Re: I have a question about oil!!

[Guest guest]

I have also made pumpkin seed oil in my press, but I didn't care for it so much,

but that is likely because I didn't cure out my seeds well enough (I grow my own

pumpkins) I intend to try again in the fall.

>

> I tend to use EVOO, sesame oil and pumpkin seed oil. I haven't taken the

> plunge into coconut oil yet. I can't do peanut oil because of allergies

> (although some ppl can use it, I break out and have an asthma attack). I

> became vegetarian a little over 3 months ago and the nuances in taste in

> the oils are very noticeable to me now.

> Holly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn, get a book called " Deep Nutrition ­ why our Genes need traditional

foods " by Dr. Shanahan (an FP doc, and a genetics researcher) -

http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Nutrition-Your-Genes-Traditional/dp/0615228380/re

f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1332789108 & sr=8-1

You can check it out at the library, probably.

It will give you a whole new understanding of fats and the part they play in

our diets. Most (if not all) polyunsaturated fats change to trans fats when

heated. I, personally, would never use Canola oil (it's a GMO), and I use

mostly saturated fats or olive oil (monosaturated oils). Why? The book will

explain it much better than I do. Also, coconut oil has been helpful in the

treatment of alzheimers ­

Now, food beliefs are right up there with religion and politics in terms of

divisiveness on forums. I don't press my " learnings " on anyone ­ and I have

watched some really great people leave the forum because of " food police "

behaviors. You guys get to do whatever you want ­ I'm only talking about

me.

Pam

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT)

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

>

>

>

> I always go for extra virgin olive oil though that is probably a waste as

> regular olive oil would probably do well for sauteeing. The extra virgin is

> more expensive and should be used on salad dressings where it is eaten in a

> more pure state. I just can't see having several kinds of olive oil on hand.

> I do have grape seed oil and canola oil on hand. I don't use the coconut

> because it is saturated. It may be one of those things where first this is

> not healthy and then it is or vice versa. I just don't go for saturated or

> trans fats.

>

> Many cooks use peanut oil for deep frying, which I don't really do anymore.

> So I don't have that. For frying, it is the heat that affects the oils and

> some won't hold up and can be worse for you, like using olive oil to fry above

> a certain temperature.

>

> I realize that many on here use the coconut oil but I don't understand at this

> point since it has saturated fats. Even my margarine is made from oil and has

> fatty fish oils in it. But it is certainly processed and who knows what else

> it has in it.

>

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

> From: Melody <eliz7212@... <mailto:eliz7212%40verizon.net> >

> To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:04 AM

> Subject: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

> HI all.

>

> I have read that the best oil for frying (regardless what the norm is) is

> extra virgin coconut oil. It's a saturated fat but it's healthy. That's what I

> read.

>

> There is also the red oil (Palm Fruit Oil). NOT Palm Kernel oil. Which I was

> once given. It's supposed to be the healthiest oil on the planet.

>

> So here is my question. If one has the money of Trump, and one likes to

> cook, what is the absolutely best oil that money could buy (for sauteeing,

> etc.)

>

> Anyone know the definite answer?

>

> Thanks, Melody

>

>

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > I'm so sorry. I would love for you to be here and I would come sit

on the

>>>>> > >> > front row.

>>>>> > >> > Beverly

>>>>> > >> > Texas

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > EW!! How did your presentation go?

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Did you sway anyone to start sprouting???

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Melody

>>>>> > >> >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

It is good to know as much as possible about foods.  And even the

" authorites  " keep changing their minds.

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:18 PM

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

 

Carolyn, get a book called " Deep Nutrition ­ why our Genes need traditional

foods " by Dr. Shanahan (an FP doc, and a genetics researcher) -

http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Nutrition-Your-Genes-Traditional/dp/0615228380/re

f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1332789108 & sr=8-1

You can check it out at the library, probably.

It will give you a whole new understanding of fats and the part they play in

our diets. Most (if not all) polyunsaturated fats change to trans fats when

heated. I, personally, would never use Canola oil (it's a GMO), and I use

mostly saturated fats or olive oil (monosaturated oils). Why? The book will

explain it much better than I do. Also, coconut oil has been helpful in the

treatment of alzheimers ­

Now, food beliefs are right up there with religion and politics in terms of

divisiveness on forums. I don't press my " learnings " on anyone ­ and I have

watched some really great people leave the forum because of " food police "

behaviors. You guys get to do whatever you want ­ I'm only talking about

me.

Pam

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT)

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

>

>

>

> I always go for extra virgin olive oil though that is probably a waste as

> regular olive oil would probably do well for sauteeing. The extra virgin is

> more expensive and should be used on salad dressings where it is eaten in a

> more pure state. I just can't see having several kinds of olive oil on hand.

> I do have grape seed oil and canola oil on hand. I don't use the coconut

> because it is saturated. It may be one of those things where first this is

> not healthy and then it is or vice versa. I just don't go for saturated or

> trans fats.

>

> Many cooks use peanut oil for deep frying, which I don't really do anymore.

> So I don't have that. For frying, it is the heat that affects the oils and

> some won't hold up and can be worse for you, like using olive oil to fry above

> a certain temperature.

>

> I realize that many on here use the coconut oil but I don't understand at this

> point since it has saturated fats. Even my margarine is made from oil and has

> fatty fish oils in it. But it is certainly processed and who knows what else

> it has in it.

>

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

> From: Melody <eliz7212@... <mailto:eliz7212%40verizon.net> >

> To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:04 AM

> Subject: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

> HI all.

>

> I have read that the best oil for frying (regardless what the norm is) is

> extra virgin coconut oil. It's a saturated fat but it's healthy. That's what I

> read.

>

> There is also the red oil (Palm Fruit Oil). NOT Palm Kernel oil. Which I was

> once given. It's supposed to be the healthiest oil on the planet.

>

> So here is my question. If one has the money of Trump, and one likes to

> cook, what is the absolutely best oil that money could buy (for sauteeing,

> etc.)

>

> Anyone know the definite answer?

>

> Thanks, Melody

>

>

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > I'm so sorry. I would love for you to be here and I would come sit

on the

>>>>> > >> > front row.

>>>>> > >> > Beverly

>>>>> > >> > Texas

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > EW!! How did your presentation go?

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Did you sway anyone to start sprouting???

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > Melody

>>>>> > >> >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Particularly since the " data " on benefits comes mostly from the food

industry itself. And they definitely have a vested interest.

P

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:32:13 -0700 (PDT)

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

>

>

>

> It is good to know as much as possible about foods. And even the " authorites

> " keep changing their minds.

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

> From: Pam Gotcher <pam@... <mailto:pam%40gotcher.us> >

> To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:18 PM

> Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

> Carolyn, get a book called " Deep Nutrition ­ why our Genes need traditional

> foods " by Dr. Shanahan (an FP doc, and a genetics researcher) -

> http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Nutrition-Your-Genes-Traditional/dp/0615228380/re

> f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1332789108 & sr=8-1

> You can check it out at the library, probably.

>

> It will give you a whole new understanding of fats and the part they play in

> our diets. Most (if not all) polyunsaturated fats change to trans fats when

> heated. I, personally, would never use Canola oil (it's a GMO), and I use

> mostly saturated fats or olive oil (monosaturated oils). Why? The book will

> explain it much better than I do. Also, coconut oil has been helpful in the

> treatment of alzheimers ­

>

> Now, food beliefs are right up there with religion and politics in terms of

> divisiveness on forums. I don't press my " learnings " on anyone ­ and I have

> watched some really great people leave the forum because of " food police "

> behaviors. You guys get to do whatever you want ­ I'm only talking about

> me.

>

> Pam

>

> From: Carolyn Wilkerson <carolyn.wilkerson@...

> <mailto:carolyn.wilkerson%40yahoo.com> >

> Reply-To: <sproutpeople

> <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> >

> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT)

> To: " sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> "

> <sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> >

> Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > I always go for extra virgin olive oil though that is probably a waste as

>> > regular olive oil would probably do well for sauteeing. The extra virgin is

>> > more expensive and should be used on salad dressings where it is eaten in a

>> > more pure state. I just can't see having several kinds of olive oil on

>> hand.

>> > I do have grape seed oil and canola oil on hand. I don't use the coconut

>> > because it is saturated. It may be one of those things where first this is

>> > not healthy and then it is or vice versa. I just don't go for saturated or

>> > trans fats.

>> >

>> > Many cooks use peanut oil for deep frying, which I don't really do anymore.

>> > So I don't have that. For frying, it is the heat that affects the oils and

>> > some won't hold up and can be worse for you, like using olive oil to fry

>> above

>> > a certain temperature.

>> >

>> > I realize that many on here use the coconut oil but I don't understand at

>> this

>> > point since it has saturated fats. Even my margarine is made from oil and

>> has

>> > fatty fish oils in it. But it is certainly processed and who knows what

>> else

>> > it has in it.

>> >

>> >

>> > Carolyn Wilkerson

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > From: Melody <eliz7212@... <mailto:eliz7212%40verizon.net>

>> <mailto:eliz7212%40verizon.net> >

>> > To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

>> <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:04 AM

>> > Subject: I have a question about oil!!

>> >

>> >

>> > HI all.

>> >

>> > I have read that the best oil for frying (regardless what the norm is) is

>> > extra virgin coconut oil. It's a saturated fat but it's healthy. That's

>> what I

>> > read.

>> >

>> > There is also the red oil (Palm Fruit Oil). NOT Palm Kernel oil. Which I >>

was

>> > once given. It's supposed to be the healthiest oil on the planet.

>> >

>> > So here is my question. If one has the money of Trump, and one likes

>> to

>> > cook, what is the absolutely best oil that money could buy (for sauteeing,

>> > etc.)

>> >

>> > Anyone know the definite answer?

>> >

>> > Thanks, Melody

>> >

>> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > I'm so sorry. I would love for you to be here and I

>>>>>>>>>> would come sit

> on the

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > front row.

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Beverly

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Texas

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > EW!! How did your

>>>>>>>>>> presentation go?

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Did you sway anyone to start sprouting???

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> > Melody

>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> >

[Guest guest]

I am probably safe in assuming the " food police' comment refers to me, since I

am usually the one to throw a wet blanket on all things food related, preaching

the importance of organics and avoiding chemicals, but that is okay. OH, how I

WISH I had had someone to help me learn about such things when I first started

trying to improve my eating habits! I would have given anything to have READ

the knowledge in a group that I have largely learned from ending up in the ER

with allergic responses. I apologize if I come off as food police-I try to

respect others choices in foods, but I WILL continue to share the knowledge I

have earned over the years, since I assume people come to groups like this in an

effort to improve their health to begin with. I was (and still am) shocked at

what is allowed in our food supply, so if I can help share information that

would have be soooo helpful to me, so I will continue to share what I have

learned, and hope it doesn't offend anyone. I only WISH our food was safer, and

there was no need to disperse such tidbits.

>

> Particularly since the " data " on benefits comes mostly from the food

> industry itself. And they definitely have a vested interest.

> P

>

>

> Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:32:13 -0700 (PDT)

> To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

> Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It is good to know as much as possible about foods. And even the

" authorites

> > " keep changing their minds.

> >

> > Carolyn Wilkerson

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I use only grape seed oil and coconut oil for saute. They do not go rancid at

high temperature. Leave your expensive cold press extra virgin olive oil for

salads.

You can google benefits of coconut oil to have an understanding why coconut oil

is good. There are people switching to coconnut oil for alzheimer disease and

hypothyroidism.

> > >> >

> > >> > I'm so sorry. I would love for you to be here and I would come sit on

the

> > >> > front row.

> > >> > Beverly

> > >> > Texas

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > EW!! How did your presentation go?

> > >> >

> > >> > Did you sway anyone to start sprouting???

> > >> >

> > >> > Melody

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well, I, for one, am eager to learn to avoid the 'bad stuff' and embrace the

'good stuff' in our food supply, LOL! So, food police or not, bring it on.

I want information that I can use to improve my health and my life! And

also, to share with others.

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 8:19 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

I am probably safe in assuming the " food police' comment refers to me, since

I am usually the one to throw a wet blanket on all things food related,

preaching the importance of organics and avoiding chemicals, but that is

okay. OH, how I WISH I had had someone to help me learn about such things

when I first started trying to improve my eating habits! I would have given

anything to have READ the knowledge in a group that I have largely learned

from ending up in the ER with allergic responses. I apologize if I come off

as food police-I try to respect others choices in foods, but I WILL continue

to share the knowledge I have earned over the years, since I assume people

come to groups like this in an effort to improve their health to begin with.

I was (and still am) shocked at what is allowed in our food supply, so if I

can help share information that would have be soooo helpful to me, so I will

continue to share what I have learned, and hope it doesn't offend anyone. I

only WISH our food was safer, and there was no need to disperse such

tidbits.

_,___

[Guest guest]

Actually, I don't think you were around, , when these series of

incidents occurred. You always speak to what is necessary for you, given

your health issues. Your health issues, of course, are not generic to

everyone, but I've never expereinced you as a " food police " -

Pam

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:18:51 -0000

To: <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I am probably safe in assuming the " food police' comment refers to me, since I

> am usually the one to throw a wet blanket on all things food related,

> preaching the importance of organics and avoiding chemicals, but that is okay.

> OH, how I WISH I had had someone to help me learn about such things when I

> first started trying to improve my eating habits! I would have given anything

> to have READ the knowledge in a group that I have largely learned from ending

> up in the ER with allergic responses. I apologize if I come off as food

> police-I try to respect others choices in foods, but I WILL continue to share

> the knowledge I have earned over the years, since I assume people come to

> groups like this in an effort to improve their health to begin with. I was

> (and still am) shocked at what is allowed in our food supply, so if I can help

> share information that would have be soooo helpful to me, so I will continue

> to share what I have learned, and hope it doesn't offend anyone. I only WISH

> our food was safer, and there was no need to disperse such tidbits.

>

>

>

>

>> >

>> > Particularly since the " data " on benefits comes mostly from the food

>> > industry itself. And they definitely have a vested interest.

>> > P

>> >

>> >

>> > Reply-To: <sproutpeople

>> <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> >

>> > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:32:13 -0700 (PDT)

>> > To: " sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

>> " <sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> >

>> > Subject: Re: I have a question about oil!!

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > It is good to know as much as possible about foods. And even the

>>> " authorites

>>> > > " keep changing their minds.

>>> > >

>>> > > Carolyn Wilkerson

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>

>

>

>

>