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Leah,

hehe, nice e-mail about the e-mail that you got from a friend from abotu the

Surviovors family. I enjoyed it, it's kind of funny after I finished

reading it.

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In a message dated 1/19/01 1:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

brink_00@... writes:

<< >Donna,

Thanks for explaning it. So a pediatric gastroenteroligist looks at all

children, or children with GERD? How come the child has GERD, I mean what

makes a child have GERD? Is is curable, so medicane is the only thing that

can controll it?

>>

,

A pediatric gastro doc looks at all children with GERD, as well as other

intestinal, stomach, esophagus problems, bowel problems, food allergies.

GERD is what they call a motility problem (which means to be able to move

spontaneously). The acids in the stomach keep coming back up into the

esophagus and this causes the esophagus to become enflamed (esophagitis).

It's very painful and needs to be controlled, because left untreated, can

lead to cancer of the esophagus. Sometimes, when it is severe and children

are failure to thrive or keep getting fluid in their lungs (a very bad

condition), docs will do surgery called fundoplication. This procedure

involves wrapping the esophagus around the stomach. Children with DS are

more susceptible to having GERD, probably because of their low muscle tone.

Donna

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In a message dated 1/19/01 1:29:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< Sorry if I'm writting this late. I had to think of what to write and I

was

in a car accident Tuesday evening. Y'all keep the sence of humor going,

ya'll really make me laugh. 4 o clock am! What are you doing still up. At

least I wake up at 6 35 am every weekday for class, but I have an excuss.

Hehe >>

YIKES !!! That sure wasn't ME up at 4 am. I think it is Gail you

are talking about. Seth was up and adam and poor Gail was too. Are you

feeling ok since your accident ?

Donna

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Donna,

ok, thanks for explaining that Gail was up at 4 am. Yeah, I'm ok. . it will

take like a month or 2 months to get the accident off my mind. At least I'm

telling all my friends, so that's good.

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Leah,

I really liked this e-mail that you sent (below). It reminded me of when my

5th grade art teacher died of cancer. She did so much art work- and she was

a good teacher. She was the first teacher in my life that have died.

>

>Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:45:02 -0500

>

>hey dear friends,

>i thought you might like this!!! i found it very inspiring and just calming

>to read......leah

>

>REAL ART

>

>A wealthy man and his son loved to collect rare works of art. They had

>everything in their collection, from Picasso to Raphael.

>

>They would often sit together and admire the great works of art.

>

>When the Viet Nam conflict broke out, the son went to war. He was very

>courageous and died in battle while rescuing another soldier.

>

>The father was notified and grieved deeply for his only son.

>

>About a month later, just before Christmas, there was a knock at the door.

>A

>young man stood at the door with a large package in his hands.

>

>He said, " Sir, you don't know me, but I am the soldier for whom your son

>gave

>his life. He saved many lives that day, and he was carrying me to safety

>when

>a bullet struck him in the heart and he died instantly. He often talked

>about

>you, and your love for art.

>

>The young man held out his package. " I know this isn't much. I'm not really

>a

>great artist, but I think your son would have wanted you to have this. "

>

>The father opened the package. It was a portrait of his son, painted by the

>young man. He stared in awe at the way the soldier had captured the

>personality of his son in the painting. The father was so drawn to the eyes

>that his own eyes welled up with tears.

>

>He thanked the young man and offered to pay him for the picture. " Oh, no

>sir,

>I could never repay what your son did for me. It's a gift. "

>

>The father hung the portrait over his mantle. Every time visitors came to

>his home he took them to see the portrait of his son before he showed

>them

>any of the other great works he had collected.

>

>The man died a few months later. There was to be a great auction of his

>paintings. Many influential people gathered, excited over seeing the great

>paintings and having an opportunity to purchase one for their collection.

>On

>the platform sat the painting of the son. The auctioneer pounded his gavel.

> " We will start the bidding with this picture of the son. Who will bid for

>this picture? "

>

>There was silence. Then a voice in the back of the room shouted, " We want

>to

>see the famous paintings. Skip this one. "

>

>But the auctioneer persisted, " Will someone bid for this painting? Who will

>start the bidding? $100, $200? "

>

>Another voice shouted angrily, " We didn't come to see this painting. We

>came

>to see the Van Goghs, the Rembrandts. Get on with the real bids! " But

>still

>the auctioneer continued, " The son! The son! Who'll take the son? " Finally,

>a

>voice came from the very back of the room. It was the longtime gardener of

>the man and his son. " I'll give $10 for the painting. "

>

>Being a poor man, it was all he could afford. " We have $10, who will bid

>$20? " " Give it to him for $10. Let's see the masters. " " $10 is the bid,

>won't someone bid $20? " The crowd was becoming angry. They didn't want the

>picture of the son. They wanted the more worthy investments for their

>collections. The auctioneer pounded the gavel. " Going once, twice, SOLD for

>$10! "

>

>A man sitting on the second row shouted, " Now let's get on with the

>collection! " The auctioneer laid down his gavel, " I'm sorry, the auction is

>over. " " What about the paintings? " " I am sorry. When I was called to

>conduct

>this auction, I was told of a secret stipulation in the will. I was not

>allowed to reveal that stipulation until this time. Only the painting of

>the

>son would be auctioned. Whoever bought that painting would inherit the

>entire

>estate, including the paintings. The man who took the son gets everything! "

>

>God gave his Son 2,000 years ago to die on a cruel cross. Much like the

>auctioneer, His message today is, " The Son, the Son , who'll take the Son? "

>Because you see, whoever takes the Son gets everything.

>--author unknown

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Dear Sir,

You have to fulfill all the requirements under

Factories Act 1948-Chapter 4 A – Provisions

relating to hazardous processes.

With Regards

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Dear professionals

I will be very much thankful , if any body provide the requirements to

be followed when setting up hazardous process in the industry.

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May I request all to search on Net before

floating queries to the Group.

Now-a-days, less response is observed, may

be due to such queries.

Regards,

JK Das

From: indiansafetyprofessionals [mailto:indiansafetyprofessionals ] On Behalf Of manoj shah

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007

4:01 PM

To: indiansafetyprofessionals

Subject:

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Dear all.,

I am in need of good safety trainning in scaffolding, working at

height,confined space,hot work presantation,weldingcutting for supervisor

group , If any of you have this kind of trainning module please let me forward,

hope for early reply,

from

M.G.SHAH

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007

2:54 PM

To: indiansafetyprofessionals

Subject:

Root Cause Analysis

Dear All,

Can any body

provide me Presentation or case study for Root Cause Analysis?

Warm Regards,

Vinay M.

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Well Mr.Manoj,

There are many Kind of Risk Assessment formats available. Some prepare the format as per company's forum & others as per their respective requirement.

Simply explaining the difference between these two are, that

1) If you carry out a Risk Assessment in a shop-floor and Identify all the Major Types Hazards ( eg, Electrical Hazard, Oil Spillage, Fire, Ergonomics, Noise etc) , then it will be considered as Qualitative Risk Assessment.

2) Where as if you assess the same along with a Risk Matrix , that is - rating each of the respective Hazards separately and ranking them into categorization thereby made, will be considered as Quantitative Risk Assessment.

Hope you get the point. Do comment on the discussion please.

Regards,

Indrajeet Roy,

ALIL (Pune)

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Mr Manoj,

Indrajeet has rightly explained you the gist of Qualitative and Quantitative Risk assessment.

Id like to add to the same

Qualitative (Risk assessment) : Self explains that we are trying to identify the Hazards its location and prevalence. At times rough quantification is done during qualitative risk assessment eg. Measuring level of noise or heat stress just to have a rough idea whether it

is high or low.

Quantitative (Risk Assessment): Self explains that we are trying to quantify the risk associated to the identified Hazards. A detailed survey is made and risk arising from the hazards are measured by means of a risk matrix at identified locations (as explained by Indrajeet) or by instrumental readings like Noise levels, Wet bulb/ Dry bulb temp readings, ergonomic risk etc.

Hope this information is helpful to you,

Others are welcome to add to the information.

Regards,

rafols B. Menezes

Environment Health and Safety

Pfizer Ltd.

India.

Well Mr.Manoj,

There are many Kind of Risk Assessment formats available. Some prepare the format as per company's forum & others as per their respective requirement.

Simply explaining the difference between these two are, that

1) If you carry out a Risk Assessment in a shop-floor and Identify all the Major Types Hazards ( eg, Electrical Hazard, Oil Spillage, Fire, Ergonomics, Noise etc) , then it will be considered as Qualitative Risk Assessment.

2) Where as if you assess the same along with a Risk Matrix , that is - rating each of the respective Hazards separately and ranking them into categorization thereby made, will be considered as Quantitative Risk Assessment.

Hope you get the point. Do comment on the discussion please.

Regards,

Indrajeet Roy,

ALIL (Pune)

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Dear all, When doing risk assesment it is better to idetify the hazards associated with each and every activity in the process so that we would havE a clear picture. the noise, heat, vibrations etc are selective one. So iti s better to identify the risks associated with our all activities. Regards, T.S.SRINMIVASANrafols Menezes wrote: Mr Manoj, Indrajeet has rightly explained you the gist of

Qualitative and Quantitative Risk assessment. Id like to add to the same Qualitative (Risk assessment) : Self explains that we are trying to identify the Hazards its location and prevalence. At times rough quantification is done during qualitative risk assessment eg. Measuring level of noise or heat stress just to have a rough idea whether it is high or low. Quantitative (Risk Assessment): Self explains that we are trying to quantify the risk associated to the identified Hazards. A detailed survey is made and risk arising from the hazards are measured by means of a risk matrix at identified locations (as explained by Indrajeet) or by instrumental readings like Noise levels, Wet bulb/ Dry bulb temp readings, ergonomic risk etc. Hope this information is helpful to you, Others are welcome to add to the information. Regards, rafols B. Menezes Environment Health and Safety Pfizer Ltd. India. On 1/23/08, indrajeet roy <indrajeet369gmail> wrote: Well Mr.Manoj, There are many Kind of Risk Assessment formats available. Some prepare the format as per company's

forum & others as per their respective requirement. Simply explaining the difference between these two are, that 1) If you carry out a Risk Assessment in a shop-floor and Identify all the Major Types Hazards ( eg, Electrical Hazard, Oil Spillage, Fire, Ergonomics, Noise etc) , then it will be considered as Qualitative Risk Assessment. 2) Where as if you assess the same along with a Risk Matrix , that is - rating each of the respective Hazards separately and ranking them into categorization thereby made, will be considered as Quantitative Risk Assessment. Hope you get the point. Do comment on the discussion please. Regards, Indrajeet Roy, ALIL (Pune)

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Dear Sir,

Risk Assessments by default, necessitates the identification of all types of hazards i.e. (High Noise, Fire, Static electric discharge, Ergonomics, Heat stress,spills, trips and falls etc.) I have referred to specific examples to illustrate the difference.

Regards,

rafols B. Menezes

Environment Health and Safety

Pfizer Ltd.

India.

Mr Manoj,

Indrajeet has rightly explained you the gist of Qualitative and Quantitative Risk assessment.

Id like to add to the same

Qualitative (Risk assessment) : Self explains that we are trying to identify the Hazards its location and prevalence. At times rough quantification is done during qualitative risk assessment eg. Measuring level of noise or heat stress just to have a rough idea whether it

is high or low.

Quantitative (Risk Assessment): Self explains that we are trying to quantify the risk associated to the identified Hazards. A detailed survey is made and risk arising from the hazards are measured by means of a risk matrix at identified locations (as explained by Indrajeet) or by instrumental readings like Noise levels, Wet bulb/ Dry bulb temp readings, ergonomic risk etc.

Hope this information is helpful to you,

Others are welcome to add to the information.

Regards,

rafols B. Menezes

Environment Health and Safety

Pfizer Ltd.

India.

On 1/23/08, indrajeet roy <indrajeet369@...

> wrote:

Well Mr.Manoj,

There are many Kind of Risk Assessment formats available. Some prepare the format as per company's forum & others as per their respective requirement.

Simply explaining the difference between these two are, that

1) If you carry out a Risk Assessment in a shop-floor and Identify all the Major Types Hazards ( eg, Electrical Hazard, Oil Spillage, Fire, Ergonomics, Noise etc) , then it will be considered as Qualitative Risk Assessment.

2) Where as if you assess the same along with a Risk Matrix , that is - rating each of the respective Hazards separately and ranking them into categorization thereby made, will be considered as Quantitative Risk Assessment.

Hope you get the point. Do comment on the discussion please.

Regards,

Indrajeet Roy,

ALIL (Pune)

-- Environment Health and SafetyPfizer Ltd.New Mumbai,India.rafols B.Menezes

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Dear Friends,

Our frnd manoj had asked about

1. Qualitative Risk Assessment/Quantitaive Risk Assessment methods, & how it differs from each other &

2. it's applicability in industry

Answer 1

Qualtative risk analysis is an subjective approach, where u define the likely hood of occurence & severity qualitatively for example severity ranking could be high, medium so on..., and likely hood of occurence as once in week, once in month & so on... these ranking changes from industries to industries. It is risk matrix approach. Methods would be DOW index, FMEA etc

whereas

Quantitative Risk assessment quantifies both the severity ( interms of effects on environment, property & human. for ex 10 people may die due to rupture of LPG bullet) & likely hood of occurence ( interms of failure frequencies generally derived from literatures. for example pipeline failure frequency is 1E-6 per year). CCPS has given guidlines for the same u may refer that.

Answer 2

Above defination will suffice

Answer 3

There are thousand of risk in an industries, but each risk doenot require to be studied in detail depending upon its extent.

Therfore Qualitative approach is used to identify the high risk & further these risk are quantified to understand their impact.

Still u feel, u require more help u can write to me.

Vinod Wagh

On 1/24/08, rafols Menezes <mariorafols@...

> wrote:

Dear Sir,

Risk Assessments by default, necessitates the identification of all types of hazards i.e. (High Noise, Fire, Static electric discharge, Ergonomics, Heat stress,spills, trips and falls etc.) I have referred to specific examples to illustrate the difference.

Regards,

rafols B. Menezes

Environment Health and Safety

Pfizer Ltd.

India.

Mr Manoj,

Indrajeet has rightly explained you the gist of Qualitative and Quantitative Risk assessment.

Id like to add to the same

Qualitative (Risk assessment) : Self explains that we are trying to identify the Hazards its location and prevalence. At times rough quantification is done during qualitative risk assessment eg. Measuring level of noise or heat stress just to have a rough idea whether it

is high or low.

Quantitative (Risk Assessment): Self explains that we are trying to quantify the risk associated to the identified Hazards. A detailed survey is made and risk arising from the hazards are measured by means of a risk matrix at identified locations (as explained by Indrajeet) or by instrumental readings like Noise levels, Wet bulb/ Dry bulb temp readings, ergonomic risk etc.

Hope this information is helpful to you,

Others are welcome to add to the information.

Regards,

rafols B. Menezes

Environment Health and Safety

Pfizer Ltd.

India.

Well Mr.Manoj,

There are many Kind of Risk Assessment formats available. Some prepare the format as per company's forum & others as per their respective requirement.

Simply explaining the difference between these two are, that

1) If you carry out a Risk Assessment in a shop-floor and Identify all the Major Types Hazards ( eg, Electrical Hazard, Oil Spillage, Fire, Ergonomics, Noise etc) , then it will be considered as Qualitative Risk Assessment.

2) Where as if you assess the same along with a Risk Matrix , that is - rating each of the respective Hazards separately and ranking them into categorization thereby made, will be considered as Quantitative Risk Assessment.

Hope you get the point. Do comment on the discussion please.

Regards,

Indrajeet Roy,

ALIL (Pune)

-- Environment Health and Safety Pfizer Ltd.New Mumbai,India.rafols B.Menezes

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Hello All,

With respect to all above discussion I think there is a mis-conception about the topic.

CCPS has given the same guidelines as discussed earlier.

As I mentioned before that in Qualitative Risk analysis is only to recognize a particular Hazard, in simple words the type of hazards, and evaluating it in deeper sense wrt its probability of causing Harm, which can be of any type.

Now after recognization of all the MAH & when we add all and compare the severity & Frequency of such hazard with a risk matrix – What we avail is a percentile result which can be termed as Quantitative (means-Amount) Assessment of a particular Risk .

FMEA, HAZOP, DOW, LOPA-HF, OSHAs-Risk Assessment(2006 version) , FRA etc. will include in Quantifying ( amount) a Hazards .

For further Information I am attaching a PDF file , wich will more clearly give an idea of what Quantity & Quality is...?

Regards,

Indrajeet Roy.

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Hi Delia,

Welcome to the group. My son is a 10th grader, 16 and has been the first student

to be included since kindergarten in our school district. It has been a rocky

road, some years better than others depending on teacher's attitudes toward

inclusion. I find it troubling that many special ed and general teachers know

little about Down syndrome and or dual diagnosis and seem to group students

ability by ID verses individuality. I would urge you and your graduate students

to read Mental Wellness in Adults with Down Syndrome by Dennis McGuire, Ph.D and

Chicoine  MD., a guide to emotional and behavioral strengths and

challenges. The book focuses on adults but does mention elementary and teen

years. It is published by Woodbine. The book helps to make sense of behaviors

and learning that many teachers have little understanding and knowledge.

Charlyne

Subject: (unknown)

To:

Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:36 PM

Hi,

   My name is Delia and I am  new to the group.  I have a brother who has Downs

and a son who is developmentally disabled.  I have been involved in Special

Education for 30 years as a sibling, parent and teacher. I come to the group

because I am an inclusion facilitator in a northwest suburb of Chicago.  In

recent months, I have noticed an increase in students who have the dual

diagnosis of Downs and Autism. Teachers have come to me asking for help on how

to service their students.  It has become apparent that I need to know more to

help them.  In my role as an inclusion facilitator,  I also want to help the

children enjoy the life they deserve in every aspect.  Having lived most of my

life being involved with children with special needs, I know how important this

is. I am also a professor at a local university, teaching special education to

graduate students who will be getting a degree in special education.  I feel

that it is

important for them to know about students with dual diagnosis. I hope that I

will be able to offer the group knowledge that I've gained from years of

experience while I become more informed about children with the dual diagnosis

of Downs and Autism.

 

 

 

Dr. Delia J. Ross

Inclusion Facilitator- School District 300

                   and

Aurora University-Dept. Special Education

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Delia: Welcome to our list. We parents (for the most part but not

only) are able to support each other in our trials and efforts as well as

glory inour successes in a way that the typical population can only think

about.

HAving said that, integration in school and life is a goal most of us

support and work towards with various successes.

For my son Elie, now 23, school was hot or miss. HE was included totally

for k-3 which took five years. With the help of a co-teacher (the inclusion

specialist in his school), he had some great years with second grade being

the absolutely best of his elementary years. Third grade teachers changed

and he was relegated to the back of the room with a one on one. Then that

teacher was hospitalized with a serious mental illness (where she remains to

this day) and he sufferred thru a variety of paras. After that, he was in

self-contained classes as he withdrew more and more. Middle school was

spent self contained with a wonderful man who helped him attain much

success. HE attended 6th grade social studies, clubs, and computer classes

with neuro typical kids thruourt and was mostly able to handle the noise and

confusion of middle school with some precautions.

By h/s he was in a stand alone private k-12 school for people with various

special needs (some physical, some cognitive, some behavioral) HEre he

learned better behavior control but not much else. Then for his glorious

last year of school, he was enrolled in a rural regular h/s but self

contained with the most magnificent teacher who allowed him the opportunity

to grow in compassionan, academics, as well as being more independent as he

learned his way alone thru the school community.

Now he is living in the community with a NT peer who is his " bro " and

friend. The changes in him in the past 2 months are remarkable. This w/e

he came home for a w/e visit for the first time since he moved. Yesterday

he went shopping and picked out on his own which shoes and pj's he wanted -

he never cared anything about clothes and would always tell us no

previously.

> Hi Delia,

> Welcome to the group. My son is a 10th grader, 16 and has been the first

> student to be included since kindergarten in our school district. It has

> been a rocky road, some years better than others depending on teacher's

> attitudes toward inclusion. I find it troubling that many special ed and

> general teachers know little about Down syndrome and or dual diagnosis and

> seem to group students ability by ID verses individuality. I would urge you

> and your graduate students to read Mental Wellness in Adults with Down

> Syndrome by Dennis McGuire, Ph.D and Chicoine MD., a guide to

> emotional and behavioral strengths and challenges. The book focuses on

> adults but does mention elementary and teen years. It is published by

> Woodbine. The book helps to make sense of behaviors and learning that many

> teachers have little understanding and knowledge.

> Charlyne

>

>

> From: Delia, Delia, Delia, Delia Ross, Ross, Ross, Ross <

> deliaross@... <deliaross%40yahoo.com>>

> Subject: (unknown)

> To:

> Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:36 PM

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is Delia and I am new to the group. I have a brother who has

> Downs and a son who is developmentally disabled. I have been involved in

> Special Education for 30 years as a sibling, parent and teacher. I come to

> the group because I am an inclusion facilitator in a northwest suburb of

> Chicago. In recent months, I have noticed an increase in students who have

> the dual diagnosis of Downs and Autism. Teachers have come to me asking for

> help on how to service their students. It has become apparent that I need

> to know more to help them. In my role as an inclusion facilitator, I also

> want to help the children enjoy the life they deserve in every aspect.

> Having lived most of my life being involved with children with special

> needs, I know how important this is. I am also a professor at a local

> university, teaching special education to graduate students who will be

> getting a degree in special education. I feel that it is

>

> important for them to know about students with dual diagnosis. I hope that

> I will be able to offer the group knowledge that I've gained from years of

> experience while I become more informed about children with the dual

> diagnosis of Downs and Autism.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dr. Delia J. Ross

>

> Inclusion Facilitator- School District 300

>

> and

>

> Aurora University-Dept. Special Education

>

>

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What about asking them to promote and celebrate March 21st, 2009, World Down

Syndrome Day  every year with free haircuts for anyone with Down syndrome (I

like this because it means the staff will meet more people with Down Syndrome -

and you may want to suggest they get help " training " the staff in disability

awareness issues) or to give a donation (they get a tax break and good press for

that so they like it too) to a national or state charity.

By they way - if they called wanting to resolve, that means you did well on your

discovery.

Take care,

(unknown)

To:

> I talked to my lawyer yesterday and she said that their lawyer

> had sent her an email asking how we could resolve this. I told

> her all I wanted was an written apology for a, and the

> same respect for children with disabilities as others, and

> possibly free haircuts to persons with a disability. I don't

> know how long or often, but I think they should have to do

> something to bring awareness for our children, What do you guys

> think?

>

> Stella Harrelson,

>

>

>

>      

>

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My first thought is that I'd be a little concerned about " making " them give

free haircuts to persons with a disability..if they have that " attitude " ,

YKWIM???? I wouldn't want to take my daughter to them knowing what I know

now cause I could " feel " their attitude.

Maybe they could be required to raise a certain amount of funds though for a

good cause.like the Buddy Walk or something? Maybe they have a " come get

your haircut day (or days) and 25% of the funds goes towards the Buddy Walk

(or another cause)? My question is - do they truly understand what they did

and how it felt? I know you don't know me Stella but I read your post and

was just appalled (as you obviously were...) and I applaud you for going

forward and taking action!

Blessings,

Kathy

(unknown)

I talked to my lawyer yesterday and she said that their lawyer had sent her

an email asking how we could resolve this. I told her all I wanted was an

written apology for a, and the same respect for children with

disabilities as others, and possibly free haircuts to persons with a

disability. I don't know how long or often, but I think they should have to

do something to bring awareness for our children, What do you guys think?

Stella Harrelson,

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yeah, I do know what you mean. I didn't even think about raising money for a

non-profit organization. Maybe I will tell , my lawyer and see what she

thinks. Thanks, that is some good advice.

Stella

>

> My first thought is that I'd be a little concerned about " making " them give

> free haircuts to persons with a disability..if they have that " attitude " ,

> YKWIM???? I wouldn't want to take my daughter to them knowing what I know

> now cause I could " feel " their attitude.

>

>

>

> Maybe they could be required to raise a certain amount of funds though for a

> good cause.like the Buddy Walk or something? Maybe they have a " come get

> your haircut day (or days) and 25% of the funds goes towards the Buddy Walk

> (or another cause)? My question is - do they truly understand what they did

> and how it felt? I know you don't know me Stella but I read your post and

> was just appalled (as you obviously were...) and I applaud you for going

> forward and taking action!

>

>

>

> Blessings,

>

>

>

> Kathy

>

> (unknown)

>

>

>

> I talked to my lawyer yesterday and she said that their lawyer had sent her

> an email asking how we could resolve this. I told her all I wanted was an

> written apology for a, and the same respect for children with

> disabilities as others, and possibly free haircuts to persons with a

> disability. I don't know how long or often, but I think they should have to

> do something to bring awareness for our children, What do you guys think?

>

> Stella Harrelson,

>

>

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Great ideas!

Only sometimes I am one of those that just stay away as the trust has been

broken, business like this will give me a bad taste and no longer want anything

with them.

It is wrong how they treated your daughter so hope you could get something

resolved where respect and dignity is deserved.

A contribution to your favorite charity in honor of your daughter.

Did their attorney recommend anything?

You would think that they would thought of something, instead you broke the

camels back and left them speechless with bringing forth justice & respect where

needed.

The hairdresser could have in front of the building with

I love kids with Down syndrome or tattoo herself.

Ok, I am just getting carried away here.

Did like 's idea.

Irma

>

> What about asking them to promote and celebrate March 21st, 2009, World Down

Syndrome Day� every year with free haircuts for anyone with Down syndrome (I

like this because it means the staff will meet more people with Down Syndrome -

and you may want to suggest they get help " training " the staff in disability

awareness issues) or to give a donation (they get a tax break and good press for

that so they like it too) to a national or state charity.

>

> By they way - if they called wanting to resolve, that means you did well on

your discovery.

>

> Take care,

>

>

> (unknown)

> To:

>

> > I talked to my lawyer yesterday and she said that their lawyer

> > had sent her an email asking how we could resolve this. I told

> > her all I wanted was an written apology for a, and the

> > same respect for children with disabilities as others, and

> > possibly free haircuts to persons with a disability. I don't

> > know how long or often, but I think they should have to do

> > something to bring awareness for our children, What do you guys

> > think?

> >

> > Stella Harrelson,

> >

> >

> >

> > �����

> >

> >

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lol. Your a mess. I went ahead and sent an email telling her that I loved

Kathy's idea. And being that April is Autism Awareness month, this month would

be great to have a portion of their profits donated to an non-profit

organization. I wish she could have went with me during my meeting.Thanks Kathy,

good idea.

Your right, my mind just froze when he asked me what I expected to come out of

this. I'll let everyone know what we end up asking for. Whatever it is, it will

be for OUR CHILDREN....

I'm going to frame the apology letter and put it where I can see it. That way,

whenever I'm feeling overwhelmed I can look up to that letter and remember that

I fought for a and was able to get her justice.

It might sound crazy but to me that apology letter will stand for a lot, like I

will not put up with anyone mistreating any person especially children with a

disability. We have to be our children s voice, and that's what I done. :)

> >

> > What about asking them to promote and celebrate March 21st, 2009, World Down

Syndrome Day� every year with free haircuts for anyone with Down syndrome (I

like this because it means the staff will meet more people with Down Syndrome -

and you may want to suggest they get help " training " the staff in disability

awareness issues) or to give a donation (they get a tax break and good press for

that so they like it too) to a national or state charity.

> >

> > By they way - if they called wanting to resolve, that means you did well on

your discovery.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> >

> > (unknown)

> > To:

> >

> > > I talked to my lawyer yesterday and she said that their lawyer

> > > had sent her an email asking how we could resolve this. I told

> > > her all I wanted was an written apology for a, and the

> > > same respect for children with disabilities as others, and

> > > possibly free haircuts to persons with a disability. I don't

> > > know how long or often, but I think they should have to do

> > > something to bring awareness for our children, What do you guys

> > > think?

> > >

> > > Stella Harrelson,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > �����

> > >

> > >

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<<<Hi Everyone.

My name is and I am the mother of 15. I wish I had of

discovered this group earlier, but better late than never. Lol. and I

have had a very interesting past 15 years. We have had great fun and a few

tears, I am still wondering just who has learn t the most him or me.

has no language, minimal signing and plenty of rituals due to his autism,

yet is very clever. I am so excited to find a group where we " belong " . Thank

you for letting us join your group. I am really looking forward to hearing

from other parents of children with downs and autism.

Cheers

>>>

Hi and welcome ! Look forward to hearing more about .

Our kids certainly are clever aren't they? Kayla's only 5, nonverbal and few

signs, but she understands a lot. She knows that she has to eat her main

meal before she can have any pretzels or cookies. So I caught her trying to

hide her food in the couch!

Ecki

Mom to Kayla (DS/ASD, 4/5/04) and Laurie (PDD-NOS, 7/12/01)

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Welcome to our list! Even though is 15 - there are many many years

of growth and learning to look forward to. My son Elie is 24. HE now lives

in a house he co-rents with his caregiver. HE volunteers in his community

and enjoys his life with his circle of male friends. Elie does talk and

walk - as minimally as he must toget his needs met.

>

>

> <<<Hi Everyone.

>

> My name is and I am the mother of 15. I wish I had of

> discovered this group earlier, but better late than never. Lol. and

> I

> have had a very interesting past 15 years. We have had great fun and a few

> tears, I am still wondering just who has learn t the most him or me.

> has no language, minimal signing and plenty of rituals due to his autism,

> yet is very clever. I am so excited to find a group where we " belong " .

> Thank

> you for letting us join your group. I am really looking forward to hearing

> from other parents of children with downs and autism.

>

> Cheers

>

> >>>

>

> Hi and welcome ! Look forward to hearing more about .

>

> Our kids certainly are clever aren't they? Kayla's only 5, nonverbal and

> few

> signs, but she understands a lot. She knows that she has to eat her main

> meal before she can have any pretzels or cookies. So I caught her trying to

> hide her food in the couch!

>

> Ecki

>

> Mom to Kayla (DS/ASD, 4/5/04) and Laurie (PDD-NOS, 7/12/01)

>

> http://oppositekids.blogspot.com/

>

>

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