Re: HELP!!!potty training

[Guest guest]

Leilani,

Jake is 9 and and mostly pees on the potty. Basically, if we put him on the

potty he will go but he can also hold it pretty darn long. When we travel or

when we know there may not be the best or cleanest facilities, we often put him

in pull ups just so he does not have a bad accident. He still rarely poops in

the potty but he now comes immediatly and tells us when he poops. He is getting

closer. This week school started and he has peed twice just sitting watching

TV. Sort of his way of rebelling I guess. He looses ground and then comes back

stronger. It is a long process but most get there so hang in! Boys are also so

much harder to potty train. Is he in an inclusive class? Can he still be in

pull ups to save the embarrassment? How do the other kids treat him otherwise.

They may not tease him if they know about him and have experience with him. Most

of the kids who know Jake just know he still doesn't always use the potty. It

helps that Jake is so much smaller than everyone else.

Holly

[Guest guest]

didn’t start taking himself until he was 9-10years of age. The only

thing that really worked was just having him scheduled trained, and having happy

pottied in the toilet dances, lol. It seemed like the less we obsesssed, did the

better he did. We just really encouraged cleanliness. Kept clean clothes and

pull-ups In the bathroom and if he soiled himself had to wash up and change, the

thinking behind this as to ofcourse make sure he smells good, lol and hopefully

he will think its easier to just use to the toilet then wash up and change.I

remember we use to ask him " where do you go pee " same for poo, and he got to

where he was say " poopoo toilet " I think it helped get the idea across, but its

hard saying as I never really knows what goes on in that head of his. shawna

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Leilani,

My son, DJ, is 13 years old and though we tried potty training him

since he was 5 years old, it wasn't until this last year that I had

a team at school willing to tackle this skill with consistency. DJ

is now schedule trained to every 1 1/2 hours, but the adults in his

life must be consistent and know the unique peculiarities of his

routine. He uses picture icons, consistent schedule, positive

rewards and a social story I wrote and illustrated for him to help

him maintain independence...BUT he does not " tell us " he has to go

nor does he go independently. Sometimes the autism makes it so that

our kids cannot say what they need, or they may experience the

sensation of a full-bladder differently than we do, more as a global

anxiety than as a localized, understandable pressure. One thing we

tried, but I ended up using more for myself was the potty timer

watch.

http://www.pottytimeinc.com/

You can see if it might help Noah develop more independence to take

himself to the bathroom when the timer goes off, on a regular

schedule. I found this product in a local baby store and it cost me

$11, which I considered quite reasonable. The " music " is tinny and

computer-chip type, but it helped me stay on schedule better. My

son would not leave it on his arm, and when I put it on a backpack

I found he left it alone, but I could not always hear it to prompt

him to go so I kept it on me. The proprietor of the store told me

she used it with her 2 1/2 year old daughter, with great success,

until the daughter threw it in the toilet! But maybe Noah will be

different. Just a few thoughts.

Just know you are not alone and there are some of our children who

can never say, " I need to go " or who will ever be trained. Each

child's abilities are different.

Hugs,

Donnell (mom to DJ, age 13, DS/ASD/ADHD)

>

> HI! I hope someone can help me. My son is seven years old and we

have

> tried for years to potty train him. I feel like we have tried

> everything but just when i think we are getting somewhere he

> regresses. I worry about him socially, he is now in first grade

and I

> don't want his feelings to get hurt.

> He will go if we take him, usually kicking and screaming. He just

> won't make any indication on his own that he needs to go nor will

he

> just get up and go, he will just wet himself. I am almost always

with

> him and cant think of any reason why he would be afraid of going

to the

> bathroom, Ive tried pictures, schedules, picture schedules,

> reinforcers, timers, " positive potty trainging, I've even giving a

> spiderman doll a bulb syringe penis to make it seem that even

spiderman

> goes to the bathroom. Im at my wits end and my main concern is

for

> Noah and how this will affect him socially.

>

[Guest guest]

My son wasn't toilet trained until he was almost 10. He didn't come

to us as a foster child until he was 8 and hadn't been trained yet.

We had lots of behaviors. One thing that I did was try to make it a

positive thing and avoid the negative. My reason was that

always focused on negatives and drew toward them creating negative

cycles.

So, I did dry pants checks every 15 minutes at first. We had a basket

with plastic easter eggs in them. The easter eggs held everything

from a piece of candy to a toy written on a piece of paper. The toys

were new toys he had never seen that I kept in a closet until he won

the egg. I don't believe this would have worked for him at age 7

since he didn't have the cognitive skills to follow the program then.

He also couldn't delay gratification.

But, the mystery of the eggs kept his attention. We still had months

of changing pants several times per day. I didn't do anything to

discourage accidents just stayed on course with the eggs and

encreasing the time between reinforcers.

There was no way I could have done this with other children in the

home. You have my best wishes.

Karyn, Mom to , 19, 7, r 4, , 22months

>

> HI! I hope someone can help me. My son is seven years old and we

have

> tried for years to potty train him. I feel like we have tried

> everything but just when i think we are getting somewhere he

> regresses. I worry about him socially, he is now in first grade

and I

> don't want his feelings to get hurt.

> He will go if we take him, usually kicking and screaming. He just

> won't make any indication on his own that he needs to go nor will

he

> just get up and go, he will just wet himself. I am almost always

with

> him and cant think of any reason why he would be afraid of going to

the

> bathroom, Ive tried pictures, schedules, picture schedules,

> reinforcers, timers, " positive potty trainging, I've even giving a

> spiderman doll a bulb syringe penis to make it seem that even

spiderman

> goes to the bathroom. Im at my wits end and my main concern is for

> Noah and how this will affect him socially.

>

[Guest guest]

I meant to add that I don't think wearing pull-ups or diapers ever

hurt socially. was in an inclusive school. Everyone knew

that did things differently and learned some things slower than

they did. He was and he was a member of their class. It was

probably more difficult when we were going through the toilet

training and when he still had some accidents since that was more

disruptive.

Karyn

>

> HI! I hope someone can help me. My son is seven years old and we

have

> tried for years to potty train him. I feel like we have tried

> everything but just when i think we are getting somewhere he

> regresses. I worry about him socially, he is now in first grade

and I

> don't want his feelings to get hurt.

> He will go if we take him, usually kicking and screaming. He just

> won't make any indication on his own that he needs to go nor will

he

> just get up and go, he will just wet himself. I am almost always

with

> him and cant think of any reason why he would be afraid of going to

the

> bathroom, Ive tried pictures, schedules, picture schedules,

> reinforcers, timers, " positive potty trainging, I've even giving a

> spiderman doll a bulb syringe penis to make it seem that even

spiderman

> goes to the bathroom. Im at my wits end and my main concern is for

> Noah and how this will affect him socially.

>

[Guest guest]

Tori will be 9 in Feb. and is still in pull-ups. I watched a video about the

Potty Whisperer and she was easily able to toilet train her kids and others by

saying " When you have to go potty/toilet, you need to go to the potty/toilet. "

Thereby giving the child the ability to make the decision..and not having you

telling them when to go. Since watching that show, I tried it with Tori, and

believe it or not, it is working. Not as fast as it did for the typical kids,

but for the most part, it is working for Tori.

Just a suggestion, but I figured-what the heck... and it has gotten MUCH better.

Liz

Re: HELP!!!potty training

I meant to add that I don't think wearing pull-ups or diapers ever

hurt socially. was in an inclusive school. Everyone knew

that did things differently and learned some things slower than

they did. He was and he was a member of their class. It was

probably more difficult when we were going through the toilet

training and when he still had some accidents since that was more

disruptive.

Karyn

>

> HI! I hope someone can help me. My son is seven years old and we

have

> tried for years to potty train him. I feel like we have tried

> everything but just when i think we are getting somewhere he

> regresses. I worry about him socially, he is now in first grade

and I

> don't want his feelings to get hurt.

> He will go if we take him, usually kicking and screaming. He just

> won't make any indication on his own that he needs to go nor will

he

> just get up and go, he will just wet himself. I am almost always

with

> him and cant think of any reason why he would be afraid of going to

the

> bathroom, Ive tried pictures, schedules, picture schedules,

> reinforcers, timers, " positive potty trainging, I've even giving a

> spiderman doll a bulb syringe penis to make it seem that even

spiderman

> goes to the bathroom. Im at my wits end and my main concern is for

> Noah and how this will affect him socially.

>

[Guest guest]

donelle, schedule training worked well with nathan, but we started at 3-4yrs.

Just stay at it, one day he will say " gotta pee! " hehehek, that's what nathan

did, we didn’t understand what he was leaving for (visiting grandparents) and

finally he got so mad at us not understanding what he wanted he yelled this and

it was very clear, lol, ever since then he has taken himself. I still have to

help with bm clean up detail but that is coming along nicely, I swear a mom had

to invent those popup baby wipes, lol. As for school, he would hold it all day

so now, they are to ask him every couple hours if he needs to go, and he gets

taken to a private bathroom after lunch and he has gone real good every day of

highschool at this time so far. He then also takes a break and stims for a few

minutes sitting on the bed in the bathroom relaxing until the bell rings as he

no longer gets recess. shawna

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