you all for your advice and encouragement Ethan maybe reading

wow I never would have thought it was even a possibility because sad to say

we never got any real useful help for him until he was eighteen but

since then he is a changed young man Everyday he blows me away with his new

accomplishments So now on to the possibility of reading can not wait

thank you Debby proud mom to Ethan 22

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[Guest guest]

hi that's a really interesting idea using the close captioning I never

thought of that Ethan loves his tapes so I will do that right away thanks

everyone Debby

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[Guest guest]

It is wonderful that you never underestimate Ethan because it is

finding that right learning channel.

Wonderful news on Ethan's accomplishments.

I too, apply the subtitles when viewing any movie, currently going

back to applying some verbal behavior approach where I use some

labeling pics, until I get some training with RPM.

does not mind me reading to him once again, since he has some

set backs, pretty auditory sensitive & too lethargic. This is where I

begin to ask him questions while he points at whatever since he lost

some of his words but it is there.

One of his favorite movies case got ruined with his compulsiveness on

the wear and tear holding it. So I swapped it with a blank case and

wrote whatever title and there are several of them, but if I ask him

to if he would like to watch whatever movie, he knows exactly which

one. He can read in his own term.

Education is a continue process.

When my son was seen by Soma, applying the RPM (Rapid Prompting

Method) and I had attend several of her workshops. I was amazed how

much she was able to get to answer her with her techniques as

is non-vocal.

Answering to mathematics, literature, science, and history which were

never taught at school.

Maybe some math & literature but to where he is at, I was pretty

impressed. My son answering or actually pointing and the last session

he was beginning to spell the correct answer on a letter board.

He was answering like the galaxy, answering correctly on some math

skills. I have it all on a DVD where I just could not believe it but

actually have proof.

As in Soma's manual " Why should any group of people be denied access

to this precious gift because of a disability, regardless of the

challenges that disability presents? It doesn't matter what the

autistic person might " do " with the education; they may never have an

independent career requiring academic achievement, although one never

knows. What matters is: who can the person with autism " be " with a

foundation in learning? "

Chapter 10: Understanding Autism through Rapid Prompting Method by

Soma Mukhopadhyay

http://www.halo-soma.org/main.php?sess_id=cfc22c420d6380323bb3213c4194d1c2

Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

> Hi thank you all for your advice and encouragement Ethan maybe

reading

> wow I never would have thought it was even a possibility because

sad to say

> we never got any real useful help for him until he was eighteen

but

> since then he is a changed young man Everyday he blows me away

with his new

> accomplishments So now on to the possibility of reading can

not wait

> thank you Debby proud mom to Ethan 22

[Guest guest]

does that too, he knows all the titles of ALL of his dvds, and he has

many, lol. I wish i was able to copy them but they have a block somehow, as I

get tired of replacing some. He is getting a tad bit better about putting

them back into the case but not lots. likes close captioning, he insists

i play one of the parts and read the words to my character and he will do his,

its quite funny, im sure he mostlyl just has all the words memorized as part of

his echolalia, can do it without the words, but its nice for him to associate

the words with his speech. shawna

 

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 8:30:59 AM

Subject: Re: reading

It is wonderful that you never underestimate Ethan because it is

finding that right learning channel.

Wonderful news on Ethan's accomplishments.

I too, apply the subtitles when viewing any movie, currently going

back to applying some verbal behavior approach where I use some

labeling pics, until I get some training with RPM.

does not mind me reading to him once again, since he has some

set backs, pretty auditory sensitive & too lethargic. This is where I

begin to ask him questions while he points at whatever since he lost

some of his words but it is there.

One of his favorite movies case got ruined with his compulsiveness on

the wear and tear holding it. So I swapped it with a blank case and

wrote whatever title and there are several of them, but if I ask him

to if he would like to watch whatever movie, he knows exactly which

one. He can read in his own term.

Education is a continue process.

When my son was seen by Soma, applying the RPM (Rapid Prompting

Method) and I had attend several of her workshops. I was amazed how

much she was able to get to answer her with her techniques as

is non-vocal.

Answering to mathematics, literature, science, and history which were

never taught at school.

Maybe some math & literature but to where he is at, I was pretty

impressed. My son answering or actually pointing and the last session

he was beginning to spell the correct answer on a letter board.

He was answering like the galaxy, answering correctly on some math

skills. I have it all on a DVD where I just could not believe it but

actually have proof.

As in Soma's manual " Why should any group of people be denied access

to this precious gift because of a disability, regardless of the

challenges that disability presents? It doesn't matter what the

autistic person might " do " with the education; they may never have an

independent career requiring academic achievement, although one never

knows. What matters is: who can the person with autism " be " with a

foundation in learning? "

Chapter 10: Understanding Autism through Rapid Prompting Method by

Soma Mukhopadhyay

http://www.halo- soma.org/ main.php? sess_id=cfc22c42 0d6380323bb3213c 4194d1c2

Irma,20, DS/ASD

>

> Hi thank you all for your advice and encouragement Ethan maybe

reading

> wow I never would have thought it was even a possibility because

sad to say

> we never got any real useful help for him until he was eighteen

but

> since then he is a changed young man Everyday he blows me away

with his new

> accomplishments So now on to the possibility of reading can

not wait

> thank you Debby proud mom to Ethan 22

[Guest guest]

>

> does that too, he knows all the titles of ALL of his dvds,

and he has many,�lol. I wish i was able to copy them but they have a

block somehow, as I get tired of replacing some. He is getting a tad

bit better about putting them�back into the case but not lots.

likes close captioning, he insists i play one of the parts and read

the words to my character and he will do his, its quite funny, im sure

he mostlyl just has all the words memorized as part of his echolalia,

can do it without the words, but its nice for him to associate the

words with his�speech. shawna

> �

> �

> �http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

On the old VHS tapes, some of the boxes ended up getting destroyed due

to the wear and tear and Blockbuster would give us their empty cases,

so I would definitely use them. Since my scanner no longer works,

ended up just writing the titles. But, he sure knew which ones.

Memories when use to echolalia then his words begin coming

right out when he use to seen by an ABA therapist who applied the

Verbal Behavior Approach.

Pretty similar to here with their top of the list interest,

totally relate.

Irma,20,DS/ASD

[Guest guest]

Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I really

would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

There are so many things I have read on this group that are just like

Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able to

leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We have

looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what were

your solutions?

Joni R.

Nick, 11

[Guest guest]

LOL, Joni, too cute.

Yes, has decreased on slamming doors but has learn which doors

he prefers still shut and a tap tap.

Oh, when out and about getting off a vehicle, makes sure he locks the

door and shut the door. He was just too fast for me when this happen

in the past.

I have had to call twice those that come an unlock the doors whether

he is in it or not. Pop-a-lock loves us, alright.

Thank goodness though for those Autism Emergency Alert stickers, have

these on my windows at home, too. So far most law enforcement involved

know about autism.

Yes, the names have been change. Many Nicks around. : )

Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

> Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

> credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I really

> would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

> There are so many things I have read on this group that are just like

> Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

>

> I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

> obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able to

> leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We

have

> looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

> control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what were

> your solutions?

>

> Joni R.

> Nick, 11

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh yes, i remember the doors, lol, jeesh that seem sages ago, it was so bad we

took the door off his bedroom for a long time, and all the doorframes and knobs

were pretty much toast, all had to be completely replaced. nathan outgrew those

behaivors. he use to do the light switches too, i use to have to  hide

them behind pictures or furniture as tape wouldnt work, lol. shawna

 

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:17:21 PM

Subject: Re: reading

Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I really

would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

There are so many things I have read on this group that are just like

Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able to

leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We have

looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what were

your solutions?

Joni R.

Nick, 11

[Guest guest]

Irma, 's ABA therapist studied under Soma. She does the verbal

approach with rapid prompting and does very well. A long time

ago I took 's movie boxs from him and cut the fronts off. I then

put them in a binder.When wants a specific movie he gets the

binder brings me the box. I play tricks on him giving him the wrong

movie and he pushes it away. If I give him the right movie he accepts

the movie. Now I am showing movies and asking him questions

about the movie. Example: Toy Story: Does Woody wear a cowboy hat or

a scarf. has to point to the correct answer. He is 97%

accurate.One good point in teaching now verbal kids to read is

eventually they can learn to type whole sentences with the reading

knowledge. How long did Soma teach ? Cyndi B

>

>

> >

> > does that too, he knows all the titles of ALL of his dvds,

> and he has many,�lol. I wish i was able to copy them but they

have a

> block somehow, as I get tired of replacing some. He is getting a tad

> bit better about putting them�back into the case but not lots.

> likes close captioning, he insists i play one of the parts and read

> the words to my character and he will do his, its quite funny, im

sure

> he mostlyl just has all the words memorized as part of his

echolalia,

> can do it without the words, but its nice for him to associate the

> words with his�speech. shawna

> > �

> > �

> > �http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

>

>

>

> On the old VHS tapes, some of the boxes ended up getting destroyed

due

> to the wear and tear and Blockbuster would give us their empty

cases,

> so I would definitely use them. Since my scanner no longer works,

> ended up just writing the titles. But, he sure knew which ones.

> Memories when use to echolalia then his words begin coming

> right out when he use to seen by an ABA therapist who applied the

> Verbal Behavior Approach.

>

> Pretty similar to here with their top of the list interest,

> totally relate.

>

>

> Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

[Guest guest]

My son Noah just started to do the slamming of the doors, before that it was

turning off/ on the lights.  I thought it was just us.  He eventually just

stopped.  I also noticed at a very young age, about 3, that he would know what

movie dvd he wanted to watch even if the dvd did not have a picture on it.  You

know how sometimes the title is written in small print going around the center

hole?  He even recognized movies this way.  Im not sure if he knows how to read,

but i wouldnt be surprised.  Leilani

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:17:21 PM

Subject: Re: reading

Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I really

would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

There are so many things I have read on this group that are just like

Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able to

leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We have

looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what were

your solutions?

Joni R.

Nick, 11

[Guest guest]

All of us start of learning to read with symbols. Look at Target,

KFC,Starbucks. When we see those symbols we know what they stand for.

If I ask my son do you want to go to Target. He gets his book and

pulls out the Target symbol. Disny is also great at matching the

writing of the movie title on the outside box to the actual VHS tape

box. Like NEMO was written on the movie and the box the same.

Yesterday who is non-veral spoke the letter " T " . The ABA

therapist wrote the word hat down and she was spelling out H,A, and

before she said the letter " T " said it. Wow she looked at me and

said did he just say " T " and I said yes he did. Proup moment for

momma and therapist. The therapist or myself have never spelled hat

or wrote the word hat for him. This was amazing. is paying

attention. Cyndi B

>

> My son Noah just started to do the slamming of the doors, before

that it was turning off/ on the lights.  I thought it was just us. 

He eventually just stopped.  I also noticed at a very young age,

about 3, that he would know what movie dvd he wanted to watch even if

the dvd did not have a picture on it.  You know how sometimes the

title is written in small print going around the center hole?  He

even recognized movies this way.  Im not sure if he knows how to

read, but i wouldnt be surprised.  Leilani

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:17:21 PM

> Subject: Re: reading

>

>

> Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

> credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I

really

> would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

> There are so many things I have read on this group that are just

like

> Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

>

> I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

> obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able

to

> leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We

have

> looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

> control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what

were

> your solutions?

>

> Joni R.

> Nick, 11

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyndi,

understands and is learning, he just couldn't tell you. I hope his teacher

is working on reading. has already demonstrated that he can distinguish

functional symbols. He needs to be exposed to literacy and taught to read. Good

for .

Charlyne

Subject: Re: reading

To:

Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:52 PM

All of us start of learning to read with symbols. Look at Target,

KFC,Starbucks. When we see those symbols we know what they stand for.

If I ask my son do you want to go to Target. He gets his book and

pulls out the Target symbol. Disny is also great at matching the

writing of the movie title on the outside box to the actual VHS tape

box. Like NEMO was written on the movie and the box the same.

Yesterday who is non-veral spoke the letter " T " . The ABA

therapist wrote the word hat down and she was spelling out H,A, and

before she said the letter " T " said it. Wow she looked at me and

said did he just say " T " and I said yes he did. Proup moment for

momma and therapist. The therapist or myself have never spelled hat

or wrote the word hat for him. This was amazing. is paying

attention. Cyndi B

>

> My son Noah just started to do the slamming of the doors, before

that it was turning off/ on the lights.  I thought it was just us. 

He eventually just stopped.  I also noticed at a very young age,

about 3, that he would know what movie dvd he wanted to watch even if

the dvd did not have a picture on it.  You know how sometimes the

title is written in small print going around the center hole?  He

even recognized movies this way.  Im not sure if he knows how to

read, but i wouldnt be surprised.  Leilani

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> To: @yahoogrou ps.com

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:17:21 PM

> Subject: Re: reading

>

>

> Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

> credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I

really

> would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

> There are so many things I have read on this group that are just

like

> Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

>

> I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

> obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being able

to

> leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling. We

have

> looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

> control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what

were

> your solutions?

>

> Joni R.

> Nick, 11

>

>

[Guest guest]

Charlyne, This year at school I love the way the teacher is teaching

reading,etc. But the best moments are with this ABA therpist. I love

what she does with him. Sorry about all the typos in my last

message.I knew all along my little boy could do more that what he was

doing and he is proving mommy right all the time. You have to believe

and it can happen. (1) year ago would not even attempt to try

new things but now that he is feeling better he is making huge leaps.

Proud momma here. Thanks Cyndi B

>

> Hi Cyndi,

> understands and is learning, he just couldn't tell you. I hope

his teacher is working on reading. has already demonstrated that

he can distinguish functional symbols. He needs to be exposed to

literacy and taught to read. Good for .

> Charlyne

>

>

>

> Subject: Re: reading

> To:

> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:52 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> All of us start of learning to read with symbols. Look

at Target,

>

> KFC,Starbucks. When we see those symbols we know what they stand

for.

>

> If I ask my son do you want to go to Target. He gets his book and

>

> pulls out the Target symbol. Disny is also great at matching the

>

> writing of the movie title on the outside box to the actual VHS

tape

>

> box. Like NEMO was written on the movie and the box the same.

>

> Yesterday who is non-veral spoke the letter " T " . The ABA

>

> therapist wrote the word hat down and she was spelling out H,A, and

>

> before she said the letter " T " said it. Wow she looked at me

and

>

> said did he just say " T " and I said yes he did. Proup moment for

>

> momma and therapist. The therapist or myself have never spelled hat

>

> or wrote the word hat for him. This was amazing. is paying

>

> attention. Cyndi B

>

> >

>

> > My son Noah just started to do the slamming of the doors, before

>

> that it was turning off/ on the lights.  I thought it was just us. 

>

> He eventually just stopped.  I also noticed at a very young age,

>

> about 3, that he would know what movie dvd he wanted to watch even

if

>

> the dvd did not have a picture on it.  You know how sometimes the

>

> title is written in small print going around the center hole?  He

>

> even recognized movies this way.  Im not sure if he knows how to

>

> read, but i wouldnt be surprised.  Leilani

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > From: Joni <pcjoni@>

>

> > To: @yahoogrou ps.com

>

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:17:21 PM

>

> > Subject: Re: reading

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Darn, all this time, I thought Nick was " special " , " reading " the

>

> > credits, his vhs tapes, etc.! Now it seems everyone does it! I

>

> really

>

> > would not be surprised to find out he does know how to " read " !

>

> > There are so many things I have read on this group that are just

>

> like

>

> > Nick, I am amazed. I had thought it was unique to Nick.

>

> >

>

> > I have read some things about shutting/slamming doors, how about

>

> > obsession with commercial doors, shutting, hitting, not being

able

>

> to

>

> > leave, just obsessing with the door, to the point of trembling.

We

>

> have

>

> > looked at it as a behavior, but I am not sure Nick really has any

>

> > control over this at time. Anyone with similar situations, what

>

> were

>

> > your solutions?

>

> >

>

> > Joni R.

>

> > Nick, 11

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Cyndi, this ABA therapist is such a keeper and knows RPM.

This is really wonderful, really happy for to have such a

therapist working with y'all.

Soma only worked with for about 8 sessions. Have not returned

for the sake when there was an opening since we are on the

cancellation list, most of the time it happen when has his

treatments at the clinic at the same time.

I would love to have an ABA therapist, VB with RPM this rocks!

Demands are not in placed, it is working around where needed.

I am planning on attending when I can to one of her training camp.

Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

> Irma, 's ABA therapist studied under Soma. She does the verbal

> approach with rapid prompting and does very well. A long time

> ago I took 's movie boxs from him and cut the fronts off. I then

> put them in a binder.When wants a specific movie he gets the

> binder brings me the box. I play tricks on him giving him the wrong

> movie and he pushes it away. If I give him the right movie he accepts

> the movie. Now I am showing movies and asking him questions

> about the movie. Example: Toy Story: Does Woody wear a cowboy hat or

> a scarf. has to point to the correct answer. He is 97%

> accurate.One good point in teaching now verbal kids to read is

> eventually they can learn to type whole sentences with the reading

> knowledge. How long did Soma teach ? Cyndi B

[Guest guest]

Irma, 's therapist said back when she studied under her it was

alot easier to do. I do feel lucky. I just got another $1,000 grant

to keep her coming. I do feel lucky. How far do you have to travel to

Soma when you do go? Cyndi B

>

> Cyndi, this ABA therapist is such a keeper and knows RPM.

> This is really wonderful, really happy for to have such a

> therapist working with y'all.

> Soma only worked with for about 8 sessions. Have not returned

> for the sake when there was an opening since we are on the

> cancellation list, most of the time it happen when has his

> treatments at the clinic at the same time.

> I would love to have an ABA therapist, VB with RPM this rocks!

> Demands are not in placed, it is working around where needed.

>

> I am planning on attending when I can to one of her training camp.

>

>

> Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Irma, 's ABA therapist studied under Soma. She does the

verbal

> > approach with rapid prompting and does very well. A long

time

> > ago I took 's movie boxs from him and cut the fronts off. I

then

> > put them in a binder.When wants a specific movie he gets the

> > binder brings me the box. I play tricks on him giving him the

wrong

> > movie and he pushes it away. If I give him the right movie he

accepts

> > the movie. Now I am showing movies and asking him questions

> > about the movie. Example: Toy Story: Does Woody wear a cowboy hat

or

> > a scarf. has to point to the correct answer. He is 97%

> > accurate.One good point in teaching now verbal kids to read is

> > eventually they can learn to type whole sentences with the

reading

> > knowledge. How long did Soma teach ? Cyndi B

>

[Guest guest]

Mic reads somethings his teacher makes him 3 word paper books and each week we

use them in school and at home, he likes to read with us, I know he recognizes

the words but I dont know if he recognizes action.If he gets overwhelmed with

one I go back and he will bring me them. His first little book was " I Can Go " He

loves this one but I dont think he knows what I can go means, 4 words however

are to overwhelming for him.He recognizes numbers 1 thru 10 to but I dont think

he gets the concept yet!Although he amazes me at the things I dont know he knows

all the time. Laurie

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> Irma, 's therapist said back when she studied under her it was

> alot easier to do. I do feel lucky. I just got another $1,000 grant

> to keep her coming. I do feel lucky. How far do you have to travel to

> Soma when you do go? Cyndi B

Cyndi, this is wonderful, this deserves a happy dance, congratulations.

Every cent counts. Lucky indeed, such Blessings.

Irma