Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 - Well said!!! I now have gone back to remembering my father's actions and behaviors that I now know where symptoms of the disease that I learned I have just one and a half years ago. Now I go to my family reunions and learn that my aunts and cousins are suffering as I do with the symptoms. Keep on fighting and educating others. -wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Thank you for this honest and insightful posting, . I have CMT but do not know the type. the tests I've had have been negative.  However, I've only been tested for two types. I now use a wheelchair and am having a hard time coping with the progression of weakness in hands and legs. I have had symptoms since childhood, but have always managed with a good attitude.  It's harder now. Do you know of a CMT research and treatment center, such as Baylor, in the Boston area.  If not, I would be willing to travel to one in another area. Thanks for the group.  Lois From: <rgmachot@...> Subject: Live in the Moment Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 10:17 PM  A year and a half ago a multitude of confounding medical and physical issues that had plagued me for half of my life were given a name, a diagnosis, a condition, defined as a disease process. As relieved as I was to know that there was indeed something going on in my body that was part of an organized assault on my nervous system, little did I realize that a year and a half later I am not much closer to accepting the facts as they are. I had unknowingly watched the degenerative processes of CMT subdue my grandmother, uncle and father. As common as this neuropathy apparently is, particularly in the southern Wisconsin area, no practioner(s) involved in the care of any of us suggested or pondered aloud a hereditary neuropathic process as the condition that was affecting us. As a part of I get daily postings that I find variably interesting relative to their applicability to my condition and situation. Ultimately, it would seem that for as many of us as there are, we all have varying degrees of issues, impact, limitations, and social/familial/ medical/rehab support systems in place. I read pieces of my story in many of the posts here. I feel your pain and suffer your same physical and emotional hurdles. But other than my father, whose path I feel I am following similarly 40 years behind him, it would seem that for such a prevalent disease, we are all at least mildly different in our presentation. Obviously, there are numerous strains of the disease. Also, I would suggest that physiologically and anatomically we all have a similar basic process that is bringing us down, but the way each of us lives seems to bring on different associated issues that make us present with different issues. Levels of activity and injury related to balance and tissue weaknesses create varied presentation and ability to cope physically. CMT does not, to my knowledge, affect the tissues/nerves of the shoulder, but my father has debilitating shoulder issues that I think are caused by a) the over-use of this joint as the shoulders work harder to make up for deficiencies in the extremities, and the jarring impact of numerous falls due to balance and weakness issues. I am sure there are many similar examples of anatomical troubles that are secondary to the primary disease that is CMT. The complexity and variability of CMT, compounded by the fact that it is not well know by the general public (unlike MS or MD) makes it ridiculous to try to explain to most who inquire. I broke my foot a year ago, so most of my community and co-workers saw an obvious injury and treatment for that expended period of recovery. Since then I have had a more pronounced ataxia that most associate with that known and obvious injury. Of course there are many inquiries of varied levels of genuine interest, but I find that there are very few that I can even begin to explain the complex reason for my awkward gait. And when I do take the time to explain that I have CMT, what it is and where it is taking me, I frequently find that it is so much more than the questioner was expecting that very few people really comprehend what I am telling them. Again, my father is the only person that I really share issues and emotions with, because he is really the only one that gets what I am talking about. For that I am very grateful. Ironic that the source of my ailment is my greatest medicine. Of course I say medicine metaphorically since there is no pill to make me whole. What my point is here, I am not sure. I am frustrated by this ailment every waking hour of every day. My hobbies, my work, my family life - all have been affected by CMT. I am trying to find a new perspective that allows me to appreciate what I have and not obsess over what I have lost. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had ALS, I would beg to return to the CMT that I otherwise despise. I am not dead; I will not lie down and I will not go quietly. A recent exploration into the world of Buddhist philosophy has begun to help me to let go of some of my frustration and depression. The four noble truths of Buddhism: The Four Noble Truths 1. Life means suffering, 2. The origin of suffering is attachment, 3. The cessation of suffering is attainable, 4. The path to the cessation of suffering. My ability to comprehend and apply these truths is limited and situational, but it is my hope that further application, study and meditation will allow me to cease my attachments and thus my suffering, and live in every moment as a blessed one. If any of this rant rings true to you I would encourage your exploration of these truths. Likewise, if you have found a way to live blissfully beyond your limitations I am an interested audience. I could blather on but my hands are tired and the Brewers are coming on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Hi , You've expressed your feelings and your emotional journey very well. Thank you for sharing. I can relate to much of what you are saying. Like you, my diagnosis came late.  Many of my current problems and early degeneration may have been avoided if my CMT would have been diagnosed and treated appropriately from childhood. Recently, my hairdresser was asking me to explain how I was diagnosed. When I did, she said, 'Wow, that must be very frustrating!' My response was, 'No, not really. It is, what it is.' It sounds cliche, but it's how I feel. I am completely at peac with it. Like you, I was upset about it initially and very frustrated, but after working through the grieving process, I choose not to allow myself to remain in a constant state of frustration over these things that I cannot change for two important reasons. First, being frustrated drains me of the little energy reserves I have and easily puts me in bed, so it's clearly not good for my health. In addition, I find it's a selfish mindset that blocks my ability to focus on other people, bringing joy to their lives, and finding ways to keep my own life meaningful and relevant. We are all very different though, in how we cope. Our genetic makeup, childhood upbringing, and role models can all make a huge difference in our ability to find successful coping strategies in adulthood.  I'm so glad you found something that works for you. Being frustrated every day is harmful to all humans, but even more so when someone has an underlying disease, like we do. I'm glad you found a way to find peace in your life. It's a huge step, one to be celebrated. Congrats! And, I hope it opens up new opportunities for joy in your life.  ________________________________ From: <rgmachot@...> Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 7:17:01 PM Subject: Live in the Moment  A year and a half ago a multitude of confounding medical and physical issues that had plagued me for half of my life were given a name, a diagnosis, a condition, defined as a disease process. As relieved as I was to know that there was indeed something going on in my body that was part of an organized assault on my nervous system, little did I realize that a year and a half later I am not much closer to accepting the facts as they are. I had unknowingly watched the degenerative processes of CMT subdue my grandmother, uncle and father. As common as this neuropathy apparently is, particularly in the southern Wisconsin area, no practioner(s) involved in the care of any of us suggested or pondered aloud a hereditary neuropathic process as the condition that was affecting us. As a part of I get daily postings that I find variably interesting relative to their applicability to my condition and situation. Ultimately, it would seem that for as many of us as there are, we all have varying degrees of issues, impact, limitations, and social/familial/ medical/rehab support systems in place. I read pieces of my story in many of the posts here. I feel your pain and suffer your same physical and emotional hurdles. But other than my father, whose path I feel I am following similarly 40 years behind him, it would seem that for such a prevalent disease, we are all at least mildly different in our presentation. Obviously, there are numerous strains of the disease. Also, I would suggest that physiologically and anatomically we all have a similar basic process that is bringing us down, but the way each of us lives seems to bring on different associated issues that make us present with different issues. Levels of activity and injury related to balance and tissue weaknesses create varied presentation and ability to cope physically. CMT does not, to my knowledge, affect the tissues/nerves of the shoulder, but my father has debilitating shoulder issues that I think are caused by a) the over-use of this joint as the shoulders work harder to make up for deficiencies in the extremities, and the jarring impact of numerous falls due to balance and weakness issues. I am sure there are many similar examples of anatomical troubles that are secondary to the primary disease that is CMT. The complexity and variability of CMT, compounded by the fact that it is not well know by the general public (unlike MS or MD) makes it ridiculous to try to explain to most who inquire. I broke my foot a year ago, so most of my community and co-workers saw an obvious injury and treatment for that expended period of recovery. Since then I have had a more pronounced ataxia that most associate with that known and obvious injury. Of course there are many inquiries of varied levels of genuine interest, but I find that there are very few that I can even begin to explain the complex reason for my awkward gait. And when I do take the time to explain that I have CMT, what it is and where it is taking me, I frequently find that it is so much more than the questioner was expecting that very few people really comprehend what I am telling them. Again, my father is the only person that I really share issues and emotions with, because he is really the only one that gets what I am talking about. For that I am very grateful. Ironic that the source of my ailment is my greatest medicine. Of course I say medicine metaphorically since there is no pill to make me whole. What my point is here, I am not sure. I am frustrated by this ailment every waking hour of every day. My hobbies, my work, my family life - all have been affected by CMT. I am trying to find a new perspective that allows me to appreciate what I have and not obsess over what I have lost. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had ALS, I would beg to return to the CMT that I otherwise despise. I am not dead; I will not lie down and I will not go quietly. A recent exploration into the world of Buddhist philosophy has begun to help me to let go of some of my frustration and depression. The four noble truths of Buddhism: The Four Noble Truths 1. Life means suffering, 2. The origin of suffering is attachment, 3. The cessation of suffering is attainable, 4. The path to the cessation of suffering. My ability to comprehend and apply these truths is limited and situational, but it is my hope that further application, study and meditation will allow me to cease my attachments and thus my suffering, and live in every moment as a blessed one. If any of this rant rings true to you I would encourage your exploration of these truths. Likewise, if you have found a way to live blissfully beyond your limitations I am an interested audience. I could blather on but my hands are tired and the Brewers are coming on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 3 principles I live by each day: acceptance, gratitude, and service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Couldn't have said it better, . Expresses my feelings exactly. And to Wheels........I too have gone back to remembering my dad's actions and walking when he was older.....I too didn't get diagnosed till I was in my late 60s, about the age he was, but they didn't diagnose CMT for him, said it was lack of B12 and pernicious anemia, both of which I have been tested and I do not have either of those. But have the very exact gait my Dad had, also the loss of feeling in feet and legs, balance problems, hammertoes, high arches. I had symptoms since early childhood but everyone just called me " clumsy " as I would fall....had perpetual scabs on my knees as a kid and gym class was hell.......no one ever saw my problems as something wrong, tho. I was either too dumb to learn to climb the rope or do cartwheels. My dad talked about his dad and his grandfather not being able to walk when they were in their 70s but in the early 1900s seems Dr. visits were few and far between....them both having been coal miners they expected physical problems in later life, if they lived that long. Anyway, I have accepted it, but I sure do miss the long walks I used to take with my dog tho. On the advice of my neurologist I am taking Alpha Lipoic Acid to help with the balance and I do believe it works as the falls are few and far between now....and I use a cane or a rollerator whenever I leave the house. Life goes on. June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Thank you , I feel very much like you do. What I see, with myself, regarding acceptance of my limitations, is they change and I have to accept them again. It's been a problem since I got diagnosed. I felt relief as well when I got diagnosed. I thought I was so messed up, not getting any answers, had a competely useless nerve biopsy, which with it came my first significant visible leg atrophy. Plus, I have tendency to be a bit of a thrill seeker, my body just won't particpate. I am a stong believer in meditation. And it's not that easy to do. I apply prayer (asking for guidance) and meditation (listening for the answer). It took me 5 years to figure out how to do efffectively...It wasn't easy to shut off my brain..and I found a great, but yet very harmful place to do it, the tanning bed. I am always freezing in the winter and it was the only thing that seemed to be able to warm me up, and there is alot of white noise from the fans. I am sure I can find another place. I am so glad you brought that up, I have not been doing it, realize while wrinting this, its what I am lacking right now..thanks Joann > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi, , Im a Brewer fan also. I also live in southern Wisconsin , West Allis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I so agree with you Bonnie... Blessings to ya!....... Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 , if it's any consolation, you are certainly not on this path alone. Your story is very familiar. I spent half my life trying to figure out a single explanation for all my " oddities " . Ironically, confounded by family members with the same oddities, telling me to stop worrying about it, it was normal -- these things happen to them all the time. As I progressed in my medical education, though, it was clear that these things are not normal. When I was diagnosed finally, it was bitter-sweet. FINALLY an explanation, vindication, I'm not just clumsy and whimpy, there's really something different about how my body works and it's NOT life threatening. But then there's the depressing side. No cure, no real treatment, gradual worsening.... ugh. I spent about a year in a bit of a funk about it. Feeling sorry. It took at least that long to get affected family members to take it seriously and not just blow it off. I finally reached a point where there are a few things I know for sure: - I'm in a much better situation than many with CMT, so far no cane, braces, wheelchair - I can look at my dad who is tough as nails and should be more debilitated but is too stubborn to be (at 70) and draw inspiration to be as tough - I'm no worse off than I was the day before I was diagnosed - I'm still the same off-balance, accident prone person that I ever was - This is just the way God made me and at least I have an amazing pain threshold (since I can't feel a lot of things!) For the most part, I think I've come to terms with it and when weird things happen, like my entire arm going numb yesterday because I was leaning on it funny, there is a non-scary explanation and I can move on without worrying too much. Holli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Amen!!!!! in Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I completely agree!!!! Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Well said . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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