Re: Perseveration help..... (a & Cindy)

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>>> i know someone else on the list will help come up with something

that may help. shawna

> Wishing all a very Merry Chirstmas!

> �http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

a, will I am definitely no help here, based on what has helped

with understanding on some of the reasons on why does this,

which was a biggie understanding why he did this.

This is great that you have found some solutions with .

Eh, you always have to really have a bag of tricks indeed.

You just never know what kind of day, one will end up challenging.

When was undergoing ABA/VB therapy this helped him tremendously

able to work around his stimming, preservation, etc.

Since Soma has been working with and learning the RPM (Rapid

Prompt Method)approach, this is one of the third open learning channel

which is the tactile sense. It is a secondary learning channel.

However, if it used constructively, it can contribute to the learning

process.

Hopefully do not want to throw anyone off/overwhelm with what I have

to share, trying to make some sense here with possibilities of the

preservation.

Just sharing a wee bit, learning can be encouraged through tactile

assistance. This plays an important role in the study habits of

individuals.

The tactile learning channel is a subordinate channel that supports

the primary visual and/or auditory learning channels.

Unable to really describe this tremendous method of understanding when

it involves the function of the brain.

All I know I was shocked to observe Soma able to work with

while he attended to some of his rituals and able to respond to

answering to some questions in regards to Science, history, math, etc.

Guess who was tearing paper while asking them? Soma.

The main aspects of the tactile learning channel are:

Texture

Pressure

Temperature

Intensity differences of the above

Pain

Classification of pain

Then there is tactile defensiveness which currently has always

been defensive in some areas but it has lessened some since undergoing

some of his medical treatments depending on certain days.

Then there is the kinesthetic which is the fourth learning channel.

Like the tactile sense, the kinesthetic channel is also a subordinate

or secondary learning channel, and has the following aspects:

Speed

Acceleration

Observing a moving object, and its close proximity

Being included in the movement

Projectile

Rotation

, I could see some of this with tearing the pages of the books

given. In such case, two channels are taking part in the encoding of

the aspects of the environment that he finds most captivating, which

is both visual and kinesthetic.

This kind of persistent movement is a reaction to a sensory need, a

need to be responded to in some way or else the work cannot be done.

The individual has the freedom to move, or is provided with a

compensating kinesthetic opportunity.

I know I am speaking about the RPM Approach but it is wonderful to

understand the sensory need one seeks. A little from some of my notes.

In regards to the RPM, this is because RPM is geared toward the

acknowledgment of a student's particular sensory needs and showing

understanding and sympathy for their remedies, rather than judging

these as inappropriate behaviors to be extinguished.

Who are we to judge? The basic goal in RPM is learning. A lesson can

be absorbed, if it is planned around the movements. If properly

individualized, every session becomes a success. Through successive

sessions, as the person becomes desensitized to the environment

stress, he or she will begin to work in one place during the session,

instead of persevering.

Question with the trial of laminating the book, did you use some type

of an artist or thick cardboard pages or plastic page book, which

could be difficult to tear?

Ok, found it, let's if this helps in the mean time. It is a book call

Parent Survival Manual, A Guide to Crisis Resolution in Autism and

Related Developmental Disorders

Edited by Schopler.

One could review it, online as I just googled it.

Pages 108 & 109

Under Preventing Destruction of Books.

Let's see if this works, if not could try to cut and paste URL or type

in Preventing Destruction of Books.

http://books.google.com/books?id=oFzIbLgZ48cC & pg=PA108 & lpg=PA108 & dq=tearing+page\

s+from+a+book,+autism & source=web & ots=pg8FVepD8a & sig=P5B3Uvg5JM3G_lX8KMRH9YXzn1w & \

hl=en & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=10 & ct=result

Parent Survival Manual: A Guide to Crisis Resolution in Autism and ...

- Google Books Result

by Schopler - 1995 - Psychology - 224 pages

Instead, he would tear them if I let him. To solve the problem, we

made him a special book with pages made of artist's boards, which

can't be torn. ...

books.google.com/books?isbn=0306449773...

Irma,20,DS/ASD

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thank you irma! nathan is growing up into a very nice young man, pretty calm

most of the time anymore. I agree trying to figure out what the casues are and

then brainstorming and using tactics or interventions plus a full sensory way to

teach appropriately is a great way to go. didnt start doing much in

school other than drop and flop among other behaviors, until about 2nd grade

when we had the OT so sensory eval and we incooperate sensory intergration with

all his learning. This tactile learning your discussing is that little  like

writing in jellow powder or sand? as it uses more of the 5 senses so learn more

readily. You are always such a good wealth of information. shawna

 

Wishing all a very Merry Chirstmas!

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

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This tactile learning your discussing is that little �like writing in

jellow powder or sand?�as it uses more of the�5 senses so learn more

readily.

use to have some sensory & motor activities similar to what you

are describing above with the OT who specializes with sensory

integration and was pretty therapeutic where I was able to apply this

at home and made tremendous gain.

Soma is Tito's mom, if you remember hearing about him.

www.halo-soma.org

Here is a media clip.

http://www.statesman.com/news/mplayer/other/58213

I know this may be overwhelming on what I post, which I could share a

video-clip of Soma working .

This is the Rapid Prompting Method (RPM)this is a method to empower

the learner with the best possible means to express thoughts,

understanding, reasoning and learning by recognizing the student's

dominant learning channel at that instant of learning.

I'll share an overview.

Channels of Learning

Learning occurs through the sense organs. The two primary

senses/channels of learning are vision and hearing. Tactile,

kinesthetic and olfactory channels are the secondary group of

channels, which are supplemental sources of learning. The four basic

channels of learning are distributed in the two brain hemispheres:

Left brain- analytic and details; Right brain-synthesis and " big

picture " .

Self-stimulatory actions (stims)- the window to the 'open learning

channel'

Self-stimulatory actions (stims) are the window to the student's 'open

learning channels'. RPM sessions must by sympathic to the

self-stimulatory actions because they are the clues to which sense is

stronger than the others depending upon what type of self-stimulation

the person is doing. RPM should allow the 'calming stim' (which does

not interfere with learning), but overpower the 'excitatory stim'

(which disrupts the student's ability to learn).

How to identify 'open learning channels' of students?

Identify open channels by observing the reactions of the autistic

person to the different aspects of the environment. Is he moving too

much? Is he holding onto something or someone? Where is his visual

focus? Is he trying to create some organization in the environment by

arranging books? These are all clues to which learning channels are

open in that particular student.

Ok the list goes on but one of the message mentioned is this from Soma.

Lesson planning is critical

In a RPM session, the success of the lesson is not the responsibility

of the learner. It is actually the responsibility if the teacher. It

is not judged on how many correct answers the learner picked or how

many mistakes they made. If the lesson is individualized in the right

way-based on the learner's open learning channels-then he or she is

bound to learn. If it is not taught in the right way, they will not

learn. Again, the responsibility is that of the teacher.

Sorry do not tend to bombard you with some other technique.

There is a wonderful book call Strange Son

Two Mothers, Two Sons and the Quest to Unlock the Hidden World of Autism

by Portia Iversen, she speaks of Soma and Tito.

Irma,20,DS/ASD

[Guest guest]

Irma,

your so smart and have made sooooooo many gains with steven... you should feel

very good about yourself as a fighter, advocate and mom........ cyber hugs and

high fives.......

Subject: Re: Perseveration help..... (a & )

To:

Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:42 PM

This tactile learning your discussing is that little �like writing in

jellow powder or sand?�as it uses more of the�5 senses so learn more

readily.

use to have some sensory & motor activities similar to what you

are describing above with the OT who specializes with sensory

integration and was pretty therapeutic where I was able to apply this

at home and made tremendous gain.

Soma is Tito's mom, if you remember hearing about him.

www.halo-soma. org

Here is a media clip.

http://www.statesma n.com/news/ mplayer/other/ 58213

I know this may be overwhelming on what I post, which I could share a

video-clip of Soma working .

This is the Rapid Prompting Method (RPM)this is a method to empower

the learner with the best possible means to express thoughts,

understanding, reasoning and learning by recognizing the student's

dominant learning channel at that instant of learning.

I'll share an overview.

Channels of Learning

Learning occurs through the sense organs. The two primary

senses/channels of learning are vision and hearing. Tactile,

kinesthetic and olfactory channels are the secondary group of

channels, which are supplemental sources of learning. The four basic

channels of learning are distributed in the two brain hemispheres:

Left brain- analytic and details; Right brain-synthesis and " big

picture " .

Self-stimulatory actions (stims)- the window to the 'open learning

channel'

Self-stimulatory actions (stims) are the window to the student's 'open

learning channels'. RPM sessions must by sympathic to the

self-stimulatory actions because they are the clues to which sense is

stronger than the others depending upon what type of self-stimulation

the person is doing. RPM should allow the 'calming stim' (which does

not interfere with learning), but overpower the 'excitatory stim'

(which disrupts the student's ability to learn).

How to identify 'open learning channels' of students?

Identify open channels by observing the reactions of the autistic

person to the different aspects of the environment. Is he moving too

much? Is he holding onto something or someone? Where is his visual

focus? Is he trying to create some organization in the environment by

arranging books? These are all clues to which learning channels are

open in that particular student.

Ok the list goes on but one of the message mentioned is this from Soma.

Lesson planning is critical

In a RPM session, the success of the lesson is not the responsibility

of the learner. It is actually the responsibility if the teacher. It

is not judged on how many correct answers the learner picked or how

many mistakes they made. If the lesson is individualized in the right

way-based on the learner's open learning channels-then he or she is

bound to learn. If it is not taught in the right way, they will not

learn. Again, the responsibility is that of the teacher.

Sorry do not tend to bombard you with some other technique.

There is a wonderful book call Strange Son

Two Mothers, Two Sons and the Quest to Unlock the Hidden World of Autism

by Portia Iversen, she speaks of Soma and Tito.

Irma,20, DS/ASD

[Guest guest]

>

> Irma,

> your so smart and have made sooooooo many gains with steven... you

should feel very good about yourself as a fighter, advocate and

mom........ cyber hugs and high fives.......

Thanks Leah, but do not see myself smart, just repeating with everyone

who is on this mission when told differently and seek that action

where needed with trials and errors.

It is you who I admire very much with so much you have gone through

that you have accomplish.

We are warriors and will find solutions where needed.

Just read your other post on Ashton, hope you do find something to

ease her pain. Always something.

Hugs!

Irma,20,DS/ASD