Re: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

August 2, 2008

I'd call the cardiologist. My son's did this as a babe (he has no repaired

defect but is followed for an asymtomatic defect) but if I saw it today, I'd be

in the clinic that day.

Of course, I'm paranoid as I work for a pediatric cardiologist

Kim

Subject: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

To:

Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

this? Cyndi B

August 2, 2008

My daughter Amy, 4 had a VSD repair in 2004 so I too am always concerned about

blue nails, lips etc. so when her feet seemed to be turning purple a lot I asked

her ped about it and she said it was poor circulation. At her yearly app't with

the heart doc I asked again and they said the same thing. They had done an echo

and ecg and everything looked good so that relieved me. She was also in the

hospital for a month with severe pneumonia and I asked every doc that came in

about it and they all told me it was poor circulation. Children with down

syndrome tend to have purple extremeties sometimes. I still ask every doc we

see about it though and always get the same response. Her feet tend to be

purple after her naps where she has been laying down and is usually folded in

half. Also they are more purple in the winter months when she is cold. Her

feet are always cold too.

Hope this makes you feel a little better although if you are really worried

then make an app't with your heart doc just to ease your mind but I am sure it

will be the same answer.

Ali

wrote:

Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

this? Cyndi B

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August 2, 2008

One way to make you feel better about poor circulation is to check the

pulses - behind the knee, over the ankle bone (it takes a little

searching), and on the bony part of the foot where the ankle joins the

foot. That will tell you that blood IS getting thru. Also, does it go away

when he is more vertical? Does it go away in the bath? All these are signs

that there is blood flow. Does he cry as if he is in pain from his feet?

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Van Straaten <

ali_van_straaten@...> wrote:

> My daughter Amy, 4 had a VSD repair in 2004 so I too am always concerned

> about blue nails, lips etc. so when her feet seemed to be turning purple a

> lot I asked her ped about it and she said it was poor circulation. At her

> yearly app't with the heart doc I asked again and they said the same thing.

> They had done an echo and ecg and everything looked good so that relieved

> me. She was also in the hospital for a month with severe pneumonia and I

> asked every doc that came in about it and they all told me it was poor

> circulation. Children with down syndrome tend to have purple extremeties

> sometimes. I still ask every doc we see about it though and always get the

> same response. Her feet tend to be purple after her naps where she has been

> laying down and is usually folded in half. Also they are more purple in the

> winter months when she is cold. Her feet are always cold too.

>

> Hope this makes you feel a little better although if you are really worried

> then make an app't with your heart doc just to ease your mind but I am sure

> it will be the same answer.

>

> Ali

>

> <cynthiamiltonburns@... <cynthiamiltonburns%40yahoo.com>>

> wrote:

> Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

> it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

> problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

> and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

> for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> this? Cyndi B

>

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August 2, 2008

, 5, gets this all the time. She had VSD repaired June 2003. All

tests are good. I asked the cardio and he said its okay, nothing to

worry about. But it has worried staff that works with her, her feet,

hands get almost black! If you are worried, I would contact the

office, just to make sure.

>

> Subject: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

> To:

> Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

>

> Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

> it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

> problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

> and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

> for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> this? Cyndi B

>

August 2, 2008

Yes it does go away in the tub but even when he stands up his feet

are purple and hands to. Could the Diflucan cause this? This is an

antifungal med. Cyndi

>

> One way to make you feel better about poor circulation is to check

the

> pulses - behind the knee, over the ankle bone (it takes a little

> searching), and on the bony part of the foot where the ankle joins

the

> foot. That will tell you that blood IS getting thru. Also, does

it go away

> when he is more vertical? Does it go away in the bath? All these

are signs

> that there is blood flow. Does he cry as if he is in pain from his

feet?

>

> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Van Straaten <

> ali_van_straaten@...> wrote:

>

> > My daughter Amy, 4 had a VSD repair in 2004 so I too am always

concerned

> > about blue nails, lips etc. so when her feet seemed to be turning

purple a

> > lot I asked her ped about it and she said it was poor

circulation. At her

> > yearly app't with the heart doc I asked again and they said the

same thing.

> > They had done an echo and ecg and everything looked good so that

relieved

> > me. She was also in the hospital for a month with severe

pneumonia and I

> > asked every doc that came in about it and they all told me it was

poor

> > circulation. Children with down syndrome tend to have purple

extremeties

> > sometimes. I still ask every doc we see about it though and

always get the

> > same response. Her feet tend to be purple after her naps where

she has been

> > laying down and is usually folded in half. Also they are more

purple in the

> > winter months when she is cold. Her feet are always cold too.

> >

> > Hope this makes you feel a little better although if you are

really worried

> > then make an app't with your heart doc just to ease your mind but

I am sure

> > it will be the same answer.

> >

> > Ali

> >

> > <cynthiamiltonburns@... <cynthiamiltonburns%40yahoo.com>>

> > wrote:

> > Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr.

yesterday if

> > it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a

circulation

> > problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of

2003

> > and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said

watch

> > for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> > this? Cyndi B

> >

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August 2, 2008

Ali, You said like me. I have always asked every Doc that I can in

contact with also about his feet but they seem more blue/purple for

longer periods of time. We are going to KKI Monday so I am going to

ask them. Cyndi B

>

> My daughter Amy, 4 had a VSD repair in 2004 so I too am always

concerned about blue nails, lips etc. so when her feet seemed to be

turning purple a lot I asked her ped about it and she said it was

poor circulation. At her yearly app't with the heart doc I asked

again and they said the same thing. They had done an echo and ecg

and everything looked good so that relieved me. She was also in the

hospital for a month with severe pneumonia and I asked every doc that

came in about it and they all told me it was poor circulation.

Children with down syndrome tend to have purple extremeties

sometimes. I still ask every doc we see about it though and always

get the same response. Her feet tend to be purple after her naps

where she has been laying down and is usually folded in half. Also

they are more purple in the winter months when she is cold. Her feet

are always cold too.

>

> Hope this makes you feel a little better although if you are

really worried then make an app't with your heart doc just to ease

your mind but I am sure it will be the same answer.

>

> Ali

>

> wrote:

> Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr.

yesterday if

> it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a

circulation

> problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of

2003

> and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said

watch

> for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> this? Cyndi B

>

> ---------------------------------

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Messenger

>

August 2, 2008

Here's an interesting " twist " to this...

When I was in my late 20s I was diagnosed with " Raynaulds Syndrome " (sp?!)

because my hands and fingers were so discolored as described earlier by most-by

a vascular specialist. He put me on a drug usually given to elderly people

called " Procardia " ...didn't notice much of a difference...

Finally went to the Osteopath. She felt it was caused by cumulative tension in

my muscles (I was under a lot of stress at work!) which originated from very

tense large muscles in my shoulders down my arms etc...She did some manipulation

therapy, sound wave type of therapy and within several treatments it went

away...

(This was after it was also misdiagnosed as " Tendonitis " and " Carpal Tunnel

Syndrome " by other doctors...)

If discoloration is not cardio-induced this may be something to look into.

Osteopaths do much of the same that Chiropractics do...but are medical docs

also...)

Desi

From: <cynthiamiltonburns@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

this? Cyndi B

August 2, 2008

Cyndi,

This has always happened with . Well, since I've known him when he

was 6. His skin will get mottled, feet and hands turn purple. It

doesn't only happen when it is cold out, sometimes it is when he is

sweating. One dr, explained that the part of the brain that is supposed

to tell the body to regulate the blood flow to the parts of the body is

what may be out of whack when these things happen.

In the last few years has also developed black dots on his lower

leg and foot. The drs feel this is some breakage of small capillaries.

has an artificial mitral valve and so is on anticoagulant meds.

They think this may be contributing to this.

Karyn Mom to (19)

>

> Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday

if

> it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

> problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

> and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

> for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> this? Cyndi B

>

August 3, 2008

Sounds awful

How did you get rid of it?

Beth

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Desi McKenzie

Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:28 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

Here's an interesting " twist " to this...

When I was in my late 20s I was diagnosed with " Raynaulds Syndrome " (sp?!)

because my hands and fingers were so discolored as described earlier by

most-by a vascular specialist. He put me on a drug usually given to elderly

people called " Procardia " ...didn't notice much of a difference...

Finally went to the Osteopath. She felt it was caused by cumulative tension

in my muscles (I was under a lot of stress at work!) which originated from

very tense large muscles in my shoulders down my arms etc...She did some

manipulation therapy, sound wave type of therapy and within several

treatments it went away...

(This was after it was also misdiagnosed as " Tendonitis " and " Carpal Tunnel

Syndrome " by other doctors...)

If discoloration is not cardio-induced this may be something to look into.

Osteopaths do much of the same that Chiropractics do...but are medical docs

also...)

Desi

From: <cynthiamiltonburns@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday if

it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

this? Cyndi B

August 3, 2008

I was also diagnosed with Raynaud's. From what I read, there is

primary and secondary. It bothers mainly my feet. In a doctors office,

he saw them turn color before his eyes!

http://www.raynauds.org/about_raynauds.cfm

But, I also have Sjogren's, just diagnosed last month. So I know that

it can occur alone, or with other things, especially autoimmune.

Funnily enough, Angie's ANA titer is fine, where as mine is elevated,

my Rheumatoid Factor is as well as my Sjogren's A factor.

We ALL seem to be a bunch of medical mysteries!

> >

> > Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday

> if

> > it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a circulation

> > problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of 2003

> > and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said watch

> > for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> > this? Cyndi B

> >

>

August 4, 2008

THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THIS.Monday Dr. Capone will be looking at

so I am going to mention this. Cyndi B

>

> Here's an interesting " twist " to this...

>

> When I was in my late 20s I was diagnosed with " Raynaulds Syndrome "

(sp?!)

> because my hands and fingers were so discolored as described

earlier by most-by a vascular specialist. He put me on a drug usually

given to elderly people called " Procardia " ...didn't notice much of a

difference...

>

> Finally went to the Osteopath. She felt it was caused by cumulative

tension in my muscles (I was under a lot of stress at work!) which

originated from very tense large muscles in my shoulders down my arms

etc...She did some manipulation therapy, sound wave type of therapy

and within several treatments it went away...

>

> (This was after it was also misdiagnosed as " Tendonitis "

and " Carpal Tunnel Syndrome " by other doctors...)

>

> If discoloration is not cardio-induced this may be something to

look into. Osteopaths do much of the same that Chiropractics do...but

are medical docs also...)

>

> Desi

>

> From: <cynthiamiltonburns@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: Feet Turning Purple bad circulation

> To: @yahoogrou ps.com

> Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:20 AM

>

> Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr. yesterday

if

> it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a

circulation

> problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of

2003

> and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said

watch

> for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet do

> this? Cyndi B

>

August 4, 2008

Karyn, Thanks for explaining about . used to get modled but

not it is different more purple/blue. I am at KKI this week and I

will be asking them their opinion. Thanks again Cyndi B

>

> Cyndi,

> This has always happened with . Well, since I've known him

when he

> was 6. His skin will get mottled, feet and hands turn purple. It

> doesn't only happen when it is cold out, sometimes it is when he is

> sweating. One dr, explained that the part of the brain that is

supposed

> to tell the body to regulate the blood flow to the parts of the

body is

> what may be out of whack when these things happen.

> In the last few years has also developed black dots on his

lower

> leg and foot. The drs feel this is some breakage of small

capillaries.

> has an artificial mitral valve and so is on anticoagulant

meds.

> They think this may be contributing to this.

>

> Karyn Mom to (19)

>

> >

> > Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr.

yesterday

> if

> > it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a

circulation

> > problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July of

2003

> > and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said

watch

> > for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet

do

> > this? Cyndi B

> >

>

August 5, 2008

Sorry I wasn't clear. He also does the purple hands and feet trick.

It freaks out a good many people.

Karyn

> > >

> > > Group 's feet have been turning purple. I ask the Dr.

> yesterday

> > if

> > > it could have to do with his heart and he said no it is a

> circulation

> > > problem. had an aseptical defect av canal repair in July

of

> 2003

> > > and he has had no problems. But since the heart Doc always said

> watch

> > > for blue lips,nails,etc I always worry. Anyone else's kids feet

> do

> > > this? Cyndi B

> > >

> >

>

August 5, 2008

DR. Capone at KKI said it does not have to do with his heart. Same

thing that causes modling and also low blood pressure. Thanks for

everyones input. I asked about Raynards syndrome and that was a no.

Thanks again. Cyndi B