Re: The obsession with dangling

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Wow! I can relate to the " dangling " issues...Aubrey (10 dstr21, Hearing

Impaired. PDDNOS) would dangle socks (esp SOCCER socks) if she was allowed, a

great part of the day if allowed. So much need for the visual stim...

Last night we were at my brother's. She actually didn't seek out any socks, and

I was amazed...until she found a power cord to dangle. Extremely resourceful...

Anyone given an appropriate " replacement " behavior? We're still pretty new to

this and OT is researching such...

Desi McKenzie

Subject: Re: diganosis

To:

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:43 PM

My son is 5 1/2 and was diagnosed almost a year ago with asd. I think

the main thing where I started thinking something is different with

him is the stimming. He was obsessed with electronic/music toys, and

also anything dangly like belts or strings and he would just dangle

them for hours if allowed.

But on the other hand he is also very loving(mainly only toward his

family and people he knows well)and loves kisses and hugs and will

maintain eye contact with us. However, anyone he doesn't know, it is

like they are not even there, he will not even acknowledge. He also

does not play with or acknowledge his peers, although this past year

he has gotten a little better, he still does not really play WITH

them, he is just starting to notice them more. Another thing his OT

at school said was kind of related to the autism spectrum was how

much he loves numbers and letters. Anything to do with the alphabet

or counting and he tunes right into it ( this was something I

discovered by accident, I had no clue how well or fast he responded

with learning the alphabet and numbers). Speech wise he is

progressing, although defintely very delayed. He uses signs also.

The stimming is still our biggest issue, along with his lack of

interaction with his teachers and peers. He isn't so obsessed with

his electronic toys anymore(I really am surprised that he isn't, I

didn't think there was an end in sight:)-but with anything dangly-

belt, string, floppy stuffed animal, etc, he will find a way to stim

with it. Sometimes I just let him, sometimes I try to redirect him.

I had many people tell me that he wasnt on the spectrum, but after

comparing a 'typical' child with DS and my child, there are lots of

differences. Hope this helps a little!

(mom to Ethan-5 y/o with ds/asd

[Guest guest]

also has the dangling obsession. Using behavior therapy we have gotten

nathan to understand when he is allowed to dangle or when his shoestrings need

to be in his pocket. As for family visiting, we allow it if wanted as keeps him

calm and quiet so we can acutally visit. Even the others know not to mess with

nathan when he has the strings pulled out. As he has gotten older I have noticed

he will even visit a little or play with some of the toys available until kids

get too noisy or rambunctious, then he goes to grandma's room and pulls out his

danglies, lol or now its nice outside, he will go sit on her swing. shawna

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody!

My son has dangled Woody from Toy Story ever since it came on the market. I

should have bought stock in the company. At age 16, Woody is still a

constant companion. Woody has been a God send when visiting the doctors and

meeting new people. You gotta go through Woody to get to ! I have many a

Woody in various states of amputation. The one he loves at this moment has no

head and no feet. He loves it and won't part with it though I have bribed him

with a new Woody for months now. He's painfully loved and will sit in my

purse while in a restaurant thank goodness. dangles Woody every waking

moment. He uses Woody to interact with movies he likes. I get a kick out

watching with Woody when the Three Stooges are on. of course,

plays

the part of Moe!

Take care all,

Judy

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[Guest guest]

> Yes, Ethan also is very resourceful at finding things to dangle. He

will run into our bedroom if he is desperate and look for socks or a

belt or tights. His floppy stuffed toys are a favorite also. Depending

on what kind of day he has had(i.e. how much stimming has he done)Iwill

let him do it for awhile. It doesn't take too much to redirect him,

sometimes we will read books or go play outside, or even put in a movie

if I feel he is just doing it too much. I also noticed that when he

gets where he is needing alot of sensory stimulation or maybe has had

too much(I'm not surewhich it is sometimes)lightly giving him a massage

really calms him.

But it seems like it has gotten more managable since I first really

started noticing it a couple of years ago, I guess we have just started

figring out ways to redirect if needed, although I know sometimes he

just needs to do it. I am always looking for ideas/experiences related

to this also!

[Guest guest]

My also dangles socks and cords and has to have one in each hand

but socks are her favorite. She also has to have them the same way and hold

them from the same spot.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Desi McKenzie

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:21 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

Wow! I can relate to the " dangling " issues...Aubrey (10 dstr21, Hearing

Impaired. PDDNOS) would dangle socks (esp SOCCER socks) if she was allowed,

a great part of the day if allowed. So much need for the visual stim...

Last night we were at my brother's. She actually didn't seek out any socks,

and I was amazed...until she found a power cord to dangle. Extremely

resourceful...

Anyone given an appropriate " replacement " behavior? We're still pretty new

to this and OT is researching such...

Desi McKenzie

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Subject: Re: diganosis

To: @yahoogrou <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:43 PM

My son is 5 1/2 and was diagnosed almost a year ago with asd. I think

the main thing where I started thinking something is different with

him is the stimming. He was obsessed with electronic/music toys, and

also anything dangly like belts or strings and he would just dangle

them for hours if allowed.

But on the other hand he is also very loving(mainly only toward his

family and people he knows well)and loves kisses and hugs and will

maintain eye contact with us. However, anyone he doesn't know, it is

like they are not even there, he will not even acknowledge. He also

does not play with or acknowledge his peers, although this past year

he has gotten a little better, he still does not really play WITH

them, he is just starting to notice them more. Another thing his OT

at school said was kind of related to the autism spectrum was how

much he loves numbers and letters. Anything to do with the alphabet

or counting and he tunes right into it ( this was something I

discovered by accident, I had no clue how well or fast he responded

with learning the alphabet and numbers). Speech wise he is

progressing, although defintely very delayed. He uses signs also.

The stimming is still our biggest issue, along with his lack of

interaction with his teachers and peers. He isn't so obsessed with

his electronic toys anymore(I really am surprised that he isn't, I

didn't think there was an end in sight:)-but with anything dangly-

belt, string, floppy stuffed animal, etc, he will find a way to stim

with it. Sometimes I just let him, sometimes I try to redirect him.

I had many people tell me that he wasnt on the spectrum, but after

comparing a 'typical' child with DS and my child, there are lots of

differences. Hope this helps a little!

(mom to Ethan-5 y/o with ds/asd

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My son also loves to dangle Woody from Toy story, there is something about the

Toy Story movies that he loves. I had to laugh when you said you have Woody in

various stages of amputation...My son Cole loves to throw things for the sound

we have a Buzz that has no arms or legs, he is just a stump and a head! He does

still day " Buzz Lightyear to the rescue! " He refuses to part with the toy.

To: @...: judykeller@...: Fri, 27 Jun 2008

22:00:06 -0400Subject: Re: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

Hi everybody!My son has dangled Woody from Toy Story ever since it came on the

market. I should have bought stock in the company. At age 16, Woody is still a

constant companion. Woody has been a God send when visiting the doctors and

meeting new people. You gotta go through Woody to get to ! I have many a

Woody in various states of amputation. The one he loves at this moment has no

head and no feet. He loves it and won't part with it though I have bribed him

with a new Woody for months now. He's painfully loved and will sit in my purse

while in a restaurant thank goodness. dangles Woody every waking moment.

He uses Woody to interact with movies he likes. I get a kick out watching

with Woody when the Three Stooges are on. of course, plays the part of

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What is it with WOODY?!?!?!? Aubrey loves Woody, too!!! We have one (the soft

one from the Disney store) and actually put it into a zippered pillowcase and

wash it in the washer on a gentle cycle because she plays with it so much! We

try to have her have Woody walk on his legs instead of dangle him-the poor toy.

I even bought a brand new one that I just found hiding in my drawer as a

back-up...I had forgot about it. HA!

Another young lady 11, who has DS, one of our AYSO VIP Miracles! also carried a

WOODY doll wherever she went!

This may be one for researchers to explore!!!!!!!!!!!!

Desi

>

> Subject: RE: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

> To:

> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 5:10 PM

> My son also loves to dangle Woody from Toy story, there is

> something about the Toy Story movies that he loves. I had

> to laugh when you said you have Woody in various stages of

> amputation...My son Cole loves to throw things for the

> sound we have a Buzz that has no arms or legs, he is just

> a stump and a head! He does still day " Buzz Lightyear

> to the rescue! " He refuses to part with the toy.

>

>

> To: @...: judykeller@...:

> Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:00:06 -0400Subject: Re: Re:

> The obsession with " dangling "

>

>

>

>

> Hi everybody!My son has dangled Woody from Toy Story ever

> since it came on the market. I should have bought stock in

> the company. At age 16, Woody is still a constant

> companion. Woody has been a God send when visiting the

> doctors and meeting new people. You gotta go through Woody

> to get to ! I have many a Woody in various states of

> amputation. The one he loves at this moment has no head and

> no feet. He loves it and won't part with it though I

> have bribed him with a new Woody for months now. He's

> painfully loved and will sit in my purse while in a

> restaurant thank goodness. dangles Woody every waking

> moment. He uses Woody to interact with movies he likes. I

> get a kick out watching with Woody when the Three

> Stooges are on. of course, plays the part of Moe!

> Take care all,Judy**************Gas prices getting you

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Sounds exactly like what Aubrey does...TWO of them when she can!

Desi

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Subject: Re: diganosis

To: @yahoogrou <mailto:% 40yahoogroups. com> ps.com

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:43 PM

My son is 5 1/2 and was diagnosed almost a year ago with asd. I think

the main thing where I started thinking something is different with

him is the stimming. He was obsessed with electronic/music toys, and

also anything dangly like belts or strings and he would just dangle

them for hours if allowed.

But on the other hand he is also very loving(mainly only toward his

family and people he knows well)and loves kisses and hugs and will

maintain eye contact with us. However, anyone he doesn't know, it is

like they are not even there, he will not even acknowledge. He also

does not play with or acknowledge his peers, although this past year

he has gotten a little better, he still does not really play WITH

them, he is just starting to notice them more. Another thing his OT

at school said was kind of related to the autism spectrum was how

much he loves numbers and letters. Anything to do with the alphabet

or counting and he tunes right into it ( this was something I

discovered by accident, I had no clue how well or fast he responded

with learning the alphabet and numbers). Speech wise he is

progressing, although defintely very delayed. He uses signs also.

The stimming is still our biggest issue, along with his lack of

interaction with his teachers and peers. He isn't so obsessed with

his electronic toys anymore(I really am surprised that he isn't, I

didn't think there was an end in sight:)-but with anything dangly-

belt, string, floppy stuffed animal, etc, he will find a way to stim

with it. Sometimes I just let him, sometimes I try to redirect him.

I had many people tell me that he wasnt on the spectrum, but after

comparing a 'typical' child with DS and my child, there are lots of

differences. Hope this helps a little!

(mom to Ethan-5 y/o with ds/asd

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You might want to check ebay for Woody toys- here is the tinyurl link

(you might have to copy and paste the link) to a quick search I did

that yielded nearly 800 items:

http://tinyurl.com/6ls57p

Good luck with keeping up with the toy obsessions. Twice I found

necessary items for my son on ebay from England- one was a baby

Godzilla rubber puppet head with movable arms- he had ripped the arms

off his first one. The other thing I found was Sully from Monsters

Inc. that could act as a motion detector. He adored that toy. Boy, is

it ever hard to get rid of things he has outgrown (or no longer

obsesses over) when I have gone to such great lengths to find them, LOL!

Beth, Pete's Mum (Age 17++++ ) Central Ohio

>

>

> In a message dated 6/28/2008 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> hgiglio@... writes:

>

> My son Jake (9) just started watching Toy Story and we have our

first Woody

> doll as of this week. Let me tell you that he was not easy to find.

I also

> have a friend sending me other Toy Story paraphanelia (ms). This

morning

[Guest guest]

Bought both of Aubrey's Woody dolls at the Disney Store.

Subject: Re: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

To:

Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:00 AM

In a message dated 6/28/2008 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

hgiglioearthlink (DOT) net writes:

My son Jake (9) just started watching Toy Story and we have our first Woody

doll as of this week. Let me tell you that he was not easy to find. I also

have a friend sending me other Toy Story paraphanelia (ms). This morning

Jakes used Woody's hands to sign eat. He also takes Woody and rides him

down our stair railing, just like inthe movie. I notice he is repeating

more and more of the phrases from Toy Story and he LOVES the You Got a

Friend in Me song.

Holly

Good Morning Holly!

The only place I have found the Woody doll is at Toys R Us. They sell it in

a package that includes the Jessie doll. was dangling Jessie for a

while and has several of her lying around, however Woody is still #1. I think

they also have them at the Disney stores.

Have a great day!

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isn't into dangling things but he likes woody and it is the

only animated show he will watch.

AFter years of dealing with modifying behavior I have some words for

thought. Every behavior meets a need. And every behaviior will be

replaced with another " behavior " . So when deciding how to address an

issue make sure you know what you want them to do instead and find

ways to meet the need they were fulfilling with the behavior you want

to limit or eliminate.

Easier said than done.

Karyn

>

>

> Subject: Re: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

> To:

> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 4:00 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 6/28/2008 9:03:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> hgiglioearthlink (DOT) net writes:

>

> My son Jake (9) just started watching Toy Story and we have our

first Woody

> doll as of this week. Let me tell you that he was not easy to find.

I also

> have a friend sending me other Toy Story paraphanelia (ms). This

morning

> Jakes used Woody's hands to sign eat. He also takes Woody and rides

him

> down our stair railing, just like inthe movie. I notice he is

repeating

> more and more of the phrases from Toy Story and he LOVES the You

Got a

> Friend in Me song.

>

> Holly

>

> Good Morning Holly!

>

> The only place I have found the Woody doll is at Toys R Us. They

sell it in

> a package that includes the Jessie doll. was dangling Jessie

for a

> while and has several of her lying around, however Woody is still

#1. I think

> they also have them at the Disney stores.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Judy

>

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hehe, i hate it when nathan gets our robe belts, uuuugh. lol shawna

To: @...: carriedurbin@...: Fri, 27 Jun 2008

22:09:06 +0000Subject: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

> Yes, Ethan also is very resourceful at finding things to dangle. He will run

into our bedroom if he is desperate and look for socks or a belt or tights. His

floppy stuffed toys are a favorite also. Depending on what kind of day he has

had(i.e. how much stimming has he done)Iwill let him do it for awhile. It

doesn't take too much to redirect him, sometimes we will read books or go play

outside, or even put in a movie if I feel he is just doing it too much. I also

noticed that when he gets where he is needing alot of sensory stimulation or

maybe has had too much(I'm not surewhich it is sometimes)lightly giving him a

massage really calms him. But it seems like it has gotten more managable since I

first really started noticing it a couple of years ago, I guess we have just

started figring out ways to redirect if needed, although I know sometimes he

just needs to do it. I am always looking for ideas/experiences related to this

also!

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heheeh i wonder what it is with woody? He has also been a companion of s

since it came out, I buy one or two everyyear for birthdays and christmas soon

they may not make anymore, have to keep his supply in surplus, lol. shawna

To: @...: judykeller@...: Fri, 27 Jun 2008

22:00:06 -0400Subject: Re: Re: The obsession with " dangling "

Hi everybody!My son has dangled Woody from Toy Story ever since it came on the

market. I should have bought stock in the company. At age 16, Woody is still a

constant companion. Woody has been a God send when visiting the doctors and

meeting new people. You gotta go through Woody to get to ! I have many a

Woody in various states of amputation. The one he loves at this moment has no

head and no feet. He loves it and won't part with it though I have bribed him

with a new Woody for months now. He's painfully loved and will sit in my purse

while in a restaurant thank goodness. dangles Woody every waking moment.

He uses Woody to interact with movies he likes. I get a kick out watching

with Woody when the Three Stooges are on. of course, plays the part of

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Too funny! Robe belts are one of Ethan's favorites!