Re: Jumping rope Pros/Cons

[Guest guest]

I'm thinking that I don't know if the skipping can provide for a

maximum heart rate although with some variations there seemed to be a

" high " level of exertion.

About skipping I'm thinking that it may be possible to have a high

level of exertion by using one leg but it not being so taxing on the

respiratory system due to the lack of muscle mass being exercised.

This reminds me of a study (http://www.sciencedaily.com/

releases/2006/11/061108102523.htm) Weyand did where one limb being

exercised either could be exercised at a greater intensity or longer

because the demands made on the aerobic pathways could supplement the

anaerobic to a greater degree. It appears to me that with less

muscle mass being exercised you get a more intense stimulus and

hopefully adaptation locally but less systemically. Does anyone have

any information on what is the more limiting, local muscle's ability

to live in a highly anaerobic environment or the cardiovascular

system? Is the role of the cardiovascular system with respect to

performance to help provide a greater aerobic pathways to supplement

the muscles anaerobic requirements and how is it best to develop

both. It would seem that the one protocol for one is not the best

for the other.

Teri Pokere

Brisbane, Australia

> > Firstly can it provide for a very

> > > intense exercise when I've worked up to that level of course?

I'm

> > > hoping that it could be used in a interval Tabita type fashion.

>

> Greetings,

>

> Intensity is determined by effect -- does it bring your heart rate

to

> the desired level in the desired time. In my XYZ interval program

the

> heart rate must reach max in 3 interval cycles and reached 2 more

> times before 10 minutes of 80% heart rate is maintained. Exercise

> intensity is adjusted to that function -- either in effort or time.

>

> Thirty seconds of hippity hop jump ropes is hardly the same as 30

> seconds of on the ground (not treadmill) sprinting, squat jumps,

car

> pushes on the inclined treadmill or all out wrestling for the same

> amount of time.

>

> what did Tabita use?

>

> Jerry Telle

> Lakewood CO USA

>

[Guest guest]

Generic question.

Regarding training for what event ? Special endurance in 100m ? 5Km ?

Marathon ?

For middle distance and up its of utmost importance to have a very

well developed mitochondrial capacity in the muscles. You can see that

as competitive distance increases, respiratory capacity of muscles

becomes slowly the limiting factor.

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The following part is not addressed to any poster in particular:

In training energy systems of the body, it is best to cease obsessing

about " intensity " and " tabata " . What is important to understand is:

1. Each competition event has a specific energetic regime.

Understanding what energy systems are involved and the limiting

factors in delivering energy is paramount.

2. Base energy system protocols on the knowledge of above. If you are

the anti-science guy type, at least, you should be able to observe

your sport, identify the work / rest durations, muscles involved,

motor patterns, and build training protocols accordingly. Your results

will far surpass the results of a blind " Tabata protocol " guy.

ly , I never seen so many ppl obsessed with a single training

protocol than 'tabata' guys. It even surpasses the HIT crowd. Most of

them in fact have no idea what Tabata researched, and for what sport.

It doesn't matter , they think they found the holy grail.

3. Always keep in mind that recovery processes (both after work or

competition , and between work rounds in competition (time between

boxing rounds for example))are essentially aerobic processes.

4. " intensity " is not always your friend.

5. Know what adaptations can be trained simultaneously.

6. Know that some adaptations may have an adverse effect on other

adaptations. Find out whats important and balance accordingly.

Dan Partelly

Oradea, Romania

>It appears to me that with less

> muscle mass being exercised you get a more intense stimulus and

> hopefully adaptation locally but less systemically. Does anyone have

> any information on what is the more limiting, local muscle's ability

> to live in a highly anaerobic environment or the cardiovascular

> system? Is the role of the cardiovascular system with respect to

> performance to help provide a greater aerobic pathways to supplement

> the muscles anaerobic requirements and how is it best to develop

> both. It would seem that the one protocol for one is not the best

> for the other.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent post Dan. You summed some of the basic tenets of training very well.

I agree with your assessment of the Tabatha protocol and its limited use in

training.

Ralph Giarnella MD

Southington Ct USA

>

> Subject: Re: Jumping rope Pros/Cons

> To: Supertraining

> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 11:47 AM

> Generic question.

>

> Regarding training for what event ? Special endurance in

> 100m ? 5Km ?

> Marathon ?

>

> For middle distance and up its of utmost importance to have

> a very

> well developed mitochondrial capacity in the muscles. You

> can see that

> as competitive distance increases, respiratory capacity of

> muscles

> becomes slowly the limiting factor.

>

> ---------------------------

>

> The following part is not addressed to any poster in

> particular:

>

> In training energy systems of the body, it is best to

> cease obsessing

> about " intensity " and " tabata " . What

> is important to understand is:

>

> 1. Each competition event has a specific energetic regime.

> Understanding what energy systems are involved and the

> limiting

> factors in delivering energy is paramount.

>

> 2. Base energy system protocols on the knowledge of above.

> If you are

> the anti-science guy type, at least, you should be able to

> observe

> your sport, identify the work / rest durations, muscles

> involved,

> motor patterns, and build training protocols accordingly.

> Your results

> will far surpass the results of a blind " Tabata

> protocol " guy.

>

> ly , I never seen so many ppl obsessed with a single

> training

> protocol than 'tabata' guys. It even surpasses the

> HIT crowd. Most of

> them in fact have no idea what Tabata researched, and for

> what sport.

> It doesn't matter , they think they found the holy

> grail.

>

> 3. Always keep in mind that recovery processes (both after

> work or

> competition , and between work rounds in competition (time

> between

> boxing rounds for example))are essentially aerobic

> processes.

>

> 4. " intensity " is not always your friend.

>

> 5. Know what adaptations can be trained simultaneously.

>

> 6. Know that some adaptations may have an adverse effect on

> other

> adaptations. Find out whats important and balance

> accordingly.

>

>

> Dan Partelly

> Oradea, Romania

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >It appears to me that with less

> > muscle mass being exercised you get a more intense

> stimulus and

> > hopefully adaptation locally but less systemically.

> Does anyone have

> > any information on what is the more limiting, local

> muscle's ability

> > to live in a highly anaerobic environment or the

> cardiovascular

> > system? Is the role of the cardiovascular system with

> respect to

> > performance to help provide a greater aerobic pathways

> to supplement

> > the muscles anaerobic requirements and how is it best

> to develop

> > both. It would seem that the one protocol for one is

> not the best

> > for the other.

> >

> >